[joecool91]

Anyone contacted them and received a response to get an update on shipping?

[mrizzle]

Jul 16, 2021 21:29:58 GMT 1 User Error said:

I must have pissed off someone at BW, because they are threatening me with lawyers. A simple response to my email from June 29 would have been sufficient, but I never heard from them. So last Monday I filed a dispute with my credit card that the item was not received. Today I wake up to this email...

Sounds like a rather hollow threat to me. I’m also fairly certain that, had they been in touch with their legal team, then they’d have counselled against sending such an email. The whole thing has been a bit of a shambles.

[joecool91]

Contacted them (first time) asking if they had an update but no response as of yet…

At what point should we be worried?

[forcedtojoin]

Apr 16, 2021 20:35:46 GMT 1 forcedtojoin said:

When do the "winners" get notified? The lotto closed today right?

It's well past credit card chargeback/disputes to be opened on these turds. 

[Xihuan Art]

Everyone got their Edgar COA yet? Some of my friends still didn’t get it. Are all the COA already sent out? Thank you.

Also saw some COA for sell by eBay. But all without real photos yet.

[greenart]

Jul 24, 2021 20:11:07 GMT 1 Xihuan Art said:

Everyone got their Edgar COA yet? Some of my friends still didn’t get it. Are all the COA already sent out? Thank you.

Also saw some COA for sell by eBay. But all without real photos yet.

I am in Canada and did not yet receive the COA - another thing to not be happy about.

[jopops]

Hi , I am French and I have receveid 3 weeks ago
Cordialy

[nickoct5]

I haven’t received mine yet and voiced my displeasure with Plans as it has been 4 months now

[joecool91]

Jul 25, 2021 16:07:31 GMT 1 nickoct5 said:

I haven’t received mine yet and voiced my displeasure with Plans as it has been 4 months now

What did he say out of interest?

[nickoct5]

He said just be patient “it’s only a certificate”. Told him most people only bought for hand finished certificate. Losing interest in him real quick

[gorkie]

Haven't received mine yet. Was told it is coming. There was an awful lot of these to send out safely and to do it right takes time I was told. Totally get it.

I do have one question about this AR release that confuses me.

Is my understanding correct that once you have the link for the AR there is basically nothing from keeping anybody from sharing the link with everybody in the world?

And if that is the case what's actually LIMITED about it?
No password or anything at all to identify the user when they sign in.
Seems a bit crazy to me.

So YES, the unique COA is basically the limited item of value.

[nickoct5]

Edgar stated to me 3x dates to when COA will ship that have all past now. It’s now 4 months. Unacceptable

[clueless]

Jul 25, 2021 20:44:28 GMT 1 gorkie said:

Haven't received mine yet. Was told it is coming. There was an awful lot of these to send out safely and to do it right takes time I was told. Totally get it.

I do have one question about this AR release that confuses me.

Is my understanding correct that once you have the link for the AR there is basically nothing from keeping anybody from sharing the link with everybody in the world?

And if that is the case what's actually LIMITED about it?
No password or anything at all to identify the user when they sign in.
Seems a bit crazy to me.

So YES, the unique COA is basically the limited item of value.

That's exactly correct. All customers were scammed by the company as they didn't protect the url or AR product in any way. We should have all just put in a pool of funds to purchase the AR and then shared the link publicly (like it was). 

There is absolutely nothing limited about it. It was a major cash grab and we were all suckers enough to purchase simply for the hopes of the hand finished (if you can call it that) COA. Which, most of us haven't heard a single thing about since purchasing and have yet to receive. 

[gorkie]

I mean for Christ's sake. Put a password requirement on it or something.

And then people were selling the AR on ebay. Like oh, look! You get the link that literally anybody can
just share with anybody anyway.

This whole thing actually was pretty absurd looking back on it all.

[Xihuan Art]

And I wrote BW team , and they didn’t reply the email since one week. And still didn’t get the COA. I’m confusing now.

[joecool91]

Still nothing here in the U.K…

[gmidd]

Still waiting in the US also

[Terry Fuckwitt]

Aug 4, 2021 13:03:36 GMT 1 eldukerman 212 said:

hello all-

after 4 months the COA finally came yesterday and there is a crease on the top left.  i messaged Edgar on IG to see if i could replace it and he simply said there are none left.  i reached out to BW numerous times since the process began so figured before i go down that alley again i'd reach out to see if anyone wants to purchase at cost.  it was $390 so would be looking for that plus PP fees and shipping.  this whole process with them was extremely frustrating...

please DM me if interested

Why not just get a refund?

[eldukerman 212]

Aug 4, 2021 13:05:24 GMT 1 Terry Fuckwitt said:

Aug 4, 2021 13:03:36 GMT 1 eldukerman 212 said:

hello all-

after 4 months the COA finally came yesterday and there is a crease on the top left.  i messaged Edgar on IG to see if i could replace it and he simply said there are none left.  i reached out to BW numerous times since the process began so figured before i go down that alley again i'd reach out to see if anyone wants to purchase at cost.  it was $390 so would be looking for that plus PP fees and shipping.  this whole process with them was extremely frustrating...

please DM me if interested

Why not just get a refund?

that would be my next step but figured if someone on here wanted one and missed it, they could buy one. in addition BW hasnt replied to a single email (i've sent 4) during the months since it was purchased. i assume only way to get a refund would be a cc dispute but someone on here posted a screen shot of their response when threatening BW w the same thing. figured this was the path of least resistance

[Terry Fuckwitt]

Aug 4, 2021 13:09:47 GMT 1 eldukerman 212 said:

Aug 4, 2021 13:05:24 GMT 1 Terry Fuckwitt said:

Why not just get a refund?

that would be my next step but figured if someone on here wanted one and missed it, they could buy one. in addition BW hasnt replied to a single email (i've sent 4) during the months since it was purchased. i assume only way to get a refund would be a cc dispute but someone on here posted a screen shot of their response when threatening BW w the same thing. figured this was the path of least resistance

Fair enough, but be careful of the time line to trying to obtain a refund.

[ADC]

Aug 4, 2021 13:05:24 GMT 1 Terry Fuckwitt said:

Aug 4, 2021 13:03:36 GMT 1 eldukerman 212 said:

hello all-

after 4 months the COA finally came yesterday and there is a crease on the top left.  i messaged Edgar on IG to see if i could replace it and he simply said there are none left.  i reached out to BW numerous times since the process began so figured before i go down that alley again i'd reach out to see if anyone wants to purchase at cost.  it was $390 so would be looking for that plus PP fees and shipping.  this whole process with them was extremely frustrating...

please DM me if interested

Why not just get a refund?

Would they provide a refund for a creased COA? The official product that’s been purchased is the AR art.

[Terry Fuckwitt]

Aug 4, 2021 13:33:59 GMT 1 ADC said:

Aug 4, 2021 13:05:24 GMT 1 Terry Fuckwitt said:

Why not just get a refund?

Would they provide a refund for a creased COA? The official product that’s been purchased is the AR art.

Good point. I'm sure it will make it harder for cc chargeback if they dispute it. 

[eldukerman 212]

Aug 4, 2021 13:41:29 GMT 1 Terry Fuckwitt said:

Aug 4, 2021 13:33:59 GMT 1 ADC said:

Would they provide a refund for a creased COA? The official product that’s been purchased is the AR art.

Good point. I'm sure it will make it harder for cc chargeback if they dispute it. 

yes true but even the original AR was advertised as a "limited edition AR piece" which was just sent out as a link.

[mcgill14]

Maybe just me but why would anyone want to own a COA for a piece of art that they don't own?

[eldukerman 212]

Aug 4, 2021 13:51:08 GMT 1 mcgill14 said:

Maybe just me but why would anyone want to own a COA for a piece of art that they don't own?

it's hand finished - the AR link isn't password protected so i can provide that w the purchase...

[Terry Fuckwitt]

Aug 4, 2021 13:47:31 GMT 1 eldukerman 212 said:

Aug 4, 2021 13:41:29 GMT 1 Terry Fuckwitt said:

Good point. I'm sure it will make it harder for cc chargeback if they dispute it. 

yes true but even the original AR was advertised as a "limited edition AR piece" which was just sent out as a link.

In that case, then yeah, it's been mis-sold and they wouldn't stand a chance.

[Square]

Such a bummer we all waited 4 months for these scribbles...
He sent out FREE drawings/notes with MMR purchases that were better than any of the COA's.

Try them on instagram about the refund. Best of luck!~

[Newar]

AT least you receive something i ve no news from BW for a very Long Time (i try to reach them by mail and IG) they don't even bother to answer ....

[JL Broooks]

I’ve been in the fence for a while - but as a buyer I must say this is getting more and more dubious. I see Edgar has deleted all connections to BW projects on his Instagram as well. Like that helps the suckers that bought this.

Where is the ‘limited’ in this ‘limited edition’ artwork? And how can a COA ever weigh up for the actual artwork being nothing but limited? Also - where is the information on edition size (I.e. proof that it is limited)?

I believe credit cards have a 6 months claim period, right? I’m going down that route myself.

I’ve only felt hassled twice in my art collection career - once was by Rottenredrooster. This being the second one.

[User Error]

Are these finally landing in the US? If so, which courrier did BW use?