[Onket]

Apr 24, 2024 10:00:03 GMT 1 Reader said:

Fascinating website, thanks for sharing.

Its blocked by my employer!!

[Reader]

Apr 24, 2024 11:17:29 GMT 1 Onket said:

Apr 24, 2024 10:00:03 GMT 1 Reader said:

Fascinating website, thanks for sharing.

Its blocked by my employer!!

HAHA, uh oh, who's your employer ? :-)

[LJCal]

Apr 24, 2024 8:57:31 GMT 1 milkador said:

Isn't it run by Steven Sully. He's a self made man. 

www.gripeo.com/steven-sulley/

Unbelievably, I don't understand how guys like this don't get locked up. 

[Onket]

Apr 24, 2024 12:17:27 GMT 1 Reader said:

Apr 24, 2024 11:17:29 GMT 1 Onket said:

Its blocked by my employer!!

HAHA, uh oh, who's your employer ? :-)

I'll have to see if they are featured!!

[milkador]

Worth noting that the other gallery that have been heavily pushing Richard Hambledon also has some shady links.

www.google.com/amp/s/www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/experts/article-12630393/amp/TONY-HETHERINGTON-jailed-boss-two-names.html

[topper]

Murky old world this!

[met]

Apr 24, 2024 8:57:31 GMT 1 milkador said:

Isn't it run by Steven Sully. He's a self made man.

www.gripeo.com/steven-sulley/

Thank you for this.

I remember the link having previously been posted last year by @bulldog (who's no longer with us, at least under that username) in a thread covering a Blek le Rat print release.


urbanartassociation.com/thread/184357/new-blek-rat-print-king

Apr 13, 2023 8:36:08 GMT 1 @bulldog said:

The next hype.A lot of for 1000 Euro with offer by eBay unsold, 1 print sold ?
I think its a ugly print but only my opinion, for 500 Euro ok, but not for 1000 Euro.
The hype machine is running, put the name of his new galerist from UK Mr. Steven Sully in Google, amazing Story's about this guy.You find some articles like this
www.gripeo.com/steven-sulley/

Apr 18, 2023 6:12:55 GMT 1 @bulldog said:

Maybe it's all a hype machine by the galerist, some little trolls from him.
His gallery owner is a scammer and Blek is maybe not the most honest either, yesterday they took the sound out of the video, maybe the sound will come back miraculously.
He says in the video that he doesn't necessarily want to say that Banksy is manipulating the market and doesn't know how to do it, but he now has his gallerist (the gallery owner is the guy doing the interview lol) who knows how to do it. Always take a closer look before all the shepherds start running.
The Video have 18 Likes and the guy have 10.5k fake Follwers, it's very interesting to look a little bit closer.
Pay attention to the body language of both of them, anyone who can read people knows what scratching means.

Info about the galerist

www.gripeo.com/steven-sulley/

and here the video

www.instagram.com/reel/CqHypkHualP/?igshid=ZGY5ODdmOGM=

Reminders about individuals like Steven Sulley are helpful. After all, "The best predictor of future behaviour is past behaviour."

It can be easy to overlook, especially since good con artists are always master manipulators. They persuade and switch on the charm with ease.

If I myself am going to get scammed, it will not be by anyone visibly sketchy, when my guard is already up. The person who scams me will be knowledgeable, entertaining, charismatic. They will be likeable. Somebody with whom I'd happily go to the pub for a drink. And who will know exactly what I want to hear.



Our perception can also be skewed if we focus solely on a gallery name or it's upmarket location. "Woodbury House" admittedly sounds credible, even reputable. The name evokes stability, tradition, an established business — rather than a recent upstart looking to come across as established.

[This calls to mind the intensive agriculture industries using fictional-farm branding on food packaging:

"We are Willow Farms. Look at the beautiful tree on our label. You know, healthy living, nature!" sounds a whole lot better than, "We are an industrial-livestock-production facility, otherwise known as factory farming."]



Sulley's modus operandi feels offputtingly similar to that of the disgraced art dealer, Andy Valmorbida.

No doubt the two of them spent plenty of time flocking together while discussing marketing and selling tactics for works by Richard Hambleton.

Apr 24, 2024 11:17:29 GMT 1 Onket said:

Apr 24, 2024 10:00:03 GMT 1 Reader said:

Fascinating website, thanks for sharing.

Its blocked by my employer!!

A copy-and-paste below (although without the hyperlinks):



www.gripeo.com/steven-sulley/


*Scam*
Consumer Reviews

Is Steven Sulley a carbon Credit Scammer of Woodbury House? (Update 2024)

December 2, 2023


Steven Sulley is the founder of Woodbury House and hosts the Steven Sulley Study podcast.

He founded Woodbury House in 2014 and has been running it since. Apart from that, he has been a part of the Tungsten Management Group and Minboso.

On paper, Steven Sulley seems like a reliable entrepreneur with an amazing track record. However, he has plenty of skeletons in his closet.

Steven Sulley avoids mentioning one of his biggest ventures anywhere, Pure Carbon Limited. Why? Because the company was a scam.

Yes, Steven Sulley has a history of scamming people. The following review will explain how he scammed innocent investors out of millions:





Carbon Green Capital and Pure Carbon Limited: How Sulley Made His Millions:

Carbon Green Capital was a carbon trading company which promised its investors threefold returns on their investments. The High Court closed down the company in 2014 when the investigators from the Government-run Insolvency Service found its exaggerated claims.





One judge called this company fraudulent. Note that Carbon Green Capital had attracted around £1 million from investors. Sulley had set up this company in 2012.

However, when the Court shut his fraudulent company down, he moved onto another scam, Pure Carbon Ltd.

With his new venture, Steven Sulley raked in over £3 million from gullible investors. In 2016, the High Court ordered this firm into liquidation as well.





However, the liquidators’ own enquiries were delayed because the company’s records were under the possession of the police.

Then, Sulley threatened The Mail to take down their report saying it was libellous. He said the article is defamatory to him suggesting he is a ‘career conman’ which couldn’t be further from the truth. Steven even claimed that The Mail’s report violated the Defamation Act 2013.

Luckily, The Mail declined.

Now, he has started marketing himself as an art dealer. He uses the name of the Woodbury House art gallery in Soho, London for his own company, Woodbury House to make himself seem more credible.

His firm describes itself as a ‘specialist art investment consultancy’.


More on Steven Sulley’s Carbon Credit Scam:

The High Court had shut down Pure Carbon Limited on 3rd February, 2016. It did so after the investigation by the Insolvency Service.

Pure Carbon Ltd wasn’t the only company shut down, it was shut down with 89 other firms.

Steven Sulley was the sole director of Pure Carbon Ltd. According to a REDD report, the company sold over 500,000 carbon credits to retain investors between February 2012 and February 2013 for £3,191,054.


Beware of Steven Sulley of The Steven Sulley Study:

Sulley is a serial scammer. He has stolen millions from investors through his carbon credit companies. Now, he has rebranded himself through his podcast.

However, there’s no denying that he is still a scammer. The proof is his latest venture, Woodbury House, which has used the name of a renowned art museum to borrow credibility.

He is a charlatan who even threatened The Mail UK so they would take down their report on him.

Certainly, he is a dangerous guy who you should avoid at all costs. Steven isn’t the only “guru” who tries to deceive people so they wouldn’t learn about his crooked past.

Another such guru is Justin Goodbread.

Hence, you should avoid dealing with Steven Sulley and Woodbury House at all costs.

[Onket]

I can access it from my phone.

[Majestic]

That makes for grim reading!

[LJCal]

No idea why after all these years Blek would choose to work with these absolute scum bags. Surely if it was about the money he would have teamed up with one of these boiler room galleries years back? Morals aside I think given the state of the market and the number of people burned recently, from a commercial point of view the last thing you want as an artist is to be associated with fraudsters or disreputable galleries. Someone really should have a word with him.

[alberti]

Apr 24, 2024 22:22:24 GMT 1 LJCal said:

No idea why after all these years Blek would choose to work with these absolute scum bags. Surely if it was about the money he would have teamed up with one of these boiler room galleries years back? Morals aside I think given the state of the market and the number of people burned recently, from a commercial point of view the last thing you want as an artist is to be associated with fraudsters or disreputable galleries. Someone really should have a word with him.

Simply may be because he is not aware. Can someone tell him!

[LJCal]

Apr 25, 2024 9:41:48 GMT 1 alberti said:

Apr 24, 2024 22:22:24 GMT 1 LJCal said:

No idea why after all these years Blek would choose to work with these absolute scum bags. Surely if it was about the money he would have teamed up with one of these boiler room galleries years back? Morals aside I think given the state of the market and the number of people burned recently, from a commercial point of view the last thing you want as an artist is to be associated with fraudsters or disreputable galleries. Someone really should have a word with him.

Simply may be because he is not aware. Can someone tell him!

I know a couple of people that worked with him many years ago, I'll ask them to mention it to him. Judging by the track record of owner of Woodbury he could end up folding the company at some point and not even paying Blek. 

[Deleted]

A client who was interested in Blek was told by a Woodbury representative that the next show would be Bleks last, his contract was up and he was retiring after it. 
From experience lifelong creatives like Blek/Banksy etc don't retire. It's in their makeup, who they are. They stop creating/painting when they die or if they have a medical condition that prevents it, loss of eyesight/stroke etc. They don't just stop.
The idea that Bleks retiring would certainly push a button of temptation for buyers. His last show/ last works created before hanging up the brushes.
The rumour told by Woodbury of retirement, along with his next show being the last in Woodburys contract and a sudden outlier auction result certainly raises an eyebrow.
This client had bought directly from Blek/his wife over the years. My advice was that if it was me, I would wait until the Woodbury contract ran out, reach out directly to the artist and not get caught up in the retirement claim, I just can't see it happening.
A Blek show put on by Blek/his wife in an old warehouse etc would be much more enticing. Not sure what Woodbury brings to the table for the an artist like Blek at this stage of his career for selling primary. An easy earner for the Gallery.

[jamo]

This is a great canvas. I’ve seen it several times on the wall of a framing workshop since around 2007/8. The framer is a good friend and used to do the framing for the now defunct Black Rat Press and their Blek, Nick Walker, Dface, Swoon, Matt Small shows that I attended at the same time. He still does all the framing for Dface. I’ve been using them as my framer ever since. I can 100% vouch for its authenticity (it is the artwork for the print of the same image). 

Needs a big wall! GLWTS.

[Majestic]

I was given the same 'retirement' story by Woodbury recently, which now sits rather uncomfortably given the owners history and giant auction result seemingly out of nowhere (they also tipped me off about the auction beforehand).

I tried to source a work directly through Blek but was told in no uncertain terms everything goes through Woodbury. That itself was disappointing as Blek seems to have built up a nice rapport with collectors over the years which is now unavailable to them with this new arrangement.

Apologies also to the OP for posting about this on your thread, it just appears to have opened up a line of conversation which could benefit others. It's in no way to detract from the canvas, its fantastic and I wish I could afford it!

[topper]

Apr 25, 2024 12:21:12 GMT 1 @revert said:

A client who was interested in Blek was told by a Woodbury representative that the next show would be Bleks last, his contract was up and he was retiring after it. 
From experience lifelong creatives like Blek/Banksy etc don't retire. It's in their makeup, who they are. They stop creating/painting when they die or if they have a medical condition that prevents it, loss of eyesight/stroke etc. They don't just stop.
The idea that Bleks retiring would certainly push a button of temptation for buyers. His last show/ last works created before hanging up the brushes.
The rumour told by Woodbury of retirement, along with his next show being the last in Woodburys contract and a sudden outlier auction result certainly raises an eyebrow.
This client had bought directly from Blek/his wife over the years. My advice was that if it was me, I would wait until the Woodbury contract ran out, reach out directly to the artist and not get caught up in the retirement claim, I just can't see it happening.
A Blek show put on by Blek/his wife in an old warehouse etc would be much more enticing. Not sure what Woodbury brings to the table for the an artist like Blek at this stage of his career for selling primary. An easy earner for the Gallery.

Indeed. Monet produced most of the Water Lillie series when in his eighties and half blind. I never understand the 'Banksy is retiring' rumours either. He's going nowhere.