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New Shepard Fairey, The High Cost of Free SpeechPrint, by irl1 on Mar 5, 2021 18:32:18 GMT 1, New release
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he High Cost Of Free Speech
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The High Cost Of Free Speech. 24 x 24 inches. Screen print on thick cream Speckletone paper. Original photo by Sean Bonner. Signed by Shepard Fairey. Numbered edition of 575. $80. Proceeds go to Les Restos du Cœur. Available on Tuesday, March 9th @ 10 AM PT at store.obeygiant.com/collections/prints. Max order: 1 per
Punk rock ignited a lot of creative and philosophical things for me, and punk principles continuously remind me that speaking truth to power and questioning authority is paramount in life. The Dead Kennedys, The Clash, Black Flag, and the Circle Jerks are just a few of the groups that referenced injustices such as police brutality and abuse of power in their songs, inspiring me to speak out about the same subjects through my art. I have made a lot of lasting friendships through punk rock and its cultural ofFor Salehoots. One of those friends is Sean Bonner, who began ordering my prints in the '90s while he was art director for punk label Victory Records. Sean designed the package for the Bad Brains "Omega Sessions," among others. Sean is a great designer, writer, activist, and photographer. Sean and I have worked on many projects together over the years, but this is our first art collaboration. I love Sean's photography, and he said a while back, "if you see anything you dig on my Instagram, you are welcome to make an illustration based on it." After the protests for racial justice and against police brutality this past summer, I remembered a pic of Sean's I liked. It turns out the photo was taken in Paris but could be from any city where the police do whatever they want to people - NY, LA, Minneapolis, Moscow, London, Berlin, etc. To me, Sean's image conveys the fairly universal problem that those who speak up for justice are often beaten down by the police for standing up. We need to demand accountability from those with power and demand consequences when that power is abused.
There have been consistent protests in France over the mistreatment of refugees and the erosion of the social safety net for low-income people. Since Sean's shot is actually from Paris and those French protests have been met with a lot of police brutality, we thought the poster should raise some money for a French charity called Les Restos du Coeur which provides services for the most marginalized populations. Thanks for caring! -Shepard
“My work is observational, not documentarian. I try to capture moments, feelings - less how things are, more how I experience them. Years ago, while in Paris, I came upon several heavily armored cops standing over a kid in a t-shirt who they were detaining, forcefully, agressively. A blatant and grotesque display of the imbalance of power which reminded me of similar situations my friends and I have experienced first hand all too often. Of course, sadly that isn't a unique experience. Shepard wields his art like weapon, relentlessly fighting for for a better tomorrow. With this image, I'm honored to have the chance to provide some ammo for that fight. Shepard's voice has always been thoughtful and poignant, as an artist and as a friend. This collaboration gives an amplified voice to a silent image, injecting an enduring message into a fleeting moment.” –Sean Bonner
store.obeygiant.com/collections/prints?mc_cid=019c1eabae&mc_eid=6a559771e8
New release Shepard Fairey he High Cost Of Free Speech Print Details: The High Cost Of Free Speech. 24 x 24 inches. Screen print on thick cream Speckletone paper. Original photo by Sean Bonner. Signed by Shepard Fairey. Numbered edition of 575. $80. Proceeds go to Les Restos du Cœur. Available on Tuesday, March 9th @ 10 AM PT at store.obeygiant.com/collections/prints. Max order: 1 per Punk rock ignited a lot of creative and philosophical things for me, and punk principles continuously remind me that speaking truth to power and questioning authority is paramount in life. The Dead Kennedys, The Clash, Black Flag, and the Circle Jerks are just a few of the groups that referenced injustices such as police brutality and abuse of power in their songs, inspiring me to speak out about the same subjects through my art. I have made a lot of lasting friendships through punk rock and its cultural ofFor Salehoots. One of those friends is Sean Bonner, who began ordering my prints in the '90s while he was art director for punk label Victory Records. Sean designed the package for the Bad Brains "Omega Sessions," among others. Sean is a great designer, writer, activist, and photographer. Sean and I have worked on many projects together over the years, but this is our first art collaboration. I love Sean's photography, and he said a while back, "if you see anything you dig on my Instagram, you are welcome to make an illustration based on it." After the protests for racial justice and against police brutality this past summer, I remembered a pic of Sean's I liked. It turns out the photo was taken in Paris but could be from any city where the police do whatever they want to people - NY, LA, Minneapolis, Moscow, London, Berlin, etc. To me, Sean's image conveys the fairly universal problem that those who speak up for justice are often beaten down by the police for standing up. We need to demand accountability from those with power and demand consequences when that power is abused. There have been consistent protests in France over the mistreatment of refugees and the erosion of the social safety net for low-income people. Since Sean's shot is actually from Paris and those French protests have been met with a lot of police brutality, we thought the poster should raise some money for a French charity called Les Restos du Coeur which provides services for the most marginalized populations. Thanks for caring! -Shepard “My work is observational, not documentarian. I try to capture moments, feelings - less how things are, more how I experience them. Years ago, while in Paris, I came upon several heavily armored cops standing over a kid in a t-shirt who they were detaining, forcefully, agressively. A blatant and grotesque display of the imbalance of power which reminded me of similar situations my friends and I have experienced first hand all too often. Of course, sadly that isn't a unique experience. Shepard wields his art like weapon, relentlessly fighting for for a better tomorrow. With this image, I'm honored to have the chance to provide some ammo for that fight. Shepard's voice has always been thoughtful and poignant, as an artist and as a friend. This collaboration gives an amplified voice to a silent image, injecting an enduring message into a fleeting moment.” –Sean Bonner store.obeygiant.com/collections/prints?mc_cid=019c1eabae&mc_eid=6a559771e8 |
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New Shepard Fairey, The High Cost of Free SpeechPrint, by Lroy on Mar 5, 2021 21:03:39 GMT 1, Nice one really ! Thanks Irl !
But well, he doubles the edition number : form 400 it's now 800...
Could me say thart he is selling prints now as tees ?
+ VAT ( the price of the print ) + bots etc..
a bit confusing at the end.. What is Shepard Fairey actually ?
Still activist ?
I have doubts..
Maybe..
Nice one really ! Thanks Irl !
But well, he doubles the edition number : form 400 it's now 800...
Could me say thart he is selling prints now as tees ?
+ VAT ( the price of the print ) + bots etc..
a bit confusing at the end.. What is Shepard Fairey actually ?
Still activist ?
I have doubts..
Maybe..
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New Shepard Fairey, The High Cost of Free SpeechPrint, by Lroy on Mar 5, 2021 21:04:34 GMT 1, Why the brand obey on the cap ?
Why the brand obey on the cap ?
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New Shepard Fairey, The High Cost of Free SpeechPrint, by philipw on Mar 9, 2021 19:14:52 GMT 1, As normal, sold in 30 seconds and 31 of them on eBay within 5 minutes.
As normal, sold in 30 seconds and 31 of them on eBay within 5 minutes.
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New Shepard Fairey, The High Cost of Free SpeechPrint, by Lroy on Mar 9, 2021 19:37:39 GMT 1, I would like to say, at the end..
Obey, the brand or S.F, you will never change ( the smell of money - as a lot of galeries you are working with etc.. as IG per example, all your ed. number on line are wrong and dishonest - maybe in fact, ( we all critized bots and unknown hackers or not) that only 10 % or less were on line !
I did not said, F.. , or treatin him as a commercial flipper ! But, years after years, clothes after clothes, tees etc, very expensive for kids, marketing etc and hype prints, we will have one day to say to question ourselves and to say stop ! No more lies !
Yesterday I was saying ( it happens sometimes ) the contrary, but the S.F. of today, has nothing anymore to see with the agitator of yesterday, filmed in Exit Through the Gift Shop !
At the contrary of Supreme ( sic ) why S.F. , still leave bots acting ( double sic ) nowadays ?
One day, we will know that the guy was not so much a warrior or rebel, but a commercial big dealer, as all big US brands, walking together, as all official unofficial swindle . We call that marketing !
How on a forum lite this that is becoming a trade/sale showcase ( when are we speaking about creativity or street art painting ? ) , we can still be abused by the hype.
Where is the old guard ? and of course the new one ?
I would like to say, at the end..
Obey, the brand or S.F, you will never change ( the smell of money - as a lot of galeries you are working with etc.. as IG per example, all your ed. number on line are wrong and dishonest - maybe in fact, ( we all critized bots and unknown hackers or not) that only 10 % or less were on line !
I did not said, F.. , or treatin him as a commercial flipper ! But, years after years, clothes after clothes, tees etc, very expensive for kids, marketing etc and hype prints, we will have one day to say to question ourselves and to say stop ! No more lies !
Yesterday I was saying ( it happens sometimes ) the contrary, but the S.F. of today, has nothing anymore to see with the agitator of yesterday, filmed in Exit Through the Gift Shop !
At the contrary of Supreme ( sic ) why S.F. , still leave bots acting ( double sic ) nowadays ?
One day, we will know that the guy was not so much a warrior or rebel, but a commercial big dealer, as all big US brands, walking together, as all official unofficial swindle . We call that marketing !
How on a forum lite this that is becoming a trade/sale showcase ( when are we speaking about creativity or street art painting ? ) , we can still be abused by the hype.
Where is the old guard ? and of course the new one ?
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New Shepard Fairey, The High Cost of Free SpeechPrint, by Lroy on Mar 9, 2021 19:43:10 GMT 1, As normal, sold in 30 seconds and 31 of them on eBay within 5 minutes. It should not be " normal "... We have or boycott that. Shepard is lying about the real number on line, and is still " working " with big flipper galeries on line or on ebay ( I know I bought all my obey on these flipping obey/ebay galeries ! fot X5... the drop price ). He can say stop for that ( as for uk shipping )
This guy is a bizness man ( that he criticize ) and that's all. One day you will know. big trust to don't trust.
As normal, sold in 30 seconds and 31 of them on eBay within 5 minutes. It should not be " normal "... We have or boycott that. Shepard is lying about the real number on line, and is still " working " with big flipper galeries on line or on ebay ( I know I bought all my obey on these flipping obey/ebay galeries ! fot X5... the drop price ). He can say stop for that ( as for uk shipping )
This guy is a bizness man ( that he criticize ) and that's all. One day you will know. big trust to don't trust.
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New Shepard Fairey, The High Cost of Free SpeechPrint, by Lroy on Mar 9, 2021 19:44:57 GMT 1, I would like to say, at the end.. Obey, the brand or S.F, you will never change ( the smell of money - as a lot of galeries you are working with etc.. as IG per example, all your ed. number on line are wrong and dishonest - maybe in fact, ( we all critized bots and unknown hackers or not) that only 10 % or less were on line ! I did not said, F.. , or treatin him as a commercial flipper ! But, years after years, clothes after clothes, tees etc, very expensive for kids, marketing etc and hype prints, we will have one day to say to question ourselves and to say stop ! No more lies ! Yesterday I was saying ( it happens sometimes ) the contrary, but the S.F. of today, has nothing anymore to see with the agitator of yesterday, filmed in Exit Through the Gift Shop ! At the contrary of Supreme ( sic ) why S.F. , still leave bots acting ( double sic ) nowadays ? One day, we will know that the guy was not so much a warrior or rebel, but a commercial big dealer, as all big US brands, walking together, as all official unofficial swindle . We call that marketing ! How on a forum lite this that is becoming a trade/sale showcase ( when are we speaking about creativity or street art painting ? ) , we can still be abused by the hype. Where is the old guard ? and of course the new one ? It's not a shepard fairey issue, it's a shopify issue Can you help me ? Who is the boss?... too complicared for me.
I would like to say, at the end.. Obey, the brand or S.F, you will never change ( the smell of money - as a lot of galeries you are working with etc.. as IG per example, all your ed. number on line are wrong and dishonest - maybe in fact, ( we all critized bots and unknown hackers or not) that only 10 % or less were on line ! I did not said, F.. , or treatin him as a commercial flipper ! But, years after years, clothes after clothes, tees etc, very expensive for kids, marketing etc and hype prints, we will have one day to say to question ourselves and to say stop ! No more lies ! Yesterday I was saying ( it happens sometimes ) the contrary, but the S.F. of today, has nothing anymore to see with the agitator of yesterday, filmed in Exit Through the Gift Shop ! At the contrary of Supreme ( sic ) why S.F. , still leave bots acting ( double sic ) nowadays ? One day, we will know that the guy was not so much a warrior or rebel, but a commercial big dealer, as all big US brands, walking together, as all official unofficial swindle . We call that marketing ! How on a forum lite this that is becoming a trade/sale showcase ( when are we speaking about creativity or street art painting ? ) , we can still be abused by the hype. Where is the old guard ? and of course the new one ? It's not a shepard fairey issue, it's a shopify issue Can you help me ? Who is the boss?... too complicared for me.
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New Shepard Fairey, The High Cost of Free SpeechPrint, by vvk on Mar 9, 2021 19:47:58 GMT 1, I would like to say, at the end.. Obey, the brand or S.F, you will never change ( the smell of money - as a lot of galeries you are working with etc.. as IG per example, all your ed. number on line are wrong and dishonest - maybe in fact, ( we all critized bots and unknown hackers or not) that only 10 % or less were on line ! I did not said, F.. , or treatin him as a commercial flipper ! But, years after years, clothes after clothes, tees etc, very expensive for kids, marketing etc and hype prints, we will have one day to say to question ourselves and to say stop ! No more lies ! Yesterday I was saying ( it happens sometimes ) the contrary, but the S.F. of today, has nothing anymore to see with the agitator of yesterday, filmed in Exit Through the Gift Shop ! At the contrary of Supreme ( sic ) why S.F. , still leave bots acting ( double sic ) nowadays ? One day, we will know that the guy was not so much a warrior or rebel, but a commercial big dealer, as all big US brands, walking together, as all official unofficial swindle . We call that marketing ! How on a forum lite this that is becoming a trade/sale showcase ( when are we speaking about creativity or street art painting ? ) , we can still be abused by the hype. Where is the old guard ? and of course the new one ?
I would like to say, at the end.. Obey, the brand or S.F, you will never change ( the smell of money - as a lot of galeries you are working with etc.. as IG per example, all your ed. number on line are wrong and dishonest - maybe in fact, ( we all critized bots and unknown hackers or not) that only 10 % or less were on line ! I did not said, F.. , or treatin him as a commercial flipper ! But, years after years, clothes after clothes, tees etc, very expensive for kids, marketing etc and hype prints, we will have one day to say to question ourselves and to say stop ! No more lies ! Yesterday I was saying ( it happens sometimes ) the contrary, but the S.F. of today, has nothing anymore to see with the agitator of yesterday, filmed in Exit Through the Gift Shop ! At the contrary of Supreme ( sic ) why S.F. , still leave bots acting ( double sic ) nowadays ? One day, we will know that the guy was not so much a warrior or rebel, but a commercial big dealer, as all big US brands, walking together, as all official unofficial swindle . We call that marketing ! How on a forum lite this that is becoming a trade/sale showcase ( when are we speaking about creativity or street art painting ? ) , we can still be abused by the hype. Where is the old guard ? and of course the new one ? this SF that you speak of is nothing like the real SF. You have no clue what your talking about in regards to how much of a great person he is and what greatness he does for his community and the world. if you had a oz of the generosity that he has you would be a much better for it. This mofo has been generous and kind since way before he had money. so what if he got lucky ( or he worked hard and made his luck) Good for him and better for the world becuase i know he uses his resources for good. I believe in free speech and the right for everyone to speak their mind, but Fuck You and the bullshit words that spew out your mouth like diarrhea. |
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New Shepard Fairey, The High Cost of Free SpeechPrint, by Lroy on Mar 9, 2021 20:11:57 GMT 1, I would like to say, at the end.. Obey, the brand or S.F, you will never change ( the smell of money - as a lot of galeries you are working with etc.. as IG per example, all your ed. number on line are wrong and dishonest - maybe in fact, ( we all critized bots and unknown hackers or not) that only 10 % or less were on line ! I did not said, F.. , or treatin him as a commercial flipper ! But, years after years, clothes after clothes, tees etc, very expensive for kids, marketing etc and hype prints, we will have one day to say to question ourselves and to say stop ! No more lies ! Yesterday I was saying ( it happens sometimes ) the contrary, but the S.F. of today, has nothing anymore to see with the agitator of yesterday, filmed in Exit Through the Gift Shop ! At the contrary of Supreme ( sic ) why S.F. , still leave bots acting ( double sic ) nowadays ? One day, we will know that the guy was not so much a warrior or rebel, but a commercial big dealer, as all big US brands, walking together, as all official unofficial swindle . We call that marketing ! How on a forum lite this that is becoming a trade/sale showcase ( when are we speaking about creativity or street art painting ? ) , we can still be abused by the hype. Where is the old guard ? and of course the new one ? this SF that you speak of is nothing like the real SF. You have no clue what your talking about in regards to how much of a great person he is and what greatness he does for his community and the world. if you had a oz of the generosity that he has you would be a much better for it. This mofo has been generous and kind since way before he had money. so what if he got lucky ( or he worked hard and made his luck) Good for him and better for the world becuase i know he uses his resources for good. I believe in free speech and the right for everyone to speak their mind, but Fuck You and the bullshit words that spew out your mouth like diarrhea. Generous with who ?! Rich people and collector as you ?!! Which vandal, kid can afford a tee or a print nowadays ?
Fuck yourself too, you don't impress me. Yesterday I was saying the contrary ! We have to think and to stop hype and media !
Hard workers, teens with no jobs or poor and humble people are working hard too, and has still nothing at the end of their life ! Dying as miserable unknown guys ! Your condescending and agressive answer is a shame !
People cannot change with the time ? Shepard is the Saint ? The Dalaï-lama ? Somed by the past were so loved, that people called them " the little father of peoples "..
History shows us that a lot, artists or not, are changing times passing by, and not in the good way .. It's an insult to people, ordinary people, treated all over the world as shit since decades and centuries ! Amen
I would like to say, at the end.. Obey, the brand or S.F, you will never change ( the smell of money - as a lot of galeries you are working with etc.. as IG per example, all your ed. number on line are wrong and dishonest - maybe in fact, ( we all critized bots and unknown hackers or not) that only 10 % or less were on line ! I did not said, F.. , or treatin him as a commercial flipper ! But, years after years, clothes after clothes, tees etc, very expensive for kids, marketing etc and hype prints, we will have one day to say to question ourselves and to say stop ! No more lies ! Yesterday I was saying ( it happens sometimes ) the contrary, but the S.F. of today, has nothing anymore to see with the agitator of yesterday, filmed in Exit Through the Gift Shop ! At the contrary of Supreme ( sic ) why S.F. , still leave bots acting ( double sic ) nowadays ? One day, we will know that the guy was not so much a warrior or rebel, but a commercial big dealer, as all big US brands, walking together, as all official unofficial swindle . We call that marketing ! How on a forum lite this that is becoming a trade/sale showcase ( when are we speaking about creativity or street art painting ? ) , we can still be abused by the hype. Where is the old guard ? and of course the new one ? this SF that you speak of is nothing like the real SF. You have no clue what your talking about in regards to how much of a great person he is and what greatness he does for his community and the world. if you had a oz of the generosity that he has you would be a much better for it. This mofo has been generous and kind since way before he had money. so what if he got lucky ( or he worked hard and made his luck) Good for him and better for the world becuase i know he uses his resources for good. I believe in free speech and the right for everyone to speak their mind, but Fuck You and the bullshit words that spew out your mouth like diarrhea. Generous with who ?! Rich people and collector as you ?!! Which vandal, kid can afford a tee or a print nowadays ?
Fuck yourself too, you don't impress me. Yesterday I was saying the contrary ! We have to think and to stop hype and media !
Hard workers, teens with no jobs or poor and humble people are working hard too, and has still nothing at the end of their life ! Dying as miserable unknown guys ! Your condescending and agressive answer is a shame !
People cannot change with the time ? Shepard is the Saint ? The Dalaï-lama ? Somed by the past were so loved, that people called them " the little father of peoples "..
History shows us that a lot, artists or not, are changing times passing by, and not in the good way .. It's an insult to people, ordinary people, treated all over the world as shit since decades and centuries ! Amen
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New Shepard Fairey, The High Cost of Free SpeechPrint, by Lroy on Mar 9, 2021 20:15:25 GMT 1, you are a fan of Kaws?
damned, all is said.
Good night
close properly your safe vvk
you are a fan of Kaws?
damned, all is said.
Good night
close properly your safe vvk
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New Shepard Fairey, The High Cost of Free SpeechPrint, by clueless on Mar 9, 2021 20:15:26 GMT 1, As normal, sold in 30 seconds and 31 of them on eBay within 5 minutes. 
As normal, sold in 30 seconds and 31 of them on eBay within 5 minutes. More like 100+... then they realized that this image won't flip so you can almost find them for retail price now. |
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New Shepard Fairey, The High Cost of Free SpeechPrint, by The Fool on Mar 9, 2021 20:35:09 GMT 1, Let's keep the tones down guys. Here are my points: a. Many of SF works revenue goes into charities/associations etc - TRUE. b. Shep webstore sucks - TRUE c. Shep doing a lot to prevent the bots - FALSE d. Everyone has noticed something fishy going on - TRUE e. Is likely SF giving a big % in presales to people/galleries etc? - LIKELY YES f. Is SF pointing to the quality of his drops? - FALSE g. Is SF pointing to the quantity of his drops? - TRUE h. Is SF aligned to his explicitly public ideals? - FALSE I. Is SF at the end of the day a business owner with bills and people to pay? - TRUE l. Is SF keeping prices low? TRUE So, long story short, let's not hide behind a finger. We all know this market and how it works. Important thing for me is not to BS all the simple fans and people that would like to get a print.
"c. Shep doing a lot to prevent the bots - FALSE"
You think Shep isn't doing a lot to prevent bots? On the RBG drop last week it asked what her birth year was. I think people forget that he has millions of fans going for a very very small number of prints.
"f. Is SF pointing to the quality of his drops? - FALSE
g. Is SF pointing to the quantity of his drops? - TRUE"
-Not sure I'm following here? Are you saying that he is increasing the quantity but not the quality? his prints are always top notch and consistently printed great. over the past few years he's increased the number of colors and been using metallics more than in the past?
"h. Is SF aligned to his explicitly public ideals? - FALSE"
-How is he not aligned with his ideals?
Let's keep the tones down guys. Here are my points: a. Many of SF works revenue goes into charities/associations etc - TRUE. b. Shep webstore sucks - TRUE c. Shep doing a lot to prevent the bots - FALSE d. Everyone has noticed something fishy going on - TRUE e. Is likely SF giving a big % in presales to people/galleries etc? - LIKELY YES f. Is SF pointing to the quality of his drops? - FALSE g. Is SF pointing to the quantity of his drops? - TRUE h. Is SF aligned to his explicitly public ideals? - FALSE I. Is SF at the end of the day a business owner with bills and people to pay? - TRUE l. Is SF keeping prices low? TRUE So, long story short, let's not hide behind a finger. We all know this market and how it works. Important thing for me is not to BS all the simple fans and people that would like to get a print. "c. Shep doing a lot to prevent the bots - FALSE" You think Shep isn't doing a lot to prevent bots? On the RBG drop last week it asked what her birth year was. I think people forget that he has millions of fans going for a very very small number of prints. "f. Is SF pointing to the quality of his drops? - FALSE g. Is SF pointing to the quantity of his drops? - TRUE" -Not sure I'm following here? Are you saying that he is increasing the quantity but not the quality? his prints are always top notch and consistently printed great. over the past few years he's increased the number of colors and been using metallics more than in the past? "h. Is SF aligned to his explicitly public ideals? - FALSE" -How is he not aligned with his ideals? |
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New Shepard Fairey, The High Cost of Free SpeechPrint, by Lroy on Mar 9, 2021 20:36:36 GMT 1, you are a fan of Kaws? damned, all is said. Good night close properly your safe vvk Basic! Yes, if you want... Basic instinct, not the movie, too many filters and beautiful people, street instinct. The real one. Who can afford a Kaws, tell me ? an artoyz , I bought kind of that to my kid when he was 6, for his toy collection. Yes I a m a basic mann that never likes Kaws anyway... Times to grow and to don't speak only about money and investments. ( just my thoughts ( sic ) , you do whant you want or need )
you are a fan of Kaws? damned, all is said. Good night close properly your safe vvk Basic! Yes, if you want... Basic instinct, not the movie, too many filters and beautiful people, street instinct. The real one. Who can afford a Kaws, tell me ? an artoyz , I bought kind of that to my kid when he was 6, for his toy collection. Yes I a m a basic mann that never likes Kaws anyway... Times to grow and to don't speak only about money and investments. ( just my thoughts ( sic ) , you do whant you want or need )
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New Shepard Fairey, The High Cost of Free SpeechPrint, by Lroy on Mar 9, 2021 20:39:07 GMT 1, anyway forget it.
I don't care.
Trolls before all !
( say it again ; " basic " )
anyway forget it.
I don't care.
Trolls before all !
( say it again ; " basic " )
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New Shepard Fairey, The High Cost of Free SpeechPrint, by vvk on Mar 9, 2021 20:40:20 GMT 1, you are a fan of Kaws? damned, all is said. Good night close properly your safe vvk
you are a fan of Kaws? damned, all is said. Good night close properly your safe vvk you dont have the balls nec to come after my safe. Come on, I dare you chap. |
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New Shepard Fairey, The High Cost of Free SpeechPrint, by Lroy on Mar 9, 2021 20:59:55 GMT 1, you are a fan of Kaws? damned, all is said. Good night close properly your safe vvk you dont have the balls nec to come after my safe. Come on, I dare you chap. "Balls ", lol !! Take your water plastic gun buddy !
You are a caricature of a certain American people who buy Fairey and voted Trump ! Bollocks, I don't care of yourself, of your safe, of Obey etc..
My friends are gypsies ! and we do'nt care of all !
I like Obey, I just don't like this system, be a bit clever poseur ! Yes, i have a lot ( lol, 5 ) of prints of Obey : all bought at the secondary a market, on ebay ( rythmes obey/ebay ) for 5x the price, as they all have contracts with obey firm. Anyway I bought them coz I like them. Very expensive indeed, at the secondary market.
Just because of people like you that are buying them at costs, not because of your botrs but, your relation... Disgusting and hypocrit managment.
edit : only 5 or 10 % of Obey prints are taking value with age.. Most of them are window dressing and not worth a nail. I still do like SF and Obey and I still don't like you, wanker.
Gimme a Tox !
you are a fan of Kaws? damned, all is said. Good night close properly your safe vvk you dont have the balls nec to come after my safe. Come on, I dare you chap. "Balls ", lol !! Take your water plastic gun buddy !
You are a caricature of a certain American people who buy Fairey and voted Trump ! Bollocks, I don't care of yourself, of your safe, of Obey etc..
My friends are gypsies ! and we do'nt care of all !
I like Obey, I just don't like this system, be a bit clever poseur ! Yes, i have a lot ( lol, 5 ) of prints of Obey : all bought at the secondary a market, on ebay ( rythmes obey/ebay ) for 5x the price, as they all have contracts with obey firm. Anyway I bought them coz I like them. Very expensive indeed, at the secondary market.
Just because of people like you that are buying them at costs, not because of your botrs but, your relation... Disgusting and hypocrit managment.
edit : only 5 or 10 % of Obey prints are taking value with age.. Most of them are window dressing and not worth a nail. I still do like SF and Obey and I still don't like you, wanker.
Gimme a Tox !
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New Shepard Fairey, The High Cost of Free SpeechPrint, by vvk on Mar 9, 2021 21:09:17 GMT 1, you dont have the balls nec to come after my safe. Come on, I dare you chap. "Balls ", lol !! Take your water plastic gun buddy !
Gimme a Tox !
you dont have the balls nec to come after my safe. Come on, I dare you chap. "Balls ", lol !! Take your water plastic gun buddy !
Gimme a Tox !
forget the tox, Ill give you the Big D to the mouth. |
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New Shepard Fairey, The High Cost of Free SpeechPrint, by Lroy on Mar 9, 2021 21:15:46 GMT 1, "Balls ", lol !! Take your water plastic gun buddy !
You are a caricature of a certain American people who buy Fairey and voted Trump ! Bollocks, I don't care of yourself, of your safe, of Obey etc..
My friends are gypsies ! and we do'nt care of all !
I like Obey, I just don't like this system, be a bit clever poseur ! Yes, i have a lot ( lol, 5 ) of prints of Obey : all bought at the secondary a market, on ebay ( rythmes obey/ebay ) for 5x the price, as they all have contracts with obey firm. Anyway I bought them coz I like them. Very expensive indeed, at the secondary market.
Just because of people like you that are buying them at costs, not because of your botrs but, your relation... Disgusting and hypocrit managment.
edit : only 5 or 10 % of Obey prints are taking value with age.. Most of them are window dressing and not worth a nail. I still do like SF and Obey and I still don't like you, wanker.
Gimme a Tox !
I have over 40 obey prints and got more than half direct from obey, the others on secondary. Without making an judjment : you have bots ? Friend in Obey family ?
I always tried, vever caught one - as this Itinerance Galery ghost one... Anyway, you are a good and trusted member, so good for you. I m just telling the truth, taht's all. Peace.
Ordinary people can't catch an obey, as for Supreme ( what a comparison ). Ask the forum..
I have an attic computer with Xp, and a shitty phone, so maybe that's the answer.. Good luck !
"Balls ", lol !! Take your water plastic gun buddy !
You are a caricature of a certain American people who buy Fairey and voted Trump ! Bollocks, I don't care of yourself, of your safe, of Obey etc..
My friends are gypsies ! and we do'nt care of all !
I like Obey, I just don't like this system, be a bit clever poseur ! Yes, i have a lot ( lol, 5 ) of prints of Obey : all bought at the secondary a market, on ebay ( rythmes obey/ebay ) for 5x the price, as they all have contracts with obey firm. Anyway I bought them coz I like them. Very expensive indeed, at the secondary market.
Just because of people like you that are buying them at costs, not because of your botrs but, your relation... Disgusting and hypocrit managment.
edit : only 5 or 10 % of Obey prints are taking value with age.. Most of them are window dressing and not worth a nail. I still do like SF and Obey and I still don't like you, wanker.
Gimme a Tox !
I have over 40 obey prints and got more than half direct from obey, the others on secondary. Without making an judjment : you have bots ? Friend in Obey family ?
I always tried, vever caught one - as this Itinerance Galery ghost one... Anyway, you are a good and trusted member, so good for you. I m just telling the truth, taht's all. Peace.
Ordinary people can't catch an obey, as for Supreme ( what a comparison ). Ask the forum..
I have an attic computer with Xp, and a shitty phone, so maybe that's the answer.. Good luck !
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New Shepard Fairey, The High Cost of Free SpeechPrint, by Lroy on Mar 9, 2021 21:16:51 GMT 1, "Balls ", lol !! Take your water plastic gun buddy !
Gimme a Tox !
forget the tox, Ill give you the Big D to the mouth.
"Balls ", lol !! Take your water plastic gun buddy !
Gimme a Tox !
forget the tox, Ill give you the Big D to the mouth. ahaha I saw this one ! hard to catch and to pay ! europe is old innit ? |
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New Shepard Fairey, The High Cost of Free SpeechPrint, by Lroy on Mar 9, 2021 22:03:23 GMT 1, Without making an judjment : you have bots ? Friend in Obey family ?
I always tried, vever caught one - as this Itinerance Galery ghost one... Anyway, you are a good and trusted member, so good for you. I m just telling the truth, taht's all. Peace.
Ordinary people can't catch an obey, as for Supreme ( what a comparison ). Ask the forum..
I have an attic computer with Xp, and a shitty phone, so maybe that's the answer.. Good luck !
Ordered them all by hand, no bots. I was working on a bot but never finished it since it doesn't really seem to matter.
Without making an judjment : you have bots ? Friend in Obey family ?
I always tried, vever caught one - as this Itinerance Galery ghost one... Anyway, you are a good and trusted member, so good for you. I m just telling the truth, taht's all. Peace.
Ordinary people can't catch an obey, as for Supreme ( what a comparison ). Ask the forum..
I have an attic computer with Xp, and a shitty phone, so maybe that's the answer.. Good luck !
Ordered them all by hand, no bots. I was working on a bot but never finished it since it doesn't really seem to matter. Thank you. Maybe you are living in the USA ? |
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New Shepard Fairey, The High Cost of Free SpeechPrint, by clueless on Mar 9, 2021 22:17:33 GMT 1, "c. Shep doing a lot to prevent the bots - FALSE" You think Shep isn't doing a lot to prevent bots? On the RBG drop last week it asked what her birth year was. I think people forget that he has millions of fans going for a very very small number of prints. "f. Is SF pointing to the quality of his drops? - FALSE g. Is SF pointing to the quantity of his drops? - TRUE" -Not sure I'm following here? Are you saying that he is increasing the quantity but not the quality? his prints are always top notch and consistently printed great. over the past few years he's increased the number of colors and been using metallics more than in the past? "h. Is SF aligned to his explicitly public ideals? - FALSE" -How is he not aligned with his ideals? Again, it's just my opinions but "c. Shep doing a lot to prevent the bots - FALSE" You think Shep isn't doing a lot to prevent bots? On the RBG drop last week it asked what her birth year was. I think people forget that he has millions of fans going for a very very small number of prints. So you think that 450-500 people have got the right year+2 captcha + payment in 2 seconds? C'moon. And the second round the same (ok easier question) but same process and timing. ALSO: the two editions were under the same page address, meaning that they knew already that the first edition (reg 18x24) were all sold out already, so no checking of bots/flippers etc was necessary. The print has not come back up after few days as they usually do for cancelled orders etc. Long story short: all the RBGs were already allocated. Maybe a small % was given on the website.
If they didn't care, they wouldn't have spent money on various potential bot prevention methods offered by Shopify over the past year.
Bots just seem to keep up the same oppositional pace.
"c. Shep doing a lot to prevent the bots - FALSE" You think Shep isn't doing a lot to prevent bots? On the RBG drop last week it asked what her birth year was. I think people forget that he has millions of fans going for a very very small number of prints. "f. Is SF pointing to the quality of his drops? - FALSE g. Is SF pointing to the quantity of his drops? - TRUE" -Not sure I'm following here? Are you saying that he is increasing the quantity but not the quality? his prints are always top notch and consistently printed great. over the past few years he's increased the number of colors and been using metallics more than in the past? "h. Is SF aligned to his explicitly public ideals? - FALSE" -How is he not aligned with his ideals? Again, it's just my opinions but "c. Shep doing a lot to prevent the bots - FALSE" You think Shep isn't doing a lot to prevent bots? On the RBG drop last week it asked what her birth year was. I think people forget that he has millions of fans going for a very very small number of prints. So you think that 450-500 people have got the right year+2 captcha + payment in 2 seconds? C'moon. And the second round the same (ok easier question) but same process and timing. ALSO: the two editions were under the same page address, meaning that they knew already that the first edition (reg 18x24) were all sold out already, so no checking of bots/flippers etc was necessary. The print has not come back up after few days as they usually do for cancelled orders etc. Long story short: all the RBGs were already allocated. Maybe a small % was given on the website. That's not the same. They are doing a lot to stop the bots. Whether they are effective or not is not the issue at hand. Someone said that OG Team/Shep doesn't care about stopping bots - which is FALSE - proven by them adding in Hcaptcha services AND a question in order to thwart the bots even more. If they didn't care, they wouldn't have spent money on various potential bot prevention methods offered by Shopify over the past year. Bots just seem to keep up the same oppositional pace. |
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New Shepard Fairey, The High Cost of Free SpeechPrint, by Newar on Mar 10, 2021 6:54:17 GMT 1, It's worst flipper does think this one can be the next Marianne 
It's worst flipper does think this one can be the next Marianne |
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New Shepard Fairey, The High Cost of Free SpeechPrint, by That Print Guy on Mar 10, 2021 6:58:14 GMT 1, That's not the same. They are doing a lot to stop the bots. Whether they are effective or not is not the issue at hand. Someone said that OG Team/Shep doesn't care about stopping bots - which is FALSE - proven by them adding in Hcaptcha services AND a question in order to thwart the bots even more. If they didn't care, they wouldn't have spent money on various potential bot prevention methods offered by Shopify over the past year. Bots just seem to keep up the same oppositional pace. It's not the way to stop flippers. If the print is called "A way to stop flippers", best way to avoid flippers is to change the name of the web page and not call it "products/a-way-to-stop-flippers". If you add 56 captchas, you also stop regular people from getting it. Also, why don't they support faster and safer payments than Paypal (which sucks). They only have Paypal or credit card (that bots pre-fill). With all the money they make each time, they have nobody to check orders, addresses, ebay etc? C/mon... and Shopify? The most useless and dumb customer service in the world? They blocked me because I had an autorefresh on and now I cannot use my ip address on the obey website. AT ALL. Easy to say, they have ZERO intention to stop the bots. Money gets in anyway, they pay the charities, it is all in the interest of SF id a print goes viral. I am surprised he's not yet with NFTs. Probably because timing & bots don't work with NFTs drops?
What platform do you recommend they sell on?
Wait no one uses a bot to buy an NFT 😂
That's not the same. They are doing a lot to stop the bots. Whether they are effective or not is not the issue at hand. Someone said that OG Team/Shep doesn't care about stopping bots - which is FALSE - proven by them adding in Hcaptcha services AND a question in order to thwart the bots even more. If they didn't care, they wouldn't have spent money on various potential bot prevention methods offered by Shopify over the past year. Bots just seem to keep up the same oppositional pace. It's not the way to stop flippers. If the print is called "A way to stop flippers", best way to avoid flippers is to change the name of the web page and not call it "products/a-way-to-stop-flippers". If you add 56 captchas, you also stop regular people from getting it. Also, why don't they support faster and safer payments than Paypal (which sucks). They only have Paypal or credit card (that bots pre-fill). With all the money they make each time, they have nobody to check orders, addresses, ebay etc? C/mon... and Shopify? The most useless and dumb customer service in the world? They blocked me because I had an autorefresh on and now I cannot use my ip address on the obey website. AT ALL. Easy to say, they have ZERO intention to stop the bots. Money gets in anyway, they pay the charities, it is all in the interest of SF id a print goes viral. I am surprised he's not yet with NFTs. Probably because timing & bots don't work with NFTs drops? What platform do you recommend they sell on? Wait no one uses a bot to buy an NFT 😂 |
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New Shepard Fairey, The High Cost of Free SpeechPrint, by Lroy on Mar 10, 2021 8:18:21 GMT 1, 101 copies ON EBAY (USA). People LOVE this print! D: D: So much done for the flippers, right?
Obey has always been the kingdom of flippers ( as supreme ) !
I bought all on them ( the day after the drop ) 5 or10 x the price, on eBay sellers galeries ( they had more than one, that’s why I don’t trust so much SF - no need to tell me « fuck you « again ) , this means that some prints are sold before the drop ( as for itinérance gallery last - no - drop ).
Bots are not only guilty.
Art bizness and Micmac ...
I don’t trust anybody in art market now, apart small editors as L13 etc ..
101 copies ON EBAY (USA). People LOVE this print! D: D: So much done for the flippers, right? Obey has always been the kingdom of flippers ( as supreme ) ! I bought all on them ( the day after the drop ) 5 or10 x the price, on eBay sellers galeries ( they had more than one, that’s why I don’t trust so much SF - no need to tell me « fuck you « again ) , this means that some prints are sold before the drop ( as for itinérance gallery last - no - drop ). Bots are not only guilty. Art bizness and Micmac ... I don’t trust anybody in art market now, apart small editors as L13 etc .. |
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New Shepard Fairey, The High Cost of Free SpeechPrint, by Lroy on Mar 10, 2021 9:05:43 GMT 1, i took it off @dmatt
i took it off @dmatt
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New Shepard Fairey, The High Cost of Free SpeechPrint, by filippobf on Mar 10, 2021 9:36:22 GMT 1, Nike can' to do nothing about BOT...
Do you really think is easy?
look here...
mostadvancedbot.com/products/obeygiant-bot
of course He created the bot so that he could then invest his money in new technologies like 5G petrol and weapons.
It seems to me that you attack it too unnecessarily, Shepard is the ONLY world-famous artist ANYONE can afford a $35 signed print. Can you tell me who else did this?
Any one of us who wakes up in the morning gets a job and takes money. That’s what Banksy and all the artists in the world do. Only saints don’t. Tell me the name of an artist who doesn’t work for money.. I have BLU from Italy. maybe he is a saint.
If you don’t like his art is fine but attacking him because he sells at low prices saying that he does it for money is madness.
Nike can' to do nothing about BOT... Do you really think is easy? look here... mostadvancedbot.com/products/obeygiant-botof course He created the bot so that he could then invest his money in new technologies like 5G petrol and weapons. It seems to me that you attack it too unnecessarily, Shepard is the ONLY world-famous artist ANYONE can afford a $35 signed print. Can you tell me who else did this? Any one of us who wakes up in the morning gets a job and takes money. That’s what Banksy and all the artists in the world do. Only saints don’t. Tell me the name of an artist who doesn’t work for money.. I have BLU from Italy. maybe he is a saint. If you don’t like his art is fine but attacking him because he sells at low prices saying that he does it for money is madness. |
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New Shepard Fairey, The High Cost of Free SpeechPrint, by Lroy on Mar 10, 2021 10:33:51 GMT 1, Nike can' to do nothing about BOT... Do you really think is easy? look here... mostadvancedbot.com/products/obeygiant-botof course He created the bot so that he could then invest his money in new technologies like 5G petrol and weapons. It seems to me that you attack it too unnecessarily, Shepard is the ONLY world-famous artist ANYONE can afford a $35 signed print. Can you tell me who else did this? Any one of us who wakes up in the morning gets a job and takes money. That’s what Banksy and all the artists in the world do. Only saints don’t. Tell me the name of an artist who doesn’t work for money.. I have BLU from Italy. maybe he is a saint. If you don’t like his art is fine but attacking him because he sells at low prices saying that he does it for money is madness. " It seems to me that you attack it too unnecessarily, Shepard is the ONLY world-famous artist ANYONE can afford a $35 signed print. Can you tell me who else did this? "
Why I can't get one the, ? since 2011, f5ing ? And it's not really true, the 35 $ ones are like giclee and unlimited.
on 2011 it was around 45, now its around 60 or 70 - last Marianne was at 95 - + Taxes and shipping. I mean try to catch his best and historic ones you ( I ) won't be able : as Protester, Queen, Marianne 1 and 2, etc...
Most of the times it's big editions : 450 to 600 or 800 ex... Signed ? What does it mean ? Most are signed by him or his crew
Even Berlin Tower ( I bought for my young kid as He was traveling there I had to buy on ebay, lol ! I paid it then 250 - not anymore 45 -, and It never took any value , you can still get it for 100/150 $ on ebay, mostly unsold )
Anyway, myabe I speak bad, I have nothing against SF, he is a legend and made a lot, it's a system that I denunce ( + Clothes , skate, etc etc .. not really prices for young kids ) ...
At the contrary, I think that he is a saint.
Nike can' to do nothing about BOT... Do you really think is easy? look here... mostadvancedbot.com/products/obeygiant-botof course He created the bot so that he could then invest his money in new technologies like 5G petrol and weapons. It seems to me that you attack it too unnecessarily, Shepard is the ONLY world-famous artist ANYONE can afford a $35 signed print. Can you tell me who else did this? Any one of us who wakes up in the morning gets a job and takes money. That’s what Banksy and all the artists in the world do. Only saints don’t. Tell me the name of an artist who doesn’t work for money.. I have BLU from Italy. maybe he is a saint. If you don’t like his art is fine but attacking him because he sells at low prices saying that he does it for money is madness. " It seems to me that you attack it too unnecessarily, Shepard is the ONLY world-famous artist ANYONE can afford a $35 signed print. Can you tell me who else did this? "
Why I can't get one the, ? since 2011, f5ing ? And it's not really true, the 35 $ ones are like giclee and unlimited.
on 2011 it was around 45, now its around 60 or 70 - last Marianne was at 95 - + Taxes and shipping. I mean try to catch his best and historic ones you ( I ) won't be able : as Protester, Queen, Marianne 1 and 2, etc...
Most of the times it's big editions : 450 to 600 or 800 ex... Signed ? What does it mean ? Most are signed by him or his crew
Even Berlin Tower ( I bought for my young kid as He was traveling there I had to buy on ebay, lol ! I paid it then 250 - not anymore 45 -, and It never took any value , you can still get it for 100/150 $ on ebay, mostly unsold )
Anyway, myabe I speak bad, I have nothing against SF, he is a legend and made a lot, it's a system that I denunce ( + Clothes , skate, etc etc .. not really prices for young kids ) ...
At the contrary, I think that he is a saint.
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New Shepard Fairey, The High Cost of Free SpeechPrint, by stuckeyc on Mar 10, 2021 12:24:13 GMT 1, As an "old guy" that has been collecting obey for about 15 years I agree its frustrating. I have gone from 100% success to a couple a year since the switch to shopify. The way to deal with it is refuse to buy anything for more than cost plus shipping for a year or so. Let the flipper/bots sit on the stock until they go away. The amount of undercutting is/will be a joy to watch. Plus you realize what ones you really want and I have been able to shift more to higher end pieces.
As an "old guy" that has been collecting obey for about 15 years I agree its frustrating. I have gone from 100% success to a couple a year since the switch to shopify. The way to deal with it is refuse to buy anything for more than cost plus shipping for a year or so. Let the flipper/bots sit on the stock until they go away. The amount of undercutting is/will be a joy to watch. Plus you realize what ones you really want and I have been able to shift more to higher end pieces.
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New Shepard Fairey, The High Cost of Free SpeechPrint, by filippobf on Mar 10, 2021 12:25:09 GMT 1, I don’t know what a fair price for young kids, but my 17-year-old brother dresses obey and has a $35 poster in his room signed by Shepard. No one is Saint in this land and the few who are do not make the life of an established artist. But SF does a lot of charities both by donating art and supporting foundations and things he believes in. I know that much of Obey’s turnover (if not all) is donated to charity. A friend of mine who helped him on the Moska Show told me that SF paints his walls is there with his staff although he should not be diabetic problems, but he do his murals all around the world. He founded a gallery where he promotes young artists. He founded a graphic studio where he employs many creative people. I think it is difficult to attack it just because its numbered prints have passed in the years from $ 50 to $ 75. even the milk has increased.(look at the price of similar artist...sometimes less less less famous)
so god save Shepard Fairey!
beacuse he's a fuking legend.. and the world sometimes need heros and legends.
PS. he signs everything with his hand because he is a serious person.
and if you meet it, sign whatever you want, because it is the only artist who gives the right value to a simple signature. It’s the painting that counts, not just the signature.
I don’t know what a fair price for young kids, but my 17-year-old brother dresses obey and has a $35 poster in his room signed by Shepard. No one is Saint in this land and the few who are do not make the life of an established artist. But SF does a lot of charities both by donating art and supporting foundations and things he believes in. I know that much of Obey’s turnover (if not all) is donated to charity. A friend of mine who helped him on the Moska Show told me that SF paints his walls is there with his staff although he should not be diabetic problems, but he do his murals all around the world. He founded a gallery where he promotes young artists. He founded a graphic studio where he employs many creative people. I think it is difficult to attack it just because its numbered prints have passed in the years from $ 50 to $ 75. even the milk has increased.(look at the price of similar artist...sometimes less less less famous)
so god save Shepard Fairey!
beacuse he's a fuking legend.. and the world sometimes need heros and legends.
PS. he signs everything with his hand because he is a serious person.
and if you meet it, sign whatever you want, because it is the only artist who gives the right value to a simple signature. It’s the painting that counts, not just the signature.
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