Banksy originals market - How far can it go?

[pollz66]

Strange result: the Trolley Hunters canvas which auctioned at Sothebys NYC in November last year was a large, unique piece and sold for just under £5million. 

The Love Is In The Air canvas at the same auction was an edition of 15, half the size of Trolleys and sold for just under £6million.

So less is more, quite literally.

Banksyvalue hasn't updated its Banksy "originals" page for ages which is a shame as 2021 was a huge growth year for canvases and it would be interesting to see where we were this time last year.

While print values were always going to correct because of their large edition sizes, the value going forward for Banksy originals is potentially limitless.

[Pipes]

LIITA is iconic as is GWB.

They will always fetch a premium as prints or originals.

[Daniel Silk]

Love is in the Air is a much more iconic Banksy image than trolley hunters.

[Lunch Special]

Damn does anyone know the term

To each his own.

What one person considers iconic another might not. True some images are more sought after than others but to me trolleys is a huge part of banksy’s commentary on socio-poitico-economic disparities.

But that’s just me. And yes I have trolleys and a version of liita on the we love you box set. I think it’s called that lol.

I much prefer the trolleys image.

[18921892]

Just the beginning for edition originals, Heavy Weaponry, Lenin on Skates, Precision Bombing, Good Meaning Bad. All very cheap compared to prints like CYW, Kates, Nola ap/s. These are very undervalued.

[Coach]

Jan 6, 2022 16:05:31 GMT 1 Daniel Silk said:

Love is in the Air is a much more iconic Banksy image than trolley hunters.

Without a doubt.

[robo]

Love both of these and agree Trolleys has a great message; but you can’t beat the iconic nature of Flower Thrower - that’s reflected in the value of even the LIITA print being approx 8x Trolleys.

[Deleted]

Jan 6, 2022 22:11:41 GMT 1 robo said:

Love both of these and agree Trolleys has a great message; but you can’t beat the iconic nature of Flower Thrower - that’s reflected in the value of even the LIITA print being approx 8x Trolleys.

Ps - you have a signed liita which you’ve been shilling since I can remember 

[Deleted]

Jan 6, 2022 22:11:41 GMT 1 robo said:

Love both of these and agree Trolleys has a great message; but you can’t beat the iconic nature of Flower Thrower - that’s reflected in the value of even the LIITA print being approx 8x Trolleys.

Unsigned liita is 60k tops. Where can I find a Trolleys for 7.5k?


signed liita 150/160k. Where can I find a signed trolleys for 20k



Your persistent shilling of your print is dull. It’s funny to watch over the years though.  

[Lazarus II]

Mibbe a LIITA is worth 8 actual trollies? This then gets you into the old Tesco v Sainsbury v Lidl debate, it never ends.

[Lunch Special]

Jan 6, 2022 17:59:09 GMT 1 Coach said:

Jan 6, 2022 16:05:31 GMT 1 Daniel Silk said:

Love is in the Air is a much more iconic Banksy image than trolley hunters.

Without a doubt.

Ok again to each his own what I have on my walks is not dictated by this forum or others preferences.

Are we pushing the liita for a specific reason? Is project champion back on the forum?

But where did I say trolleys was more iconic than liita? Show me.

[Lunch Special]

Jan 7, 2022 11:40:08 GMT 1 @pigeon1 said:

Jan 6, 2022 22:11:41 GMT 1 robo said:

Love both of these and agree Trolleys has a great message; but you can’t beat the iconic nature of Flower Thrower - that’s reflected in the value of even the LIITA print being approx 8x Trolleys.

Unsigned liita is 60k tops. Where can I find a Trolleys for 7.5k?


signed liita 150/160k. Where can I find a signed trolleys for 20k



Your persistent shilling of your print is dull. It’s funny to watch over the years though.  

Project champion reveals itself. Bring down one to elevate the other. Inflate prices and deflate others by bad mouthing them.

LIITA is the beginners for Banksy like GWB it’s all some people know.

[Charlie Bronson]

Jan 6, 2022 16:15:26 GMT 1 Lunch Special said:

Damn does anyone know the term

To each his own.

What one person considers iconic another might not. True some images are more sought after than others but to me trolleys is a huge part of banksy’s commentary on socio-poitico-economic disparities.

But that’s just me. And yes I have trolleys and a version of liita on the we love you box set. I think it’s called that lol.

I much prefer the trolleys image.

Of course it’s always a case of “to each his own”, but the fact is there are certain images that are considered the desirable ones/iconic works, such as LIITA and GWB. There’s simply no denying that, despite a person’s personal taste/preference. Despite being a great piece and Colored Trolleys being one of my personal favorites, Trolley Hunters isn’t an iconic B image by any means.

[Coach]

Jan 7, 2022 17:21:36 GMT 1 Lunch Special said:

Jan 6, 2022 17:59:09 GMT 1 Coach said:

Without a doubt.

Ok again to each his own what I have on my walks is not dictated by this forum or others preferences.

Are we pushing the liita for a specific reason? Is project champion back on the forum?

But where did I say trolleys was more iconic than liita? Show me.

I’m sorry, project what? I have no idea what you are talking about.
Silky made a comment that I agreed with.
If you’re suggesting some nefarious motive, you are wrong. I own neither. Nor do I have any motivation for manipulating the price of either as I could get nowhere near affording either, even if the value of one plummeted!
I think price manipulation is abhorrent and have called it out in the past.
I think there a some Banksy prints that are iconic. I think LIITA is undoubtedly one of them. That’s all. Of course personal taste is a completely different matter. I don’t much like Girl With Red Balloon. It’s far too twee for my tastes.

[Icesay]

Jan 7, 2022 18:01:17 GMT 1 Coach said:

Jan 7, 2022 17:21:36 GMT 1 Lunch Special said:

Ok again to each his own what I have on my walks is not dictated by this forum or others preferences.

Are we pushing the liita for a specific reason? Is project champion back on the forum?

But where did I say trolleys was more iconic than liita? Show me.

I’m sorry, project what? I have no idea what you are talking about.
Silky made a comment that I agreed with.
If you’re suggesting some nefarious motive, you are wrong. I own neither. Nor do I have any motivation for manipulating the price of either as I could get nowhere near affording either, even if the value of one plummeted!
I think price manipulation is abhorrent and have called it out in the past.
I think there a some Banksy prints that are iconic. I think LIITA is undoubtedly one of them. That’s all. Of course personal taste is a completely different matter. I don’t much like Girl With Red Balloon. It’s far too twee for my tastes.

Twee? I'd say it's terrible, like something you'd put in the shredder!

[dotdot]

fwiw , gwb has changed a few people's lives.

.. alas i passed on a diptych when it was offered to me - one of those times when £ was non existent.

still we're alive , right ? for me / us that is all that matters... now get jon hopkins on .. please

he is alive .. in so many ways. (some would say touching the sky..)

[Minecrafter]

Did the alleged fraud and dating of the piece that was auctioned at Sotheby's ever get proven wrong?
If not I can only imagine his value will continue to go down.

For me it looks like there's a rift between Banksy and Sotheby's at the moment.

Really disappointed by latest results, he should do a new show to raise the market.

[Happy Shopper]

Jan 7, 2022 18:59:41 GMT 1 Minecrafter said:

Did the alleged fraud and dating of the piece that was auctioned at Sotheby's ever get proven wrong?

Not this nonsense again! 

It was a practical joke, and explained to the buyer before they paid. Not fraud in any way.

[dotdot]

Jan 7, 2022 18:59:41 GMT 1 Minecrafter said:

Did the alleged fraud and dating of the piece that was auctioned at Sotheby's ever get proven wrong?
If not I can only imagine his value will continue to go down.

For me it looks like there's a rift between Banksy and Sotheby's at the moment.

Really disappointed by latest results, he should do a new show to raise the market.

Perhaps he should.

afaik he does not.

In the future i think he will continue to not ... do shows.

Why do "show" - when you can do so many other things to keep people vaguely intrigued as to wtf is going on.

[Minecrafter]

Jan 7, 2022 19:07:00 GMT 1 dotdot said:

Jan 7, 2022 18:59:41 GMT 1 Minecrafter said:

Did the alleged fraud and dating of the piece that was auctioned at Sotheby's ever get proven wrong?
If not I can only imagine his value will continue to go down.

For me it looks like there's a rift between Banksy and Sotheby's at the moment.

Really disappointed by latest results, he should do a new show to raise the market.

Perhaps he should.

afaik he does not.

In the future i think he will continue to not ... do shows.

Why do "show" - when you can do so many other things to keep people vaguely intrigued as to wtf is going on.

I think the dating of the piece is very intriguing 😉
And maybe he hasn't got any idea for a show, it's been stale for many years now. The T-shirt thing was a shit show too.

[Minecrafter]

Jan 7, 2022 19:05:26 GMT 1 Happy Shopper said:

Jan 7, 2022 18:59:41 GMT 1 Minecrafter said:

Did the alleged fraud and dating of the piece that was auctioned at Sotheby's ever get proven wrong?

Not this nonsense again! 

It was a practical joke, and explained to the buyer before they paid. Not fraud in any way.

I'm not talking about the shredder.
afaik art newspaper asked Sotheby's and pest control questions that have never been answered after experts checked the piece for its dating.

[Minecrafter]

Jan 7, 2022 19:05:26 GMT 1 Happy Shopper said:

Jan 7, 2022 18:59:41 GMT 1 Minecrafter said:

Did the alleged fraud and dating of the piece that was auctioned at Sotheby's ever get proven wrong?

Not this nonsense again! 

It was a practical joke, and explained to the buyer before they paid. Not fraud in any way.

A practical joke is one thing , but explain how it made it past Sotheby's experts? Because if they knew about it they knowingly had bidders on a piece falsely dated.

Hence why his market will continue to drop and PC doesn't issue people with their COAs.

[Lunch Special]

Jan 7, 2022 17:51:06 GMT 1 Charlie Bronson said:

Jan 6, 2022 16:15:26 GMT 1 Lunch Special said:

Damn does anyone know the term

To each his own.

What one person considers iconic another might not. True some images are more sought after than others but to me trolleys is a huge part of banksy’s commentary on socio-poitico-economic disparities.

But that’s just me. And yes I have trolleys and a version of liita on the we love you box set. I think it’s called that lol.

I much prefer the trolleys image.

Of course it’s always a case of “to each his own”, but the fact is there are certain images that are considered the desirable ones/iconic works, such as LIITA and GWB. There’s simply no denying that, despite a person’s personal taste/preference. Despite being a great piece and Colored Trolleys being one of my personal favorites, Trolley Hunters isn’t an iconic B image by any means.

Wow. What a hater. Not iconic at all do you even know the back story of trolleys? And for the record. To All members new and old don’t be swayed by the self entitled posts of members selling things and bullying there views on to your walls. Lol.

Never said trolleys was more iconic but i will say that the most iconic Banksy Image to ME is LAUGH NOW.

Now you can quote me all you want and stop typing what I never said.

So for the record coach and silk are swearing LIITA fila the most iconic image of Banksy of all time. Lmao

[Minecrafter]

Jan 7, 2022 19:09:50 GMT 1 goose said:

Trolleys still sold for £5Mil - let me just repeat that £5Mil pounds - amazing.

Who ever paid 5 million quid for trolleys will never ever see their investment grow. all of the images look stale and old, really they need to answer the questions and proof that alleged fraud regarding the dating of the piece wrong.

[Street Arted 2020]

Jan 7, 2022 19:29:44 GMT 1 Lunch Special said:

Jan 7, 2022 17:51:06 GMT 1 Charlie Bronson said:

Of course it’s always a case of “to each his own”, but the fact is there are certain images that are considered the desirable ones/iconic works, such as LIITA and GWB. There’s simply no denying that, despite a person’s personal taste/preference. Despite being a great piece and Colored Trolleys being one of my personal favorites, Trolley Hunters isn’t an iconic B image by any means.

Wow. What a hater. Not iconic at all do you even know the back story of trolleys? And for the record. To All members new and old don’t be swayed by the self entitled posts of members selling things and bullying there views on to your walls. Lol.

Never said trolleys was more iconic but i will say that the most iconic Banksy Image to ME is LAUGH NOW.

Now you can quote me all you want and stop typing what I never said.

So for the record coach and silk are swearing LIITA fila the most iconic image of Banksy of all time. Lmao

Please tell the trolleys back story…

[Minecrafter]

Jan 6, 2022 15:43:51 GMT 1 pollz66 said:

Strange result: the Trolley Hunters canvas which auctioned at Sothebys NYC in November last year was a large, unique piece and sold for just under £5million. 

The Love Is In The Air canvas at the same auction was an edition of 15, half the size of Trolleys and sold for just under £6million.

So less is more, quite literally.

Banksyvalue hasn't updated its Banksy "originals" page for ages which is a shame as 2021 was a huge growth year for canvases and it would be interesting to see where we were this time last year.

While print values were always going to correct because of their large edition sizes, the value going forward for Banksy originals is potentially limitless.

Regarding the Banksyvalue page :
Imagine how difficult it is to keep up with things while everyone is jumping the ship.

[Minecrafter]

Oh and we shouldn't forget in december 6 of 11 originals got passed in one auction. We have to see the whole picture.

[Coach]

Jan 7, 2022 19:29:44 GMT 1 Lunch Special said:

Jan 7, 2022 17:51:06 GMT 1 Charlie Bronson said:

Of course it’s always a case of “to each his own”, but the fact is there are certain images that are considered the desirable ones/iconic works, such as LIITA and GWB. There’s simply no denying that, despite a person’s personal taste/preference. Despite being a great piece and Colored Trolleys being one of my personal favorites, Trolley Hunters isn’t an iconic B image by any means.

Wow. What a hater. Not iconic at all do you even know the back story of trolleys? And for the record. To All members new and old don’t be swayed by the self entitled posts of members selling things and bullying there views on to your walls. Lol.

Never said trolleys was more iconic but i will say that the most iconic Banksy Image to ME is LAUGH NOW.

Now you can quote me all you want and stop typing what I never said.

So for the record coach and silk are swearing LIITA fila the most iconic image of Banksy of all time. Lmao

I did not say any such thing.

[Happy Shopper]

Jan 7, 2022 19:25:03 GMT 1 Minecrafter said:

Jan 7, 2022 19:05:26 GMT 1 Happy Shopper said:

Not this nonsense again! 

It was a practical joke, and explained to the buyer before they paid. Not fraud in any way.

A practical joke is one thing , but explain how it made it past Sotheby's experts? Because if they knew about it they knowingly had bidders on a piece falsely dated.

Hence why his market will continue to drop and PC doesn't issue people with their COAs.

Didn’t you used to have another user name?
Give it a rest.

[Charlie Bronson]

Jan 7, 2022 19:29:44 GMT 1 Lunch Special said:

Jan 7, 2022 17:51:06 GMT 1 Charlie Bronson said:

Of course it’s always a case of “to each his own”, but the fact is there are certain images that are considered the desirable ones/iconic works, such as LIITA and GWB. There’s simply no denying that, despite a person’s personal taste/preference. Despite being a great piece and Colored Trolleys being one of my personal favorites, Trolley Hunters isn’t an iconic B image by any means.

Wow. What a hater. Not iconic at all do you even know the back story of trolleys? And for the record. To All members new and old don’t be swayed by the self entitled posts of members selling things and bullying there views on to your walls. Lol.

Never said trolleys was more iconic but i will say that the most iconic Banksy Image to ME is LAUGH NOW.

Now you can quote me all you want and stop typing what I never said.

So for the record coach and silk are swearing LIITA fila the most iconic image of Banksy of all time. Lmao

You’re a special type of person. Take a deep breath. It’s not that serious.