[thos]

I thought the signed books were randomly interspersed in the book orders from Invader's website, so basically getting a signed one was sheer luck (and same price as a regular edition).

Am I misremembering?

EDIT: Guess I was wrong!  Sorry to add some confusion here.

[Art lover lover]

€800 is correct. These weren’t random.

[30sir]

Feb 9, 2024 19:57:27 GMT 1 Art lover lover said:

€800 is correct. These weren’t random.

Just checked and i was charged close to 1k including import and shipping
but yes they “retailed” them at 800

[Art lover lover]

Feb 9, 2024 20:15:23 GMT 1 30sir said:

Feb 9, 2024 19:57:27 GMT 1 Art lover lover said:

€800 is correct. These weren’t random.

Just checked and i was charged close to 1k including import and shipping
but yes they “retailed” them at 800

Doesn’t sound off. GLWTS.

[30sir]

Bump

[Lroy]

Some flippers have a lot of money ( not you op )
Wish you can sell it !

[30sir]

sold thank you

[30sir]

Unfortunately sale fell through, available again

[chunk]

What is the current price? Thanks.

[gorkie]

The signed/numbered is a very cool little nugget to have.
I'm very happy to have mine.
Good luck with the sale.

[mcchicken]

For those who were wondering how to get a perfectly framed version of the signed book cover edition.
3 months lead time to do it from my (well known in this forum) frame shop here in London.
Dry mounted, box frame / floated, white birch.
Looks MUCH better in the flesh

[Pafori]

Apr 14, 2024 9:46:57 GMT 1 mcchicken said:

For those who were wondering how to get a perfectly framed version of the signed book cover edition.
3 months lead time to do it from my (well known in this forum) frame shop here in London.
Dry mounted, box frame / floated, white birch.
Looks MUCH better in the flesh

Looks amazing! For me, framing is exactly as I would like.

Question: could you describe what dry mount means? Can the cover be separated from the backing if desired at a later date?

I'm in LA, not sure my framer would know this technique?

[met]

Apr 15, 2024 14:59:12 GMT 1 Pafori said:

Apr 14, 2024 9:46:57 GMT 1 mcchicken said:

For those who were wondering how to get a perfectly framed version of the signed book cover edition.
3 months lead time to do it from my (well known in this forum) frame shop here in London.
Dry mounted, box frame / floated, white birch.
Looks MUCH better in the flesh

Looks amazing! For me, framing is exactly as I would like.

Question: could you describe what dry mount means? Can the cover be separated from the backing if desired at a later date?

I'm in LA, not sure my framer would know this technique?

Your framer will know the technique.

Drymounting a piece means glueing it to a mount.

[Fancier terms might be used instead of "glue" or "glueing", like "adhesive" or "bonding", but they mean the same thing.]



Drymounting can offer presentational advantages, especially if the relevant piece is a work on paper that has been creased or folded.

But for anything of significant value and deemed fine art, you'd be best advised to avoid this technique. Many, myself included, see it as sacrilegious.

It is basically irreversible. And the general rule in the art world is as follows:


Ensure the preservation of your artwork's original condition. Do nothing that will permanently/irreversibly alter that condition.



Collectors can of course ignore this rule. However, they'd be doing so at their financial peril if the time ever came when they needed to resell.

As an experiment, trying having an in-person chat with a specialist at Christie's, Sotheby's or Phillips. Let them know you're looking to sell three or four signed Banksy screenprints.

Then see the dramatic change in their facial expression when you tell them you recently had the prints drymounted.

[Cool User Name]

Those poster dudes on expressobeans forum used to, and maybe still do use 'drymounted' as a replacement for 'fucked'. This does look nice though.

[Pafori]

Apr 15, 2024 17:50:15 GMT 1 met said:

Apr 15, 2024 14:59:12 GMT 1 Pafori said:

Looks amazing! For me, framing is exactly as I would like.

Question: could you describe what dry mount means? Can the cover be separated from the backing if desired at a later date?

I'm in LA, not sure my framer would know this technique?

Your framer will know the technique.

Drymounting a piece means glueing it to a mount.

[Fancier terms might be used instead of "glue" or "glueing", like "adhesive" or "bonding", but they mean the same thing.]



Drymounting can offer presentational advantages, especially if the relevant piece is a work on paper that has been creased or folded.

But for anything of significant value and deemed fine art, you'd be best advised to avoid this technique. Many, myself included, see it as sacrilegious.

It is basically irreversible. And the general rule in the art world is as follows:


Ensure the preservation of your artwork's original condition. Do nothing that will permanently/irreversibly alter that condition.



Collectors can of course ignore this rule. However, they'd be doing so at their financial peril if the time ever came when they needed to resell.

As an experiment, trying having an in-person chat with a specialist at Christie's, Sotheby's or Phillips. Let them know you're looking to sell three or four signed Banksy screenprints.

Then see the dramatic change in their facial expression when you tell them you recently had the prints drymounted.

Lol Met, thanks for all of the details. This was my understanding, was hoping there was some new technique that allowed for removal from backing. Seems not? Have to say it looks great! Understanding the resale peril I would not have done so.

[alberti]

Apr 15, 2024 18:34:03 GMT 1 Pafori said:

Apr 15, 2024 17:50:15 GMT 1 met said:

Your framer will know the technique.

Drymounting a piece means glueing it to a mount.

[Fancier terms might be used instead of "glue" or "glueing", like "adhesive" or "bonding", but they mean the same thing.]



Drymounting can offer presentational advantages, especially if the relevant piece is a work on paper that has been creased or folded.

But for anything of significant value and deemed fine art, you'd be best advised to avoid this technique. Many, myself included, see it as sacrilegious.

It is basically irreversible. And the general rule in the art world is as follows:


Ensure the preservation of your artwork's original condition. Do nothing that will permanently/irreversibly alter that condition.



Collectors can of course ignore this rule. However, they'd be doing so at their financial peril if the time ever came when they needed to resell.

As an experiment, trying having an in-person chat with a specialist at Christie's, Sotheby's or Phillips. Let them know you're looking to sell three or four signed Banksy screenprints.

Then see the dramatic change in their facial expression when you tell them you recently had the prints drymounted.

Lol Met, thanks for all of the details. This was my understanding, was hoping there was some new technique that allowed for removal from backing. Seems not? Have to say it looks great! Understanding the resale peril I would not have done so.

Yeah, drymounted suck big time!   Still, the framing is nice, drymounted on board to allow a float mounted frame.

There are reversible method for backing, you need to look for linenbacking. But most reversible process involve water, reversible stash glue and a lot of drying. Linen with buffer paper are used, the linen is flexible and stiffen during drying. Once the all thing is dried, you can glue the artwork using the same reversible glue.  It is still a process and .

Another cheap and possible option, get two thin acrylic sheet and sandwich the poster between the two sheet, using small clips.  Then put the all thing in another frame, float mounted.    Pros of this method, there is no drymounting, nor glue, nothing.... the poster is untouched. 

[mcchicken]

Yes, for a "normal" artwork I would definitely not use dry mounting, and ensure it's 100% reversible.
However for this specific piece, the paper is actually very thin / fragile, so would take a risk getting it framed. Similarly, the crease would still be very visible without it. The piece was actually sent by the framer to a dry mounting specialist, for high value ,& fragile work like this, and then back to the frame expert.

Anyway, personal choice obviously, but in this instance I am 100% happy with the result. I don't care about future value either for this piece, just for my own enjoyment

[alberti]

Apr 16, 2024 11:40:25 GMT 1 mcchicken said:

Yes, for a "normal" artwork I would definitely not use dry mounting, and ensure it's 100% reversible.
However for this specific piece, the paper is actually very thin / fragile, so would take a risk getting it framed. Similarly, the crease would still be very visible without it. The piece was actually sent by the framer to a dry mounting specialist, for high value ,& fragile work like this, and then back to the frame expert.

Anyway, personal choice obviously, but in this instance I am 100% happy with the result. I don't care about future value either for this piece, just for my own enjoyment

It is indeed very well done!  Yeap, paper is thin; fold creases shouldn't be a concern, many "purists" are fine with them.   The dry mounting is well done; nothing worst than a bad dry mounted with waves, glue marks and creases.    

[mcchicken]

Another option that the Frame expert suggested was the "Embrace" the crease, or even accentuate it, and effectively make it a 3D piece, and hang it in place using a technique (Japanese) which I can't remember the name of. In this case would be 100% reversible, if that's what you are looking for.
But I preferred going for dry mounting, for that specific one (wouldn't do it on other Invaders)

[Pafori]

Apr 16, 2024 13:30:59 GMT 1 mcchicken said:

Another option that the Frame expert suggested was the "Embrace" the crease, or even accentuate it, and effectively make it a 3D piece, and hang it in place using a technique (Japanese) which I can't remember the name of. In this case would be 100% reversible, if that's what you are looking for.
But I preferred going for dry mounting, for that specific one (wouldn't do it on other Invaders)

I appreciate the comments and insight from everyone regarding your Invader and the framing. IMO you made a great decision, mcchicken, the dry mount allows the work to display 💯 ... this is becoming a favorite Invader piece for me, a collage of his work somehow captures the beauty and mess of urban art.

[Bryan Charles Van]

what are these going for right now on the secondary?

[Judgement day]

remind me again what is the difference between the 1st and 2nd edition?

[Acme Thunderer]

Nov 5, 2024 18:24:35 GMT 1 Judgement day said:

remind me again what is the difference between the 1st and 2nd edition?

There were mistakes in the first edition that were then amended for the second edition,