[lilbull]

Hi.
I bought a small canvas from a car boot sale a few weeks back. It is not in the best condition and shows signs of mould on the back. The woman selling it said she didn't know much about it but said it was probably from an ex partner and was having a big clear out.
I spent all of 5 seconds looking at it before asking how much she wanted? I paid five pounds.
After walking away I had a better look at it and could see that it had definitely been hand painted (not just a printed type image) but has nothing written on the back at all, which i would expect from a real canvas.
Looking at pest control, there is a 100 pounds charge to authenticate works and obviously I'd rather not pay that and send it off if it doesn't stand a chance of being a real one.

What do you think? Joke type copy or possibly a Banksy? Im not stupid, I know its probably a joke painting but for a fiver i'm still happy to put in on the wall. I just want to rule out it being worth a trillion pounds without the embarrassment and cost of sending to pest control.

[Runit]

Definitely legit. Well played.

[iamzero]

Pest Control it... I think it may be the ultra rare Mason Storm edition.

[smj43]

99.9% a fake

[Terry Fuckwitt]

I painted it about 12 years ago to hang in our house, as I couldn't afford £3k for an original. I left it behind after divorcing her. She was a miserable cow and would never go out on Saturday nights due to getting up at 5.30am every Sunday morning to go to car boot fairs. I expect my shoes I left behind are also bloody mouldy, fuckin lazy thing she was.

[lilbull]

Thats why i'm hesitant in throwing a hundred quid away on pest control if its a total wrongun haha

[Terry Fuckwitt]

Nov 11, 2020 21:12:55 GMT 1 lilbull said:

Thats why i'm hesitant in throwing a hundred quid away on pest control if its a total wrongun haha

PC is free if the piece is fake. It's like those Mot's, Fail it's Free, Pass you Pay👍
Great username by the way🤣

[kjg]

If you want to sell it let me know.

I would love to use this one as a gimmick gift to a friend who always laughs at my efforts on being funny in this forum but looked a bit puzzled when I told him what Banksy prints are fetching at the moment :-)

[lilbull]

Is it really? I must have read it wrong... thats fair enough then if thats the case as im already five quid down and christmas is coming 

[Terry Fuckwitt]

Nov 11, 2020 21:20:26 GMT 1 lilbull said:

Is it really? I must have read it wrong... thats fair enough then if thats the case as im already five quid down and christmas is coming 

[Deleted]

I'd risk £100 for the chance of £200,000 canvas.
The frame certainly looks more robust than you'd expect from a cheap copy? What are the dimensions? That might give a better idea of its authenticity.

[alibear]

It looks real to me 
Spend that £100

[Majestic]

You have literally nothing to lose by submitting it.

[lilbull]

its small, give or take a few millimetres its 8 x 8 inches and tagged down the right hand side also.

Thanks for the info about not having to pay if its a copy / fake job. Thats a no brainer for me now so ill get it sent off. 

[robo]

The tag might be a good indicator...

[Terry Fuckwitt]

Nov 11, 2020 21:28:15 GMT 1 lilbull said:

its small, give or take a few millimetres its 8 x 8 inches and tagged down the right hand side also.

Thanks for the info about not having to pay if its a copy / fake job. Thats a no brainer for me now so ill get it sent off. 

This one is genuine and 23cm x 23cm. Don't forget my Xmas gift for helping you 😉

[kjg]

Hm. But that one looks quite different.

[Nuno]

Could be anything. Good luck and please keep us updated!

[Pipes]

Post of the century if it’s real 👏🏻

[hnkpnk]

I believe it should be sprayed. And this is probably the canvas they try to imitate and the hi-res picture used as template:

www.sothebys.com/en/auctions/ecatalogue/2018/contemporary-art-day-auction-l18023/lot.122.html

[Majestic]

Can we see the tag down the side?

[eyectopus]

I can't tell from angle of the photo but the top part seems too sharp with not much overspray. The bottom text doesn't look sharp enough.

[DAVE]

Can't wait for the outcome of this.

[lilbull]

Nov 11, 2020 21:37:02 GMT 1 hnkpnk said:

I believe it should be sprayed. And this is probably the canvas they try to imitate and the hi-res picture used as template:

www.sothebys.com/en/auctions/ecatalogue/2018/contemporary-art-day-auction-l18023/lot.122.html

It looks bloody similar but definitely not the same. There are white areas behind the hands etc.

I have had a few messages regarding more pics but im going to send it all off to pest control tonight and leave it at that for now. Real or fake, ill let you all know asap.. Im not even letting myself think it may be a real one as the chances of that are stupidly slim I know!

[sfnyc]

There are a few small ones like these he did, forgot which show they're from. But could be legit, check with PC of course as mentioned above and let us know?
Keep it Real!

[hnkpnk]

Nov 11, 2020 21:51:29 GMT 1 lilbull said:

Nov 11, 2020 21:37:02 GMT 1 hnkpnk said:

I believe it should be sprayed. And this is probably the canvas they try to imitate and the hi-res picture used as template:

www.sothebys.com/en/auctions/ecatalogue/2018/contemporary-art-day-auction-l18023/lot.122.html

It looks bloody similar but definitely not the same. There are white areas behind the hands etc.

I have had a few messages regarding more pics but im going to send it all off to pest control tonight and leave it at that for now. Real or fake, ill let you all know asap.. Im not even letting myself think it may be a real one as the chances of that are stupidly slim I know!

"Definitely not the same"

As the buyer paid £418,000 for it two years ago he would have to be pretty uncareful to let it end up in a car boot sale for £5!

It's painted, not sprayed. And it's fake. But probably not made to fool anyone, just for fun.

[sfnyc]

PS: urbanartassociation.com/thread/14295/santas-ghetto-2002-dragon-bar

[kjg]

I will make one myself to gift to my friend👍🏻

[lilbull]

Nov 11, 2020 22:04:18 GMT 1 hnkpnk said:

Nov 11, 2020 21:51:29 GMT 1 lilbull said:

It looks bloody similar but definitely not the same. There are white areas behind the hands etc.

I have had a few messages regarding more pics but im going to send it all off to pest control tonight and leave it at that for now. Real or fake, ill let you all know asap.. Im not even letting myself think it may be a real one as the chances of that are stupidly slim I know!

"Definitely not the same"

As the buyer paid £418,000 for it two years ago he would have to be pretty uncareful to let it end up in a car boot sale for £5!

It's painted, not sprayed. And it's fake. But probably not made to fool anyone, just for fun.

Thats what I am thinking, just a fun piece to put on the wall. There must be ten years of dust on the top of it so at least it wasn't painted a month ago if nothing else.
The red background looks painted but the actual monkey is sprayed, you can see that more clearly up close and on the lettering especially.
People have said not to put any further photos online which makes sense so I wont for now. Thanks everyone.

[lilbull]

Nov 11, 2020 22:08:13 GMT 1 kjg said:

I will make one myself to gift to my friend👍🏻

wait until I have heard back from pest control before you make anymore dodgy versions else they will get suspicious hahaha!