[Andy 123]

agree
The last release 60x60 was for 1200E where the total number of prints were over 300.
Yes I would say entry point 2.5K. Should be more than timed edition with Heni as the hand screenprint on paper is way better than print on dibond. And they are signed (not sticker signed at the back)

[Acme Thunderer]

If these are being self-released via the Space Shop, I would be surprised if the 45cm x 45cm will cost any more than €1,500 (my guess is that they will be closer to €1,200).

This is a very big edition of 1,530 being sold in a fragile art market so it will be interesting to see how they decide to sell/allocate.

[lukas01]

Nov 29, 2023 23:37:02 GMT 1 Acme Thunderer said:

If these are being self-released via the Space Shop, I would be surprised if the 45cm x 45cm will cost any more than €1,500 (my guess is that they will be closer to €1,200).

This is a very big edition of 1,530 being sold in a fragile art market so it will be interesting to see how they decide to sell/allocate.

It will be a Merry Christmas for everyone.

[ck1]

Just to be clear - that picture with the prices is just someone editing up the original picture right - not from invader?

[Smokeidaeye]

Nov 30, 2023 3:32:57 GMT 1 ck1 said:

Just to be clear - that picture with the prices is just someone editing up the original picture right - not from invader?

Correct.

[monday]

Are print releases on Space Shop done by draw or fcfs ?

[KenSentMe]

Did you edit a photo from invader and just make up random prices? Why?

Nov 30, 2023 0:12:59 GMT 1 lukas01 said:

It will be a Merry Christmas for everyone.

[lukas01]

Nov 30, 2023 6:42:01 GMT 1 KenSentMe said:

Did you edit a photo from invader and just make up random prices? Why?

Nov 30, 2023 0:12:59 GMT 1 lukas01 said:

It will be a Merry Christmas for everyone.

These are the prices that I believe and hope the artist applied for the sale. Let's hope so! 🤞
Are they too low in your opinion?

[lukas01]

Nov 30, 2023 3:32:57 GMT 1 ck1 said:

Just to be clear - that picture with the prices is just someone editing up the original picture right - not from invader?

Yes!... Just a hope. 🤞

[KenSentMe]

Nov 30, 2023 8:01:14 GMT 1 lukas01 said:

These are the prices that I believe and hope the artist applied for the sale. Let's hope so! 🤞
Are they too low in your opinion?

It was bit confusing, that's all.
I myself hope it will be some kind of lottery with reasonable prices. Fair chances for everyone that would like an edition invader print on their wall.

[┏( ͡❛ ͜ʖ ͡❛)┛ EnS]

He wants ze moneeeeyyy

[collectorsdiscord]

Nov 30, 2023 5:50:57 GMT 1 monday said:

Are print releases on Space Shop done by draw or fcfs ?

they have released in both methods previously

[stuckeyc]

I believe the last proper print was alert which was lottery with the special edition was 1500 euro all in. I suspect this will be around the same for the smallest or and go up in price from there

[lukas01]

Nov 30, 2023 9:09:56 GMT 1 KenSentMe said:

Nov 30, 2023 8:01:14 GMT 1 lukas01 said:

These are the prices that I believe and hope the artist applied for the sale. Let's hope so! 🤞
Are they too low in your opinion?

It was bit confusing, that's all.
I myself hope it will be some kind of lottery with reasonable prices. Fair chances for everyone that would like an edition invader print on their wall.

There are a lot of prints and I don't think a lottery is necessary. Also because you never win instant lotteries. :-))

It would be great to buy one and put it on the wall. Obviously if it falls within the shopping budget, otherwise happy for those who can afford these works.

* I apologize for the confusion I have caused. Mine is only Hopes.

[lukas01]

The latest release of Invader and Enki was 150 euros, but besides the 20x30 print there were also other things in the package. The print is numbered but not signed. This 45x45 version is a little larger and is also signed in an edition of 120 in 5 different colors.
If we do the necessary odds, knowing that the unsigned 20x30 was sold for 120 euros, then this new smaller version should be around 210 euros. Further considering that it will be signed, then it will be released at double the price, therefore 420 euros. By making the further proportion and comparing the edition of 150 compared to the new one which is 120 pieces, we will have an increase in economic terms of a further 20%. So the hope that it can be released for less than 600 euros could have some basis. And then it's Christmas and Invader also thinks of those who can't afford large sums of money. 🙂

I hope I haven't tired anyone. 😉

[stuckeyc]

Not that it matters lukasc but some flaws in your estimation.  The smallest size is 50 x 50 (paper size not image size) So there is that. Secondly comparing this to a magazine promo edition that nobody really wants isn't really apples to apples.  The alert print (the last spaceshop release) was 1200/1500 euro and slightly larger than the smallest camo.  I would think that's the ballpark pricepoint of where these will start.  Anything less than 1k is wishful thinking imo.

[lukas01]

Nov 30, 2023 13:05:13 GMT 1 stuckeyc said:

Not that it matters lukasc but some flaws in your estimation.  The smallest size is 50 x 50 (paper size not image size) So there is that. Secondly comparing this to a magazine promo edition that nobody really wants isn't really apples to apples.  The alert print (the last spaceshop release) was 1200/1500 euro and slightly larger than the smallest camo.  I would think that's the ballpark pricepoint of where these will start.  Anything less than 1k is wishful thinking imo.

I based my measurement on what was posted on the forum. In this image it says 45x45 and Acme Thunderer also reported the same measurements. Maybe 5cm is the white edge of the print. However, I believe that little can change.
I repeat once again, if it's cheap, I will try to buy one and put it on the wall.
Otherwise I will be happy for you and anyone else can do it at a higher price.

[mmmati]

either one of the 3 smaller sizes would be a go for me... if lucky enough... probably no brainer for everyone hoping for an Invader on the wall, don't you think?

[churchwood]

A signed Invader for under 1000 euros would be great - i just cannot see it happening but happy to be proven wrong

[LJCal]

Dec 6, 2023 16:03:27 GMT 1 churchwood said:

A signed Invader for under 1000 euros would be great - i just cannot see it happening but happy to be proven wrong

You won't be, I think the floor will be €2000, well it should be. I'd actually be quite annoyed if he under priced these, they'll just sell out immediately with some people buying loads and then be flipped to death for the next 2-3 years. If the pricing is right it should take a few days or week to sell out, people can take a bit of time buy the one they want and will stop a whole load coming straight back on the market. 

Anyone have any news on a date yet? really want be a big one. If they're between €4-7k i'll be all over them assuming they don't sell out before.

[Blue]

Dec 7, 2023 5:00:17 GMT 1 LJCal said:

Dec 6, 2023 16:03:27 GMT 1 churchwood said:

A signed Invader for under 1000 euros would be great - i just cannot see it happening but happy to be proven wrong

You won't be, I think the floor will be €2000, well it should be. I'd actually be quite annoyed if he under priced these, they'll just sell out immediately with some people buying loads and then be flipped to death for the next 2-3 years. If the pricing is right it should take a few days or week to sell out, people can take a bit of time buy the one they want and will stop a whole load coming straight back on the market. 

Anyone have any news on a date yet? really want be a big one. If they're between €4-7k i'll be all over them assuming they don't sell out before.

If im honest, I'd be happy to pay a bit more for less of the usual bun fight on release... but Alert was under 2k and its larger than the small ones. Less iconic tho... but there are a lot of these... 

[ap0]

Dec 7, 2023 11:29:25 GMT 1 Blue said:

Dec 7, 2023 5:00:17 GMT 1 LJCal said:

You won't be, I think the floor will be €2000, well it should be. I'd actually be quite annoyed if he under priced these, they'll just sell out immediately with some people buying loads and then be flipped to death for the next 2-3 years. If the pricing is right it should take a few days or week to sell out, people can take a bit of time buy the one they want and will stop a whole load coming straight back on the market. 

Anyone have any news on a date yet? really want be a big one. If they're between €4-7k i'll be all over them assuming they don't sell out before.

If im honest, I'd be happy to pay a bit more for less of the usual bun fight on release... but Alert was under 2k and its larger than the small ones. Less iconic tho... but there are a lot of these... 

Exactly, considering 1500€ was for a bigger print with bigger numbers and considering the market right now I reckon the smallest will be 1200/1500

[Shoot Again]

Considering how (mega) weak the last 2 results have been for Invader's ORIGINALS at various auction houses, I reckon prices for that (HUGE edition) release should reflect the current weakness of urban art market (Invader included). I never understand why collectors would panic to buy a 50 edition PRINT (the largest one) for possibly (up to) EUR 7K when they could buy (this week) the original UNIQUE alias LDN_14 for £25K

[Lroy]

Dec 7, 2023 5:00:17 GMT 1 LJCal said:

Dec 6, 2023 16:03:27 GMT 1 churchwood said:

A signed Invader for under 1000 euros would be great - i just cannot see it happening but happy to be proven wrong

You won't be, I think the floor will be €2000, well it should be. I'd actually be quite annoyed if he under priced these, they'll just sell out immediately with some people buying loads and then be flipped to death for the next 2-3 years. If the pricing is right it should take a few days or week to sell out, people can take a bit of time buy the one they want and will stop a whole load coming straight back on the market. 

Anyone have any news on a date yet? really want be a big one. If they're between €4-7k i'll be all over them assuming they don't sell out before.

With all my friendship, we don't care about flippers ! If the only way to fight against, it’s, for the artist and the buyer, to set high or even inaccessible prices (for a print which in 2 years will be sold off, like all the old ones), this is incorrect and dishonest towards buyers who have few resources. Moreover, we buy art initially for pleasure. I find Invader and others very hypocritical to shamelessly increase sales prices because of flippers ! It’s a wrong excuse and artists should forget about flippers (moreover it is the auction houses or ebay which give the value to a work and they are happy to see the  enthusiasm about it )

[LJCal]

Dec 7, 2023 11:50:44 GMT 1 Shoot Again said:

Considering how (mega) weak the last 2 results have been for Invader's ORIGINALS at various auction houses, I reckon prices for that (HUGE edition) release should reflect the current weakness of urban art market (Invader included). I never understand why collectors would panic to buy a 50 edition PRINT (the largest one) for possibly (up to) EUR 7K when they could buy (this week) the original UNIQUE alias LDN_14 for £25K

Yeah but closer to £30k with taxes and ARR. what can I say I’m a size queen, you can barely see those tiny little aliases. 

[LJCal]

Dec 7, 2023 12:21:33 GMT 1 Lroy said:

Dec 7, 2023 5:00:17 GMT 1 LJCal said:

You won't be, I think the floor will be €2000, well it should be. I'd actually be quite annoyed if he under priced these, they'll just sell out immediately with some people buying loads and then be flipped to death for the next 2-3 years. If the pricing is right it should take a few days or week to sell out, people can take a bit of time buy the one they want and will stop a whole load coming straight back on the market. 

Anyone have any news on a date yet? really want be a big one. If they're between €4-7k i'll be all over them assuming they don't sell out before.

With all my friendship, we don't care about flippers ! If the only way to fight against, it’s, for the artist and the buyer, to set high or even inaccessible prices (for a print which in 2 years will be sold off, like all the old ones), this is incorrect and dishonest towards buyers who have few resources. Moreover, we buy art initially for pleasure. I find Invader and others very hypocritical to shamelessly increase sales prices because of flippers ! It’s a wrong excuse and artists should forget about flippers (moreover it is the auction houses or ebay which give the value to a work and they are happy to see the  enthusiasm about it )

I don’t think he increases prices because of flippers but probably because he likes money. Saying that to have works flipped excessively will of course harm an artists market if it starts bringing down prices and the perception of value/scarcity. 

[Shoot Again]

Dec 7, 2023 21:29:16 GMT 1 LJCal said:

Dec 7, 2023 11:50:44 GMT 1 Shoot Again said:

Considering how (mega) weak the last 2 results have been for Invader's ORIGINALS at various auction houses, I reckon prices for that (HUGE edition) release should reflect the current weakness of urban art market (Invader included). I never understand why collectors would panic to buy a 50 edition PRINT (the largest one) for possibly (up to) EUR 7K when they could buy (this week) the original UNIQUE alias LDN_14 for £25K

Yeah but closer to £30k with taxes and ARR. what can I say I’m a size queen, you can barely see those tiny little aliases. 

Nope, hammer was £20K so £25,400 I mentioned was already all in. Long Term go go originals over prints EVERYDAY !!!

[LJCal]

Dec 7, 2023 22:30:23 GMT 1 Shoot Again said:

Dec 7, 2023 21:29:16 GMT 1 LJCal said:

Yeah but closer to £30k with taxes and ARR. what can I say I’m a size queen, you can barely see those tiny little aliases. 

Nope, hammer was £20K so £25,400 I mentioned was already all in. Long Term go go originals over prints EVERYDAY !!!

That’s hammer price plus 27% BP. another £1,080 for VAT for UK and most EU buyers, plus 4% ARR so £800. £27,280 all in. 

[Adam The Collector]

Hello,
Deal fell through for this print and I am offering it a little lower now. $3600 plus shipping. Shipping via DHL 2 day international express to London is $250 for reference. Mint, in the original box, ready to go. Merry Christmas!

[yojoe007]

Dec 7, 2023 22:30:23 GMT 1 Shoot Again said:

Dec 7, 2023 21:29:16 GMT 1 LJCal said:

Yeah but closer to £30k with taxes and ARR. what can I say I’m a size queen, you can barely see those tiny little aliases. 

Nope, hammer was £20K so £25,400 I mentioned was already all in. Long Term go go originals over prints EVERYDAY !!!

While I agree with this *in general principle*, depending on the wealth of the collector (in this case investor?), it puts "all eggs in one basket". E.g. for that kind of money I could enjoy prints from many, many artists vs. one OG from Invader. Or one original from whomever. Unless you *know* the fate of that artist's pricing, it's effectively a one horse gamble (unless you're a baller with a collection of OGs in the same way many of us collect prints).

Tl;dr I'm too poor for originals, so I buy prints 😂