ubl
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Ed Ruscha - New Avant Arte print release - SPAM, by ubl on Apr 1, 2024 1:52:06 GMT 1, No thread is ever complete without the: "If it were Bansky..." Yeah, fair. But when it helps make a point ๐คท๐ปโโ๏ธ Just saying that unsigned doesn't imply zero value. People will spend hundreds of dollars on folded posters that were inserts in a newspaper but complain about another artist doing an unsigned edition at a price point that is arguably reasonable compared to their other releases. I'm not even trying to convince anyone, cause the less people that buy it means a smaller edition. To each their own. That being said, I do try to buy things that I believe will, at least, hold value as you never know if/when something might come up and could need that money. As the great philosopher and TV chef Gino D'Acampo once said: "If my grandma had wheels she would be a bicycle." Just kidding of course, but it's hard to draw comparisons between different artists. Banksy would never do a timed release like this I would imagine, and Stik is a retired artist, with not a lot of work going around, also most of the newspaper posters ended up in people's bins. This release is definitely a buy if you like kind of work, as you don't know the edition numbers/fair value. Like the work, but not sure if I'll pull the trigger.
No thread is ever complete without the: "If it were Bansky..." Yeah, fair. But when it helps make a point ๐คท๐ปโโ๏ธ Just saying that unsigned doesn't imply zero value. People will spend hundreds of dollars on folded posters that were inserts in a newspaper but complain about another artist doing an unsigned edition at a price point that is arguably reasonable compared to their other releases. I'm not even trying to convince anyone, cause the less people that buy it means a smaller edition. To each their own. That being said, I do try to buy things that I believe will, at least, hold value as you never know if/when something might come up and could need that money. As the great philosopher and TV chef Gino D'Acampo once said: "If my grandma had wheels she would be a bicycle." Just kidding of course, but it's hard to draw comparisons between different artists. Banksy would never do a timed release like this I would imagine, and Stik is a retired artist, with not a lot of work going around, also most of the newspaper posters ended up in people's bins. This release is definitely a buy if you like kind of work, as you don't know the edition numbers/fair value. Like the work, but not sure if I'll pull the trigger.
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Ed Ruscha - New Avant Arte print release - SPAM, by drbf on Apr 1, 2024 2:09:38 GMT 1, The white frame looks good on SPAM!
The white frame looks good on SPAM!
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Ed Ruscha - New Avant Arte print release - SPAM, by Adam The Collector on Apr 1, 2024 5:37:32 GMT 1, I can't wait to show my friends and family SPAM on the wall
I can't wait to show my friends and family SPAM on the wall
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Acme Thunderer
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Ed Ruscha - New Avant Arte print release - SPAM, by Acme Thunderer on Apr 1, 2024 7:50:23 GMT 1, Anyone else been receiving much spam recently? Must have appeared there due to โactual sizeโ. ๐คฃ
Anyone else been receiving much spam recently? Must have appeared there due to โactual sizeโ. ๐คฃ
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Jonas B
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Ed Ruscha - New Avant Arte print release - SPAM, by Jonas B on Apr 1, 2024 9:07:22 GMT 1, Iโve realised itโs the white border that makes it look like a poster. Without the border it would have been slightly larger and framed float mounted would have looked better. Any text and numbering should have gone on the back.
Iโve realised itโs the white border that makes it look like a poster. Without the border it would have been slightly larger and framed float mounted would have looked better. Any text and numbering should have gone on the back.
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Newar
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Ed Ruscha - New Avant Arte print release - SPAM, by Newar on Apr 1, 2024 9:07:49 GMT 1, wow advertise by the big boss larry ( also ed is one of his golden goose ) We are looking for a 2k++ edition here Buy what you like adding a blind stamp would have been a nice and classy touch
wow advertise by the big boss larry ( also ed is one of his golden goose ) We are looking for a 2k++ edition here Buy what you like adding a blind stamp would have been a nice and classy touch
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Ed Ruscha - New Avant Arte print release - SPAM, by Superfuzz bigmuff on Apr 1, 2024 9:21:04 GMT 1, Anyone else been receiving much spam recently? Must have appeared there due to โactual sizeโ. ๐คฃ I think thatโs more to do with your browsing history
Anyone else been receiving much spam recently? Must have appeared there due to โactual sizeโ. ๐คฃ I think thatโs more to do with your browsing history
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Londown 01
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Ed Ruscha - New Avant Arte print release - SPAM, by Londown 01 on Apr 1, 2024 18:51:03 GMT 1, The worst editions are those that are merely reproductions of an original.
If you want to make it even worse, you don't sign it, print it with a big white border and stamp it with a museum reference.
The worst editions are those that are merely reproductions of an original.
If you want to make it even worse, you don't sign it, print it with a big white border and stamp it with a museum reference.
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Ed Ruscha - New Avant Arte print release - SPAM, by Lroy on Apr 1, 2024 19:19:26 GMT 1, The worst editions are those that are merely reproductions of an original. If you want to make it even worse, you don't sign it, print it with a big white border and stamp it with a museum reference. Maybe, but what you are trying to say is like blowing in the wind. This edition will sell. You bet ?
The worst editions are those that are merely reproductions of an original. If you want to make it even worse, you don't sign it, print it with a big white border and stamp it with a museum reference. Maybe, but what you are trying to say is like blowing in the wind. This edition will sell. You bet ?
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Winter
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Ed Ruscha - New Avant Arte print release - SPAM, by Winter on Apr 2, 2024 15:15:23 GMT 1, It will sell but flippers are getting used being burned by recent releases and I'd imagine there is a bit more hesitancy than before. I'm sure it's well produced but it does look too much like a poster for my liking.
It will sell but flippers are getting used being burned by recent releases and I'd imagine there is a bit more hesitancy than before. I'm sure it's well produced but it does look too much like a poster for my liking.
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walterwite
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Ed Ruscha - New Avant Arte print release - SPAM, by walterwite on Apr 2, 2024 15:49:21 GMT 1, Is it too late for AA to put the stamp on the back? Poster issue solved.
Is it too late for AA to put the stamp on the back? Poster issue solved.
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nobokov
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Ed Ruscha - New Avant Arte print release - SPAM, by nobokov on Apr 2, 2024 19:37:43 GMT 1, Is it too late for AA to put the stamp on the back? Poster issue solved. If you put it on the back, it's still gonna be a poster though.
Is it too late for AA to put the stamp on the back? Poster issue solved. If you put it on the back, it's still gonna be a poster though.
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Londown 01
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Ed Ruscha - New Avant Arte print release - SPAM, by Londown 01 on Apr 2, 2024 19:44:49 GMT 1, If you put it on the back, it's still gonna be a poster though. Yes, but when its hidden its easier to tell yourself that it is not
If you put it on the back, it's still gonna be a poster though. Yes, but when its hidden its easier to tell yourself that it is not
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jsher
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Ed Ruscha - New Avant Arte print release - SPAM, by jsher on Apr 3, 2024 0:17:30 GMT 1, Ultimately, ยฃ415 is not a vast sum of money.
In a world where people pedal a ยฃ3 unsigned "Banksy Rock" coaster from a gift shop for hundreds of pounds, it's really a case of each to their own.
I personally think AA are allowing young collectors or fans of Ruscha to have a small statement piece at what isn't a ludicrous price compared to other releases from artists with less recognition.
As shown in the AA in-situ image, it looks pretty nice framed up in the right setting.
Here's hoping all the haters stick to their word and the edition is of 500. But I doubt it.
Ultimately, ยฃ415 is not a vast sum of money.
In a world where people pedal a ยฃ3 unsigned "Banksy Rock" coaster from a gift shop for hundreds of pounds, it's really a case of each to their own.
I personally think AA are allowing young collectors or fans of Ruscha to have a small statement piece at what isn't a ludicrous price compared to other releases from artists with less recognition.
As shown in the AA in-situ image, it looks pretty nice framed up in the right setting.
Here's hoping all the haters stick to their word and the edition is of 500. But I doubt it.
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Jonas B
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Ed Ruscha - New Avant Arte print release - SPAM, by Jonas B on Apr 3, 2024 8:13:12 GMT 1, Ultimately, ยฃ415 is not a vast sum of money. In a world where people pedal a ยฃ3 unsigned "Banksy Rock" coaster from a gift shop for hundreds of pounds, it's really a case of each to their own. I personally think AA are allowing young collectors or fans of Ruscha to have a small statement piece at what isn't a ludicrous price compared to other releases from artists with less recognition. As shown in the AA in-situ image, it looks pretty nice framed up in the right setting. Here's hoping all the haters stick to their word and the edition is of 500. But I doubt it. ยฃ415 is a lot of money for a poster and I think the in-situ image makes it look more than a poster than Iโd originally realised. As for Banksyโs Peckham rocks, they struggle to fetch a couple of hundred now. The art market has gone super soft and AA know this. Thatโs why the price has been kept down.
Ultimately, ยฃ415 is not a vast sum of money. In a world where people pedal a ยฃ3 unsigned "Banksy Rock" coaster from a gift shop for hundreds of pounds, it's really a case of each to their own. I personally think AA are allowing young collectors or fans of Ruscha to have a small statement piece at what isn't a ludicrous price compared to other releases from artists with less recognition. As shown in the AA in-situ image, it looks pretty nice framed up in the right setting. Here's hoping all the haters stick to their word and the edition is of 500. But I doubt it. ยฃ415 is a lot of money for a poster and I think the in-situ image makes it look more than a poster than Iโd originally realised. As for Banksyโs Peckham rocks, they struggle to fetch a couple of hundred now. The art market has gone super soft and AA know this. Thatโs why the price has been kept down.
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Manty
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Ed Ruscha - New Avant Arte print release - SPAM, by Manty on Apr 3, 2024 8:32:49 GMT 1, Ultimately, ยฃ415 is not a vast sum of money. In a world where people pedal a ยฃ3 unsigned "Banksy Rock" coaster from a gift shop for hundreds of pounds, it's really a case of each to their own. I personally think AA are allowing young collectors or fans of Ruscha to have a small statement piece at what isn't a ludicrous price compared to other releases from artists with less recognition. As shown in the AA in-situ image, it looks pretty nice framed up in the right setting. Here's hoping all the haters stick to their word and the edition is of 500. But I doubt it. ยฃ415 is a lot of money for a poster and I think the in-situ image makes it look more than a poster than Iโd originally realised. As for Banksyโs Peckham rocks, they struggle to fetch a couple of hundred now. The art market has gone super soft and AA know this. Thatโs why the price has been kept down.
Seems to be more of a Hybrid (poster/print)
UV pigment print with yellow 'silkscreen' details and a matte varnish seal, printed on 410gsm Somerset Tub Sized Radiant White paper.
silkscreen, sophisticated stenciling technique for surface printing, in which a design is cut out of paper or another thin, strong material and then printed by rubbing, rolling, or spraying paint or ink through the cut out areas. It was developed about 1900 and originally used in advertising and display work
Ultimately, ยฃ415 is not a vast sum of money. In a world where people pedal a ยฃ3 unsigned "Banksy Rock" coaster from a gift shop for hundreds of pounds, it's really a case of each to their own. I personally think AA are allowing young collectors or fans of Ruscha to have a small statement piece at what isn't a ludicrous price compared to other releases from artists with less recognition. As shown in the AA in-situ image, it looks pretty nice framed up in the right setting. Here's hoping all the haters stick to their word and the edition is of 500. But I doubt it. ยฃ415 is a lot of money for a poster and I think the in-situ image makes it look more than a poster than Iโd originally realised. As for Banksyโs Peckham rocks, they struggle to fetch a couple of hundred now. The art market has gone super soft and AA know this. Thatโs why the price has been kept down. Seems to be more of a Hybrid (poster/print) UV pigment print with yellow 'silkscreen' details and a matte varnish seal, printed on 410gsm Somerset Tub Sized Radiant White paper. silkscreen, sophisticated stenciling technique for surface printing, in which a design is cut out of paper or another thin, strong material and then printed by rubbing, rolling, or spraying paint or ink through the cut out areas. It was developed about 1900 and originally used in advertising and display work
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jsher
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Ed Ruscha - New Avant Arte print release - SPAM, by jsher on Apr 3, 2024 14:06:17 GMT 1, I agree the stamp would be better suited to the back, or even in a grey ink rather than black.
In terms of the market, I think it's a great time to buy... As someone said earlier in the thread, there's always new collectors and changing tastes. Maybe a year or two ago, this timed release would have been double the price.
I think the screen-printed element will hopefully add more depth than a flat-out giclรฉe. Let's see ey!
I agree the stamp would be better suited to the back, or even in a grey ink rather than black.
In terms of the market, I think it's a great time to buy... As someone said earlier in the thread, there's always new collectors and changing tastes. Maybe a year or two ago, this timed release would have been double the price.
I think the screen-printed element will hopefully add more depth than a flat-out giclรฉe. Let's see ey!
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Ed Ruscha - New Avant Arte print release - SPAM, by drip on Apr 3, 2024 16:05:19 GMT 1, They could've embossed the text on the border. That way it would've still been there but not as in-your-face.
They could've embossed the text on the border. That way it would've still been there but not as in-your-face.
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Ed Ruscha - New Avant Arte print release - SPAM, by qest on Apr 3, 2024 16:12:42 GMT 1, Calling this a poster is either uninformed or disingenuous.
Calling this a poster is either uninformed or disingenuous.
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Ed Ruscha - New Avant Arte print release - SPAM, by blurp on Apr 3, 2024 16:16:24 GMT 1, Calling this a poster is either uninformed or disingenuous. This. The image isnt for me but the poster talk is dumb.
Calling this a poster is either uninformed or disingenuous. This. The image isnt for me but the poster talk is dumb.
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Londown 01
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Ed Ruscha - New Avant Arte print release - SPAM, by Londown 01 on Apr 3, 2024 16:25:48 GMT 1, So, please: what then is the big difference between a release like this and a poster that you can buy at the museum shop for a tenner?
So, please: what then is the big difference between a release like this and a poster that you can buy at the museum shop for a tenner?
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brule
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Ed Ruscha - New Avant Arte print release - SPAM, by brule on Apr 3, 2024 16:30:09 GMT 1, So, please: what then is the big difference between a release like this and a poster that you can buy at the museum shop for a tenner? The paper is nicer, itโs never been rolled, it has silkscreened elements and it will be a (large) numbered edition that wonโt be reprinted.
So, please: what then is the big difference between a release like this and a poster that you can buy at the museum shop for a tenner? The paper is nicer, itโs never been rolled, it has silkscreened elements and it will be a (large) numbered edition that wonโt be reprinted.
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Jonas B
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Ed Ruscha - New Avant Arte print release - SPAM, by Jonas B on Apr 3, 2024 16:38:10 GMT 1, But behind glass it will look like a framed poster. Jonas Wood Voorlinden posters bled to the edge and were only printed in limited numbers. They look amazing and cost 10 euros.
But behind glass it will look like a framed poster. Jonas Wood Voorlinden posters bled to the edge and were only printed in limited numbers. They look amazing and cost 10 euros.
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Londown 01
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Ed Ruscha - New Avant Arte print release - SPAM, by Londown 01 on Apr 3, 2024 16:44:33 GMT 1, So, please: what then is the big difference between a release like this and a poster that you can buy at the museum shop for a tenner? itโs never been rolled So once you roll it, it's not a print anymore?
So, please: what then is the big difference between a release like this and a poster that you can buy at the museum shop for a tenner? itโs never been rolled So once you roll it, it's not a print anymore?
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brule
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Ed Ruscha - New Avant Arte print release - SPAM, by brule on Apr 3, 2024 16:45:32 GMT 1, But behind glass it will look like a framed poster. Jonas Wood Voorlinden posters bled to the edge and were only printed in limited numbers. They look amazing and cost 10 euros. Iโm not trying to convince anyone to buy the Ruscha and Iโm not buying it myself but the Wood posters (which I have and love) would not have been that cheap if they were numbered.
But behind glass it will look like a framed poster. Jonas Wood Voorlinden posters bled to the edge and were only printed in limited numbers. They look amazing and cost 10 euros. Iโm not trying to convince anyone to buy the Ruscha and Iโm not buying it myself but the Wood posters (which I have and love) would not have been that cheap if they were numbered.
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brule
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Ed Ruscha - New Avant Arte print release - SPAM, by brule on Apr 3, 2024 16:49:06 GMT 1, So once you roll it, it's not a print anymore? When was the last time you bought a poster for a tenner and it shipped flat?
So once you roll it, it's not a print anymore? When was the last time you bought a poster for a tenner and it shipped flat?
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Londown 01
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Ed Ruscha - New Avant Arte print release - SPAM, by Londown 01 on Apr 3, 2024 16:51:21 GMT 1, So once you roll it, it's not a print anymore? When was the last time you bought a poster for a tenner and it shipped flat? Are you being serious? That is mostly marketing (that you are paying for) and has nothing to do with the status of the work itself. If the Uffizi started to ship their posters flat, it still wouldn't make them prints/ editions.
So once you roll it, it's not a print anymore? When was the last time you bought a poster for a tenner and it shipped flat? Are you being serious? That is mostly marketing (that you are paying for) and has nothing to do with the status of the work itself. If the Uffizi started to ship their posters flat, it still wouldn't make them prints/ editions.
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qest
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Ed Ruscha - New Avant Arte print release - SPAM, by qest on Apr 3, 2024 16:53:14 GMT 1, But behind glass it will look like a framed poster. Jonas Wood Voorlinden posters bled to the edge and were only printed in limited numbers. They look amazing and cost 10 euros. Yes, the Voorlinden is a nice poster - an offset lithograph on thin paper, printed in unknown quantities. Consider how that poster differs from any of Wood's prints and then apply the same logic here.
But behind glass it will look like a framed poster. Jonas Wood Voorlinden posters bled to the edge and were only printed in limited numbers. They look amazing and cost 10 euros. Yes, the Voorlinden is a nice poster - an offset lithograph on thin paper, printed in unknown quantities. Consider how that poster differs from any of Wood's prints and then apply the same logic here.
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brule
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Ed Ruscha - New Avant Arte print release - SPAM, by brule on Apr 3, 2024 17:01:56 GMT 1, When was the last time you bought a poster for a tenner and it shipped flat? Are you being serious? That is mostly marketing (that you are paying for) and has nothing to do with the status of the work itself. If the Uffizi started to ship their posters flat, it still wouldn't make them prints/ editions. It sounds like you shouldnโt buy this one. But flat packing is one of several features of this release that suggest it is of higher quality than a poster you can buy for a tenner.
When was the last time you bought a poster for a tenner and it shipped flat? Are you being serious? That is mostly marketing (that you are paying for) and has nothing to do with the status of the work itself. If the Uffizi started to ship their posters flat, it still wouldn't make them prints/ editions. It sounds like you shouldnโt buy this one. But flat packing is one of several features of this release that suggest it is of higher quality than a poster you can buy for a tenner.
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