[Artsy 1]

Jun 23, 2021 17:15:05 GMT 1 startimeash said:

Jun 23, 2021 16:17:54 GMT 1 Artsy 1 said:

Hi I work in tech and could set up a monitor which alerts you instantly when its in stock if that would be helpfull. I want the piece myself anyway so i will build one for myself. 

Page Monitor on Chrome does that for you

Page monitor on chrome is not even remotely close. You can be cached and will be delayed. 

[startimeash]

Jun 23, 2021 22:27:00 GMT 1 Artsy 1 said:

Jun 23, 2021 17:15:05 GMT 1 startimeash said:

Page Monitor on Chrome does that for you

Page monitor on chrome is not even remotely close. You can be cached and will be delayed. 

I’m interested in how exactly you are going to get a more up to date output than Page Monitor without your connection requests being rate limited? Anything more than a request a minute and any decent host is going to start dropping your requests.

[Artsy 1]

Jun 24, 2021 10:39:38 GMT 1 startimeash said:

Jun 23, 2021 22:27:00 GMT 1 Artsy 1 said:

Page monitor on chrome is not even remotely close. You can be cached and will be delayed. 

I’m interested in how exactly you are going to get a more up to date output than Page Monitor without your connection requests being rate limited? Anything more than a request a minute and any decent host is going to start dropping your requests.

I will firstly find the stock end point and see if i can find a simple cache bypass. If not ill just run 200/300 proxies so i can run a request every second without getting rate limited. I have these built already for hundreds of sites. 

[Terry Fuckwitt]

Jun 24, 2021 13:12:56 GMT 1 Artsy 1 said:

Jun 24, 2021 10:39:38 GMT 1 startimeash said:

I’m interested in how exactly you are going to get a more up to date output than Page Monitor without your connection requests being rate limited? Anything more than a request a minute and any decent host is going to start dropping your requests.

I will firstly find the stock end point and see if i can find a simple cache bypass. If not ill just run 200/300 proxies so i can run a request every second without getting rate limited. I have these built already for hundreds of sites. 

That seems like a lot of effort... I'll have my fingers crossed for you that you score these sought after masterpieces.

[Artsy 1]

Jun 24, 2021 13:23:05 GMT 1 Terry Fuckwitt said:

Jun 24, 2021 13:12:56 GMT 1 Artsy 1 said:

I will firstly find the stock end point and see if i can find a simple cache bypass. If not ill just run 200/300 proxies so i can run a request every second without getting rate limited. I have these built already for hundreds of sites. 

That seems like a lot of effort... I'll have my fingers crossed for you that you score these sought after masterpieces.

It's actually very easy. Thanks a lot, i am really hoping i some how manage to pick them up for my office. Good luck if you go for them.

[Terry Fuckwitt]

Jun 24, 2021 13:25:49 GMT 1 Artsy 1 said:

Jun 24, 2021 13:23:05 GMT 1 Terry Fuckwitt said:

That seems like a lot of effort... I'll have my fingers crossed for you that you score these sought after masterpieces.

It's actually very easy. Thanks a lot, i am really hoping i some how manage to pick them up for my office. Good luck if you go for them.

Fair enough, it sounds far too techie for me.
I think I'll pass this time though

[FЯ]

Boomer central in here.

Shouldn't you be voting wrong  / rolling a fag or something 

[startimeash]

Jun 24, 2021 13:12:56 GMT 1 Artsy 1 said:

Jun 24, 2021 10:39:38 GMT 1 startimeash said:

I’m interested in how exactly you are going to get a more up to date output than Page Monitor without your connection requests being rate limited? Anything more than a request a minute and any decent host is going to start dropping your requests.

I will firstly find the stock end point and see if i can find a simple cache bypass. If not ill just run 200/300 proxies so i can run a request every second without getting rate limited. I have these built already for hundreds of sites. 

Which cache are you referring to? If it's the site Squid or Varnish cache then how are you going to trigger a remote refresh? Your local cache you can certainly refresh, but that doesn't really help. And these proxies, what are you running them on? You'll need a separate IP for each, or it's pointless, and you'll be connecting to the same URL as well, so any decent admin is going to see that as well and either blacklist or rate limit those IPs, as you're using their bandwidth. At a minimum you're going to be setting off alarms all over the shop in their SIEM system. In fact I would probably classify that as a DDoS attack. Not a very efficient one, but still...

This sort of log and connection management is central to my doctoral research question; I'm starting that in February, so it'd be good to hear exactly how you plan on doing the above...

[startimeash]

Jun 24, 2021 14:22:45 GMT 1 derivitive said:

Jun 24, 2021 14:15:38 GMT 1 startimeash said:

Which cache are you referring to? If it's the site Squid or Varnish cache then how are you going to trigger a remote refresh? Your local cache you can certainly refresh, but that doesn't really help. And these proxies, what are you running them on? You'll need a separate IP for each, or it's pointless, and you'll be connecting to the same URL as well, so any decent admin is going to see that as well and either blacklist or rate limit those IPs, as you're using their bandwidth. At a minimum you're going to be setting off alarms all over the shop in their SIEM system. In fact I would probably classify that as a DDoS attack. Not a very efficient one, but still...

This sort of log and connection management is central to my doctoral research question; I'm starting that in February, so it'd be good to hear exactly how you plan on doing the above...

. A proxy will mask/NAT your IP to what the proxy source IP is, similar to a VPN but only forcing browser traffic. There is still going to be overhead to establish the connection.

It wouldn't be a DDOS as the frequency isn't enough. You're also talking about a webserver for e-commerce. Nothing is going to set off any flags or alerts assuming what the guy is saying is even possible.

It would be no different than having 60 random machines refreshing the second at one minute intervals, but each one is operating one second after the other.

Yeah, I know, I've been in IT security for years. I worked for a SIEM provider for 6 of those, and that many requests to a single URL over 60 seconds, above the normal traffic that is benchmarked, will definitely set of alarms, as it's an anomalous pattern. With regards to the proxies, you could spoof the IP address, but by doing that you're not going to get a response from the server as it won't be sent to your actual IP. So you'd need access to at least 60+ routable proxies, hosted *somewhere*.  The DDOS comment was a flippant one, but the principle is the same, as this traffic would be anomalous over the baseline that the server usually sees.

[startimeash]

Jun 24, 2021 14:37:05 GMT 1 derivitive said:

Jun 24, 2021 14:32:40 GMT 1 startimeash said:

Yeah, I know, I've been in IT security for years. I worked for a SIEM provider for 6 of those, and that many requests to a single URL over 60 seconds, above the normal traffic that is benchmarked, will definitely set of alarms, as it's an anomalous pattern. With regards to the proxies, you could spoof the IP address, but by doing that you're not going to get a response from the server as it won't be sent to your actual IP. So you'd need access to at least 60+ routable proxies, hosted *somewhere*.  The DDOS comment was a flippant one, but the principle is the same, as this traffic would be anomalous over the baseline that the server usually sees.

You're missing that it's an ecommerce site. Loading the main page or a new product page isn't anomalous behavior. Hitting the admin page, trying to find ports outside of 443, or generating 404 responses, would be anomalous.

It would definitely be anomalous if you have a benchmark of 10 requests a minute, and all of a sudden you are getting 70+. If it were a huge site like Amazon then yeah, sure, but I doubt Blok is getting even 10 requests a minute to an individual page. The SIEM baseline will be based on that, so when Billy-Big-Balls and his proxies starts firing an extra request a second then it will definitely get flagged. Of course, Blok may be seeing insane amounts of traffic over the weeks you're building the baseline, but I would bet that his individual item pages are getting hit at less than 10 impressions a minute.

[iamzero]

Has this become a pissing contest for gobbledegook… it’s brilliant. Very Sheldon… Bazinga.

[FЯ]

2 Hours til drop insta saying demand high so interesting to see if any go online

[forcedtojoin]

These will brick like the higgs prints prolly being cooked by the same dudes.

[FЯ]

Jealous gallery?

[Black Wolf]

🤞🤞 going for purple, anyone land the other colours and have regrets message me please!!

[BANK OF ENGLAND 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿]

Selling set of four. $1 USD

[amz]

After reading all of that I feel like I’m on an IT forum 😅

Anyway good luck to everyone going for these at 5. Personally going for a blue or purple. Will definitely be a nice piece to put up with the sun coming back.

[Alchemy Art]

How can I block this thread

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Jun 25, 2021 16:47:23 GMT 1 Alchemy Art said:

How can I block this thread

What is this bollocks? Someone’s pulling a swift one here!!!

[Lroy]

No money
Not for me.
These artists and galeries can’t wait payday

[FЯ]

Already up

www.toxicpublishing.com/shop

[forcedtojoin]

Those did not exactly fly off the shelves.

[FЯ]

Did you try to checkout, sold out ages ago.
Likely all gone to the next art collectors on social media.

[Hobby Artist]

Sold out within 3 minutes (first the orange one was gone) ...

[Rubberneck]

Best to sign up both Blok and Toxic's mailing lists to get advance notice if they give it next time.

[digitalkid]

What a sh!t show.

Print in cart - paying with CC - sorry all prints now sold out. WTF

[neal]

I managed to pick one up in purple, refreshed at 1 sec after 5 and managed to cart and check out with no issues. It’s a fun print that’ll find a space somewhere to hang…

[wazzerfpv]

Did everyone get a email. I managed to get all 4 checked out and money has left my bank but not had any sort of confirmation come through as of yet

[forcedtojoin]

Jun 25, 2021 17:14:42 GMT 1 neal said:

I managed to pick one up in purple, refreshed at 1 sec after 5 and managed to cart and check out with no issues. It’s a fun print that’ll find a space somewhere to hang…

yep . took a min but you should get an email from toxic. 

[neal]

Yup, reply email within 30 secs, but I was checked out by 5:01. Maybe a bit of a delay as the rest of the orders hit the system?