amputeerich
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Gallery reputation and import process, by amputeerich on May 23, 2021 8:55:03 GMT 1, Good morning,
Great to finally be part of the community.
Im hoping to purchase an original piece of art from street art place Gallery in Italy and was wondering if anyone had any previous dealings with them. Are they reputable and what was your experience like? The piece in question is framed with museum glass, has anyone ordered a framed item from the EU to the UK and how was your experience of shipping? Did it arrive intact? Is there anyone you would recommend for shipping?
Secondly, the gallery manager doesnโt fill me with confidence when it comes to additional charges at this end, is there anything I can advice him on the process for VAT etc with regards to codes? If I got landed with a 20% charge it would make it unaffordable and would put me in a bad position but the 5% that it should be would be palatable.
Thanks for your time and I look forward to the replies.
Rich
Good morning,
Great to finally be part of the community.
Im hoping to purchase an original piece of art from street art place Gallery in Italy and was wondering if anyone had any previous dealings with them. Are they reputable and what was your experience like? The piece in question is framed with museum glass, has anyone ordered a framed item from the EU to the UK and how was your experience of shipping? Did it arrive intact? Is there anyone you would recommend for shipping?
Secondly, the gallery manager doesnโt fill me with confidence when it comes to additional charges at this end, is there anything I can advice him on the process for VAT etc with regards to codes? If I got landed with a 20% charge it would make it unaffordable and would put me in a bad position but the 5% that it should be would be palatable.
Thanks for your time and I look forward to the replies.
Rich
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dreadware
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Gallery reputation and import process, by dreadware on May 23, 2021 9:21:04 GMT 1, Good morning, Great to finally be part of the community.ย Im hoping to purchase an original piece of art from street art place Gallery in Italy and was wondering if anyone had any previous dealings with them. Are they reputable and what was your experience like? The piece in question is framed with museum glass, has anyone ordered a framed item from the EU to the UK and how was your experience of shipping? Did it arrive intact? Is there anyone you would recommend for shipping? Secondly, the gallery manager doesnโt fill me with confidence when it comes to additional charges at this end, is there anything I can advice him on the process for VAT etc with regards to codes? If I got landed with a 20% charge it would make it unaffordable and would put me in a bad position but the 5% that it should be would be palatable.ย Thanks for your time and I look forward to the replies. Rich
I bought several pieces from Davide. Nice guy and easy to deal with. I bought also framed ones,but small. Always arrived safe.
The price is a different thing and you have to be clear about everything.
Good morning, Great to finally be part of the community.ย Im hoping to purchase an original piece of art from street art place Gallery in Italy and was wondering if anyone had any previous dealings with them. Are they reputable and what was your experience like? The piece in question is framed with museum glass, has anyone ordered a framed item from the EU to the UK and how was your experience of shipping? Did it arrive intact? Is there anyone you would recommend for shipping? Secondly, the gallery manager doesnโt fill me with confidence when it comes to additional charges at this end, is there anything I can advice him on the process for VAT etc with regards to codes? If I got landed with a 20% charge it would make it unaffordable and would put me in a bad position but the 5% that it should be would be palatable.ย Thanks for your time and I look forward to the replies. Rich I bought several pieces from Davide. Nice guy and easy to deal with. I bought also framed ones,but small. Always arrived safe. The price is a different thing and you have to be clear about everything. |
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Gallery reputation and import process, by Happy Shopper on May 23, 2021 9:26:48 GMT 1, is there anything I can advice him on the process for VAT etc with regards to codes? If I got landed with a 20% charge it would make it unaffordable and would put me in a bad position but the 5% that it should be would be palatable.ย Thanks for your time and I look forward to the replies. Rich
Do a search on here for the thread about Tarif Codes... marking it correctly could help...
But chances are youโll be charged 20% anyway and have to claim it back.
is there anything I can advice him on the process for VAT etc with regards to codes? If I got landed with a 20% charge it would make it unaffordable and would put me in a bad position but the 5% that it should be would be palatable.ย Thanks for your time and I look forward to the replies. Rich Do a search on here for the thread about Tarif Codes... marking it correctly could help... But chances are youโll be charged 20% anyway and have to claim it back. |
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danny2400
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Gallery reputation and import process, by danny2400 on May 23, 2021 11:03:03 GMT 1, Just reiterating at this point, few purchases from SAP, all good, few queries, all dealt with, would recommended. Your going to have have to accept paying the 20% up front & claiming the difference back down to 5%. I donโt know of it working for anyone, any other way...
You canโt fault the gallery for not knowing each countryโs import fees & processes when the people doing the delivering clearly donโt!!
Just reiterating at this point, few purchases from SAP, all good, few queries, all dealt with, would recommended. Your going to have have to accept paying the 20% up front & claiming the difference back down to 5%. I donโt know of it working for anyone, any other way...
You canโt fault the gallery for not knowing each countryโs import fees & processes when the people doing the delivering clearly donโt!!
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amputeerich
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Gallery reputation and import process, by amputeerich on May 23, 2021 13:40:43 GMT 1, Excellent advice and it surely fills me with enough confidence to move forward. For those with experience, is claiming the 15% duties back fairly straightforward or quite laborious?
There was a suggestion put to me to insure the consignment for less and therefore pay less duties but my biggest fear is the glass smashing and damaging the canvas. This could be playing with fire but people have contacted me directly to say everything theyโve ordered from SAP has arrived on time and as described (with the exception of the chap in the link above.
The other question which some of you may be able to help with is one of payment. Is there a low fee option for buyers in the UK to pay with euros? Iโve looked at PayPal and their rate is not particularly competitive and then thereโs fees on top...
Excellent advice and it surely fills me with enough confidence to move forward. For those with experience, is claiming the 15% duties back fairly straightforward or quite laborious?
There was a suggestion put to me to insure the consignment for less and therefore pay less duties but my biggest fear is the glass smashing and damaging the canvas. This could be playing with fire but people have contacted me directly to say everything theyโve ordered from SAP has arrived on time and as described (with the exception of the chap in the link above.
The other question which some of you may be able to help with is one of payment. Is there a low fee option for buyers in the UK to pay with euros? Iโve looked at PayPal and their rate is not particularly competitive and then thereโs fees on top...
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Winks
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Gallery reputation and import process, by Winks on May 23, 2021 16:22:20 GMT 1, Excellent advice and it surely fills me with enough confidence to move forward. For those with experience, is claiming the 15% duties back fairly straightforward or quite laborious? There was a suggestion put to me to insure the consignment for less and therefore pay less duties but my biggest fear is the glass smashing and damaging the canvas. This could be playing with fire but people have contacted me directly to say everything theyโve ordered from SAP has arrived on time and as described (with the exception of the chap in the link above. The other question which some of you may be able to help with is one of payment. Is there a low fee option for buyers in the UK to pay with euros? Iโve looked at PayPal and their rate is not particularly competitive and then thereโs fees on top...
Easy. Form BOR286 if delivered by Royal Mail or Parcelforce.
Form C285 for any other couriers.
Excellent advice and it surely fills me with enough confidence to move forward. For those with experience, is claiming the 15% duties back fairly straightforward or quite laborious? There was a suggestion put to me to insure the consignment for less and therefore pay less duties but my biggest fear is the glass smashing and damaging the canvas. This could be playing with fire but people have contacted me directly to say everything theyโve ordered from SAP has arrived on time and as described (with the exception of the chap in the link above. The other question which some of you may be able to help with is one of payment. Is there a low fee option for buyers in the UK to pay with euros? Iโve looked at PayPal and their rate is not particularly competitive and then thereโs fees on top... Easy. Form BOR286 if delivered by Royal Mail or Parcelforce. Form C285 for any other couriers. |
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danny2400
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Gallery reputation and import process, by danny2400 on May 23, 2021 18:23:11 GMT 1, Bit of too & fro with courier via email. Last time took me 3 weeks to get refund. Less aggravation than devaluing an item for the sake of less up-front fees, & worrying about the postman playing football with it all the way from Italy..
Bit of too & fro with courier via email. Last time took me 3 weeks to get refund. Less aggravation than devaluing an item for the sake of less up-front fees, & worrying about the postman playing football with it all the way from Italy..
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Gallery reputation and import process, by Happy Go Lucky Chap on May 23, 2021 18:29:40 GMT 1, Have bought both framed and unframed prints from Street Art Place, with no issues. I would gladly recommend them.
Have bought both framed and unframed prints from Street Art Place, with no issues. I would gladly recommend them.
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dreadware
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Gallery reputation and import process, by dreadware on Jun 17, 2021 17:05:40 GMT 1, So they complain about spelling and then use "wrote on" instead of "written on". Oh dear.
sad is that also nuno viegas wrote a comment,which I found very unappropriate. Why would you not want a gallery to sell your prints? Don't understand that...
So they complain about spelling and then use "wrote on" instead of "written on". Oh dear. sad is that also nuno viegas wrote a comment,which I found very unappropriate. Why would you not want a gallery to sell your prints? Don't understand that... |
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Gallery reputation and import process, by Daylight Robber on Jun 17, 2021 18:01:37 GMT 1, sad is that also nuno viegas wrote a comment,which I found very unappropriate. Why would you not want a gallery to sell your prints? Don't understand that... They are issuing fraudulent COAs
Has anyone actually received a COA like this from Street Art Place or are we just going on a post from GP?
sad is that also nuno viegas wrote a comment,which I found very unappropriate. Why would you not want a gallery to sell your prints? Don't understand that... They are issuing fraudulent COAs Has anyone actually received a COA like this from Street Art Place or are we just going on a post from GP? |
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mrizzle
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Gallery reputation and import process, by mrizzle on Jun 17, 2021 22:21:16 GMT 1, They are issuing fraudulent COAs Has anyone actually received a COA like this from Street Art Place or are we just going on a post from GP?
Iโve not bought from them to be able to comment. I did try and buy something but the website kept glitching and I ended up with a huge number of preauthorisation charges which prompted a fraud check from my bank. I gave up in the end.
They are issuing fraudulent COAs Has anyone actually received a COA like this from Street Art Place or are we just going on a post from GP? Iโve not bought from them to be able to comment. I did try and buy something but the website kept glitching and I ended up with a huge number of preauthorisation charges which prompted a fraud check from my bank. I gave up in the end. |
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frax
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Gallery reputation and import process, by frax on Jun 17, 2021 22:22:43 GMT 1, They are issuing fraudulent COAs Has anyone actually received a COA like this from Street Art Place or are we just going on a post from GP?
Street Art Place has issued COAs of this kind for official releases through their own gallery (e.g. Kunstrasen).
In my opinion, itโs a question about the definition/interpretation of a COA. I guess, GP takes the view that only they as the publishing print house are eligible to issue a COA for prints of their own releases. However, one could also argue, any reliable expert (in this case SAP) who can proof the authentity of an artwork based on material, signature, and provenience is legitimate to issue COAs. I mean, this is certainly the way for artworks of artists who are not alive anymoreโฆ But to be honest, itโs certainly unfortunate that they made all these spelling mistakesโฆ
They are issuing fraudulent COAs Has anyone actually received a COA like this from Street Art Place or are we just going on a post from GP? Street Art Place has issued COAs of this kind for official releases through their own gallery (e.g. Kunstrasen). In my opinion, itโs a question about the definition/interpretation of a COA. I guess, GP takes the view that only they as the publishing print house are eligible to issue a COA for prints of their own releases. However, one could also argue, any reliable expert (in this case SAP) who can proof the authentity of an artwork based on material, signature, and provenience is legitimate to issue COAs. I mean, this is certainly the way for artworks of artists who are not alive anymoreโฆ But to be honest, itโs certainly unfortunate that they made all these spelling mistakesโฆ |
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rzik
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Gallery reputation and import process, by rzik on Jun 17, 2021 23:02:53 GMT 1, So they complain about spelling and then use "wrote on" instead of "written on". Oh dear. sad is that also nuno viegas wrote a comment,which I found very unappropriate. Why would you not want a gallery to sell your prints? Don't understand that...
I donโt know this Gallery,
But if the print is an authentic one, whatโs the problem ?
When you look the print itโs look authentic with the GP stamp,
They have so many Gallery that make they own COA when they resale, the problem is it because they Flip/ Resale ? And they donโt pay the ยซย ยซย Artist Resale Royalty Rightsย ยป
So they complain about spelling and then use "wrote on" instead of "written on". Oh dear. sad is that also nuno viegas wrote a comment,which I found very unappropriate. Why would you not want a gallery to sell your prints? Don't understand that... I donโt know this Gallery, But if the print is an authentic one, whatโs the problem ? When you look the print itโs look authentic with the GP stamp, They have so many Gallery that make they own COA when they resale, the problem is it because they Flip/ Resale ? And they donโt pay the ยซย ยซย Artist Resale Royalty Rightsย ยป |
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rzik
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Gallery reputation and import process, by rzik on Jun 17, 2021 23:06:55 GMT 1, So they complain about spelling and then use "wrote on" instead of "written on". Oh dear. sad is that also nuno viegas wrote a comment,which I found very unappropriate. Why would you not want a gallery to sell your prints? Don't understand that...
But if the print is an authentic one, whatโs the problem ?
When you look the print itโs look authentic with the GP stamp,
They have so many Gallery that make they own COA when they resale, the problem is it because they Flip/ Resale ? And they donโt pay the ยซ ยซ Artist Resale Royalty Rights ยป
So they complain about spelling and then use "wrote on" instead of "written on". Oh dear. sad is that also nuno viegas wrote a comment,which I found very unappropriate. Why would you not want a gallery to sell your prints? Don't understand that... I donโt know this Gallery, But if the print is an authentic one, whatโs the problem ? When you look the print itโs look authentic with the GP stamp, They have so many Gallery that make they own COA when they resale, the problem is it because they Flip/ Resale ? And they donโt pay the ยซ ยซ Artist Resale Royalty Rights ยป |
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tab1
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Gallery reputation and import process, by tab1 on Jun 17, 2021 23:38:08 GMT 1, Must be a vault sale coming up, knock out the competition to direct sales to the vault sales
Itโs embossed, a few checks could find the original owner, pictures and details to the printshop should issue a coa again ?
Not at pest control levels yet and no known fake gp prints yet to the market with the embossed stamps although there is a shop in China making fake gp products without stamps
Must be a vault sale coming up, knock out the competition to direct sales to the vault sales
Itโs embossed, a few checks could find the original owner, pictures and details to the printshop should issue a coa again ?
Not at pest control levels yet and no known fake gp prints yet to the market with the embossed stamps although there is a shop in China making fake gp products without stamps
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tab1
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Gallery reputation and import process, by tab1 on Jun 18, 2021 0:04:26 GMT 1, In the past gp used to sell secondary market prints from other sources with their coa,
They had a few dolks in the early days, pot calling the kettle black.
Understandable if confirmed a fake as is itโs genuine until confirmed not, gives opportunity to fans that did not make the list
In the past gp used to sell secondary market prints from other sources with their coa,
They had a few dolks in the early days, pot calling the kettle black.
Understandable if confirmed a fake as is itโs genuine until confirmed not, gives opportunity to fans that did not make the list
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tab1
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Gallery reputation and import process, by tab1 on Jun 18, 2021 1:09:26 GMT 1, In the past gp used to sell secondary market prints from other sources with their coa, They had a few dolks in the early days, pot calling the kettle black. Understandable if confirmed a fake as is itโs genuine until confirmed not, gives opportunity to fans that did not make the list I think the issue here is not the print being a fake. I think here the issues are others, above all "exclusivity" of an artist. What works you said were sold as secondary from GP with their own COA? Just those Dolks?
There used to be whole page section of various other artist of secondary market prints seperate to release page , beejoir, mau mau before he represented them, these only stick out as I used to collect these artists
Around 2015 and prior by this thread
urbanartassociation.com/thread/128221/dolk-vandal
In the past gp used to sell secondary market prints from other sources with their coa, They had a few dolks in the early days, pot calling the kettle black. Understandable if confirmed a fake as is itโs genuine until confirmed not, gives opportunity to fans that did not make the list I think the issue here is not the print being a fake. I think here the issues are others, above all "exclusivity" of an artist. What works you said were sold as secondary from GP with their own COA? Just those Dolks? There used to be whole page section of various other artist of secondary market prints seperate to release page , beejoir, mau mau before he represented them, these only stick out as I used to collect these artists Around 2015 and prior by this thread urbanartassociation.com/thread/128221/dolk-vandal |
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tab1
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Gallery reputation and import process, by tab1 on Jun 18, 2021 1:27:04 GMT 1, There used to be whole page section of various other artist of secondary market prints seperate to release page , beejoir, mau mau before he represented them, these only stick out as I used to collect these artists And weโre they sold with GP COA then, instead of the COA from the original gallery/producer?
To be technical this outfit just states the authenticity of the print on their coa they do not imply they made it, there by just confirming itโs a genuine product
Gp coa states graffiti products genuine product on the certificate there by implying and stating they made the print
There used to be whole page section of various other artist of secondary market prints seperate to release page , beejoir, mau mau before he represented them, these only stick out as I used to collect these artists And weโre they sold with GP COA then, instead of the COA from the original gallery/producer? To be technical this outfit just states the authenticity of the print on their coa they do not imply they made it, there by just confirming itโs a genuine product Gp coa states graffiti products genuine product on the certificate there by implying and stating they made the print |
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tab1
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Gallery reputation and import process, by tab1 on Jun 18, 2021 3:15:21 GMT 1, To be technical this outfit just states the authenticity of the print on their coa they do not imply they made it, there by just confirming itโs a genuine product Gp coa states graffiti products genuine product on the certificate there by implying and stating they made the print ... Come on. No. That's not okay.
Option to whinge and bitch here on an art forum or if feel so strongly about the issue contact the gallery and state your opinions and support gp on his social media posts ?
Gp should not have vip lists or selling aps or pps discreetly then this event would not happen ?
To be technical this outfit just states the authenticity of the print on their coa they do not imply they made it, there by just confirming itโs a genuine product Gp coa states graffiti products genuine product on the certificate there by implying and stating they made the print ... Come on. No. That's not okay. Option to whinge and bitch here on an art forum or if feel so strongly about the issue contact the gallery and state your opinions and support gp on his social media posts ? Gp should not have vip lists or selling aps or pps discreetly then this event would not happen ? |
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tab1
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Gallery reputation and import process, by tab1 on Jun 18, 2021 3:54:25 GMT 1, Option to whinge and bitch here on an art forum or if feel so strongly about the issue contact the gallery and state your opinions and support gp on his social media posts ? Gp should not have vip lists or selling aps or pps discreetly then this event would not happen ? Already commented on the post, and the PP and AP GP sell come with COA, I have some.
On the special list ๐
Option to whinge and bitch here on an art forum or if feel so strongly about the issue contact the gallery and state your opinions and support gp on his social media posts ? Gp should not have vip lists or selling aps or pps discreetly then this event would not happen ? Already commented on the post, and the PP and AP GP sell come with COA, I have some. On the special list ๐ |
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tab1
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Gallery reputation and import process, by tab1 on Jun 18, 2021 9:27:32 GMT 1, Nope, just collect artists on talent and not hype. No Whatson in my collection.
neither do I, part of the learning curve when you first start this hobby,what artist from gp with ap and pp do
You have ?
Nope, just collect artists on talent and not hype. No Whatson in my collection. neither do I, part of the learning curve when you first start this hobby,what artist from gp with ap and pp do You have ? |
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mrizzle
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Gallery reputation and import process, by mrizzle on Jun 18, 2021 14:27:41 GMT 1, So they complain about spelling and then use "wrote on" instead of "written on". Oh dear. sad is that also nuno viegas wrote a comment,which I found very unappropriate. Why would you not want a gallery to sell your prints? Don't understand that...
It was one of the skate decks that Iโd been trying to buy but now Iโve heard how poor the printing is I am not going to bother. 
So they complain about spelling and then use "wrote on" instead of "written on". Oh dear. sad is that also nuno viegas wrote a comment,which I found very unappropriate. Why would you not want a gallery to sell your prints? Don't understand that... Nuno Viegas has elaborated on his previous comment and more clearly expressed his frustrations.ย It was one of the skate decks that Iโd been trying to buy but now Iโve heard how poor the printing is I am not going to bother. |
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beicoblack
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Gallery reputation and import process, by beicoblack on Jun 18, 2021 14:58:13 GMT 1, This situation is extremely poorly handled by all parties involved.
This situation is extremely poorly handled by all parties involved.
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tab1
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Gallery reputation and import process, by tab1 on Jun 18, 2021 18:25:55 GMT 1, How were these prints released if no one was supposed to get them, and how do they always get gp prints as stated ,
Thatโs the problem that can occur when print shops conduct special sales to vip clients and do no release as a whole to the general public.
Comparing gp prints to Banksy is a bit far fetched I would say more on par with Picasso authorization body ?
How were these prints released if no one was supposed to get them, and how do they always get gp prints as stated ,
Thatโs the problem that can occur when print shops conduct special sales to vip clients and do no release as a whole to the general public.
Comparing gp prints to Banksy is a bit far fetched I would say more on par with Picasso authorization body ?
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