Tobi187
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OLI EPP - WET WEATHER WARNING, by Tobi187 on Sept 8, 2024 20:47:00 GMT 1, 
Pigment print with high gloss varnish on Somerset enhanced White Satin 410gsm with torn edge
59 x 52,9 cm / 23.22 x 20.82 inch
Limited edition of 45 + 5 AP + 5 SP, signed and numbered by the artist
Please note that purchases are limited to one copy per customer/household.
Price including taxes. VAT may be withdrawn according to your location.
storeparis.perrotin.com/products/oli-epp-wet-weather-warning
Pigment print with high gloss varnish on Somerset enhanced White Satin 410gsm with torn edge 59 x 52,9 cm / 23.22 x 20.82 inch Limited edition of 45 + 5 AP + 5 SP, signed and numbered by the artist Please note that purchases are limited to one copy per customer/household. Price including taxes. VAT may be withdrawn according to your location. storeparis.perrotin.com/products/oli-epp-wet-weather-warning |
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OLI EPP - WET WEATHER WARNING, by Art for Love 1 on Sept 8, 2024 20:50:47 GMT 1, too expensive
too expensive
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OLI EPP - WET WEATHER WARNING, by from mjolnir on Sept 8, 2024 22:14:49 GMT 1, Was this tiered pricing? I was only 600gbp or so when I first looked at it
Was this tiered pricing? I was only 600gbp or so when I first looked at it
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eskay
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OLI EPP - WET WEATHER WARNING, by eskay on Sept 9, 2024 3:33:10 GMT 1,
I think itโs pretty fair. Similar price and edition size to his last release from Perrotin. This oneโs a bit bigger in size though.
Saw a video on the galleryโs IG and the quality looks amazing.
I grabbed one as itโs a strong image.
I think itโs pretty fair. Similar price and edition size to his last release from Perrotin. This oneโs a bit bigger in size though. Saw a video on the galleryโs IG and the quality looks amazing. I grabbed one as itโs a strong image. |
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Poster Bob
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OLI EPP - WET WEATHER WARNING, by Poster Bob on Sept 9, 2024 14:25:34 GMT 1, โRedโ was 765โฌ shipped to the UK in 2022. It sold out in an hour or two. Conversely, this is a larger print, in a larger edition, of a weaker image, in a MUCH worse market. His last three prints to have been auctioned at Phillips only achieved hammers of ยฃ1,000, so ยฃ900 to the seller. Things have gotten much worse in the year since theyโve been auctioned. You should only buy this based on loving the image and understanding that it may not sell out at source for a decade, meaning you canโt get your money back if you tire of it.
โRedโ was 765โฌ shipped to the UK in 2022. It sold out in an hour or two. Conversely, this is a larger print, in a larger edition, of a weaker image, in a MUCH worse market. His last three prints to have been auctioned at Phillips only achieved hammers of ยฃ1,000, so ยฃ900 to the seller. Things have gotten much worse in the year since theyโve been auctioned. You should only buy this based on loving the image and understanding that it may not sell out at source for a decade, meaning you canโt get your money back if you tire of it.
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Fuzzyduck121
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OLI EPP - WET WEATHER WARNING, by Fuzzyduck121 on Sept 9, 2024 14:51:57 GMT 1, โRedโ was 765โฌ shipped to the UK in 2022. It sold out in an hour or two. Conversely, this is a larger print, in a larger edition, of a weaker image, in a MUCH worse market. His last three prints to have been auctioned at Phillips only achieved hammers of ยฃ1,000, so ยฃ900 to the seller. Things have gotten much worse in the year since theyโve been auctioned. You should only buy this based on loving the image and understanding that it may not sell out at source for a decade, meaning you canโt get your money back if you tire of it.
Reposting this as the words are now relevant to 99% of new editions at source
The market of old is over, buy what you like
The end
โRedโ was 765โฌ shipped to the UK in 2022. It sold out in an hour or two. Conversely, this is a larger print, in a larger edition, of a weaker image, in a MUCH worse market. His last three prints to have been auctioned at Phillips only achieved hammers of ยฃ1,000, so ยฃ900 to the seller. Things have gotten much worse in the year since theyโve been auctioned. You should only buy this based on loving the image and understanding that it may not sell out at source for a decade, meaning you canโt get your money back if you tire of it. Reposting this as the words are now relevant to 99% of new editions at source The market of old is over, buy what you like The end |
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OLI EPP - WET WEATHER WARNING, by Happy Shopper on Sept 9, 2024 15:02:35 GMT 1, Was this tiered pricing? I was only 600gbp or so when I first looked at it
I thought when the emails first went out it was even less than that.
Quite like the image, but seemed too expensive at half the price! 
Was this tiered pricing? I was only 600gbp or so when I first looked at it I thought when the emails first went out it was even less than that. Quite like the image, but seemed too expensive at half the price! |
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Poster Bob
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OLI EPP - WET WEATHER WARNING, by Poster Bob on Sept 9, 2024 15:08:17 GMT 1, โRedโ was 765โฌ shipped to the UK in 2022. It sold out in an hour or two. Conversely, this is a larger print, in a larger edition, of a weaker image, in a MUCH worse market. His last three prints to have been auctioned at Phillips only achieved hammers of ยฃ1,000, so ยฃ900 to the seller. Things have gotten much worse in the year since theyโve been auctioned. You should only buy this based on loving the image and understanding that it may not sell out at source for a decade, meaning you canโt get your money back if you tire of it. Reposting this as the words are now relevant to 99% of new editions at source The market of old is over, buy what you like The end
I just think of it as 2008. The early 2020โs are only a bit over a decade away.
โRedโ was 765โฌ shipped to the UK in 2022. It sold out in an hour or two. Conversely, this is a larger print, in a larger edition, of a weaker image, in a MUCH worse market. His last three prints to have been auctioned at Phillips only achieved hammers of ยฃ1,000, so ยฃ900 to the seller. Things have gotten much worse in the year since theyโve been auctioned. You should only buy this based on loving the image and understanding that it may not sell out at source for a decade, meaning you canโt get your money back if you tire of it. Reposting this as the words are now relevant to 99% of new editions at source The market of old is over, buy what you like The end I just think of it as 2008. The early 2020โs are only a bit over a decade away. |
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Fuzzyduck121
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OLI EPP - WET WEATHER WARNING, by Fuzzyduck121 on Sept 9, 2024 15:16:32 GMT 1, peoples tastes change fast
in 2035 do you think 99% of the art we are discussing now (that will by then be 25-40 years old) will stand the test of time and bounce back
whats gone will stay gone
Invaders from 2000 bouncing back to 2020 prices in 2035? not a chance
peoples tastes change fast
in 2035 do you think 99% of the art we are discussing now (that will by then be 25-40 years old) will stand the test of time and bounce back
whats gone will stay gone
Invaders from 2000 bouncing back to 2020 prices in 2035? not a chance
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Pawel
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OLI EPP - WET WEATHER WARNING, by Pawel on Sept 9, 2024 15:43:01 GMT 1, peoples tastes change fast in 2035 do you think 99% of the art we are discussing now (that will by then be 25-40 years old) will stand the test of time and bounce back whats gone will stay gone Invaders from 2000 bouncing back to 2020 prices in 2035? not a chance
peoples tastes change fast in 2035 do you think 99% of the art we are discussing now (that will by then be 25-40 years old) will stand the test of time and bounce back whats gone will stay gone Invaders from 2000 bouncing back to 2020 prices in 2035? not a chance Invader at least will still manage to do decently imho which cannot be said about the 95% of the "emerging" artist that got popular in the last 5 years. |
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eskay
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OLI EPP - WET WEATHER WARNING, by eskay on Sept 9, 2024 17:11:56 GMT 1, โRedโ was 765โฌ shipped to the UK in 2022. It sold out in an hour or two. Conversely, this is a larger print, in a larger edition, of a weaker image, in a MUCH worse market. His last three prints to have been auctioned at Phillips only achieved hammers of ยฃ1,000, so ยฃ900 to the seller. Things have gotten much worse in the year since theyโve been auctioned. You should only buy this based on loving the image and understanding that it may not sell out at source for a decade, meaning you canโt get your money back if you tire of it.
90% of edition sold already. In case you were interestedโฆ. ๐คทโโ๏ธ
Hereโs to buying what you like, and not what you feel the market is dictating you should buy!
โRedโ was 765โฌ shipped to the UK in 2022. It sold out in an hour or two. Conversely, this is a larger print, in a larger edition, of a weaker image, in a MUCH worse market. His last three prints to have been auctioned at Phillips only achieved hammers of ยฃ1,000, so ยฃ900 to the seller. Things have gotten much worse in the year since theyโve been auctioned. You should only buy this based on loving the image and understanding that it may not sell out at source for a decade, meaning you canโt get your money back if you tire of it. Good job Iโm not buying to flip. 90% of edition sold already. In case you were interestedโฆ. ๐คทโโ๏ธ Hereโs to buying what you like, and not what you feel the market is dictating you should buy! |
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nobokov
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OLI EPP - WET WEATHER WARNING, by nobokov on Sept 9, 2024 19:31:24 GMT 1, Anyone still buying editions are likely just throwing their money away. But as long they're happy with their decision, that's okay I suppose?
Anyone still buying editions are likely just throwing their money away. But as long they're happy with their decision, that's okay I suppose?
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artlike
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OLI EPP - WET WEATHER WARNING, by artlike on Sept 9, 2024 20:11:41 GMT 1, Never understood why people were falling over themselves to buy his stuff. Really really couldn't get my head around it. I guess they're fun. Anyway, I'd hate to be an artist right now. Would have loved it 2 years ago though.
Never understood why people were falling over themselves to buy his stuff. Really really couldn't get my head around it. I guess they're fun. Anyway, I'd hate to be an artist right now. Would have loved it 2 years ago though.
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artlike
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OLI EPP - WET WEATHER WARNING, by artlike on Sept 9, 2024 20:12:27 GMT 1, Anyone still buying editions are likely just throwing their money away. But as long they're happy with their decision, that's okay I suppose?
Anyone still buying editions are likely just throwing their money away. But as long they're happy with their decision, that's okay I suppose? Same old, we're not all as rich as you. So editions is all most people can afford...if that |
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OLI EPP - WET WEATHER WARNING, by Peperami Monster on Sept 9, 2024 21:32:37 GMT 1, Never understood why people were falling over themselves to buy his stuff. Really really couldn't get my head around it. I guess they're fun. Anyway, I'd hate to be an artist right now. Would have loved it 2 years ago though.
is it really tough then at the mo ?
Whatโs happend and why ?
do you think itโs gonna change?
Never understood why people were falling over themselves to buy his stuff. Really really couldn't get my head around it. I guess they're fun. Anyway, I'd hate to be an artist right now. Would have loved it 2 years ago though. is it really tough then at the mo ? Whatโs happend and why ? do you think itโs gonna change? |
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LJCal
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OLI EPP - WET WEATHER WARNING, by LJCal on Sept 9, 2024 21:53:43 GMT 1, Never understood why people were falling over themselves to buy his stuff. Really really couldn't get my head around it. I guess they're fun. Anyway, I'd hate to be an artist right now. Would have loved it 2 years ago though. is it really tough then at the mo ? Whatโs happend and why ? do you think itโs gonna change?
Never understood why people were falling over themselves to buy his stuff. Really really couldn't get my head around it. I guess they're fun. Anyway, I'd hate to be an artist right now. Would have loved it 2 years ago though. is it really tough then at the mo ? Whatโs happend and why ? do you think itโs gonna change? It's pretty shit, far less money and liquidity in the market. Values down 30-70% since 2022 for a lot of blue chips, many emerging/mid career artists are unsaleable or down 80-95%. I am seeing some green shoots last couple of months, and for me things are picking up albeit from a very low point. That being said don't expect the mania of 2020-21 for a while yet and it's fragile so could easily find new depths to sink. A US recession is entirely possible and that would stamp out any recovery pretty quickly. |
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nobokov
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OLI EPP - WET WEATHER WARNING, by nobokov on Sept 9, 2024 22:05:53 GMT 1, Anyone still buying editions are likely just throwing their money away. But as long they're happy with their decision, that's okay I suppose? Same old, we're not all as rich as you. So editions is all most people can afford...if that
Anyone still buying editions are likely just throwing their money away. But as long they're happy with their decision, that's okay I suppose? Same old, we're not all as rich as you. So editions is all most people can afford...if that Rich? You can afford an original if you can afford these overpriced editions. |
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Poster Bob
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OLI EPP - WET WEATHER WARNING, by Poster Bob on Sept 9, 2024 22:52:23 GMT 1, โRedโ was 765โฌ shipped to the UK in 2022. It sold out in an hour or two. Conversely, this is a larger print, in a larger edition, of a weaker image, in a MUCH worse market. His last three prints to have been auctioned at Phillips only achieved hammers of ยฃ1,000, so ยฃ900 to the seller. Things have gotten much worse in the year since theyโve been auctioned. You should only buy this based on loving the image and understanding that it may not sell out at source for a decade, meaning you canโt get your money back if you tire of it. Good job Iโm not buying to flip. 90% of edition sold already. In case you were interestedโฆ. ๐คทโโ๏ธ Hereโs to buying what you like, and not what you feel the market is dictating you should buy!
While aesthetics are most commonly quoted as the main driver of purchasing art, ROI/investment/hedging are right behind it, and I think itโs worthwhile to note that someone is taking a loss by committing to a piece.
โRedโ was 765โฌ shipped to the UK in 2022. It sold out in an hour or two. Conversely, this is a larger print, in a larger edition, of a weaker image, in a MUCH worse market. His last three prints to have been auctioned at Phillips only achieved hammers of ยฃ1,000, so ยฃ900 to the seller. Things have gotten much worse in the year since theyโve been auctioned. You should only buy this based on loving the image and understanding that it may not sell out at source for a decade, meaning you canโt get your money back if you tire of it. Good job Iโm not buying to flip. 90% of edition sold already. In case you were interestedโฆ. ๐คทโโ๏ธ Hereโs to buying what you like, and not what you feel the market is dictating you should buy! While aesthetics are most commonly quoted as the main driver of purchasing art, ROI/investment/hedging are right behind it, and I think itโs worthwhile to note that someone is taking a loss by committing to a piece. |
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Poster Bob
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OLI EPP - WET WEATHER WARNING, by Poster Bob on Sept 9, 2024 22:59:24 GMT 1, Same old, we're not all as rich as you. So editions is all most people can afford...if that Rich? You can afford an original if you can afford these overpriced editions.
My main gripe in this market is the continued, wild asking prices for wet-behind-the-ear artists. It seems as if all galleries still insist on increasing the size of works and stamping a $25k price tag on pieces, when itโs their second show with decent representation. Then three months later theyโre still messaging you asking if youโre interested after you havenโt replied to their most recent follow-ups. There is not a single original work that I could own by any up-and-comer on my radar at the price point of this print. Would you show us say two originals you would buy instead of this?
Same old, we're not all as rich as you. So editions is all most people can afford...if that Rich? You can afford an original if you can afford these overpriced editions. My main gripe in this market is the continued, wild asking prices for wet-behind-the-ear artists. It seems as if all galleries still insist on increasing the size of works and stamping a $25k price tag on pieces, when itโs their second show with decent representation. Then three months later theyโre still messaging you asking if youโre interested after you havenโt replied to their most recent follow-ups. There is not a single original work that I could own by any up-and-comer on my radar at the price point of this print. Would you show us say two originals you would buy instead of this? |
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nobokov
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OLI EPP - WET WEATHER WARNING, by nobokov on Sept 9, 2024 23:20:18 GMT 1, Rich? You can afford an original if you can afford these overpriced editions. My main gripe in this market is the continued, wild asking prices for wet-behind-the-ear artists. It seems as if all galleries still insist on increasing the size of works and stamping a $25k price tag on pieces, when itโs their second show with decent representation. Then three months later theyโre still messaging you asking if youโre interested after you havenโt replied to their most recent follow-ups. There is not a single original work that I could own by any up-and-comer on my radar at the price point of this print. Would you show us say two originals you would buy instead of this? No, I would rather not post any links to where there is affordable originals as I would still like to buy an affordable original without much competition.
In general art (originals and editions) from most galleries are overpriced, so you'll have to identify the artists before they become up-and-coming. At this point, it doesn't really matter, because it seems like it'll all be worthless. Perhaps it might be better to focus on the pre-21st century art than emerging art.
If someone is into emerging art, they're better off buying an original at Phillips since the secondary prices for originals are in line with AA edition pricing.
Rich? You can afford an original if you can afford these overpriced editions. My main gripe in this market is the continued, wild asking prices for wet-behind-the-ear artists. It seems as if all galleries still insist on increasing the size of works and stamping a $25k price tag on pieces, when itโs their second show with decent representation. Then three months later theyโre still messaging you asking if youโre interested after you havenโt replied to their most recent follow-ups. There is not a single original work that I could own by any up-and-comer on my radar at the price point of this print. Would you show us say two originals you would buy instead of this? No, I would rather not post any links to where there is affordable originals as I would still like to buy an affordable original without much competition.
In general art (originals and editions) from most galleries are overpriced, so you'll have to identify the artists before they become up-and-coming. At this point, it doesn't really matter, because it seems like it'll all be worthless. Perhaps it might be better to focus on the pre-21st century art than emerging art.
If someone is into emerging art, they're better off buying an original at Phillips since the secondary prices for originals are in line with AA edition pricing.
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J0NNY
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OLI EPP - WET WEATHER WARNING, by J0NNY on Sept 10, 2024 0:35:06 GMT 1, 90% of edition sold already. In case you were interestedโฆ. ๐คทโโ๏ธ
A little pricey for an artist that was built mostly hype and a little artist promise. I am sure he will work hard and be successful but I doubt he will be successful enough to sell out editions at this sort of price in hours again for a very long time, if ever.
90% of edition sold already. In case you were interestedโฆ. ๐คทโโ๏ธ So they say, but I wouldnโt exactly trust that. I do think itโs his best looking image yet, if you are happy to have a moley Maccas worker or a kebab on the wall, surely youโd have this. A little pricey for an artist that was built mostly hype and a little artist promise. I am sure he will work hard and be successful but I doubt he will be successful enough to sell out editions at this sort of price in hours again for a very long time, if ever. |
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eskay
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OLI EPP - WET WEATHER WARNING, by eskay on Sept 10, 2024 7:03:36 GMT 1, Haha. Strongly agree on this.
Haha. Strongly agree on this. |
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matgab
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OLI EPP - WET WEATHER WARNING, by matgab on Sept 11, 2024 16:53:11 GMT 1, WOW.
You can feel it in the Art For Sale section, many Oli. Fashionista. Circle of hype pull by rich collector...
IMO, Oli lost his fun with this print.
WOW. You can feel it in the Art For Sale section, many Oli. Fashionista. Circle of hype pull by rich collector...
IMO, Oli lost his fun with this print.
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eskay
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OLI EPP - WET WEATHER WARNING, by eskay on Sept 13, 2024 7:03:33 GMT 1, WOW. You can feel it in the Art For Sale section, many Oli. Fashionista. Circle of hype pull by rich collector...
IMO, Oli lost his fun with this print.
Still happy I pulled the trigger
WOW. You can feel it in the Art For Sale section, many Oli. Fashionista. Circle of hype pull by rich collector...
IMO, Oli lost his fun with this print.
Great that art is subjective. I really like the new direction. It seems more mature & polished. You could say very fitting of the audiences you mention. Still happy I pulled the trigger |
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timmyup
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OLI EPP - WET WEATHER WARNING, by timmyup on Sept 13, 2024 7:07:34 GMT 1, Wow, thatโs crazy!
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