Rude Copper
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For sale Banksy Nola white, by Rude Copper on Dec 17, 2020 15:22:57 GMT 1, Selling a Nola on behalf of a friend,
Print is in mint condition, itโs in storage at the moment, but Iโll be able to post pictures next week.
Has full pc certification & owner is the original purchaser.
Based in London but happy to ship worldwide,
Best offers please, no lowballs, this isnโt a fire sale,
My friend just thinks itโs the right time to sell
Thanks
Selling a Nola on behalf of a friend,
Print is in mint condition, itโs in storage at the moment, but Iโll be able to post pictures next week.
Has full pc certification & owner is the original purchaser.
Based in London but happy to ship worldwide,
Best offers please, no lowballs, this isnโt a fire sale,
My friend just thinks itโs the right time to sell
Thanks
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startimeash
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For sale Banksy Nola white, by startimeash on Dec 17, 2020 15:28:06 GMT 1, Can't wait to see the pics - gonna be far too rich for my blood (unless your mate fancies making a massive philanthropic gesture), but good luck with the sale!
Can't wait to see the pics - gonna be far too rich for my blood (unless your mate fancies making a massive philanthropic gesture), but good luck with the sale!
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njr911
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For sale Banksy Nola white, by njr911 on Dec 17, 2020 15:31:45 GMT 1, Original owner, going to get a big tax bill 
Original owner, going to get a big tax bill |
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Easy-Z
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Do you recon one day Banksy will read this and send you a Nola in the post? |
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Easy-Z
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For sale Banksy Nola white, by Easy-Z on Dec 17, 2020 15:41:18 GMT 1, Do you recon one day Banksy will read this and send you a Nola in the post? 
But it sure would be lovely! I'd sign a will never sell agreement in a heartbeat!
Do you recon one day Banksy will read this and send you a Nola in the post? With how much I self promote, and the people in the Banksy circle I have met, I have to assume Banksy already knows. So my guess would be a big fat no But it sure would be lovely! I'd sign a will never sell agreement in a heartbeat! |
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Winter
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For sale Banksy Nola white, by Winter on Dec 17, 2020 15:55:57 GMT 1, Where are these price-wise these days? ยฃ120k+?
Where are these price-wise these days? ยฃ120k+?
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Forbidden Love
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For sale Banksy Nola white, by Forbidden Love on Dec 17, 2020 16:19:15 GMT 1, Where are these price-wise these days? ยฃ120k+?
has to be higher surely. God it's been a crazy year.
Where are these price-wise these days? ยฃ120k+? has to be higher surely. God it's been a crazy year. |
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teabaggins
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For sale Banksy Nola white, by teabaggins on Dec 17, 2020 16:24:56 GMT 1, Do you recon one day Banksy will read this and send you a Nola in the post?ย With how much I self promote, and the people in the Banksy circle I have met, I have to assume Banksy already knows. So my guess would be a big fat no But it sure would be lovely! I'd sign a will never sell agreement in a heartbeat!ย
Dont need a print when you have the original. ๐
Do you recon one day Banksy will read this and send you a Nola in the post?ย With how much I self promote, and the people in the Banksy circle I have met, I have to assume Banksy already knows. So my guess would be a big fat no But it sure would be lovely! I'd sign a will never sell agreement in a heartbeat!ย Dont need a print when you have the original. ๐ |
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Easy-Z
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For sale Banksy Nola white, by Easy-Z on Dec 17, 2020 16:49:09 GMT 1, With how much I self promote, and the people in the Banksy circle I have met, I have to assume Banksy already knows. So my guess would be a big fat no But it sure would be lovely! I'd sign a will never sell agreement in a heartbeat! Dont need a print when you have the original. ๐
With how much I self promote, and the people in the Banksy circle I have met, I have to assume Banksy already knows. So my guess would be a big fat no But it sure would be lovely! I'd sign a will never sell agreement in a heartbeat! Dont need a print when you have the original. ๐ The original is on the street where it belongs, and though I take great pleasure in taking care of it, a print on the wall would be lovely as well |
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mlyelmk
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For sale Banksy Nola white, by mlyelmk on Dec 17, 2020 16:55:02 GMT 1, GLWTS
GLWTS
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Easy-Z
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For sale Banksy Nola white, by Easy-Z on Dec 17, 2020 17:09:03 GMT 1, rudecopper- Don't mean to hijack your thread. But at least we are keeping it high on the queue.
Thought I would share this as well.
It is not only a super well known Banksy, it is very important to New Orleans.
It truly represents how the levees were supposed to keep the city safe and dry and how they failed.
Every time I am out there cleaning her up or replacing the polycarbonate a dozen people stop and thank me.
Everyone from tourists, homeless, police, and neighbors.
It is also a big tourist stop and I now have friends that run a graffiti tour that end the day there.
So I hope I can help keep her around for a long long time.
rudecopper- Don't mean to hijack your thread. But at least we are keeping it high on the queue.
Thought I would share this as well.
It is not only a super well known Banksy, it is very important to New Orleans.
It truly represents how the levees were supposed to keep the city safe and dry and how they failed.
Every time I am out there cleaning her up or replacing the polycarbonate a dozen people stop and thank me.
Everyone from tourists, homeless, police, and neighbors.
It is also a big tourist stop and I now have friends that run a graffiti tour that end the day there.
So I hope I can help keep her around for a long long time.
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sfnyc
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For sale Banksy Nola white, by sfnyc on Dec 18, 2020 4:36:52 GMT 1, Someone launch a gofundme to buy Easy-Z a Nola print please?
Someone launch a gofundme to buy Easy-Z a Nola print please?
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esfer
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For sale Banksy Nola white, by esfer on Dec 21, 2020 11:01:32 GMT 1,
Thank you for your hard work. Nice of you to take your time to keep this piece available for others to view,in the original state...I actually prefer the original much to the printed version.
Thank you for your hard work. Nice of you to take your time to keep this piece available for others to view,in the original state...I actually prefer the original much to the printed version. |
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isbdellll
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For sale Banksy Nola white, by isbdellll on Dec 21, 2020 12:12:54 GMT 1, Original owner, going to get a big tax bill
Why would you have to pay tax on art? I have never paid tax on any art i have sold and i never will. Can you explain, thanks x
Original owner, going to get a big tax bill Why would you have to pay tax on art? I have never paid tax on any art i have sold and i never will. Can you explain, thanks x |
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Hubble Bubble
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For sale Banksy Nola white, by Hubble Bubble on Dec 21, 2020 12:15:33 GMT 1, Original owner, going to get a big tax bill Why would you have to pay tax on art? I have never paid tax on any art i have sold and i never will. Can you explain, thanks x
Original owner, going to get a big tax bill Why would you have to pay tax on art? I have never paid tax on any art i have sold and i never will. Can you explain, thanks x Capital Gains tax based on the profit made on something if it exceeds the annual allowance |
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isbdellll
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For sale Banksy Nola white, by isbdellll on Dec 21, 2020 12:20:38 GMT 1, Wow and its up to 12k only ! greedy. I would not declare it, I feel art collectors pay enough already considering vat / tax / shipping and of course many losses on art purchases anyway. 
Wow and its up to 12k only ! greedy. I would not declare it, I feel art collectors pay enough already considering vat / tax / shipping and of course many losses on art purchases anyway. |
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orchid
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For sale Banksy Nola white, by orchid on Dec 21, 2020 12:26:32 GMT 1, Wow and its up to 12k only ! greedy. I would not declare it, I feel art collectors pay enough already considering vat / tax / shipping and of course many losses on art purchases anyway.
Hmrc will take interest in this if they see it. Woops!
Wow and its up to 12k only ! greedy. I would not declare it, I feel art collectors pay enough already considering vat / tax / shipping and of course many losses on art purchases anyway. Hmrc will take interest in this if they see it. Woops! |
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Winter
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For sale Banksy Nola white, by Winter on Dec 21, 2020 12:28:11 GMT 1, If you complete a tax return you have to declare capital gains income.
If the tax man sees regular sales of art over a tax year and there is a clear pattern they may argue itโs income tax.
If you complete a tax return you have to declare capital gains income.
If the tax man sees regular sales of art over a tax year and there is a clear pattern they may argue itโs income tax.
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Gunny
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For sale Banksy Nola white, by Gunny on Dec 21, 2020 12:29:25 GMT 1, If you complete a tax return you have to declare capital gains income. If the tax man sees regular sales of art over a tax year and there is a clear pattern they may argue itโs income tax.
If you complete a tax return you have to declare capital gains income. If the tax man sees regular sales of art over a tax year and there is a clear pattern they may argue itโs income tax. You are allowed one per year as long as you have kept the item for longer than a year, even if you sell art for a living |
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Gunny
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For sale Banksy Nola white, by Gunny on Dec 21, 2020 12:30:07 GMT 1, If you complete a tax return you have to declare capital gains income. If the tax man sees regular sales of art over a tax year and there is a clear pattern they may argue itโs income tax. You are allowed one per year as long as you have kept the item for longer than a year, even if you sell art for a living
If you complete a tax return you have to declare capital gains income. If the tax man sees regular sales of art over a tax year and there is a clear pattern they may argue itโs income tax. You are allowed one per year as long as you have kept the item for longer than a year, even if you sell art for a living As long as it was bought with the intention not to sell.. |
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Winter
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For sale Banksy Nola white, by Winter on Dec 21, 2020 12:31:58 GMT 1, Given the speed people turn art on here it would be hard to argue it was intended to be kept.
If people buy and flip 20 pieces of art over the year and make a tidy profit on each youโd be taking a risk trying to put it down as capital gains tax.
Given the speed people turn art on here it would be hard to argue it was intended to be kept.
If people buy and flip 20 pieces of art over the year and make a tidy profit on each youโd be taking a risk trying to put it down as capital gains tax.
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isbdellll
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For sale Banksy Nola white, by isbdellll on Dec 21, 2020 12:34:07 GMT 1, Oh so you can sell one item without paying the tax, better save that for my best sale.
Thanks for explaining x
Oh so you can sell one item without paying the tax, better save that for my best sale.
Thanks for explaining x
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Gunny
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For sale Banksy Nola white, by Gunny on Dec 21, 2020 12:41:16 GMT 1, Capitals gain tax is not all that bad and you just have to factor it in when deciding what you want for the item in question. The amount of CGT is based on your income tax level. For example, if you are a 20% tax payer, you will get your CGT allowance tax free (ยฃ12,300 for 2020/21), minus the cost of the item (ยฃ450 for Nola). Therefore, on a sale price of ยฃ150'000, capital gains tax will be due on ยฃ137,250.
The amount of CGT due will be ยฃ24'940 - net to seller therefore is ยฃ112'560 (+ ยฃ12'300 + ยฃ450) = ยฃ125'310
Capitals gain tax is not all that bad and you just have to factor it in when deciding what you want for the item in question. The amount of CGT is based on your income tax level. For example, if you are a 20% tax payer, you will get your CGT allowance tax free (ยฃ12,300 for 2020/21), minus the cost of the item (ยฃ450 for Nola). Therefore, on a sale price of ยฃ150'000, capital gains tax will be due on ยฃ137,250.
The amount of CGT due will be ยฃ24'940 - net to seller therefore is ยฃ112'560 (+ ยฃ12'300 + ยฃ450) = ยฃ125'310
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For sale Banksy Nola white, by dukeofwybourne on Dec 21, 2020 12:43:25 GMT 1, If you complete a tax return you have to declare capital gains income. If the tax man sees regular sales of art over a tax year and there is a clear pattern they may argue itโs income tax. You are allowed one per year as long as you have kept the item for longer than a year, even if you sell art for a living
First I've heard about the one a year rule - do you have a link?
If you complete a tax return you have to declare capital gains income. If the tax man sees regular sales of art over a tax year and there is a clear pattern they may argue itโs income tax. You are allowed one per year as long as you have kept the item for longer than a year, even if you sell art for a living First I've heard about the one a year rule - do you have a link? |
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Gunny
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For sale Banksy Nola white, by Gunny on Dec 21, 2020 12:44:57 GMT 1, You are allowed one per year as long as you have kept the item for longer than a year, even if you sell art for a living First I've heard about the one a year rule - do you have a link?
You are allowed one per year as long as you have kept the item for longer than a year, even if you sell art for a living First I've heard about the one a year rule - do you have a link? I don't, i was just told that as it takes you into another tax year and is easier to justify as a capital gain. If under a year they could argue you bought it to sell it... |
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Lazarus II
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For sale Banksy Nola white, by Lazarus II on Dec 21, 2020 13:50:19 GMT 1, Oh so you can sell one item without paying the tax, better save that for my best sale. Thanks for explaining x
depends on the value of whatever you sell.
Oh so you can sell one item without paying the tax, better save that for my best sale. Thanks for explaining x depends on the value of whatever you sell. |
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Hubble Bubble
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For sale Banksy Nola white, by Hubble Bubble on Dec 21, 2020 14:21:53 GMT 1, Oh so you can sell one item without paying the tax, better save that for my best sale. Thanks for explaining x
Oh so you can sell one item without paying the tax, better save that for my best sale. Thanks for explaining x No you can't. You pay CG tax on any art you sell if it makes you a profit of more than your allowance. You misunderstood what the poster was saying about professional art dealers and their ability to have one sale classed as Capital Gains rather than Income Tax. |
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