nobokov
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Ed Ruscha - New Avant Arte print release - SPAM, by nobokov on Mar 27, 2024 19:30:05 GMT 1, Are timed editions good for collectors ? I wonder... I mean, are big editions of 2000/4000 are rare ? Per example, one that I bought ( and I am happy with ) : Limited Paul Insect ' Peace one, 269 editions, signed and numbered still on sale for 562 euros on Black Gallery... blacklinegallery.com/products/peaceYeah, I feel like they should at least be transparent about it, and show live how many have been sold. In theory an edition of 3000 should be cheaper then an edition of 50. At some point they just become glorified posters. I'm sure you get galleries buying them in the dozens and putting them on sale for a couple quid more. They're trying to make money. Why would they show the numbers live?
Though, it would be interesting if a place showed the numbers live for timed editions and the price point went down as the quantity increased.
Are timed editions good for collectors ? I wonder... I mean, are big editions of 2000/4000 are rare ? Per example, one that I bought ( and I am happy with ) : Limited Paul Insect ' Peace one, 269 editions, signed and numbered still on sale for 562 euros on Black Gallery... blacklinegallery.com/products/peaceYeah, I feel like they should at least be transparent about it, and show live how many have been sold. In theory an edition of 3000 should be cheaper then an edition of 50. At some point they just become glorified posters. I'm sure you get galleries buying them in the dozens and putting them on sale for a couple quid more. They're trying to make money. Why would they show the numbers live?
Though, it would be interesting if a place showed the numbers live for timed editions and the price point went down as the quantity increased.
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nobokov
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Ed Ruscha - New Avant Arte print release - SPAM, by Superfuzz bigmuff on Mar 27, 2024 20:11:03 GMT 1, Are timed editions good for collectors ? I wonder... I mean, are big editions of 2000/4000 are rare ? Per example, one that I bought ( and I am happy with ) : Limited Paul Insect ' Peace one, 269 editions, signed and numbered still on sale for 562 euros on Black Gallery... blacklinegallery.com/products/peaceYeah, I feel like they should at least be transparent about it, and show live how many have been sold. In theory an edition of 3000 should be cheaper than an edition of 50. At some point they just become glorified posters. I'm sure you get galleries buying them in the dozens and putting them on sale for a couple quid more.
Are timed editions good for collectors ? I wonder... I mean, are big editions of 2000/4000 are rare ? Per example, one that I bought ( and I am happy with ) : Limited Paul Insect ' Peace one, 269 editions, signed and numbered still on sale for 562 euros on Black Gallery... blacklinegallery.com/products/peaceYeah, I feel like they should at least be transparent about it, and show live how many have been sold. In theory an edition of 3000 should be cheaper than an edition of 50. At some point they just become glorified posters. I'm sure you get galleries buying them in the dozens and putting them on sale for a couple quid more. For one timed release AA did give an update on numbers and were accused of doing it to try and increase sales so I think there are arguments both ways. |
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ubl
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Ed Ruscha - New Avant Arte print release - SPAM, by ubl on Mar 28, 2024 0:07:46 GMT 1, Yeah, I feel like they should at least be transparent about it, and show live how many have been sold. In theory an edition of 3000 should be cheaper then an edition of 50. At some point they just become glorified posters. I'm sure you get galleries buying them in the dozens and putting them on sale for a couple quid more. They're trying to make money. Why would they show the numbers live?
Though, it would be interesting if a place showed the numbers live for timed editions and the price point went down as the quantity increased.
Because it's good and fair business practice towards your clients? Second point sounds like a fun expirement, everyone can get their hands on a print at a fair price. But the value of the release would be the same of a limited edition.
Yeah, I feel like they should at least be transparent about it, and show live how many have been sold. In theory an edition of 3000 should be cheaper then an edition of 50. At some point they just become glorified posters. I'm sure you get galleries buying them in the dozens and putting them on sale for a couple quid more. They're trying to make money. Why would they show the numbers live?
Though, it would be interesting if a place showed the numbers live for timed editions and the price point went down as the quantity increased.
Because it's good and fair business practice towards your clients? Second point sounds like a fun expirement, everyone can get their hands on a print at a fair price. But the value of the release would be the same of a limited edition. |
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quicksnap
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February 2007
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Ed Ruscha - New Avant Arte print release - SPAM, by quicksnap on Mar 28, 2024 0:42:22 GMT 1, Admittedly, I stayed out of the Condo release to save funds for this, assuming it was going to be quite pricey and signed (at least via a label). Still wish it could be signed, but not mad at it being more affordable and attainable. There's always a trade off and I'll enjoy being able to put this on my wall. It'll still have a COA (I assume) and be well documented as an approved edition.
Admittedly, I stayed out of the Condo release to save funds for this, assuming it was going to be quite pricey and signed (at least via a label). Still wish it could be signed, but not mad at it being more affordable and attainable. There's always a trade off and I'll enjoy being able to put this on my wall. It'll still have a COA (I assume) and be well documented as an approved edition.
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cemltz
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Ed Ruscha - New Avant Arte print release - SPAM, by cemltz on Mar 28, 2024 3:33:44 GMT 1, Maybe it’s just me, but making a print of an original that is called “Actual Size”…due to one of the core elements being an item drawn “actual size”…and literally labeled as “actual size” in the painting…except the print is less than 1/4 the actual size…
It’s just a poster at that point. But priced appropriately.
Maybe it’s just me, but making a print of an original that is called “Actual Size”…due to one of the core elements being an item drawn “actual size”…and literally labeled as “actual size” in the painting…except the print is less than 1/4 the actual size…
It’s just a poster at that point. But priced appropriately.
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Pafori
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Ed Ruscha - New Avant Arte print release - SPAM, by Pafori on Mar 28, 2024 3:36:47 GMT 1, Maybe it’s just me, but making a print of an original that is called “Actual Size”…due to one of the core elements being an item drawn “actual size”…and literally labeled as “actual size” in the painting…except the print is less than 1/4 the actual size… It’s just a poster at that point. But priced appropriately.
Maybe it’s just me, but making a print of an original that is called “Actual Size”…due to one of the core elements being an item drawn “actual size”…and literally labeled as “actual size” in the painting…except the print is less than 1/4 the actual size… It’s just a poster at that point. But priced appropriately. Great point ... and more irony |
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Ed Ruscha - New Avant Arte print release - SPAM, by The Italian One on Mar 28, 2024 9:10:43 GMT 1, it is NOT a poster,
you like it you buy it, if not move on.
to me it is a no brainer knowing the quality and effort AA put on those release
I just don't understand PRESALE on a timed ed..
it is NOT a poster,
you like it you buy it, if not move on.
to me it is a no brainer knowing the quality and effort AA put on those release
I just don't understand PRESALE on a timed ed..
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Beetle Bum
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October 2017
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Ed Ruscha - New Avant Arte print release - SPAM, by Beetle Bum on Mar 28, 2024 9:27:42 GMT 1, I think it is a great chance to own something from a fantastic artist.
I think it is a great chance to own something from a fantastic artist.
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sevrin
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February 2022
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Ed Ruscha - New Avant Arte print release - SPAM, by sevrin on Mar 28, 2024 10:04:02 GMT 1, Many thanks Christian, much appreciated!
Many thanks Christian, much appreciated! |
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Ed Ruscha - New Avant Arte print release - SPAM, by Acme Thunderer on Mar 28, 2024 10:04:02 GMT 1, Stunning…
Stunning… |
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Ed Ruscha - New Avant Arte print release - SPAM, by Someone Like You on Mar 28, 2024 10:04:36 GMT 1, Well done👏🏻👏🏻
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Atom Gallery
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Ed Ruscha - New Avant Arte print release - SPAM, by Atom Gallery on Mar 28, 2024 10:14:54 GMT 1, Thats a good article from AA, loved the fact that in the early Mercury space missions the one astronaut was referred to as 'Spam in a can'. Also tbh it hadn't clicked that he had painted the can actual size, although with the print it will be smaller, but who wants a 6' high print? or can afford to frame it. I find my reaction interesting to timed releases, one part of me thinks great I can definitely get one if I want and another part thinks but I dont know how special it will be. If you love the print and want to hang it and enjoy it its great, if you are looking for an investment that will look nice on the wall its a bit of a gamble, I suppose for most of us its a bit of both.
Thats a good article from AA, loved the fact that in the early Mercury space missions the one astronaut was referred to as 'Spam in a can'. Also tbh it hadn't clicked that he had painted the can actual size, although with the print it will be smaller, but who wants a 6' high print? or can afford to frame it. I find my reaction interesting to timed releases, one part of me thinks great I can definitely get one if I want and another part thinks but I dont know how special it will be. If you love the print and want to hang it and enjoy it its great, if you are looking for an investment that will look nice on the wall its a bit of a gamble, I suppose for most of us its a bit of both.
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Black Wolf
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Ed Ruscha - New Avant Arte print release - SPAM, by Black Wolf on Mar 28, 2024 10:24:34 GMT 1, I'm in, looks cool!
I'm in, looks cool!
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jamo
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June 2008
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Ed Ruscha - New Avant Arte print release - SPAM, by jamo on Mar 28, 2024 10:33:44 GMT 1, Looks brilliant. Great quality as with all AA releases and a great price. I’m in.
Looks brilliant. Great quality as with all AA releases and a great price. I’m in.
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Jonas B
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Ed Ruscha - New Avant Arte print release - SPAM, by Jonas B on Mar 28, 2024 10:41:58 GMT 1, If forum members were interested in the back story of this (historic) piece it’s well documented. Not sure why you’d need to wait for a spoon fed explanation. If people on here can be bothered there are some amazing articles online not to mention excellent Ruscha books.
If forum members were interested in the back story of this (historic) piece it’s well documented. Not sure why you’d need to wait for a spoon fed explanation. If people on here can be bothered there are some amazing articles online not to mention excellent Ruscha books.
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radarrat
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Ed Ruscha - New Avant Arte print release - SPAM, by radarrat on Mar 28, 2024 10:45:09 GMT 1, But f**k, try not to be all IN otherwise it will be too big an edition!!!
But f**k, try not to be all IN otherwise it will be too big an edition!!!
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Newar
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April 2018
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Ed Ruscha - New Avant Arte print release - SPAM, by Newar on Mar 28, 2024 11:11:32 GMT 1, Nice just to understand ?
Medium
UV pigment print with yellow silkscreen details and a matte varnish seal, printed on 410gsm Somerset Tub Sized Radiant White paper.
So it's a giclee print with 1 color (yellow) silkscreen with a varnish seal (which is great)?
Nice just to understand ?
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UV pigment print with yellow silkscreen details and a matte varnish seal, printed on 410gsm Somerset Tub Sized Radiant White paper.
So it's a giclee print with 1 color (yellow) silkscreen with a varnish seal (which is great)?
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howies
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July 2008
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Ed Ruscha - New Avant Arte print release - SPAM, by howies on Mar 28, 2024 11:15:41 GMT 1, If thats how you want to describe it, you just missed the varnish seal part
If thats how you want to describe it, you just missed the varnish seal part
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howies
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Ed Ruscha - New Avant Arte print release - SPAM, by howies on Mar 28, 2024 11:16:59 GMT 1, Iconic Image by Blue Chip Artist at great Price by a Team who have always delivered quality, Its a no brainer TBH
Edition Guess 5789
Iconic Image by Blue Chip Artist at great Price by a Team who have always delivered quality, Its a no brainer TBH
Edition Guess 5789
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harrydgc
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Ed Ruscha - New Avant Arte print release - SPAM, by harrydgc on Mar 28, 2024 11:26:06 GMT 1, Iconic image, good image size, great price + proceeds going to a good cause also, well done AA.
Iconic image, good image size, great price + proceeds going to a good cause also, well done AA.
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Londown 01
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Ed Ruscha - New Avant Arte print release - SPAM, by Londown 01 on Mar 28, 2024 11:37:23 GMT 1, you like it you buy it, if not move on.
I’d also invite those that don’t like it to join the discussion!
you like it you buy it, if not move on. I’d also invite those that don’t like it to join the discussion! |
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fm1975
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Location: Good dealings with: turntored, pndk, Catman 74, damenaz, Average Joe, Patrick 01... References available from: Sotheby’s, Christie’s, Phillips, Bonhmas, New Art Editions, Jeallous Gallery, Artnet Auctions, Piasa, Subastas Segre,
February 2018
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Ed Ruscha - New Avant Arte print release - SPAM, by fm1975 on Mar 28, 2024 11:40:51 GMT 1, Not sure if interested in this LACMA poster tbh.
AA wants you for TIMED RELEASES, but not for GOOD RELEASES.
Not sure if interested in this LACMA poster tbh.
AA wants you for TIMED RELEASES, but not for GOOD RELEASES.
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Ed Ruscha - New Avant Arte print release - SPAM, by Happy Shopper on Mar 28, 2024 11:50:14 GMT 1, Looks great. Not signed though.
Looks great. Not signed though.
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fm1975
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Location: Good dealings with: turntored, pndk, Catman 74, damenaz, Average Joe, Patrick 01... References available from: Sotheby’s, Christie’s, Phillips, Bonhmas, New Art Editions, Jeallous Gallery, Artnet Auctions, Piasa, Subastas Segre,
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Ed Ruscha - New Avant Arte print release - SPAM, by fm1975 on Mar 28, 2024 11:53:18 GMT 1, Personally I think it’s a great image. Especially if you understand the context. If the edition is $500 and signed this is a must buy for any fans of Ed’s work. Hand signed? For $500? What planet are you on?
gagosianshop.com/products/ed-ruscha-on-the-road-an-artist-book-of-the-classic-novel-by-jack-kerouac-print
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Ed Ruscha - New Avant Arte print release - SPAM, by King and a Duck on Mar 28, 2024 12:17:02 GMT 1, Shame it’s not a signed edition but for the price it’s amazing.
Best AA release since the Weiwei vase 👌🏼
Shame it’s not a signed edition but for the price it’s amazing.
Best AA release since the Weiwei vase 👌🏼
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fm1975
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Location: Good dealings with: turntored, pndk, Catman 74, damenaz, Average Joe, Patrick 01... References available from: Sotheby’s, Christie’s, Phillips, Bonhmas, New Art Editions, Jeallous Gallery, Artnet Auctions, Piasa, Subastas Segre,
February 2018
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Ed Ruscha - New Avant Arte print release - SPAM, by fm1975 on Mar 28, 2024 12:19:03 GMT 1, Stunning…
Prefer just a numeration
Stunning… A shame, so ugly imo. Prefer just a numeration |
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Pawel
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Ed Ruscha - New Avant Arte print release - SPAM, by Pawel on Mar 28, 2024 13:13:00 GMT 1, Stunning… A shame, so ugly imo. Prefer just a numeration
Stunning… A shame, so ugly imo. Prefer just a numeration Not a fan of it. Would probably frame out. |
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Ed Ruscha - New Avant Arte print release - SPAM, by its all about me on Mar 28, 2024 13:48:30 GMT 1, Stunning…
Not sure what I was expecting; but not that.
Stunning… Sadly, that makes it look like a poster from the LACMA gift shop. Not sure what I was expecting; but not that. |
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