[rbt]

Excited to purchase this nice poster 😜

[Display_arts]

Mar 27, 2024 16:58:45 GMT 1 ignition0 said:

Just took a look at the Rokkaku timed edition. Sold just over 3500 editions for similar price point. I guess gives an indication of likely sales for Ruscha, if not more?

I say 1750-2250 each of the prints. you heard it here first

Rokkaku was signed 

[Lroy]

Are timed editions good for collectors ? I wonder...
I mean, are big editions of 2000/4000 are rare ?

Per example, one that I bought ( and I am happy with ) : Limited Paul Insect ' Peace one, 269 editions, signed and numbered still on sale for 562 euros on Black Gallery...

blacklinegallery.com/products/peace

[Christian Avant Arte]

Mar 27, 2024 18:15:19 GMT 1 Lroy said:

Mar 27, 2024 16:58:45 GMT 1 ignition0 said:

Just took a look at the Rokkaku timed edition. Sold just over 3500 editions for similar price point. I guess gives an indication of likely sales for Ruscha, if not more?

Rokkaku was signed.

Rokkaku was stamped! 

[brule]

Mar 27, 2024 18:28:26 GMT 1 Lroy said:

Are timed editions good for collectors ? I wonder...
I mean, are big editions of 2000/4000 are rare ?

Per example, one that I bought ( and I am happy with ) : Limited Paul Insect ' Peace one, 269 editions, signed and numbered still on sale for 562 euros on Black Gallery...

blacklinegallery.com/products/peace

Virtues are proof that timed editions can do very well for collectors but nearly every other timed edition is evidence that they usually don’t. 

[ignition0]

ROKKAKU
Finishing
Individually dated, numbered and stamped with the artist’s signature

Don’t think that’s the same as ‘signed’.

[Lroy]

Mar 27, 2024 18:41:59 GMT 1 ignition0 said:

ROKKAKU
Finishing
Individually dated, numbered and stamped with the artist’s signature

Don’t think that’s the same as ‘signed’.

Yes, I did not read very well and slowly. Sorry

[ubl]

Mar 27, 2024 18:28:26 GMT 1 Lroy said:

Are timed editions good for collectors ? I wonder...
I mean, are big editions of 2000/4000 are rare ?

Per example, one that I bought ( and I am happy with ) : Limited Paul Insect ' Peace one, 269 editions, signed and numbered still on sale for 562 euros on Black Gallery...

blacklinegallery.com/products/peace

Yeah, I feel like they should at least be transparent about it, and show live how many have been sold.

In theory an edition of 3000 should be cheaper then an edition of 50.  At some point they just become glorified posters.  I'm sure you get galleries buying them in the dozens and putting them on sale for a couple quid more.

[nobokov]

Mar 27, 2024 19:04:52 GMT 1 ubl said:

Mar 27, 2024 18:28:26 GMT 1 Lroy said:

Are timed editions good for collectors ? I wonder...
I mean, are big editions of 2000/4000 are rare ?

Per example, one that I bought ( and I am happy with ) : Limited Paul Insect ' Peace one, 269 editions, signed and numbered still on sale for 562 euros on Black Gallery...

blacklinegallery.com/products/peace

Yeah, I feel like they should at least be transparent about it, and show live how many have been sold.

In theory an edition of 3000 should be cheaper then an edition of 50.  At some point they just become glorified posters.  I'm sure you get galleries buying them in the dozens and putting them on sale for a couple quid more.

They're trying to make money. Why would they show the numbers live?

Though, it would be interesting if a place showed the numbers live for timed editions and the price point went down as the quantity increased.

[nobokov]

Mar 27, 2024 16:51:03 GMT 1 u%hdjfka c said:

David Hockney next please

shop.tate.org.uk/david-hockney-a-bigger-splash-silk-scarf/28471.html?cgid=New

[SFBM]

Mar 27, 2024 19:04:52 GMT 1 ubl said:

Mar 27, 2024 18:28:26 GMT 1 Lroy said:

Are timed editions good for collectors ? I wonder...
I mean, are big editions of 2000/4000 are rare ?

Per example, one that I bought ( and I am happy with ) : Limited Paul Insect ' Peace one, 269 editions, signed and numbered still on sale for 562 euros on Black Gallery...

blacklinegallery.com/products/peace

Yeah, I feel like they should at least be transparent about it, and show live how many have been sold.

In theory an edition of 3000 should be cheaper than an edition of 50.  At some point they just become glorified posters.  I'm sure you get galleries buying them in the dozens and putting them on sale for a couple quid more.

For one timed release AA did give an update on numbers and were accused of doing it to try and increase sales so I think there are arguments both ways.

[ubl]

Mar 27, 2024 19:30:05 GMT 1 nobokov said:

Mar 27, 2024 19:04:52 GMT 1 ubl said:

Yeah, I feel like they should at least be transparent about it, and show live how many have been sold.

In theory an edition of 3000 should be cheaper then an edition of 50.  At some point they just become glorified posters.  I'm sure you get galleries buying them in the dozens and putting them on sale for a couple quid more.

They're trying to make money. Why would they show the numbers live?

Though, it would be interesting if a place showed the numbers live for timed editions and the price point went down as the quantity increased.

Because it's good and fair business practice towards your clients?  Second point sounds like a fun expirement, everyone can get their hands on a print at a fair price.  But the value of the release would be the same of a limited edition.

[quicksnap]

Admittedly, I stayed out of the Condo release to save funds for this, assuming it was going to be quite pricey and signed (at least via a label). Still wish it could be signed, but not mad at it being more affordable and attainable. There's always a trade off and I'll enjoy being able to put this on my wall. It'll still have a COA (I assume) and be well documented as an approved edition.

[cemltz]

Maybe it’s just me, but making a print of an original that is called “Actual Size”…due to one of the core elements being an item drawn “actual size”…and literally labeled as “actual size” in the painting…except the print is less than 1/4 the actual size…

It’s just a poster at that point. But priced appropriately.

[Pafori]

Mar 28, 2024 3:33:44 GMT 1 cemltz said:

Maybe it’s just me, but making a print of an original that is called “Actual Size”…due to one of the core elements being an item drawn “actual size”…and literally labeled as “actual size” in the painting…except the print is less than 1/4 the actual size…

It’s just a poster at that point. But priced appropriately.

Great point ... and more irony

[The Italian One]

it is NOT a poster,

you like it you buy it, if not move on.

to me it is a no brainer knowing the quality and effort AA put on those release

I just don't understand PRESALE on a timed ed..

[Beetle Bum]

I think it is a great chance to own something from a fantastic artist.

[Christian Avant Arte]

As promised here is some more insight into the work itself:

avantarte.com/insights/articles/ed-ruscha-actual-size-explained

[sevrin]

Mar 28, 2024 9:46:49 GMT 1 Christian Avant Arte said:

As promised here is some more insight into the work itself:

avantarte.com/insights/articles/ed-ruscha-actual-size-explained

Many thanks Christian, much appreciated!

[Acme Thunderer]

Stunning…

[Someone Like You]

Mar 28, 2024 9:46:49 GMT 1 Christian Avant Arte said:

As promised here is some more insight into the work itself:

avantarte.com/insights/articles/ed-ruscha-actual-size-explained

Well done👏🏻👏🏻

[Atom Gallery]

Thats a good article from AA, loved the fact that in the early Mercury space missions the one astronaut was referred to as 'Spam in a can'. Also tbh it hadn't clicked that he had painted the can actual size, although with the print it will be smaller, but who wants a 6' high print? or can afford to frame it. I find my reaction interesting to timed releases, one part of me thinks great I can definitely get one if I want and another part thinks but I dont know how special it will be. If you love the print and want to hang it and enjoy it its great, if you are looking for an investment that will look nice on the wall its a bit of a gamble, I suppose for most of us its a bit of both.

[Black Wolf]

I'm in, looks cool!

[jamo]

Looks brilliant. Great quality as with all AA releases and a great price. I’m in.

[Georgie Poppit]

If forum members were interested in the back story of this (historic) piece it’s well documented. Not sure why you’d need to wait for a spoon fed explanation. If people on here can be bothered there are some amazing articles online not to mention excellent Ruscha books.

[radarrat]

But f**k, try not to be all IN otherwise it will be too big an edition!!!

[Newar]

Nice just to understand ?
Medium
UV pigment print with yellow silkscreen details and a matte varnish seal, printed on 410gsm Somerset Tub Sized Radiant White paper.

So it's a giclee print with 1 color (yellow) silkscreen with a varnish seal (which is great)?

[howies]

If thats how you want to describe it, you just missed the varnish seal part

[howies]

Iconic Image by Blue Chip Artist at great Price by a Team who have always delivered quality, Its a no brainer TBH

Edition Guess 5789 

[harrydgc]

Iconic image, good image size, great price + proceeds going to a good cause also, well done AA.