CONFIRMED NOT GENUINE Cut and run pin badge

[longshanks]

[bastonly]

That pin was not that bad. I give you 1 € including cost of shipping to France

[met]

Aug 12, 2023 21:17:39 GMT 1 Postal Pirate said:

I was not at the exhibition
Wasn’t able to attend I attended on opening day and plan to attend on final day
My brother was given these at the exhibition yesterday

I’ve deleted my post in the discord you mention as I’m sure you’re aware I’m quite public in there and with it now linking to eBay’s & other sites I feel slightly wary of what I’ve posted if I’d posted in the discord saying I’ve just posted on UAA it would have linked both my accounts which I never intended but that’s clearly done now

We assume they’re legit and posted here expecting lots more people to post they had received them prior to listing on eBay

You’ll also see I hit the eBay listings hard on day one of the banksy show and know how quickly these things drop In price once they become available fully so wanted to capatislise on that

I didn’t want to post about it in discord saying brother had these as I don’t have them and they’re not in hand I’ve made that clear they’re his not mine hes currently in Edinburgh exploring fringe bits I assume

He has two only!

I don’t know what else to say but feel this has got out of hand

I can understand your position.

Still, if matters did get out of hand, this was entirely of your own making.


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You tried to create a fake reference price by deceit.



It was pretty much as follows:

"Hey guys! These badges/pins are going for £175 apiece on eBay!! But I'm not greedy. Not me. So I'm willing to do all of you a favour by selling you mine at a special mates' rate. For the discounted price of just £130 each! Because I'm such a nice bloke."



Now, the above alone doesn't make you an outright fraudster.

[NB: This comment is of course conditional. It assumes the pins actually turn out to be official, authorised Banksy merchandise — as opposed to knockoffs whose creation was arranged by you or someone you know.]


But your lying and deception both approach the realm of fraud. They certainly demonstrate a lack of integrity.


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Moreover, you treated the entire forum as a collective of fools.

I'm sure you can accept why many members will have found this grating. Nobody likes to be taken for a dupe.

And that contempt towards us, your fellow collectors, can feel even more insulting when it's coming from somebody with your level of incompetence.



I trust you will forgive my frankness here.

Although the views I've expressed are honestly‑held, there is admittedly a risk they may be miscontrued as gratuitous.

Aug 12, 2023 21:41:48 GMT 1 Postal Pirate said:

Aug 12, 2023 21:39:05 GMT 1 Acme Thunderer said:

Even Damien thinks something smells really bad about this story?

(hopefully those eBay listings will disappear soon so the smell goes

Yeah I’ll be deleting this thread I think 
it’s gone from a sales post to a witch hunt

Aug 12, 2023 21:43:20 GMT 1 Terry Fuckwitt said:

I'm sure we'll find out more about these pins over the coming few days, unless you and your brother just got very very lucky

Aug 12, 2023 21:44:39 GMT 1 Postal Pirate said:

I really hope so! Right now this has got out of hand

Additional courtesy advice:


Seriously. Enough with your whining.

"Woe is me" is a terrible look for a wannabe scammer who's been caught out.



Just own your dishonesty. And apologise for it — with at least a modicum of sincerity and remorse.

Then try to be a better human in the future. But without any of the "I'm feeling victimised", drama‑queen antics.

Because, under the circumstances, that kind of self‑pity is grotesque.

[Jules Leotard]

Kudos to UAA 'Mystery Incorporated' for efficiently solving this. I'm going to go out on a short limb and say that those inclined to shady dealing lurking on the forum probably do realize that the best way to pull a scam off is to get UAA on-board with an item's authenticity (even temporarily). The 'jokester(s)' probably justifies it with, "but now we are part of the story, it's all in the spirit of good fun..." while lopping 200 quid from the unsuspecting's account.

w3ll Done!

[Jules Leotard]

Just to note, the hairy legs in the background of the original photos had me realizing they were not authentic from the get-go.

Also, they probably would have sold better as earrings.

Unsolicited .02

[zacksz 123123]

Aug 12, 2023 20:39:35 GMT 1 Postal Pirate said:

Aug 12, 2023 20:26:25 GMT 1 Acme Thunderer said:

The OP appears to be from near Cardiff, based on acquiring the Phlegm street piece from their local council in Cardiff.

The two different eBay sellers ‘jadavie_47’ and ‘thisthatstuffs’ who have tried to sell the 2 x pin badges are both from Cwmbran Torfaen, which is near Cardiff.

Both eBay sellers have tried to sell 2 x pin badges. The OP also had 2 x pin badges. No one else has tried to sell these badges.

The OP listed an XXL size Banksy Colston Statue T-shirt for £600 on the forum, then around the same time, the eBay seller ‘jadavie_47’ (see previous above) sold exactly the same size XXL t-shirt for £650.

The first name of the eBay seller ‘thisthatstuffs’ is Kyle (according to the eBay business account). The first name of the OP is Kyle (as they said on the Phlegm thread - urbanartassociation.com/post/2144767/thread).

I wonder what met would establish from this coincidence? 🤔

The eBay account is mine but they were given at the show 
would appreciate if you could remove the tags to my account as has personal info  
I can ask any questions there’s two available that we were given to my brother and fam

let’s not allow this to disappear 

[mojo]

Next question, how many did you have made and what do you plan to do with them now it has been established they are counterfeit knock offs produced without the artist or GOMA consent?

[bookends]

Last month members were actively encouraging and donating to counterfeit an Invader  pin badge !   

Got to love this place, Its like nowhere else I know !  

[inefficiency of]

Just came out of the exhibit, and all the staff I asked (5 - 3 in gift shop and 2 at ticket office) haven’t seen these badges. Make if that what you will.

[The Greased Piglet]

Reminds me of the Dismaland Free Art and Walled Off monkey mask. Clear bollocks.

[Terry Fuckwitt]

Aug 13, 2023 14:41:21 GMT 1 inefficiency of said:

Just came out of the exhibit, and all the staff I asked (5 - 3 in gift shop and 2 at ticket office) haven’t seen these badges. Make if that what you will.

The answer we were all very much expecting sadly. 
Thank you for taking the time to ask and I hope you didn't feel too silly in doing so👍

[Acme Thunderer]

Aug 13, 2023 14:41:21 GMT 1 inefficiency of said:

Just came out of the exhibit, and all the staff I asked (5 - 3 in gift shop and 2 at ticket office) haven’t seen these badges. Make if that what you will.

Cheers dude - that now confirms that Postal Pirate is a lying scammer who tried to fraud people on both eBay and UAA. 

Hope his ‘mates’ in the Heni Discord don’t fall for his feeble excuses and cover ups and actually realise that he tried to con people out of hundreds of pounds.

Have a safe journey back and we look forward to reading your review on the official C&R thread. 🙌

[Minecrafter]

Aug 13, 2023 15:18:38 GMT 1 Acme Thunderer said:

Aug 13, 2023 14:41:21 GMT 1 inefficiency of said:

Just came out of the exhibit, and all the staff I asked (5 - 3 in gift shop and 2 at ticket office) haven’t seen these badges. Make if that what you will.

Cheers dude - that now confirms that Postal Pirate is a lying scammer who tried to fraud people on both eBay and UAA. 

Hope his ‘mates’ in the Heni Discord don’t fall for his feeble excuses and cover ups and actually realise that he tried to con people out of hundreds of pounds.

Have a safe journey back and we look forward to reading your review on the official C&R thread. 🙌

So a "hundreds of pounds" fraud by postal pirate is something you recognise and call out but a millions of pound fraud commited by the Banksy collective and Sotheby's can be ignored ? 

The hypocrisy is strong 😂

[lukas01]

I inquired about the pins, directly to Banksy (Pest Control) staff. Let's see what to answer.

While waiting, I noticed this change:

[Street Arted 2020]

Wow Minecrafter you still here? Maybe it’s time for you to find another other forum.

[Minecrafter]

Aug 13, 2023 15:43:00 GMT 1 Street Arted 2020 said:

Wow Minecrafter you still here? Maybe it’s time for you to find another other forum.

As long as massive ongoing frauds by the collective and certain auction houses get covered up (while other frauds get called out ) Ill be here you can look forward to it. 

[Lroy]

Aug 13, 2023 14:41:21 GMT 1 inefficiency of said:

Just came out of the exhibit, and all the staff I asked (5 - 3 in gift shop and 2 at ticket office) haven’t seen these badges. Make if that what you will.

Just a question : no more stickers ? and tees ?

[bookends]

Aug 13, 2023 15:35:00 GMT 1 Minecrafter said:

The hypocrisy is strong 😂

Both you and your husband need your troubled little minds looked at !

[inefficiency of]

Aug 13, 2023 16:20:50 GMT 1 Lroy said:

Aug 13, 2023 14:41:21 GMT 1 inefficiency of said:

Just came out of the exhibit, and all the staff I asked (5 - 3 in gift shop and 2 at ticket office) haven’t seen these badges. Make if that what you will.

Just a question : no more stickers ? and tees ?

Very limited sizes of some of the T-shirts, Boarder force only in a S. 
No stickers at all given away today - I’m a big sticker nerd (Love collecting hand drawns) so asked many people working there, including; Stewards,,Security, ticket office and gift shop, all had ran out. However, I was very lucky for a member of the staff to open his wallet and give me 2 of his own. 

[Rubberneck]

Yep stickers were very hard to come by, could only get a couple on one of the 3 days I visited.. made me laugh as some people had just stuck them on the railings at the exit..

[inefficiency of]

Aug 13, 2023 18:02:13 GMT 1 Rubberneck said:

Yep stickers were very hard to come by, could only get a couple on one of the 3 days I visited.. made me laugh as some people had just stuck them on the railings at the exit..

Yup plenty around town! 

[Random Ginger Bloke]

I hope this doesn't reflect badly on any of the staff working at the exhibition with the badges allegedly being given out in the exhibition. Tbe staff have been super friendly and always genuinely happy to help, with giving out stickers (the day after I visited and they had none) to dishing out umbrellas to those waiting on the Scottish rain.

[bookends]

Funny because that is exactly what they are for ! not sitting in portfolios giving grown men stiffies

[inefficiency of]

Aug 13, 2023 18:37:24 GMT 1 bookends said:

Funny because that is exactly what they are for ! not sitting in portfolios giving grown men stiffies

For what it’s worth, Just as a side note. I’m all for stickers being used and stuck up, but also really enjoyed collecting them in a portfolio with a raging hard-on! 

[Lroy]

Aug 13, 2023 18:29:27 GMT 1 inefficiency of said:

Aug 13, 2023 18:02:13 GMT 1 Rubberneck said:

Yep stickers were very hard to come by, could only get a couple on one of the 3 days I visited.. made me laugh as some people had just stuck them on the railings at the exit..

Yup plenty around town! 

Maybe the staff or mates of the staff… or Glasgow rangers …
i don’t think that it could forum members or one taking trains or planes ✈️ 

[Terry Fuckwitt]

Aug 13, 2023 18:32:00 GMT 1 Random Ginger Bloke said:

I hope this doesn't reflect badly on any of the staff working at the exhibition with the badges allegedly being given out in the exhibition. Tbe staff have been super friendly and always genuinely happy to help, with giving out stickers (the day after I visited and they had none) to dishing out umbrellas to those waiting on the Scottish rain.

Well, apart from trying to scam fellow collectors here and his 'friends' over on discord by posting these fake pins, he would have certainly been a fuckin nuisance to the staff at GOMA. What with the fake Cut & Run insta account, then the fake AI Gwrb and now these fake pins, I expect they have had to employ more staff just to answer the same repetitive queries from the duped public. 

[compound]

Aug 13, 2023 15:46:42 GMT 1 Minecrafter said:

Aug 13, 2023 15:43:00 GMT 1 Street Arted 2020 said:

Wow Minecrafter you still here? Maybe it’s time for you to find another other forum.

As long as massive ongoing frauds by the collective and certain auction houses get covered up (while other frauds get called out ) Ill be here you can look forward to it. 

Isn’t there a TKMaxx forum you both can go on? Get some more clobber? 

[tidybut]

Hell of a thread this fairplay.

[Postal Pirate]

Yeah I lied about them being on eBay & here but I’m not a scammer!

[churchwood]

Think this is where the popcorn gif will come in hand