[eponte]

Hello forumites,
I am looking into purchasing some banksy items and looking for guidance.
I like the idea of the uk tenners and also the welcome mat rug, though I am a bit confused as to value.

I see some tenners bring some kind of coa not from banksy but from a guy named laz that worked with him and some don't, I also see welcome mats with banksy provenance from love welcomes. As an outsider I would think the value stands with the mats rather than the uk tenners, or am I missing something ?

Please advice.

[eponte]

Aug 16, 2021 3:28:37 GMT 1 derivitive said:

Aug 16, 2021 3:21:33 GMT 1 eponte said:

Hello forumites,
I am looking into purchasing some banksy items and looking for guidance.
I like the idea of the uk tenners and also the welcome mat rug, though I am a bit confused as to value.

I see some tenners bring some kind of coa not from banksy but from a guy named laz that worked with him and some don't, I also see welcome mats with banksy provenance from love welcomes. As an outsider I would think the value stands with the mats rather than the uk tenners, or am I missing something ?

Please advice.

Stay away from the tenners . Sign up at love welcomes to get a mat at cost (500 GBP) when they sell more.

Thank you for the reference. I just signed up..I see some mats on ebay at 1.2k and some tenners for a lot more than that...I am a bit baffled, is there something I am missing as to why the ask for the tenners?

[klock]

Aug 16, 2021 4:19:40 GMT 1 eponte said:

Aug 16, 2021 3:28:37 GMT 1 derivitive said:

Stay away from the tenners . Sign up at love welcomes to get a mat at cost (500 GBP) when they sell more.

Thank you for the reference. I just signed up..I see some mats on ebay at 1.2k and some tenners for a lot more than that...I am a bit baffled, is there something I am missing as to why the ask for the tenners?

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Think a lot of people in the forum our left baffled why Tenner's are nearly double in the price. There are 100,000 in circulation and only around 3,500 mats. In my opinion the mat ticks all the boxes - beautifully handcrafted, conveys a powerful message and is a beaut in the flesh.

Failing the mat a Walled off Boxset is a a pretty nice piece if you can get your hands on one. People on the forum from time to time sell them and your looking in the region of a grand upwards.

[Beetle Bum]

I would also suggest a Peckham Rock from the British Museum, they often come up here on the forum
marabouatthemuseum.com/2019/02/01/banksys-peckham-rock-at-the-british-museum/

Also the Bristol Museum posters are a really good start too.
Best of luck.

[Random Ginger Bloke]

The welcome mat is one of my favourite pieces, powerful story and classic banksy twist. Underrated for now but can see these becoming way more desirable down the line. Plus look amazing on the wall

[irl1]

Aug 16, 2021 3:21:33 GMT 1 eponte said:

Hello forumites,
I am looking into purchasing some banksy items and looking for guidance.
I like the idea of the uk tenners and also the welcome mat rug, though I am a bit confused as to value.

I see some tenners bring some kind of coa not from banksy but from a guy named laz that worked with him and some don't, I also see welcome mats with banksy provenance from love welcomes. As an outsider I would think the value stands with the mats rather than the uk tenners, or am I missing something ?

Please advice.

Buy the tenner direct way too many fakes even with Laz COA's

Be careful on here there are chancers everywhere, but overall most users are sound.

If you're buying something and you're not sure ask on here BEFORE you buy


lazemporium.com/products/di-faced-tenner?_pos=1&_sid=53275f5c1&_ss=r

[eponte]

This is all great info, thank you.

I am leaning into purchasing a mat off ebay by December if I'm not selected by then, wish me a bit of luck:) I like the tenners but it seems very risky and I can not find any concrete wording on their validity, has there been any word from banksy or about the tenners ?

[eponte]

thank you all for the pm's and help

[Lazarus II]

Aug 16, 2021 18:19:55 GMT 1 eponte said:

This is all great info, thank you.

I am leaning into purchasing a mat off ebay by December if I'm not selected by then, wish me a bit of luck:) I like the tenners but it seems very risky and I can not find any concrete wording on their validity, has there been any word from banksy or about the tenners ?

as irl1 says buy a tenner from Laz if you want to ensure its legit. Dont buy from any galleries, online or otherwise, if they offer you their own COA. Some legit tenners come up for sale on here from time to time.

You should spend some time perusing this forum before you buy anything as there are loads of informative threads on Banksy items. By your own admission you are new to this, you barely knew of Lazarides so there will be plenty members on here willing to remove cash from your wallet in exchange for some magic beans.

[Shoeless]

Aug 16, 2021 22:16:29 GMT 1 Lazarus II said:

Aug 16, 2021 18:19:55 GMT 1 eponte said:

This is all great info, thank you.

I am leaning into purchasing a mat off ebay by December if I'm not selected by then, wish me a bit of luck:) I like the tenners but it seems very risky and I can not find any concrete wording on their validity, has there been any word from banksy or about the tenners ?

as irl1 says buy a tenner from Laz if you want to ensure its legit. Dont buy from any galleries, online or otherwise, if they offer you their own COA. Some legit tenners come up for sale on here from time to time.

You should spend some time perusing this forum before you buy anything as there are loads of informative threads on Banksy items. By your own admission you are new to this, you barely knew of Lazarides so there will be plenty members on here willing to remove cash from your wallet in exchange for some magic beans.

Wouldnt a Bottleneck framed Tenner be a worthwhile suggestion as well?

I picked one up when they first released them and have thought of selling. Haven’t heard of any issues with the authenticity but would like to know if there are doubts.

[Acme Thunderer]

There are some Banksy items/memorabilia available at the next Tate Ward auction. Sometimes they go for around the reserve. Wouldn’t get the Di Faced Tenners from there though for the same reasons others have said.

www.tateward.com/auction/details/041-tate-ward--artsy---by-collectors-for-collectors/?au=59

[davin550]

Venturing into Banksy art can be a very daunting thing. There are a lot of fakes you have to be careful of. Fake tenners are rampant. For that reason, I've never bought one. If possible, it is best to buy from the source. As others have mentioned, get on the waitlist for a Welcome Mat. You may have to wait a while, as I think it was 18 months or more between the last 2 Welcome Mat drops.

If you choose to buy off the secondary market, look for items that are on the newer side or not cost effective for counterfeiters to duplicate such as:
- Welcome Mat
- Peckham Rock
- Visit Historic Palestine Posters
- Forgive Us Our Tresspassing - Don't Panic posters

Even with the above, you should do your due diligence. Its okay to start out small. Even his smaller endeavors will gain value if given time. Remember, those tenners were originally given out for free.

[eponte]

Thank you all again for the input. I did do a search as recommended by some members and that was a hoard of a read..I most definitely want a mat now
The uk tenner subject seems to be a iffy one from the PMs I've read and the posts from threads I've visited on here, not sure I would buy it unless I know for sure that it is cannon, approved by banksy like all the other smaller items I am being shown

[eponte]

Aug 16, 2021 23:54:01 GMT 1 Shoeless said:

Aug 16, 2021 22:16:29 GMT 1 Lazarus II said:

as irl1 says buy a tenner from Laz if you want to ensure its legit. Dont buy from any galleries, online or otherwise, if they offer you their own COA. Some legit tenners come up for sale on here from time to time.

You should spend some time perusing this forum before you buy anything as there are loads of informative threads on Banksy items. By your own admission you are new to this, you barely knew of Lazarides so there will be plenty members on here willing to remove cash from your wallet in exchange for some magic beans.

Wouldnt a Bottleneck framed Tenner be a worthwhile suggestion as well?

I picked one up when they first released them and have thought of selling. Haven’t heard of any issues with the authenticity but would like to know if there are doubts.

I also saw this version, what is the difference between this version and Laz's?

[Lazarus II]

Aug 17, 2021 3:37:36 GMT 1 derivitive said:

Aug 17, 2021 2:23:03 GMT 1 eponte said:

I also saw this version, what is the difference between this version and Laz's?

Laz sends a tenner and a worthless letter. There is no way to show the tenner and the letter are tied together in any way . Just one of the many tenners in his closet and a worthless letter with his dumb thumb print on it.[brBottleneck)comes in a holder with some holograms or whatever. It's been seen as faked on the market already.

i bought a framed tenner from Gallart which was released aroubd the same time as Bottleneck’s tenner; its a bit disengenious to say its a holder but each to their own.

Id have no problems buying one of these secondary if it was from original buyer and came with receipt and matching letter and hologram. It was clear that these were from Laz and when you look at the tenner itself it is identical to a tenner you get on a COA except its not ripped in half😊

[Lazarus II]

Aug 16, 2021 23:54:01 GMT 1 Shoeless said:

Aug 16, 2021 22:16:29 GMT 1 Lazarus II said:

as irl1 says buy a tenner from Laz if you want to ensure its legit. Dont buy from any galleries, online or otherwise, if they offer you their own COA. Some legit tenners come up for sale on here from time to time.

You should spend some time perusing this forum before you buy anything as there are loads of informative threads on Banksy items. By your own admission you are new to this, you barely knew of Lazarides so there will be plenty members on here willing to remove cash from your wallet in exchange for some magic beans.

Wouldnt a Bottleneck framed Tenner be a worthwhile suggestion as well?

I picked one up when they first released them and have thought of selling. Haven’t heard of any issues with the authenticity but would like to know if there are doubts.

yes, i would buy a Bottleneck or Gallart tenner.

[Rob Mitchell Art]

I’ve been in the same boat. Just purchasing a few items via a gallery I’m currently with. I never really just appreciated how clever banksy is with his work. Im kinda addicted now and would love to one day get my hands on something a bit more special. My advise is to always purchase from a reputable source, so many fakes on the market.






I’m keeping mine wrapped up till my studio is finished then I’ll display them.

[damien87]

Aug 17, 2021 5:04:55 GMT 1 Lazarus II said:

Aug 16, 2021 23:54:01 GMT 1 Shoeless said:

Wouldnt a Bottleneck framed Tenner be a worthwhile suggestion as well?

I picked one up when they first released them and have thought of selling. Haven’t heard of any issues with the authenticity but would like to know if there are doubts.

yes, i would buy a Bottleneck or Gallart tenner.

[damien87]

Hi all I have my Di Faced Tenner for sale purchased directly from Steve Lazarides with his COA. Im open to offers, if you're interested pm me.
Cheers, Damien

[rosac]

I have a genuine banksy soup cans purchased from POW with original tube and receipt. Still Unopened so will open it for inspection before sale. DM

[handy]

Hi eponte,

Note that Steve Lazarides Di Faced Tenners are currently available on his website at the "special price" of
1750 GBP for the month of August. Probably the most reliable and efficient way to venture into the tenners.
The trend for the moment is that the tenners "sell out" on the website then get re-stocked. Who knows how long that trend will last...

I understand there are fake Laz CoAs now so even have to be careful with that urbanartassociation.com/thread/167365/laz-banksy-di-faced-tenner

Many fantastic and reliable members here but there's no reason why a dodgy ebay seller couldn't create a login and try to sell something on here. Just be careful. Low post count not a good sign, etc

[rosac]

Aug 17, 2021 10:58:32 GMT 1 rosac said:

I have a genuine banksy soup cans purchased from POW with original tube and receipt. Still Unopened so will open it for inspection before sale. DM

Sorry this is the multi can poster I’m talking about to be clear

[mlyelmk]

I'm still looking to trade my 2 peckham rocks ! Happy to discuss with a collector who wants to swap these

[eponte]

Thank you all.
This turned out a nice little thread, thanks for the info.
I am def gunning for the mat,and just can't get my head around the uk tenner situation.. I am not that sure, it's a considerable amount of money to put into something that even with some type of letter no one can tell if it is legit or limited/from a series or from banksy himself...does banksy's office validate these if I were to purchase and inquire?

[eponte]

Aug 17, 2021 10:20:00 GMT 1 damien87 said:

Aug 17, 2021 5:04:55 GMT 1 Lazarus II said:

yes, i would buy a Bottleneck or Gallart tenner.

I am thinking of buying one and possibly asking Banksy's office for authentication, is this something you've tried before?

[irl1]

Aug 17, 2021 21:34:48 GMT 1 eponte said:

Thank you all.
This turned out a nice little thread, thanks for the info.
I am def gunning for the mat,and just can't get my head around the uk tenner situation.. I am not that sure, it's a considerable amount of money to put into something that even with some type of letter no one can tell if it is legit or limited/from a series or from banksy himself...does banksy's office validate these if I were to purchase and inquire?

No only these below

www.sothebys.com/en/buy/auction/2020/banksy-online/banksy-di-faced-tenners

[jarw]

I'm familiar with Di Faced Tenners and have seen them go up in value over the years.  Laz is the real deal and if it's bought through him and/or authenticated by him you are good to go for sure.  I don't know much about the mats so sorry i can't help you there...

[jarw]

disagree with that statement about not buying from Laz cause they are not authenitcated....simply not true...i have bought from him and have the authentification...i'm holding for years.....think they'll be worth a lot more

[Art Collector]

Aug 17, 2021 22:13:28 GMT 1 jarw said:

disagree with that statement about not buying from Laz cause they are not authenitcated....simply not true...i have bought from him and have the authentification...i'm holding for years.....think they'll be worth a lot more

Only Pest Control can authenticate Banksy

What you have is a letter of provenance 

And if it's one of them worded like this:

"I can confirm that this Di faced tenner is from my personal collection and once belonged to me"

Where does it say it's an authentic Di faced tenner produced by the artist Banksy?

[JW]

Aug 17, 2021 22:29:14 GMT 1 derivitive said:

The other issue is the amount that exist of known and unknown authentic versions. At a minimum, there are at least 100,000.

www.myartbroker.com/artist/banksy/10-things-to-know-about-banksys-di-faced-tenner/

The sloppy attention to detail on that site doesn't do your narrative any favours. It states that "Banksy admitted to forging a total of £100 million of notes".

Ahhh, no he didn't. He said "£1 million".

But anyway, no doubt plenty are in circulation, but if we take the £1 million comment at face value and also the comment that Banksy still owns most of them - can there really be 100,000 "at a minimum" out there? 

Do you have a more reputable source?