Banksy Safari in London

[ursa]

Banksy events - Onlookers - same, same?
Pics come from the video (mentioned underneath) and from footage of DmDoodle
What do you think?

[drip]

London based, right age, receding hairline, interest in Banksy, likes hanging around auction houses and street corners, that guy's almost certainly on this forum.

[kjg]

Aug 15, 2024 16:14:14 GMT 1 drip said:

London based, right age, receding hairline, interest in Banksy, likes hanging around auction houses and street corners, that guy's almost certainly on this forum.

Nearly three-fourths of this forum look like this guy🙂

[drip]

Aug 15, 2024 16:24:25 GMT 1 kjg said:

Aug 15, 2024 16:14:14 GMT 1 drip said:

London based, right age, receding hairline, interest in Banksy, likes hanging around auction houses and street corners, that guy's almost certainly on this forum.

Nearly three-fourths of this forum look like this guy🙂

I thought it was me when I first saw the pictures, until I put my glasses on.

Very nearly shat myself. Which is also a problem nearly three-fourths of this forum will suffer with.

[Lroy]

He does not look the same on the different photo …
Maybe Peter Sellers ghost ( in Lolita he is fantastic )
Clare Quillty.. So vicious.. What a fantastic performance !




I thought that on the first photo, some journalists posted him as Banksy ( making his prank no ? ) 

[PC Baby]

Saw the Gala Premiere of the film 'Being There' starring Peter Sellers at London's Leicester Square on 10 July 1980 - he played Chance, the gardener in a lovely gentle performance, which impressed me very much:

[loui]

Aug 15, 2024 16:00:48 GMT 1 ursa said:

Banksy events - Onlookers - same, same?
Pics come from the video (mentioned underneath) and from footage of DmDoodle
What do you think?

well he obviously got sth to do with it. Here he is at dismaland. Maybe a photographers

friend

 

[JW]

For those who are curious - as of lunch time today the monkeys are still untouched at Brick Lane.

I was out of London last week and have appreciated the live updates from people so I know whether I should make the trek out to see them.

[loui]

Aug 15, 2024 18:54:20 GMT 1 JW said:

For those who are curious - as of lunch time today the monkeys are still untouched at Brick Lane.

I was out of London last week and have appreciated the live updates from people so I know whether I should make the trek out to see them.

Hard to believe this is done by the same rat as the Zoo one. This is really nice. Thanks for posting.

[met]

Aug 15, 2024 0:07:15 GMT 1 henryc said:

Aug 8, 2024 23:16:03 GMT 1 sevrin said:

Aug 8, 2024 22:01:03 GMT 1 loui said:

Aug 8, 2024 21:29:30 GMT 1 loui said:

Aug 8, 2024 20:32:53 GMT 1 Acme Thunderer said:

The footage of the satellite dish being stolen gave the impression that 3 people were involved, but it was actually 4 people. They also tried to throw the phone away of the person who filmed it.

This article on the D@ily M@il website has some interesting photos. I’ve added below so you don’t have the click on the website.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13723507/banksy-unveils-fourth-artwork-peckham.html

it is even worse then this 4 blokes.

The guy with the blue jacket and cap is filming for prove the work is taken, and there is another familiar bloke on the scene. The guy with the bike stole the Stop roadsign.

Disgusting this 🤮

I believe the name of the guy with the bike is Leon Lawrence?

You mean this guy?

Leave my boy Leon out of this .. You ll never get a Dran portrait.

This exchange is of interest to me.

Primarily for the subject matter.

But also because you yourself have often come across as a genuine and fun character. As far as I'm concerned, you're an asset to the forum.


__________


For the following purpose, relevant back‑and‑forth communications between members have been brought together.

While the length may be tiresome, as a regular user of the forum's New Posts facility, I always prefer single, standalone posts that encompass entire conversations. It dispenses with any need to scroll back to previous pages for context.

I also took the liberty of correcting the quoting, to more accurately distinguish your comments from what sevrin posted on 8 August.


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Those are great doodles by Dran. Very nice of the artist to oblige. And, for you, fun souvenirs of a memorable opening event in 2015.

That said, the doodles are beside the point.

They cloud the main topic being discussed, which relates to theft.


__________


As a momentary aside, it is worth emphasising that I am an advocate for online privacy.



My general position re. privacy


Message boards have usernames for a reason, offering people an expectation of anonymity, or at least relative anonymity.

Now, if somebody wishes to publicly disclose their identity here, whether in part or in full, that is their own call to make.

But it's not up to anyone else to out them.

There are some individuals who, for example, engage in petty spats with other members and publicly refer to them by their real first names — in a display of "I know who you are", passive‑aggressive one‑upmanship. These people are clowns. They have crossed the line.



Exceptions to the rule


(i)  Public figures in art dealing

Such individuals should in my view be transparent in their business dealings. Simply as a matter of professionalism. It's the most basic demonstration of good faith.

I would be wary of any auction house representative, gallerist or private dealer who is not forthcoming about both their identity and status. This is clearly relevant information which, in fairness, should be volunteered to any prospective buyer or seller they engage with.

When a dealer fails to proactively disclose their dealer status, what does that say about their honesty or integrity?



(ii)  Fraudsters, scammers and thieves

Through their own actions, these individuals have forfeited their right to anonymity.

If hiding behind online usernames, it is in the public interest for their real identities to be disclosed. This helps to safeguard the wider community of collectors from being cheated or misled.

In addition, shining a spotlight on regular or occasional fraudsters, scammers and thieves serves as a helpful deterrent to others, who might be weighing up the risk/reward ratio of a side hustle in scumbaggery.


__________


Yes its Me, as a known, convicted thief and parasite, falls within the above exception (ii).

And given in particular his shameless recidivism, I believe it is for the greater good that he be repeatedly exposed and scorned for the unscrupulous choices he continues to make.

Admittedly, it seems doubtful that such exposure will ever change the ways of Yes its Me. But in case anyone else is looking to emulate his behaviour, they will think twice if they see it carries a real risk of being publicly named.


__________


The "Leave my boy Leon out of this" comment reminded me of a recurring problem, especially with online communications:

People will quite often argue past each other — oblivious that (a) they are talking about slightly different things, and (b) perhaps more common ground exists between them than they actually realise.



It sounds like you feel Leon Lawrence is being unfairly treated.

For my own clarity, would you deny that Lawrence is a thief and parasite?

Or is it more a case that you do accept he's a thief and parasite, but wish to convey he also has redeeming qualities (e.g. good storyteller, likes his art, loves his sneakers) — qualities that you believe outweigh his persistent thievery and parasitism?

[pauljones23]

fuck london zoo man

it's getting removed 6pm tomorrow

[7star]

I mean I can’t blame them, 6 figures on a nickable shutter ……… I imagine Brandler has offered them enough to make it tempting or Bankrobber

Anyone know what happened to Bankrobber and the silent bill he paid 250k for?

[pauljones23]

apparently being moved to a location inside the zoo!

very good chat with an anonymous.... the way team banksy operated for this spray... about 5 of them showed up, tented up, sprayed, were in and out within 45 mins

[loui]

Aug 15, 2024 19:32:04 GMT 1 met said:

Aug 15, 2024 0:07:15 GMT 1 henryc said:

They cloud the main topic being discussed, which relates to theft.


__________


As a momentary aside, it is worth emphasising that I am an advocate for online privacy.



Exceptions to the rule


(i)  Public figures in art dealing

Such individuals should in my view be transparent in their business dealings. Simply as a matter of professionalism. It's the most basic demonstration of good faith.

(ii) Fraudsters, scammers and thieves

Through their own actions, these individuals have forfeited their right to anonymity.

Very interesting this.  Thanks for posting 👍

[Sam Am]

So you now have to pay to visit it basically 😅

[JW]

Looks like perspex was put over the pelicans a couple of days ago.

(Edit - yep, just went to check it out myself. Not too bad a job though, seems much less reflective than the London Zoo perspex.)

[shoottheglass]

Aug 15, 2024 19:32:04 GMT 1 met said:

Aug 15, 2024 0:07:15 GMT 1 henryc said:

Leave my boy Leon out of this .. You ll never get a Dran portrait.

This exchange is of interest to me.

Primarily for the subject matter.

But also because you yourself have often come across as a genuine and fun character. As far as I'm concerned, you're an asset to the forum.


__________


For the following purpose, relevant back‑and‑forth communications between members have been brought together.

While the length may be tiresome, as a regular user of the forum's New Posts facility, I always prefer single, standalone posts that encompass entire conversations. It dispenses with any need to scroll back to previous pages for context.

I also took the liberty of correcting the quoting, to more accurately distinguish your comments from what sevrin posted on 8 August.


__________


Those are great doodles by Dran. Very nice of the artist to oblige. And, for you, fun souvenirs of a memorable opening event in 2015.

That said, the doodles are beside the point.

They cloud the main topic being discussed, which relates to theft.


__________


As a momentary aside, it is worth emphasising that I am an advocate for online privacy.



My general position re. privacy


Message boards have usernames for a reason, offering people an expectation of anonymity, or at least relative anonymity.

Now, if somebody wishes to publicly disclose their identity here, whether in part or in full, that is their own call to make.

But it's not up to anyone else to out them.

There are some individuals who, for example, engage in petty spats with other members and publicly refer to them by their real first names — in a display of "I know who you are", passive‑aggressive one‑upmanship. These people are clowns. They have crossed the line.



Exceptions to the rule


(i)  Public figures in art dealing

Such individuals should in my view be transparent in their business dealings. Simply as a matter of professionalism. It's the most basic demonstration of good faith.

I would be wary of any auction house representative, gallerist or private dealer who is not forthcoming about both their identity and status. This is clearly relevant information which, in fairness, should be volunteered to any prospective buyer or seller they engage with.

When a dealer fails to proactively disclose their dealer status, what does that say about their honesty or integrity?



(ii)  Fraudsters, scammers and thieves

Through their own actions, these individuals have forfeited their right to anonymity.

If hiding behind online usernames, it is in the public interest for their real identities to be disclosed. This helps to safeguard the wider community of collectors from being cheated or misled.

In addition, shining a spotlight on regular or occasional fraudsters, scammers and thieves serves as a helpful deterrent to others, who might be weighing up the risk/reward ratio of a side hustle in scumbaggery.


__________


Yes its Me , as a known, convicted thief and parasite, falls within the above exception (ii).

And given in particular his shameless recidivism, I believe it is for the greater good that he be repeatedly exposed and scorned for the unscrupulous choices he continues to make.

Admittedly, it seems doubtful that such exposure will ever change the ways of Yes its Me . But in case anyone else is looking to emulate his behaviour, they will think twice if they see it carries a real risk of being publicly named.


__________


The "Leave my boy Leon out of this" comment reminded me of a recurring problem, especially with online communications:

People will quite often argue past each other — oblivious that (a) they are talking about slightly different things, and (b) perhaps more common ground exists between them than they actually realise.



It sounds like you feel Leon Lawrence is being unfairly treated.

For my own clarity, would you deny that Lawrence is a thief and parasite?

Or is it more a case that you do accept he's a thief and parasite, but wish to convey he also has redeeming qualities (e.g. good storyteller, likes his art, loves his sneakers) — qualities that you believe outweigh his persistent thievery and parasitism?

You Sir, are a credit to this forum. Never stop in the fight to expose these scum bags. 
Keep on keeping on!

[Lroy]

On a forum we need everybody, we call that democracy and pluralism.
As in horses races, the poor talk to the rich and vice versa. 🐎
Just my opinion.

[sp3nc3r72]

Aug 14, 2024 13:19:29 GMT 1 JW said:

Popped over to see the piranhas in their new temporary habitat...




Double barriers and a security guard nearby.
Wish I had the opportunity to see it in its original location, but again, this is better than not seeing it at all.

Hi

where is the fishtank  ? 




Thanks 

[fuzzed]

Aug 17, 2024 8:19:12 GMT 1 sp3nc3r72 said:

Aug 14, 2024 13:19:29 GMT 1 JW said:

Popped over to see the piranhas in their new temporary habitat...




Double barriers and a security guard nearby.
Wish I had the opportunity to see it in its original location, but again, this is better than not seeing it at all.

Hi

where is the fishtank  ? 




Thanks 

It’s now located at the Guildhall Buildings. 

[mojo]

How does Banksy feel about the destruction of his art? He may well be cheering.
Graffiti and street art are by their nature ephemeral. More upsetting than works’ destruction is the criminalisation of some artists

[loui]

Aug 18, 2024 14:11:38 GMT 1 mojo said:

How does Banksy feel about the destruction of his art? He may well be cheering.
Graffiti and street art are by their nature ephemeral. More upsetting than works’ destruction is the criminalisation of some artists

Terrible lead. Reading this you may think he speaks about Banksy when he speaks about the “criminalisation of some artists”. 

What he actually does say is:
“Graffiti writers are still being imprisoned in the UK for placing pigment on a surface (..), while street artists like Banksy get away with the same acts owing to parochial decisions about what constitutes art. So why, even if we don’t like it, is the right to the city given only to those who can pay for it, or for things people think are worth paying for?”

It’s not a good piece anyhow, blaming the city for their choices while he could have dived deeper into the real question why works of banksy are allowed to stay while others are removed.  It’s not only about the value of the works but also about the value for the town/city, hence attracts people to the place.
Odd article.

[TAXED]

[Love Is In The Air]

Just to say I went to Brick Lane Sunday and monkeys still intact and looking great with no cover, in E17 the Pelicans have perspex on them but still look pretty good and you can take photos from other side of road where it is not too visible....

[dannubs]

Aug 19, 2024 18:50:06 GMT 1 TAXED said:

its already been posted elsewhere on the forum but Ahmed is AMBA as featured in the Cut and Run Banksy book, in light of which you can’t be mad at him for hating 😂

[TAXED]

lol amazing. what mag is this from?

[dannubs]

Aug 20, 2024 19:02:34 GMT 1 TAXED said:

lol amazing. what mag is this from?

The photos from the Cut and Run Banksy book, I think it’s also in one of the older books but I’m not sure.

how we know it’s him is he talked about being contacted for inclusion in an episode of arms house to your mums house and showed a 1/1 cut and run print he got sent for saying yes

[loui]

It would not surprise me if Andy is the rhino tagger. Nor would it surprise me if he didn’t think of it himself but was following a kind (but nevertheless an) order 🙄 (didn’t see that whole vid btw, just to the part that showed the blokes name).

[loui]

Aug 15, 2024 19:32:04 GMT 1 met said:

Aug 15, 2024 0:07:15 GMT 1 henryc said:

Leave my boy Leon out of this .. You ll never get a Dran portrait.

This exchange is of interest to me.

Primarily for the subject matter.

But also because you yourself have often come across as a genuine and fun character. As far as I'm concerned, you're an asset to the forum.


__________


For the following purpose, relevant back‑and‑forth communications between members have been brought together.

While the length may be tiresome, as a regular user of the forum's New Posts facility, I always prefer single, standalone posts that encompass entire conversations. It dispenses with any need to scroll back to previous pages for context.

I also took the liberty of correcting the quoting, to more accurately distinguish your comments from what sevrin posted on 8 August.


__________


Those are great doodles by Dran. Very nice of the artist to oblige. And, for you, fun souvenirs of a memorable opening event in 2015.

That said, the doodles are beside the point.

They cloud the main topic being discussed, which relates to theft.


__________


As a momentary aside, it is worth emphasising that I am an advocate for online privacy.



My general position re. privacy


Message boards have usernames for a reason, offering people an expectation of anonymity, or at least relative anonymity.

Now, if somebody wishes to publicly disclose their identity here, whether in part or in full, that is their own call to make.

But it's not up to anyone else to out them.

There are some individuals who, for example, engage in petty spats with other members and publicly refer to them by their real first names — in a display of "I know who you are", passive‑aggressive one‑upmanship. These people are clowns. They have crossed the line.



Exceptions to the rule


(i)  Public figures in art dealing

Such individuals should in my view be transparent in their business dealings. Simply as a matter of professionalism. It's the most basic demonstration of good faith.

I would be wary of any auction house representative, gallerist or private dealer who is not forthcoming about both their identity and status. This is clearly relevant information which, in fairness, should be volunteered to any prospective buyer or seller they engage with.

When a dealer fails to proactively disclose their dealer status, what does that say about their honesty or integrity?



(ii)  Fraudsters, scammers and thieves

Through their own actions, these individuals have forfeited their right to anonymity.

If hiding behind online usernames, it is in the public interest for their real identities to be disclosed. This helps to safeguard the wider community of collectors from being cheated or misled.

In addition, shining a spotlight on regular or occasional fraudsters, scammers and thieves serves as a helpful deterrent to others, who might be weighing up the risk/reward ratio of a side hustle in scumbaggery.


__________


Yes its Me , as a known, convicted thief and parasite, falls within the above exception (ii).

And given in particular his shameless recidivism, I believe it is for the greater good that he be repeatedly exposed and scorned for the unscrupulous choices he continues to make.

Admittedly, it seems doubtful that such exposure will ever change the ways of Yes its Me . But in case anyone else is looking to emulate his behaviour, they will think twice if they see it carries a real risk of being publicly named.


__________


The "Leave my boy Leon out of this" comment reminded me of a recurring problem, especially with online communications:

People will quite often argue past each other — oblivious that (a) they are talking about slightly different things, and (b) perhaps more common ground exists between them than they actually realise.



It sounds like you feel Leon Lawrence is being unfairly treated.

For my own clarity, would you deny that Lawrence is a thief and parasite?

Or is it more a case that you do accept he's a thief and parasite, but wish to convey he also has redeeming qualities (e.g. good storyteller, likes his art, loves his sneakers) — qualities that you believe outweigh his persistent thievery and parasitism?

has the “leave my boy Leon out of this” member HenryC answered this question yet or did he think he ain’t worth it ? Anyway the man sent me this message so maybe here’s your answer. Do you think Henryc is Banksys mate?

.

[Shoot Again]

Just back from and first thing first had to check what’s my new “local” Banksy looks like ❤️