[Reader]

Mar 25, 2021 18:34:33 GMT 1 midlifecrisis said:

Live video stream

www.sothebys.com/en/digital-catalogues/modern-renaissance-a-cross-category-sale

Never liked this piece tbh, and it's up against some serious, serious works, makes it look pretty weak. Wonder if that'll impact the result. 

[toshspice]

Mar 25, 2021 19:00:35 GMT 1 Reader said:

Mar 25, 2021 18:34:33 GMT 1 midlifecrisis said:

Live video stream

www.sothebys.com/en/digital-catalogues/modern-renaissance-a-cross-category-sale

Never liked this piece tbh, and it's up against some serious, serious works, makes it look pretty weak. Wonder if that'll impact the result. 

£2.6million. Really badly sold by Sotheby’s.  Described as a concept for a poster when in reality it was a signature painting in a seminal exhibition in LA. 

[bonesy]

Mar 25, 2021 21:10:56 GMT 1 toshspice said:

Mar 25, 2021 19:00:35 GMT 1 Reader said:

Never liked this piece tbh, and it's up against some serious, serious works, makes it look pretty weak. Wonder if that'll impact the result. 

£2.6million. Really badly sold by Sotheby’s.  Described as a concept for a poster when in reality it was a signature painting in a seminal exhibition in LA. 

I hear ya but there were so many amazing pieces from this show and this one just felt like a Los Angeles reference that was thrown together because the show was in LA, which is fine.
Iconic, but most other pieces there were certainly stronger and more representative

[toshspice]

Mar 26, 2021 0:46:19 GMT 1 bonesy said:

Mar 25, 2021 21:10:56 GMT 1 toshspice said:

£2.6million. Really badly sold by Sotheby’s.  Described as a concept for a poster when in reality it was a signature painting in a seminal exhibition in LA. 

I hear ya but there were so many amazing pieces from this show and this one just felt like a Los Angeles reference that was thrown together because the show was in LA, which is fine.
Iconic, but most other pieces there were certainly stronger and more representative

If it’s iconic then it’s important. Sotheby’s didn’t talk that up. That’s called selling. They badly undersold it. Historically, Barely Legal was a turning point for Banksy. 

[Woodey1001]

FUGLY. Thats the only reason it didn't do well. A painting is a painting.

[toshspice]

Mar 26, 2021 12:39:41 GMT 1 Woodey1001 said:

FUGLY. Thats the only reason it didn't do well. A painting is a painting.

If fugly is an issue then explain how this De Kooning sold for £100m. 

[mose]

Mar 26, 2021 13:24:49 GMT 1 toshspice said:

Mar 26, 2021 12:39:41 GMT 1 Woodey1001 said:

FUGLY. Thats the only reason it didn't do well. A painting is a painting.

If that's the case then explain how this De Kooning sold for £100m. 

I know your point, but comparing/constrasting one of the most important paintings of the 20th century to this Banksy is kinda funny (and most important because of the Woman series, this particular one is lesser but at the time it sold I think it might have been the only one still in private hands).

Even funnier, 50 years from now it could be appropriate.

Personally, one of my greatest art experiences was seeing De Kooning's 'Woman' series reunited at his MoMA retrospective.  I believe it was their first reunion since originally show at Sidney Janis Gallery in 1953.

[Woodey1001]

Mar 26, 2021 13:24:49 GMT 1 toshspice said:

Mar 26, 2021 12:39:41 GMT 1 Woodey1001 said:

FUGLY. Thats the only reason it didn't do well. A painting is a painting.

If that's the case then explain how this De Kooning sold for £100m. 

Tits 🤷

[toshspice]

Mar 26, 2021 13:37:50 GMT 1 mose said:

Mar 26, 2021 13:24:49 GMT 1 toshspice said:

If that's the case then explain how this De Kooning sold for £100m. 

I know your point, but comparing/constrasting one of the most important paintings of the 20th century to this Banksy is kinda funny (and most important because of the Woman series, this particular one is lesser but at the time it sold I think it might have been the only one still in private hands).

Even funnier, 50 years from now it could be appropriate.

Personally, one of my greatest art experiences was seeing De Kooning's 'Woman' series reunited at his MoMA retrospective.  I believe it was their first reunion since originally show at Sidney Janis Gallery in 1953.

Do you think Banksy will be seen as one of the most important artists of the 21st Century?

 

[toshspice]

Mar 26, 2021 13:54:45 GMT 1 Woodey1001 said:

Mar 26, 2021 13:24:49 GMT 1 toshspice said:

If that's the case then explain how this De Kooning sold for £100m. 

Tits 🤷

Barely Legal has boobs and also bum.

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[toshspice]

Wonder how much the elephant is worth now?

[mose]

Mar 26, 2021 14:12:53 GMT 1 toshspice said:

Mar 26, 2021 13:37:50 GMT 1 mose said:

I know your point, but comparing/constrasting one of the most important paintings of the 20th century to this Banksy is kinda funny (and most important because of the Woman series, this particular one is lesser but at the time it sold I think it might have been the only one still in private hands).

Even funnier, 50 years from now it could be appropriate.

Personally, one of my greatest art experiences was seeing De Kooning's 'Woman' series reunited at his MoMA retrospective.  I believe it was their first reunion since originally show at Sidney Janis Gallery in 1953.

Do you think Banksy will be seen as one of the most important artists of the 21st Century?

 

I think we're already there, and I don't see anything that would make to think it's changing.  He's a cultural force.  I mean, I dislike a lot of Banksy actually.  That being said, his impact is undeniable as is his place in history (IMO).  We're at around the 20% mark in, but I can't think of an artist whose impact so far has been anywhere near Banksy.  The only thing that concerns, to this point, is the very limited institutional support.  Despite what some throw about, it is actually vital in keeping an artist 'alive' well past their living years.  It memorializes an artist's place in the cannon, their place in history, and teaches that to new generations.