[Jules Leotard]

Mar 14, 2023 23:53:06 GMT 1 Smokeidaeye said:

What size are these?

From what I can tell they come in Angry and Angrier...ba da bing.  In town all week, folks!  Try the veal...

[billybob1969]

Mar 14, 2023 23:53:06 GMT 1 Smokeidaeye said:

What size are these?

They're around 6' or 15cm 

[Modern Rembrandt]

Mar 14, 2023 23:06:19 GMT 1 billybob1969 said:

Mar 14, 2023 20:12:44 GMT 1 Modern Rembrandt said:

Lmao, someone’s mad they made a poor choice living outside their means? 

Honestly bro, get fucked. Whether or not your backstory about your friend is true, I hope whoever bought the set is scrounging to get by and the Kaws market continues to soften. This is what happens when you gamble in order to flip, so stop trying to pawn off your bad decisions on the forum. 

Get fucked!?! Haha I always find that people who throw around insults to people they don't know on the internet are usually poorly educated and frustrated at a world they don't understand. Either way peace be upon you brother, hope it all works out for you. 

Was that’s suppose to offend me? My life is wonderful broski, woke up made some delicious coffee and admired the 3 Susumu canvases hanging in my home. Pretty incredible being able to live within my means and actually owning real art. 

 Clearly the only one who’s poorly educated is you, the one who felt the need to make up a sop story to sell off your poor investment. And needless to say, your angry emotional responses just speaks to how immature and stupid you really are. 

Now, be a good brit or whatever you are and down some beans for breakfast and cry over losing 30k hahaha

[Acme Thunderer]

The bashing on the thread is beyond tedious.

It’s not like the OP is selling for 5 times the amount and I expect most people who bought a set will split them up.

The seller appears to have provided far more details than others do when they sell. 

[joeyyo]

ok, that got cringy real fast

[startimeash]

Strong Swiss Tony vibes...

[John The Badgers]

Mar 15, 2023 2:22:04 GMT 1 billybob1969 said:

Mar 14, 2023 23:53:06 GMT 1 Smokeidaeye said:

What size are these?

They're around 6' or 15cm 

That's not small as mentioned in the previous posts, think these are massive.

All the best with the sales Billybob1669.

[billybob1969]

Mar 15, 2023 14:43:36 GMT 1 Modern Rembrandt said:

Mar 14, 2023 23:06:19 GMT 1 billybob1969 said:

Get fucked!?! Haha I always find that people who throw around insults to people they don't know on the internet are usually poorly educated and frustrated at a world they don't understand. Either way peace be upon you brother, hope it all works out for you. 

Was that’s suppose to offend me? My life is wonderful broski, woke up made some delicious coffee and admired the 3 Susumu canvases hanging in my home. Pretty incredible being able to live within my means and actually owning real art. 

 Clearly the only one who’s poorly educated is you, the one who felt the need to make up a sop story to sell off your poor investment. And needless to say, your angry emotional responses just speaks to how immature and stupid you really are. 

Now, be a good brit or whatever you are and down some beans for breakfast and cry over losing 30k hahaha

your kusama canvases! LMAO aren't you special. That's probably the most douche bag post I've ever seen on here, and that's saying something. 

[Jimini Cricket]

Mar 15, 2023 20:00:49 GMT 1 billybob1969 said:

Mar 15, 2023 14:43:36 GMT 1 Modern Rembrandt said:

Was that’s suppose to offend me? My life is wonderful broski, woke up made some delicious coffee and admired the 3 Susumu canvases hanging in my home. Pretty incredible being able to live within my means and actually owning real art. 

 Clearly the only one who’s poorly educated is you, the one who felt the need to make up a sop story to sell off your poor investment. And needless to say, your angry emotional responses just speaks to how immature and stupid you really are. 

Now, be a good brit or whatever you are and down some beans for breakfast and cry over losing 30k hahaha

your kusama canvases! LMAO aren't you special. That's probably the most douche bag post I've ever seen on here, and that's saying something. 

Susumu not kusama. Artist a thousandaire, not a millionaire. Been a correction in market for his poodles since the peak.

[billybob1969]

Mar 15, 2023 20:35:40 GMT 1 Jimini Cricket said:

Mar 15, 2023 20:00:49 GMT 1 billybob1969 said:

your kusama canvases! LMAO aren't you special. That's probably the most douche bag post I've ever seen on here, and that's saying something. 

Susumu not kusama. Artist a thousandaire, not a millionaire. Been a correction in market for his poodles since the peak.

Ah the guy that paints the fucking poodles, jesus the bloke is even more cringe than I thought. I thought he was just arrogant but fair play had some serious blue chip art he was bragging about, now I feel sorry for the poor guy. 

[Modern Rembrandt]

Mar 15, 2023 23:06:17 GMT 1 billybob1969 said:

Mar 15, 2023 20:35:40 GMT 1 Jimini Cricket said:

Susumu not kusama. Artist a thousandaire, not a millionaire. Been a correction in market for his poodles since the peak.

Ah the guy the paints the fucking poodles, jesus the bloke is even more cringe than I thought. I thought he was just arrogant but fair play had some serious blue chip art he was bragging about, now I feel sorry for the poor guy. 

Says the dude who spent 30k on a Kaws edition to flip. 🤣
It’s ok to hid your jealousy with anger. 

Enjoy your beans for breakfast

[billybob1969]

Mar 16, 2023 0:08:10 GMT 1 Modern Rembrandt said:

Mar 15, 2023 23:06:17 GMT 1 billybob1969 said:

Ah the guy the paints the fucking poodles, jesus the bloke is even more cringe than I thought. I thought he was just arrogant but fair play had some serious blue chip art he was bragging about, now I feel sorry for the poor guy. 

Says the dude who spent 30k on a Kaws edition to flip. 🤣
It’s ok to hid your jealousy with anger. 

Enjoy your beans for breakfast

Jealousy? haha i don't brag about what I have and certainly wouldn't be bragging about my 3 Susumu canvases. As I said I'm helping out a family member make a few quid and hope to make a few quid myself, so shoot me. These will flip by the way and certainly make a far better investment than your 3 poodles, hence back to my original comment about not taking advice from random strangers on internet forums, you've absolutely proven that's sound advice. 

[met]

Mar 15, 2023 23:06:17 GMT 1 billybob1969 said:

Mar 15, 2023 20:35:40 GMT 1 Jimini Cricket said:

Mar 15, 2023 20:00:49 GMT 1 billybob1969 said:

your kusama canvases! LMAO aren't you special. That's probably the most douche bag post I've ever seen on here, and that's saying something. 

Susumu not kusama. Artist a thousandaire, not a millionaire. Been a correction in market for his poodles since the peak.

Ah the guy the paints the fucking poodles, jesus the bloke is even more cringe than I thought. I thought he was just arrogant but fair play had some serious blue chip art he was bragging about, now I feel sorry for the poor guy. 

What distinguishes you in this tiresome tit-for-tat is that you are actually the seller here. You're supposed to be the professional dealer/trader.

And so, why not behave as a professional, with decorum and poise?

Instead of being so unpleasant, like some boorish amateur who's incapable of controlling their emotions.

[billybob1969]

Mar 16, 2023 0:08:10 GMT 1 Modern Rembrandt said:

Mar 15, 2023 23:06:17 GMT 1 billybob1969 said:

Ah the guy the paints the fucking poodles, jesus the bloke is even more cringe than I thought. I thought he was just arrogant but fair play had some serious blue chip art he was bragging about, now I feel sorry for the poor guy. 

Says the dude who spent 30k on a Kaws edition to flip. 🤣
It’s ok to hid your jealousy with anger. 

Enjoy your beans for breakfast

ooooh that's got a hurt going from couple hunni usd for a canvas and in less than a year getting bought in cause can't catch a bid with 50k usd reserve. not a good time to be in the poodle game. the fact you still have 3 of these hanging on your wall says it all really. 

[billybob1969]

Mar 16, 2023 2:09:20 GMT 1 met said:

Mar 15, 2023 23:06:17 GMT 1 billybob1969 said:

Ah the guy the paints the fucking poodles, jesus the bloke is even more cringe than I thought. I thought he was just arrogant but fair play had some serious blue chip art he was bragging about, now I feel sorry for the poor guy. 

What distinguishes you in this tiresome tit-for-tat is that you are actually the seller here. You're supposed to be the professional dealer/trader.

And so, why not behave as a professional, with decorum and poise?

Instead of being so unpleasant, like some boorish amateur who's incapable of controlling their emotions.

I'm just having a laugh pal and enjoying myself, perfectly in control. 

[met]

Mar 16, 2023 2:16:24 GMT 1 billybob1969 said:

Mar 16, 2023 2:09:20 GMT 1 met said:

What distinguishes you in this tiresome tit-for-tat is that you are actually the seller here. You're supposed to be the professional dealer/trader.

And so, why not behave as a professional, with decorum and poise?

Instead of being so unpleasant, like some boorish amateur who's incapable of controlling their emotions.

I'm just having a laugh pal and enjoying myself, perfectly in control. 

Perhaps, but it's also typical behaviour of people using duplicate or burner accounts — who are unconcerned about prolonging shitshow slanging matches, because they're unlikely to ever be held truly answerable.

Is this your sole account on the forum?

[billybob1969]

Mar 16, 2023 2:46:11 GMT 1 Modern Rembrandt said:

Mar 16, 2023 2:12:55 GMT 1 billybob1969 said:

ooooh that's got a hurt going from couple hunni usd for a canvas and in less than a year getting bought in cause can't catch a bid with 50k usd reserve. not a good time to be in the poodle game. the fact you still have 3 of these hanging on your wall says it all really. 

Bruh, unlike you i’m not a flipper. My canvases are up on the wall because that’s where they belong. Not interested in the secondary  value because they’re important and priceless to me. So nice try, your attempt to make a jab fell short. 

All three will be donated to different institutions. 

1776 for the win killa 

yeah give it a couple months and hopefully Oxfam will take them, they can go next to the Ralph Harris paintings. 

[billybob1969]

Mar 16, 2023 2:30:14 GMT 1 met said:

Mar 16, 2023 2:16:24 GMT 1 billybob1969 said:

I'm just having a laugh pal and enjoying myself, perfectly in control. 

Perhaps, but it's also typical behaviour of people using duplicate or burner accounts — who are unconcerned about prolonging shitshow slanging matches, because they're unlikely to ever be held truly answerable.

Is this your sole account on the forum?

This whole forum is basically about a dozen grumpy/greedy/bored middle aged men all with multiple accounts, who slag each other off on one account and probably sell to each other on the other. Who cares? The whole point of having user names is to have a degree of privacy and given the level of vitriol I knew I was going to get with this thread I'm probably not going to want my name, address and phone number out there.

[Wearology]

Mar 16, 2023 3:14:08 GMT 1 billybob1969 said:

Mar 16, 2023 2:30:14 GMT 1 met said:

Perhaps, but it's also typical behaviour of people using duplicate or burner accounts — who are unconcerned about prolonging shitshow slanging matches, because they're unlikely to ever be held truly answerable.

Is this your sole account on the forum?

This whole forum is basically about a dozen grumpy/greedy/bored middle aged men all with multiple accounts, who slag each other off on one account and probably sell to each other on the other. Who cares? The whole point of having user names is to have a degree of privacy and given the level of vitriol I knew I was going to get with this thread I'm probably not going to want my name, address and phone number out there.

I am a grumpy 53 year old ! 

[Jules Leotard]

Who are you calling middle-aged??? I really feel I am just peaking. I am fitter than I have been since I was 28. To be honest, I would like to fight my 25-year-old-self just to prove it. 23-year-old-self would be pushing it...

Personally, my take on this thread, is that a wanna-be-wealthy flipper (relative or not) put this on a credit card and isn't going to make all that much money because they are trying to recoup the interest they have been paying and the medium-term outlook for art (or any asset) is pretty cloudy at the moment. I also made it my mantra to only buy from the original source and never feed the flipper monsters. If everyone wised-up to this at the same time, well, it would change the world.

Vote with your wallets ladies...

[Jules Leotard]

Separately...Billybob, I have generally always enjoyed your posts and your avatar. I really feel that you could have engaged this thread differently.

[met]

Mar 16, 2023 3:14:08 GMT 1 billybob1969 said:

Mar 16, 2023 2:30:14 GMT 1 met said:

Mar 16, 2023 2:16:24 GMT 1 billybob1969 said:

I'm just having a laugh pal and enjoying myself, perfectly in control. 

Perhaps, but it's also typical behaviour of people using duplicate or burner accounts — who are unconcerned about prolonging shitshow slanging matches, because they're unlikely to ever be held truly answerable.

Is this your sole account on the forum?

This whole forum is basically about a dozen grumpy/greedy/bored middle aged men all with multiple accounts, who slag each other off on one account and probably sell to each other on the other. Who cares? The whole point of having users name is to have a degree of privacy and given the level of vitriol I knew I was going to get with this thread I'm probably not going to want my name, address and phone number out there. 

It is important for us to avoid conflating and confusing the issues.

A clear distinction may thus be helpful:


1.  Privacy is separate from what I'm referring to.

And with very limited exceptions (such as cases of fraud or theft), the privacy of forum members should certainly be fully maintained. As you've already indicated, that is indeed the point of having usernames.

I suspect there is little to no disagreement between us on the issue of privacy.



2.  My earlier comments related to duplicate or multiple accounts, being another matter altogether.

Unlike single accounts, multiple accounts held by the same individual are a nefarious influence.

They encourage nastiness and deceitful behaviour, because having more than one username allows members to feel even less answerable for their online behaviour. It removes many of the checks and balances that push some of us to remain civilised and honest, in cases where that push might not come naturally from within ourselves.

And everyone should definitely care about civility and honesty.

Presumably, this is the rationale for Rule 1 of the Forum Rules*:

1. As a member you are only allowed to use one forum account. [...]


Now, the suggestion that all members here have multiple accounts is false. Even if written in jest, this still sounds like an attempt to both trivialise and deflect.

Having more than one account is also duplicitous of course, knowingly misleading to others on this message board. It demonstrates a lack of integrity by the relevant member, a deficiency of character. Like a weasel. And who would place their trust in or give their business to a weasel?

Worst of all, since anyone who uses multiple accounts does so for the purpose of behaving and acting in a manner in which they wouldn't otherwise dare, by very definition that is cowardice — which is nay impossible to respect.


[Just as a side note, there are actually some crooks I could feasibly hold in regard, for reasons other than their dishonesty. Like, say, the ability to plan and carry out a well-executed heist.

But cowards? Never. Irrespective of any redeeming qualities they might have, their lack of backbone would trump everything else.

Spinelessness is possibly the trait I find most contemptible and unsettling; it makes me feel vicariously ashamed.]


__________


With the above distinction now dealt with, I'll repeat my question:


Is this your sole account on the forum?

[Yeah Yeah Yeah Round2]

I just read the whole thread.

Hope you get enough money to open your dream poodle parlour.

[Jules Leotard]

Didn't he already answer this question in his own way?

[this was met.  I didn't think anyone else was up...]

[alberti]

Can we cut the all bragging and showing off. I googled Susumu, ahahaha!!! So having a breakfast in front of expensive poodle canvas is one of your life's satisfaction, fair enough, to each their own.

But then, I totally fail why you come up with this in your argumentation. Bragging about being proud owner of real canvas art, you definitely sound a pretentious person. Argumentation fail!!! Same for the poodles, sorry big fail!

Ahaha, poodles, you made my day! LOL "The poodle bites, the poodle chews it"

[Snakes]

No hostility from me - I love a man in denim dungarees 👍

[Georgie Poppit]

Has your relative asked how you’re getting on selling his Kaws yet? Have you told him there’s a positive response on the forum and all is going well?

[Jimini Cricket]

Mar 16, 2023 2:30:14 GMT 1 met said:

Mar 16, 2023 2:16:24 GMT 1 billybob1969 said:

I'm just having a laugh pal and enjoying myself, perfectly in control. 

Perhaps, but it's also typical behaviour of people using duplicate or burner accounts — who are unconcerned about prolonging shitshow slanging matches, because they're unlikely to ever be held truly answerable.

Is this your sole account on the forum?

Might be a coincidence, but there is another account by the name of collectionlover that alleges to have 3 Susumu canvasses. Last activity was Dec 2022.

[Lucky Bastard]

wouldnt it be funny both accounts are the same guy

[djwhite1981]

I’ve been offered the Kaws Bronze Set at cost. I don’t have stacks of money so was keen to know if anyone has an opinion whether these are a good buy? 

I noticed that these statues caused quite a heated debate previously so I’m hoping this post doesn’t do that same, just looking for a bit of friendly advice….