JFCC
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May 2020
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Tateward Auction today, by JFCC on Mar 31, 2022 9:28:05 GMT 1, Here’s the Banksy prices, a well-run auction apart from the creaking door but very well managed despite the enormous catalogue!!! Some pieces seemed a little out of place and as a result a number of items were unsold. Overall prices seemed pretty good for the lower valued artists (I thought the much maligned Connor Bros stuff held up pretty well) but overall it wasn't so strong, but I’m sure those with a better width of artists knowledge can comment! On Banksy the non COA time items and album covers hit the most incredible numbers. Think Tank working proof hammered at £10k or £13.4k all done…wow!! However this is not the place to sell prints with a number passing and poor values being achieved. Not a great day!! But hey good luck to all of those who bought!!! GDP Balloon Tee Shirt Hammer £8.5k Passed WSM Unsigned Hammer £16k £21.4k All done GDP Cushions Hammer £13k Passed Happy Chopper Unsigned Hammer £24k £32.2k All done Gangsta Rat Unsigned Hammer £25k £33.5k All done Soup Can Unsigned Hammer £25k Passed Toxic Mary Unsigned Hammer £22k Passed Pulp Fiction Unsigned Hammer £44k £59k All done Monkey Queen signed Hammer £38k Passed Pulp Fiction signed Hammer £100k £134k All done GWB Unsigned Hammer £125k £167.5k All done Is "all done" with VAT?
Here’s the Banksy prices, a well-run auction apart from the creaking door but very well managed despite the enormous catalogue!!! Some pieces seemed a little out of place and as a result a number of items were unsold. Overall prices seemed pretty good for the lower valued artists (I thought the much maligned Connor Bros stuff held up pretty well) but overall it wasn't so strong, but I’m sure those with a better width of artists knowledge can comment! On Banksy the non COA time items and album covers hit the most incredible numbers. Think Tank working proof hammered at £10k or £13.4k all done…wow!! However this is not the place to sell prints with a number passing and poor values being achieved. Not a great day!! But hey good luck to all of those who bought!!! GDP Balloon Tee Shirt Hammer £8.5k Passed WSM Unsigned Hammer £16k £21.4k All done GDP Cushions Hammer £13k Passed Happy Chopper Unsigned Hammer £24k £32.2k All done Gangsta Rat Unsigned Hammer £25k £33.5k All done Soup Can Unsigned Hammer £25k Passed Toxic Mary Unsigned Hammer £22k Passed Pulp Fiction Unsigned Hammer £44k £59k All done Monkey Queen signed Hammer £38k Passed Pulp Fiction signed Hammer £100k £134k All done GWB Unsigned Hammer £125k £167.5k All done Is "all done" with VAT? Yes "all done" is done with VAT on the buyers premium as that is what a UK buyer would pay. Elsewhere in nearly all other countries there is an import duty equivalent (sometimes higher) so it is sensible include VAT recognise/approximate the buyer full cost. |
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cardiff
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January 2009
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Tateward Auction today, by cardiff on Mar 31, 2022 15:38:28 GMT 1, What happened with the police investigation and TW?
What happened with the police investigation and TW? Is there something unsavory still going on there? I bought a small piece yesterday...should I have any concern wiring the $? |
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orchid
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May 2018
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Tateward Auction today, by orchid on Mar 31, 2022 15:50:00 GMT 1, What happened with the police investigation and TW? Is there something unsavory still going on there? I bought a small piece yesterday...should I have any concern wiring the $?
Anything that can easily be replicated and put through a printer eg banksy posters, stik posters, ed Ruscha posters, etc I would stay away as they're fake mostly. Ditto obvious fakes that Harry and co put in like haring subway drawings, Warhol unsigned and unnumbered Prints which are popping up elsewhere too from known dodgy galleries. These threads are top of Google 'tate ward fakes', so check others out and do due diligence because they don't, hence why they've stopped bothering to defend or even promote here, the next tactical move.
What happened with the police investigation and TW? Is there something unsavory still going on there? I bought a small piece yesterday...should I have any concern wiring the $? Anything that can easily be replicated and put through a printer eg banksy posters, stik posters, ed Ruscha posters, etc I would stay away as they're fake mostly. Ditto obvious fakes that Harry and co put in like haring subway drawings, Warhol unsigned and unnumbered Prints which are popping up elsewhere too from known dodgy galleries. These threads are top of Google 'tate ward fakes', so check others out and do due diligence because they don't, hence why they've stopped bothering to defend or even promote here, the next tactical move. |
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cardiff
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January 2009
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Tateward Auction today, by cardiff on Mar 31, 2022 16:03:03 GMT 1, Is there something unsavory still going on there? I bought a small piece yesterday...should I have any concern wiring the $? Anything that can easily be replicated and put through a printer eg banksy posters, stik posters, ed Ruscha posters, etc I would stay away as they're fake mostly. Ditto obvious fakes that Harry and co put in like haring subway drawings, Warhol unsigned and unnumbered Prints which are popping up elsewhere too from known dodgy galleries. These threads are top of Google 'tate ward fakes', so check others out and do due diligence because they don't, hence why they've stopped bothering to defend or even promote here, the next tactical move.
Is there something unsavory still going on there? I bought a small piece yesterday...should I have any concern wiring the $? Anything that can easily be replicated and put through a printer eg banksy posters, stik posters, ed Ruscha posters, etc I would stay away as they're fake mostly. Ditto obvious fakes that Harry and co put in like haring subway drawings, Warhol unsigned and unnumbered Prints which are popping up elsewhere too from known dodgy galleries. These threads are top of Google 'tate ward fakes', so check others out and do due diligence because they don't, hence why they've stopped bothering to defend or even promote here, the next tactical move. Thanks...appreciate the info. |
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wanchope
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February 2020
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Tateward Auction today, by wanchope on Mar 31, 2022 16:40:45 GMT 1, Having said that I had 13 lots with them, nothing dodgy at all. In fact only 5 lots had any bids and only 1 bid per those 5. Then It all happened on the night and all 13 sold. Just good old fashioned auctioning !
Having said that I had 13 lots with them, nothing dodgy at all. In fact only 5 lots had any bids and only 1 bid per those 5. Then It all happened on the night and all 13 sold. Just good old fashioned auctioning !
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Dive Jedi
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October 2015
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Tateward Auction today, by Dive Jedi on Mar 31, 2022 17:44:48 GMT 1, Pejac prices were very good ! Wound - regular hammered at GBP 8500 Meadow at GBP 8000 Heavy Seas did GBP 3500 Do those prices include the 25% fees?
Pejac prices were very good ! Wound - regular hammered at GBP 8500 Meadow at GBP 8000 Heavy Seas did GBP 3500 Do those prices include the 25% fees? No |
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Dive Jedi
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October 2015
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Tateward Auction today, by Dive Jedi on Mar 31, 2022 17:45:45 GMT 1, Pejac prices were very good ! Wound - regular hammered at GBP 8500 Meadow at GBP 8000 Heavy Seas did GBP 3500 And wound went for more than Meadow??? a little disappointed in HS’s hammer…my fav Pejac…
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Pejac prices were very good ! Wound - regular hammered at GBP 8500 Meadow at GBP 8000 Heavy Seas did GBP 3500 And wound went for more than Meadow??? a little disappointed in HS’s hammer…my fav Pejac… Yes |
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dotdot
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December 2006
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Tateward Auction today, by dotdot on Mar 31, 2022 18:19:54 GMT 1, Having said that I had 13 lots with them, nothing dodgy at all. In fact only 5 lots had any bids and only 1 bid per those 5. Then It all happened on the night and all 13 sold. Just good old fashioned auctioning !
good for you - that looks like a good advert - what were the fees like ?
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Having said that I had 13 lots with them, nothing dodgy at all. In fact only 5 lots had any bids and only 1 bid per those 5. Then It all happened on the night and all 13 sold. Just good old fashioned auctioning ! good for you - that looks like a good advert - what were the fees like ? .. |
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wanchope
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February 2020
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Tateward Auction today, by wanchope on Mar 31, 2022 18:34:32 GMT 1, Having said that I had 13 lots with them, nothing dodgy at all. In fact only 5 lots had any bids and only 1 bid per those 5. Then It all happened on the night and all 13 sold. Just good old fashioned auctioning ! good for you - that looks like a good advert - what were the fees like ? ..
only my third ever auction and I don’t know if it’s particularly competitive but 15%. Personally from collection to payment it has been smooth each time. I get some shady goings on has happened in the past, but from what I hear the whole art world is a bit shady 🤷🏻♂️
Having said that I had 13 lots with them, nothing dodgy at all. In fact only 5 lots had any bids and only 1 bid per those 5. Then It all happened on the night and all 13 sold. Just good old fashioned auctioning ! good for you - that looks like a good advert - what were the fees like ? .. only my third ever auction and I don’t know if it’s particularly competitive but 15%. Personally from collection to payment it has been smooth each time. I get some shady goings on has happened in the past, but from what I hear the whole art world is a bit shady 🤷🏻♂️ |
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wanchope
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February 2020
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Tateward Auction today, by wanchope on Mar 31, 2022 18:37:24 GMT 1, Having said all that I don’t know how auction houses can charge 10-15% to a seller and 25 to the buyer. Selling a house is 1-1.5% in the UK and the process is a hell of a lot harder!!!!
Having said all that I don’t know how auction houses can charge 10-15% to a seller and 25 to the buyer. Selling a house is 1-1.5% in the UK and the process is a hell of a lot harder!!!!
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orchid
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May 2018
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Tateward Auction today, by orchid on Mar 31, 2022 19:19:40 GMT 1, Having said all that I don’t know how auction houses can charge 10-15% to a seller and 25 to the buyer. Selling a house is 1-1.5% in the UK and the process is a hell of a lot harder!!!!
You shouldn't be paying above 10% at this sort of level, all in.
Having said all that I don’t know how auction houses can charge 10-15% to a seller and 25 to the buyer. Selling a house is 1-1.5% in the UK and the process is a hell of a lot harder!!!! You shouldn't be paying above 10% at this sort of level, all in. |
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dotdot
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December 2006
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Tateward Auction today, by dotdot on Mar 31, 2022 19:25:59 GMT 1, Having said all that I don’t know how auction houses can charge 10-15% to a seller and 25 to the buyer. Selling a house is 1-1.5% in the UK and the process is a hell of a lot harder!!!!
yeah but pandas rock any conor brothers image Girl With Balloon  ...is worth the price of a house... in many parts.
Having said all that I don’t know how auction houses can charge 10-15% to a seller and 25 to the buyer. Selling a house is 1-1.5% in the UK and the process is a hell of a lot harder!!!! yeah but pandas rock any conor brothers image Girl With Balloon ...is worth the price of a house... in many parts. |
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wanchope
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February 2020
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Tateward Auction today, by wanchope on Mar 31, 2022 19:26:38 GMT 1, Yep heard lots of people pay less or more than me, but good results for me which offsets my feelings over percentage. Happy days
Yep heard lots of people pay less or more than me, but good results for me which offsets my feelings over percentage. Happy days
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wanchope
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February 2020
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Tateward Auction today, by wanchope on Mar 31, 2022 19:27:50 GMT 1, Having said all that I don’t know how auction houses can charge 10-15% to a seller and 25 to the buyer. Selling a house is 1-1.5% in the UK and the process is a hell of a lot harder!!!! yeah but pandas rock any conor brothers image Girl With Balloon ...is worth the price of a house... in many parts.
I know and they will get 25-30% commission - I’m in the wrong business 🤣🤣
Having said all that I don’t know how auction houses can charge 10-15% to a seller and 25 to the buyer. Selling a house is 1-1.5% in the UK and the process is a hell of a lot harder!!!! yeah but pandas rock any conor brothers image Girl With Balloon ...is worth the price of a house... in many parts. I know and they will get 25-30% commission - I’m in the wrong business 🤣🤣 |
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Tateward Auction today, by Fred West Country Prince on Mar 31, 2022 21:36:34 GMT 1, What happened with the police investigation and TW? Is there something unsavory still going on there? I bought a small piece yesterday...should I have any concern wiring the $?
hopefully it wasn't one of the 'signed' Warhol dollar bills 😬
What happened with the police investigation and TW? Is there something unsavory still going on there? I bought a small piece yesterday...should I have any concern wiring the $? hopefully it wasn't one of the 'signed' Warhol dollar bills 😬 |
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cardiff
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January 2009
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Tateward Auction today, by cardiff on Mar 31, 2022 22:13:28 GMT 1, Is there something unsavory still going on there? I bought a small piece yesterday...should I have any concern wiring the $? hopefully it wasn't one of the 'signed' Warhol dollar bills 😬
Is there something unsavory still going on there? I bought a small piece yesterday...should I have any concern wiring the $? hopefully it wasn't one of the 'signed' Warhol dollar bills 😬 Lucas Price portrait...think I'm safe. |
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coach
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June 2007
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Tateward Auction today, by coach on Mar 31, 2022 22:21:11 GMT 1, hopefully it wasn't one of the 'signed' Warhol dollar bills 😬 Lucas Price portrait...think I'm safe.
The oil painting? If so, great buy. Beautiful painting.
hopefully it wasn't one of the 'signed' Warhol dollar bills 😬 Lucas Price portrait...think I'm safe. The oil painting? If so, great buy. Beautiful painting. |
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tradeya2
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January 2022
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Tateward Auction today, by tradeya2 on Mar 31, 2022 23:38:32 GMT 1, Can someone explain Aboudia's appeal please? They show with who? I can't explain the appeal but I can say visiting a booth showing his works at Context Miami was one of the more laughable high pressure sales pitches I had ever received. He is the next Basquiat you know?
Can someone explain Aboudia's appeal please? They show with who? I can't explain the appeal but I can say visiting a booth showing his works at Context Miami was one of the more laughable high pressure sales pitches I had ever received. He is the next Basquiat you know? Context Miami the hedge fund conference? |
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tradeya2
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January 2022
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Tateward Auction today, by tradeya2 on Mar 31, 2022 23:40:18 GMT 1, I bought the Faile print 297a
I bought the Faile print 297a
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cardiff
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January 2009
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Tateward Auction today, by cardiff on Mar 31, 2022 23:55:09 GMT 1, I bought the Faile print 297a
I bought the Faile print 297a Great buy...love that version of Butterfly Girl...classic Faile. The only reason I didn't go after it was the condition report. Hopefully, you can get it flattened easily. |
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g41
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September 2021
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Tateward Auction today, by g41 on Apr 1, 2022 0:59:14 GMT 1, Is there something unsavory still going on there? I bought a small piece yesterday...should I have any concern wiring the $? hopefully it wasn't one of the 'signed' Warhol dollar bills 😬
Would buy a $ signed by Warhol in a heartbeat if it was possible to prove it was genuine.
Is there something unsavory still going on there? I bought a small piece yesterday...should I have any concern wiring the $? hopefully it wasn't one of the 'signed' Warhol dollar bills 😬 Would buy a $ signed by Warhol in a heartbeat if it was possible to prove it was genuine. |
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cardiff
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January 2009
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Tateward Auction today, by cardiff on Apr 1, 2022 1:54:06 GMT 1, Lucas Price portrait...think I'm safe. The oil painting? If so, great buy. Beautiful painting.
Hope all is great with you!
Lucas Price portrait...think I'm safe. The oil painting? If so, great buy. Beautiful painting. Yes...thanks coach Hope all is great with you! |
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coach
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June 2007
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Tateward Auction today, by coach on Apr 1, 2022 9:24:51 GMT 1, The oil painting? If so, great buy. Beautiful painting. Yes...thanks coach Hope all is great with you!
Congratulations! It’s beautiful.
I’m all good thanks my friend. Trust you are too.
The oil painting? If so, great buy. Beautiful painting. Yes...thanks coach Hope all is great with you! Congratulations! It’s beautiful. I’m all good thanks my friend. Trust you are too. |
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artlike
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November 2021
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Tateward Auction today, by artlike on Apr 1, 2022 12:19:35 GMT 1, Pejac prices were very good ! Wound - regular hammered at GBP 8500 Meadow at GBP 8000 Heavy Seas did GBP 3500
Strong results for hard to find brilliant prints. Heavy Sea result is strange. I wonder if it was damaged.
Pejac prices were very good ! Wound - regular hammered at GBP 8500 Meadow at GBP 8000 Heavy Seas did GBP 3500 Strong results for hard to find brilliant prints. Heavy Sea result is strange. I wonder if it was damaged. |
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Dive Jedi
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October 2015
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Tateward Auction today, by Dive Jedi on Apr 1, 2022 13:17:45 GMT 1, Pejac prices were very good ! Wound - regular hammered at GBP 8500 Meadow at GBP 8000 Heavy Seas did GBP 3500 Strong results for hard to find brilliant prints. Heavy Sea result is strange. I wonder if it was damaged.
The Meadow and HS are framed - that might explain the difference.
Condition Report
In very good condition
No visible knocks, tears or creases to the sheet
Framed to a high standard in a white frame using Premium Anti-Reflective Artglass
This work has not been examined out of the frame.
In general Meadow is considered worth more then Wound, I think.
Pejac prices were very good ! Wound - regular hammered at GBP 8500 Meadow at GBP 8000 Heavy Seas did GBP 3500 Strong results for hard to find brilliant prints. Heavy Sea result is strange. I wonder if it was damaged. The Wound was stored flat and never framed. So in mint condition. The Meadow and HS are framed - that might explain the difference. Condition ReportIn very good condition No visible knocks, tears or creases to the sheet Framed to a high standard in a white frame using Premium Anti-Reflective Artglass This work has not been examined out of the frame. In general Meadow is considered worth more then Wound, I think. |
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Tateward Auction today, by zacksz123123 on Apr 1, 2022 17:13:31 GMT 1, Christ, who would put an Aboudia in Tat Ward?!!! Talk about the wrong crowd. Great chance for someone to pick up a *relative* bargain I would think
Final price?
Christ, who would put an Aboudia in Tat Ward?!!! Talk about the wrong crowd. Great chance for someone to pick up a *relative* bargain I would think Final price? |
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Tateward Auction today, by hubble bubble on Apr 1, 2022 17:45:52 GMT 1, Christ, who would put an Aboudia in Tat Ward?!!! Talk about the wrong crowd. Great chance for someone to pick up a *relative* bargain I would think Final price?
I think it hammered at £65k so around £88k all in
Christ, who would put an Aboudia in Tat Ward?!!! Talk about the wrong crowd. Great chance for someone to pick up a *relative* bargain I would think Final price? I think it hammered at £65k so around £88k all in |
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Tateward Auction today, by JAlternatión on Apr 1, 2022 21:48:18 GMT 1, I think it hammered at £65k so around £88k all in
Did anyone see what the Basquiat and Hambleton went for?
I think it hammered at £65k so around £88k all in I think it was 60k hammer, 80 all in but could be wrong. As others have said, easy to drop into a big auction house and make 40k on that even taking fees into account. Did anyone see what the Basquiat and Hambleton went for? |
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wanchope
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February 2020
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Tateward Auction today, by wanchope on Apr 2, 2022 8:04:53 GMT 1, Pretty sure the original hambleton got its lowest estimate and hammered at £110,000.
Pretty sure the original hambleton got its lowest estimate and hammered at £110,000.
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Tateward Auction today, by elvistopete on Apr 8, 2022 11:27:14 GMT 1, Tateward have done a great job and any new enterprise will have a few bumps in the road, anything else is sour grapes.
They have given collectors a great platform to sell, sometimes vast collections of work that have been accumulated over many years. With very little hassle they can get both great returns or money back, which in this saturated art market is equally amazing.
The bigger picture is they help keep art market moving, they pay ARR to artist, they employ staff, contractors, pay taxes etc etc. Then we can go buy more art! In my humble opinion this is only a good thing. 
I applaud them for it and am very thankful and wish them every success.
Tateward have done a great job and any new enterprise will have a few bumps in the road, anything else is sour grapes. They have given collectors a great platform to sell, sometimes vast collections of work that have been accumulated over many years. With very little hassle they can get both great returns or money back, which in this saturated art market is equally amazing. The bigger picture is they help keep art market moving, they pay ARR to artist, they employ staff, contractors, pay taxes etc etc. Then we can go buy more art! In my humble opinion this is only a good thing. I applaud them for it and am very thankful and wish them every success. |
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...is worth the price of a house... in many parts.
