[obaki69]

How much do you guys think these are going for? Anytime I see "POA" or "Contact our sales team" it makes me think $20k+. Would love an original or AP, but I'm not sure they come up that often or if they do $$$$$.

[sfnyc]

There is no interest or demand for his work. Whatever you pay don't expect to make your money back.

[gd79]

Cue Jimbo....

[3D Monkey]

Nov 21, 2020 6:43:13 GMT 1 sfnyc said:

There is no interest or demand for his work. Whatever you pay don't expect to make your money back.

Absolutely 100% there: Arguably one of those most influential artists on the UK creative art scene is worth less than a well-aged dog turd.
Bravo!

[sfnyc]

He's more of an artist's artist, but he has too few collectors to actually have a market. I feel your upset, I have a piece by him, but it is what it is.

[obaki69]

So am I correct with the $15-20k price range for an original?

[pjc]

Questions I’ve always had...

If diehard Banksy collectors really thought there was even a small chance that 3D is Banksy or 3D is any part of a Banksy ‘collective’, why doesn’t his art sell for more or in higher demand?

To take that a step further, Banksy and others that command very high prices for their work are on record stating what an influence 3D has been on their career. Why is this not a reason for collectors to want to own his art?

Man I feel like in any other art genre if someone got those kind of props from some of the most highly regarded contemporaries, their artwork would be in much higher demand and selling for much higher prices.

Please advise.

[3D Monkey]

Nov 21, 2020 18:31:52 GMT 1 sfnyc said:

He's more of an artist's artist, but he has too few collectors to actually have a market. I feel your upset, I have a piece by him, but it is what it is.

Am not upset at all. It was a bizarre statement which didn’t have logic: If I spent £500 for a piece, it’s not going to be worth £400 the following day.
He has an influence that transcends paint and doesn’t require the support of major galleries to ‘spin’ and encourage a spineless frenzy, driven by marketing PR and the Far East. If that’s what you desire, then please go about your business, With no re-Kaws and have a good Doodle.
If it’s using an art collection, based around commodities, which is my perception to being the root to the statement, it becomes a tad dull and not really why these Boards were instigated.
Now, don’t get me wrong, it absolutely fills me with joy that a Club Kid or Skater from the 90’s can now buy a house.....based upon a a chance purchase of ‘some pictures they got from some Bristolian for £90”, including one of some Girl with a Balloon’ ...but the original statement is far from this, leaving excitement at the door.

[3D Monkey]

Nov 21, 2020 18:55:56 GMT 1 pjc said:

Questions I’ve always had...

If diehard Banksy collectors really thought there was even a small chance that 3D is Banksy or 3D is any part of a Banksy ‘collective’, why doesn’t his art sell for more or in higher demand?

To take that a step further, Banksy and others that command very high prices for their work are on record stating what an influence 3D has been on their career. Why is this not a reason for collectors to want to own his art?

Man I feel like in any other art genre if someone got those kind of props from some of the most highly regarded contemporaries, their artwork would be in much higher demand and selling for much higher prices.

Please advise.

He’s not Banksy this whiff-less.
Have already presented my perception regarding the rest.

[3D Monkey]

Nov 21, 2020 20:16:37 GMT 1 3D Monkey said:

Nov 21, 2020 18:55:56 GMT 1 pjc said:

Questions I’ve always had...

If diehard Banksy collectors really thought there was even a small chance that 3D is Banksy or 3D is any part of a Banksy ‘collective’, why doesn’t his art sell for more or in higher demand?

To take that a step further, Banksy and others that command very high prices for their work are on record stating what an influence 3D has been on their career. Why is this not a reason for collectors to want to own his art?

Man I feel like in any other art genre if someone got those kind of props from some of the most highly regarded contemporaries, their artwork would be in much higher demand and selling for much higher prices.

Please advise.

He’s not Banksy this whiff-less.
Have already presented my perception regarding the rest.

[3D Monkey]

Nov 21, 2020 20:16:48 GMT 1 3D Monkey said:

Nov 21, 2020 20:16:37 GMT 1 3D Monkey said:

He’s not Banksy this whiff-less.
Have already presented my perception regarding the rest.

*thus

[LonelyFarmer]

I fuckin' love him.

[3D Monkey]

Nov 21, 2020 18:47:33 GMT 1 obaki69 said:

So am I correct with the $15-20k price range for an original?

Am not sure mate, but would suggest between $5000 - 10000: Based on the Laz ‘Fire Sale’ a few years ago....Although Stevie-boy seems to be going a bit mad with his prices of late

[sameoldthing]

Nov 21, 2020 20:21:46 GMT 1 3D Monkey said:

Nov 21, 2020 18:47:33 GMT 1 obaki69 said:

So am I correct with the $15-20k price range for an original?

Am not sure mate, but would suggest between $5000 - 10000: Based on the Laz ‘Fire Sale’ a few years ago....Although Stevie-boy seems to be going a bit mad with his prices of late

Mad! You mean obscene!

[3D Monkey]

Nov 21, 2020 20:25:35 GMT 1 sameoldthing said:

Nov 21, 2020 20:21:46 GMT 1 3D Monkey said:

Am not sure mate, but would suggest between $5000 - 10000: Based on the Laz ‘Fire Sale’ a few years ago....Although Stevie-boy seems to be going a bit mad with his prices of late

Mad! You mean obscene!

.....As an 80’s Razzle mag

[pjc]

Nov 21, 2020 20:16:48 GMT 1 3D Monkey said:

Nov 21, 2020 20:16:37 GMT 1 3D Monkey said:

He’s not Banksy this whiff-less.
Have already presented my perception regarding the rest.

Just so I’m on record - I didn’t say I thought he was Banksy, which I personally have always thought ridiculous and probably something he’s been kind enough to keep his mouth shut about even if he has plenty he would want to say.  My point was more with the psychology/general herd mentality by some on this site, as well as his high regard amongst his peers...

[sfnyc]

I don't collect Kaws or Mr Doodle so I don't even know why you're going there to make a point? And if we go by your logic then why is there even a value to some color paint on stretched textile? There is no solid market for 3D and saying someone should put months of salary into a piece by him is bad advice in my opinion, especially in an economically challenging time when people are hurting, unless it is money you are fine never seeing again.

[sfnyc]

Ps: OP check the auction history on the artist. Everything of his go unsold, even at 100gbb and I m not even sure a low tier auction would accept taking his works in consignment. Christies tried selling a painting at 1000-2000 and it went unsold too.

If you want a work from the artist my guess is at this stage you can contact him directly and skip Laz.

[3D Monkey]

Nov 21, 2020 21:11:50 GMT 1 sfnyc said:

I don't collect Kaws or Mr Doodle so I don't even know why you're going there to make a point? And if we go by your logic then why is there even a value to some color paint on stretched textile? There is no solid market for 3D and saying someone should put months of salary into a piece by him is bad advice in my opinion, especially in an economically challenging time when people are hurting, unless it is money you are fine never seeing again.

I didn’t say you did, I but if it hit an aspirational nerve, then that’s not my concern.
Again, your statement relates to commodity: It’s not something which drives me, although am old enough to understand Risk.
I never encouraged anybody to part with their money therefore your Virtual Signalling is out of context and desperate.

[3D Monkey]

Nov 21, 2020 22:23:19 GMT 1 3D Monkey said:

Nov 21, 2020 21:11:50 GMT 1 sfnyc said:

I don't collect Kaws or Mr Doodle so I don't even know why you're going there to make a point? And if we go by your logic then why is there even a value to some color paint on stretched textile? There is no solid market for 3D and saying someone should put months of salary into a piece by him is bad advice in my opinion, especially in an economically challenging time when people are hurting, unless it is money you are fine never seeing again.

I didn’t say you did, I but if it hit an aspirational nerve, then that’s not my concern.
Again, your statement relates to commodity: It’s not something which drives me, although am old enough to understand Risk.
I never encouraged anybody to part with their money therefore your Virtual Signalling is out of context and desperate.

[3D Monkey]

Nov 21, 2020 22:23:32 GMT 1 3D Monkey said:

Nov 21, 2020 22:23:19 GMT 1 3D Monkey said:

I didn’t say you did, But if I hit an aspirational nerve, then that’s not my concern.
Again, your statement relates to commodity: It’s not something which drives me, although am old enough to understand Risk.
I never encouraged anybody to part with their money therefore your Virtual Signalling is out of context and desperate.

[obaki69]

Nov 21, 2020 18:55:56 GMT 1 pjc said:

Questions I’ve always had...

If diehard Banksy collectors really thought there was even a small chance that 3D is Banksy or 3D is any part of a Banksy ‘collective’, why doesn’t his art sell for more or in higher demand?

To take that a step further, Banksy and others that command very high prices for their work are on record stating what an influence 3D has been on their career. Why is this not a reason for collectors to want to own his art?

Man I feel like in any other art genre if someone got those kind of props from some of the most highly regarded contemporaries, their artwork would be in much higher demand and selling for much higher prices.

Please advise.

Spot on. I like his stuff because of his mark on the UK street art scene and his music. Same for Blek. Just like music, find the artists that inspired the people you like then buy their art/music. I am a massive Oasis fan so for 20+ years this is what I've done with music. Applying the same pattern with art.

[3D Monkey]

Nov 21, 2020 20:42:16 GMT 1 pjc said:

Nov 21, 2020 20:16:48 GMT 1 3D Monkey said:

Just so I’m on record - I didn’t say I thought he was Banksy, which I personally have always thought ridiculous and probably something he’s been kind enough to keep his mouth shut about even if he has plenty he would want to say.  My point was more with the psychology/general herd mentality by some on this site, as well as his high regard amongst his peers...

My perception is that given multi-millionaire, who could afford (both financially and from a negative PR perspective) to reduce Massive Attacks Carbon Footprint by cancelling/rescheduling their Tour has no incentive to discuss the matter any further.
This site didn’t drive the frenzy, but it was Laz in LA, The Far/Middle East using it as a commodity and also a great opportunity to launder cash...and then the blighters subsequently joined this site to tap in to the community: To be fair, you can’t blame them for that, as life is all about Darwin.

[sfnyc]

3dmonkey I don't really understand what you're talking about but you do seem clearly bitter and raging that your collection in 3D didn't turn out the same returns as Banksy's works. I'm sorry for your loss but no reason for being so aggressive. Value doesn't justify everything dude.

[obaki69]

With ALL that being said since my original post...lol. If anyone has any 3D prints or originals for potential sale, please let me know. No Surrender, In Baghdad, etc. Have a good weekend!

[sameoldthing]

Nov 21, 2020 23:24:31 GMT 1 sfnyc said:

3dmonkey I don't really understand what you're talking about but you do seem clearly bitter and raging that your collection in 3D didn't turn out the same returns as Banksy's works. I'm sorry for your loss but no reason for being so aggressive. Value doesn't justify everything dude.

Is it really about returns! Personally it about being there from the beginning!
Keep it Real!

[3D Monkey]

Nov 21, 2020 23:24:31 GMT 1 sfnyc said:

3dmonkey I don't really understand what you're talking about but you do seem clearly bitter and raging that your collection in 3D didn't turn out the same returns as Banksy's works. I'm sorry for your loss but no reason for being so aggressive. Value doesn't justify everything dude.

I know you don’t: Maybe that’s the point.
Am not bitter or aggressive: I challenged your initial statement. as I perceived it to be not considered. The narrative has gone from referencing Art as a commodity to, “Value doesn’t justify everything dude”.
Am not bitter about Banksy at all: Quite to the contrary for a good reason, as per my previous statement..

[jimbofatz]

Nov 21, 2020 10:30:53 GMT 1 gd79 said:

Cue Jimbo....

At the end of the day 3D (Robert Del Naja) will be the artist museums/serious collectors actually want. We just aren't there yet --story is still being told.

People have been asking LAZ for prices on those OG 3Ds for a very long time just because they are up doesn't mean they are for sale.

[nick42]

of del Naja Brittania if anyone has one. Thank you.

[pjc]

Nov 22, 2020 1:24:30 GMT 1 jimbofatz said:

Nov 21, 2020 10:30:53 GMT 1 gd79 said:

Cue Jimbo....

At the end of the day 3D (Robert Del Naja) will be the artist museums/serious collectors actually want. We just aren't there yet --story is still being told.

People have been asking LAZ for prices on those OG 3Ds for a very long time just because they are up doesn't mean they are for sale.

To follow up on this, you think Del Naja is ok with this if true?