cemltz
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Forget Mason Storm and WCP...if you are looking for Banksy, by cemltz on Jan 4, 2023 16:53:49 GMT 1,
In keeping with the general collapse of reality and reasonableness around here, I present the most original not original Banksy. The realest of the not real, if you will...
A lot of nice works. We should have a competition to see who can spot and name the most random pieceโฆ
Jan 7th: some additional detail and context towards bottom page one...
In keeping with the general collapse of reality and reasonableness around here, I present the most original not original Banksy. The realest of the not real, if you will...
A lot of nice works. We should have a competition to see who can spot and name the most random pieceโฆ
Jan 7th: some additional detail and context towards bottom page one...
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kjg
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Forget Mason Storm and WCP...if you are looking for Banksy, by kjg on Jan 4, 2023 17:23:19 GMT 1, Thatโs a very nice collection indeed! I really enjoyed that video, vertical or not.
Thatโs a very nice collection indeed! I really enjoyed that video, vertical or not.
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Forget Mason Storm and WCP...if you are looking for Banksy, by Dutch Art Collector on Jan 4, 2023 17:33:26 GMT 1, Wow
Wow
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mem70
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Forget Mason Storm and WCP...if you are looking for Banksy, by mem70 on Jan 4, 2023 18:59:10 GMT 1, Wowee
Wowee
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kai22
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Forget Mason Storm and WCP...if you are looking for Banksy, by kai22 on Jan 4, 2023 19:16:34 GMT 1, In keeping with the general collapse of reality and reasonableness around here, I present the most original not original Banksy. The realest of the not real, if you will... A lot of nice works. We should have a competition to see who can spot and name the most random piece... Vertical video. Sorry. Not sorry. Click here to have a look...If link doesn't work, have at it "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=61syq1iBqDo" A still image screen grab... 
In keeping with the general collapse of reality and reasonableness around here, I present the most original not original Banksy. The realest of the not real, if you will... A lot of nice works. We should have a competition to see who can spot and name the most random piece... Vertical video. Sorry. Not sorry. Click here to have a look...If link doesn't work, have at it "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=61syq1iBqDo" A still image screen grab... Are you involved in placing these into 3rd tier European auction houses? Seems like a forgerโs den. Well done. |
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321-
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Forget Mason Storm and WCP...if you are looking for Banksy, by 321- on Jan 4, 2023 19:58:04 GMT 1, Not the new Beltracci.
Not the new Beltracci.
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kjg
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December 2014
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Forget Mason Storm and WCP...if you are looking for Banksy, by kjg on Jan 4, 2023 20:51:20 GMT 1, In keeping with the general collapse of reality and reasonableness around here, I present the most original not original Banksy. The realest of the not real, if you will... A lot of nice works. We should have a competition to see who can spot and name the most random piece... Vertical video. Sorry. Not sorry. Click here to have a look...If link doesn't work, have at it "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=61syq1iBqDo" A still image screen grab... Are you involved in placing these into 3rd tier European auction houses? Seems like a forgerโs den. Well done.
In keeping with the general collapse of reality and reasonableness around here, I present the most original not original Banksy. The realest of the not real, if you will... A lot of nice works. We should have a competition to see who can spot and name the most random piece... Vertical video. Sorry. Not sorry. Click here to have a look...If link doesn't work, have at it "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=61syq1iBqDo" A still image screen grab... Are you involved in placing these into 3rd tier European auction houses? Seems like a forgerโs den. Well done. You mean that these are all fakes? |
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Sundowner
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Forget Mason Storm and WCP...if you are looking for Banksy, by Sundowner on Jan 4, 2023 20:57:56 GMT 1, I know the owners of a few of the original/real pieces that have been ripped off in this - let's just say I'm sure they'll be interested to see this.
I know the owners of a few of the original/real pieces that have been ripped off in this - let's just say I'm sure they'll be interested to see this.
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churchwood
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March 2016
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Forget Mason Storm and WCP...if you are looking for Banksy, by churchwood on Jan 4, 2023 21:27:48 GMT 1, What are we actually looking at, it's thrown me, plus there's an awful lot going on
What are we actually looking at, it's thrown me, plus there's an awful lot going on
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sevrin
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February 2022
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Forget Mason Storm and WCP...if you are looking for Banksy, by sevrin on Jan 4, 2023 21:53:43 GMT 1, The most intriguing thread I have seen in a while! is 'cemltz' a master forger? a crypto millionaire? a psychotic art kleptomaniac? an art collector with too few walls? or an art dealer with lack of proper storage facilities? will we ever know? 
The most intriguing thread I have seen in a while! is 'cemltz' a master forger? a crypto millionaire? a psychotic art kleptomaniac? an art collector with too few walls? or an art dealer with lack of proper storage facilities? will we ever know? |
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Forget Mason Storm and WCP...if you are looking for Banksy, by Lroy on Jan 4, 2023 21:54:23 GMT 1, Bravo ! we need more !
Impressive !
Ali Babanksyโs cave !
Bravo ! we need more !
Impressive !
Ali Babanksyโs cave !
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kai22
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September 2022
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Forget Mason Storm and WCP...if you are looking for Banksy, by kai22 on Jan 4, 2023 22:53:36 GMT 1, Are you involved in placing these into 3rd tier European auction houses? Seems like a forgerโs den. Well done. You mean that these are all fakes?
Are you involved in placing these into 3rd tier European auction houses? Seems like a forgerโs den. Well done. You mean that these are all fakes? Yes - he clearly states these are not Banksyโs |
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mojo
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Forget Mason Storm and WCP...if you are looking for Banksy, by mojo on Jan 4, 2023 23:06:59 GMT 1, Just WHY?
Just WHY?
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kjg
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Forget Mason Storm and WCP...if you are looking for Banksy, by kjg on Jan 4, 2023 23:18:02 GMT 1, You mean that these are all fakes? Yes - he clearly states these are not Banksyโs
You mean that these are all fakes? Yes - he clearly states these are not Banksyโs Oh, dear. I am so naive sometimes. |
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sevrin
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February 2022
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Forget Mason Storm and WCP...if you are looking for Banksy, by sevrin on Jan 4, 2023 23:19:03 GMT 1, LMAO 
LMAO |
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Newar
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Forget Mason Storm and WCP...if you are looking for Banksy, by Newar on Jan 5, 2023 12:43:11 GMT 1, He should do banksy stencil class on canvas for kids i'm sure my son will go for one or two of these
Thanks for the video it's refreshing !
He should do banksy stencil class on canvas for kids i'm sure my son will go for one or two of these Thanks for the video it's refreshing ! |
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Extra Ball
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Forget Mason Storm and WCP...if you are looking for Banksy, by Extra Ball on Jan 5, 2023 18:08:39 GMT 1, Former companion of Pow perhaps because many of these pieces have not appeared in the catalogs of auction houses for a very long time.
From when and how much does it become pathological? such purchases...
To be honest, I'll have trouble sleeping with such a collection.
Thanks for sharing this stuff with us.
Former companion of Pow perhaps because many of these pieces have not appeared in the catalogs of auction houses for a very long time.
From when and how much does it become pathological? such purchases...
To be honest, I'll have trouble sleeping with such a collection.
Thanks for sharing this stuff with us.
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hnkpnk
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Forget Mason Storm and WCP...if you are looking for Banksy, by hnkpnk on Jan 5, 2023 19:41:30 GMT 1, Itโs scary if they are fake. Thereโs a lot and look good. But most look too new.
But even more scary if they are real. A fast count is about 85 Banksy plus Kaws, Miss Bugs, Obey, Kenny Scharf and more
Itโs scary if they are fake. Thereโs a lot and look good. But most look too new.
But even more scary if they are real. A fast count is about 85 Banksy plus Kaws, Miss Bugs, Obey, Kenny Scharf and more
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artzhole
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Forget Mason Storm and WCP...if you are looking for Banksy, by artzhole on Jan 5, 2023 20:45:53 GMT 1, Really enjoyed that video tour, are these all painted my yourself?.. do you only do copies ect.. or do you do your own stuff too?... be great to see if so.
Really enjoyed that video tour, are these all painted my yourself?.. do you only do copies ect.. or do you do your own stuff too?... be great to see if so.
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artzhole
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Forget Mason Storm and WCP...if you are looking for Banksy, by artzhole on Jan 5, 2023 21:22:10 GMT 1, I'm a little confused with this now, excuse me if I'm being a dullard but these are copies yeah?... or is this actually a cave of wonders?
No cant be ๐ค ....or could it ๐ค
Naaa ๐คช
Eeither way it's a great collection, too much for one person though ๐๐
I'm a little confused with this now, excuse me if I'm being a dullard but these are copies yeah?... or is this actually a cave of wonders?
No cant be ๐ค ....or could it ๐ค
Naaa ๐คช
Eeither way it's a great collection, too much for one person though ๐๐
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Manty
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Forget Mason Storm and WCP...if you are looking for Banksy, by Manty on Jan 5, 2023 22:02:16 GMT 1, I'm a little confused with this now, excuse me if I'm being a dullard but these are copies yeah?... or is this actually a cave of wonders? No cant be ๐ค ....or could it ๐ค Naaa ๐คช Eeither way it's a great collection, too much for one person though ๐๐
Coming to a market stall in NY shortly
I'm a little confused with this now, excuse me if I'm being a dullard but these are copies yeah?... or is this actually a cave of wonders? No cant be ๐ค ....or could it ๐ค Naaa ๐คช Eeither way it's a great collection, too much for one person though ๐๐ Coming to a market stall in NY shortly |
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obaki69
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Forget Mason Storm and WCP...if you are looking for Banksy, by obaki69 on Jan 5, 2023 22:11:33 GMT 1, Laz, why did you make a UAA account just to show off??
Laz, why did you make a UAA account just to show off??
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Skizz 82
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Forget Mason Storm and WCP...if you are looking for Banksy, by Skizz 82 on Jan 6, 2023 0:17:04 GMT 1, Can i have One of your original not original?
Joking. Not joking
Can i have One of your original not original?
Joking. Not joking
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bba
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December 2022
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Forget Mason Storm and WCP...if you are looking for Banksy, by bba on Jan 6, 2023 17:37:46 GMT 1, A Banksy basement beyond belief! Are they yours and are they all fakes or just the canvases?
A Banksy basement beyond belief! Are they yours and are they all fakes or just the canvases?
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cemltz
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October 2022
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Forget Mason Storm and WCP...if you are looking for Banksy, by cemltz on Jan 7, 2023 19:11:58 GMT 1, Some quick follow ups to address questions in the thread and messages:
Q: What the heck is this?
A: Every 6 months or so I rotate artwork in the house. For the holidays I pulled a bunch of stuff out of basement storage looking for inspiration. Just laid it around. That's what this is.
Q: No. Really. What the hell are we looking at?
A: Everything fits in to one of the following buckets. I guess I could take a count if folks wanted.
1) Some original Banksy prints
2) Some (a lot of) WCP prints
3) Some original Banksy canvases
4) Some (a lot of) handmade replica Banksy canvases
5) Everything else is "real"
Q: So if it's not Banksy, it's real?
A: Correct
Q: Who made the "replica " canvases?
A: I did.
Q: Why?
A: Short story is that some of it was me just getting tired of chasing Banksy's in to the stratosphere at auction, but most of it was a side project to sharpen up on my drawing, stencil making and painting. They are all hand-drawn, hand cut, and hand painted. Wherever possible I used in-person reference works.
Q: Are they any good?
A: Banksy is human (I think). He does stencil work. He is limited to physical materials and basic techniques that we all have access to. Of course there is some "magic" in his touch and approach, sure. Without actually handling and looking at the back of the pieces, I suspect most people couldn't separate the real from the replicas on the "Santa's Ghetto" wall (mostly 2003-05 editions, basic black & red stencils). With the heavier acrylic and multilayer works, I'm sure there are differences in our brushstrokes.
Q: Are they for sale?
A: No. They have never been above ground or seen the light of day other than this quick video. As per Pest Control's guidance, strictly for "non-commercial, personal amusement"...
Some quick follow ups to address questions in the thread and messages:
Q: What the heck is this?
A: Every 6 months or so I rotate artwork in the house. For the holidays I pulled a bunch of stuff out of basement storage looking for inspiration. Just laid it around. That's what this is.
Q: No. Really. What the hell are we looking at?
A: Everything fits in to one of the following buckets. I guess I could take a count if folks wanted.
1) Some original Banksy prints
2) Some (a lot of) WCP prints
3) Some original Banksy canvases
4) Some (a lot of) handmade replica Banksy canvases
5) Everything else is "real"
Q: So if it's not Banksy, it's real?
A: Correct
Q: Who made the "replica " canvases?
A: I did.
Q: Why?
A: Short story is that some of it was me just getting tired of chasing Banksy's in to the stratosphere at auction, but most of it was a side project to sharpen up on my drawing, stencil making and painting. They are all hand-drawn, hand cut, and hand painted. Wherever possible I used in-person reference works.
Q: Are they any good?
A: Banksy is human (I think). He does stencil work. He is limited to physical materials and basic techniques that we all have access to. Of course there is some "magic" in his touch and approach, sure. Without actually handling and looking at the back of the pieces, I suspect most people couldn't separate the real from the replicas on the "Santa's Ghetto" wall (mostly 2003-05 editions, basic black & red stencils). With the heavier acrylic and multilayer works, I'm sure there are differences in our brushstrokes.
Q: Are they for sale?
A: No. They have never been above ground or seen the light of day other than this quick video. As per Pest Control's guidance, strictly for "non-commercial, personal amusement"...
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lollie
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January 2021
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Forget Mason Storm and WCP...if you are looking for Banksy, by lollie on Jan 7, 2023 20:00:41 GMT 1, Bet your inbox is beginning to fill up!!
Bet your inbox is beginning to fill up!!
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bookends
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May 2022
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Forget Mason Storm and WCP...if you are looking for Banksy, by bookends on Jan 7, 2023 22:42:18 GMT 1, Pity you dont have as much imagination or originality as you do time and money,
Pity you dont have as much imagination or originality as you do time and money,
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tinypoubelle
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January 2017
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Forget Mason Storm and WCP...if you are looking for Banksy, by tinypoubelle on Jan 8, 2023 0:49:50 GMT 1, You couldnโt sound more bitter if you tried.
You couldnโt sound more bitter if you tried.
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cemltz
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October 2022
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Forget Mason Storm and WCP...if you are looking for Banksy, by cemltz on Jan 8, 2023 21:42:17 GMT 1, Pity you dont have as much imagination or originality as you do time and money,
Obviously the extent of my imagination and originality is not mine to judge. But I am truly fortunate to have a fair list of clients that seem happy with it. I assure you, I was most definitely not born with the โtime and moneyโ you seem to discount.
in the off chance I am misunderstanding your snippet, and you are actually interested in such things, a small snapshot of one of the pieces I am currently working on, below. A sneak peak of the lower 1/8th of what will be a 36x48 stencil. First of a series of collaborations with a handful of other artists using famous prisons as the background - in this case, Kingston Penitentiary. (Google it - stunning location and architecture that I think really lends itself to some cool potential stencils.) Will have different artists add art to the various prison walls, highlighting various social issues, etc. Obviously pretty large and fine stencil work, so a fun challenge.
Will keep you updated on the progress.
Es tu, Brutus?
Pity you dont have as much imagination or originality as you do time and money, Youโll have to forgive me if so - but I donโt think we have met, no? Do we know each other? A bizarre accusation for someone you donโt know. Oh well, such is the internet and, for some reason, this particular corner of it. Obviously the extent of my imagination and originality is not mine to judge. But I am truly fortunate to have a fair list of clients that seem happy with it. I assure you, I was most definitely not born with the โtime and moneyโ you seem to discount. in the off chance I am misunderstanding your snippet, and you are actually interested in such things, a small snapshot of one of the pieces I am currently working on, below. A sneak peak of the lower 1/8th of what will be a 36x48 stencil. First of a series of collaborations with a handful of other artists using famous prisons as the background - in this case, Kingston Penitentiary. (Google it - stunning location and architecture that I think really lends itself to some cool potential stencils.) Will have different artists add art to the various prison walls, highlighting various social issues, etc. Obviously pretty large and fine stencil work, so a fun challenge. Will keep you updated on the progress. Es tu, Brutus? |
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fabienmitch
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Forget Mason Storm and WCP...if you are looking for Banksy, by fabienmitch on Jan 9, 2023 17:58:51 GMT 1, In keeping with the general collapse of reality and reasonableness around here, I present the most original not original Banksy. The realest of the not real, if you will... A lot of nice works. We should have a competition to see who can spot and name the most random piece... Vertical video. Sorry. Not sorry. Click here to have a look...If link doesn't work, have at it "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=61syq1iBqDo" Jan 7th: some additional detail and context towards bottom page one...A still image screen grab...
In keeping with the general collapse of reality and reasonableness around here, I present the most original not original Banksy. The realest of the not real, if you will... A lot of nice works. We should have a competition to see who can spot and name the most random piece... Vertical video. Sorry. Not sorry. Click here to have a look...If link doesn't work, have at it "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=61syq1iBqDo" Jan 7th: some additional detail and context towards bottom page one...A still image screen grab... fake banksy |
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