[Daniel Silk]

Banksy Blowpop Records.
What do you think of these? Hard to authenticate.

www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2334524.m570.l1313&_nkw=banksy+record+blowpop&_sacat=0&LH_TitleDesc=0&_sop=10&_osacat=0&_odkw=banksy+record

[Daniel Silk]

www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2334524.m570.l1313&_nkw=banksy+record+blowpop&_sacat=0&LH_TitleDesc=0&_sop=10&_osacat=0&_odkw=banksy+record

[hellfo]

Genuine hand painted by Banksy at 5000?
Suuuuuuuuuuuuuuure

[Daniel Silk]

www.ebay.co.uk/itm/194154620055?hash=item2d34846497%3Ag%3A2z8AAOSw1ANgpohC&LH_All=1

[Daniel Silk]

This is interesting -

“This auction is for an early Banksy stencil sprayed record from 1999.
Banksy used to share the Timebomb office in Bristol with John Stapleton (whom I know personally), and kindly created the bull-car stencil for him to use on the first 100 promo copies of this record”

www.popsike.com/Early-Banksy-Blowpop-Record-Capoeira-Twins-4-x-3/250842242106.html

[brettlock]

I've studied many fakes of this record and it's easy to see if the original stencil was used or a fake one. You can compare with the copy of rockdoc (recordart.net), his is most likely a legit one. If the stencil is exactely the same (The first L in bLowpop is kind of special for example), but it's important that every part of the Titel and of the picture fits perfectely!
These two Records shown above are both legit ones. The stencils are absolutely the same like on rockdoc's copy... A bit paler but the same.

[brettlock]

vinylrecordsigned.biz/banksy-extremely-rare-blowpop-record-vinyl-un-signed-capoeira-twins.php

The perfect example for a fake one 🤢

[sixftjellybaby]

 Came across this by accident just thought someone maybe interested, don’t know much about these at all seems odd to not be in an art auction but if you love your music there’s some great lots in the auction


bid.omegaauctions.co.uk/auction/lot/lot-923---banksy-blow-pop-stencilled-sleeve-capoeira-twins---4-x-3/?lot=12970&so=0&st=banksy&sto=0&au=42&ef=&et=&ic=False&sd=0&pp=48&pn=1&g=1

[wardance]

Sept 4, 2021 11:10:56 GMT 1 sixftjellybaby said:

 Came across this by accident just thought someone maybe interested, don’t know much about these at all seems odd to not be in an art auction but if you love your music there’s some great lots in the auction


bid.omegaauctions.co.uk/auction/lot/lot-923---banksy-blow-pop-stencilled-sleeve-capoeira-twins---4-x-3/?lot=12970&so=0&st=banksy&sto=0&au=42&ef=&et=&ic=False&sd=0&pp=48&pn=1&g=1

£2,800

bid.omegaauctions.co.uk/auction/lot/lot-923---banksy-blow-pop-stencilled-sleeve-capoeira-twins---4-x-3/?lot=12970&so=0&st=banksy&sto=0&au=42&ef=&et=&ic=False&sd=2&pp=48&pn=1&g=1

[startimeash]

Have bought from Omega before and they are legit. They are auctioning Peter Hook’s New Order collection in October. Got a signed auction catalog; there’s a Gorillaz Jamie Hewlett original as part of the sale, as well as about 100 lots that I’m gonna get outbid on.

[Someone Like You]

Hello I am looking for Capoeira Twins, if you have please PM

[met]

May 4, 2022 11:03:39 GMT 1 Someone Like You said:

Hello I am looking for Capoeira Twins, if you have please PM

Assuming your search is for the Four (4x3) / Truth Will Out 12" promo, then hopefully you really know what you're doing.



Over the past decade, this has become landmine territory, exclusive to two types of collectors:

(i)  the exceptionally well-informed, in possession of a trained eye; and

(ii)  fools (or, if being generous, naive people) who often place excessive faith in both the honesty and knowledge of others — including private individuals, dealers, gallerists, and auction house staff.

[Someone Like You]

I know there are a lot of fakes around, but i hope i have learned to recognize an original, and to stay away from some galleries.
But anyway have you for sale?

[met]

May 4, 2022 13:37:04 GMT 1 Someone Like You said:

I know there are a lot of fakes around, but i hope i have learned to recognize an original, and to stay away from some galleries.
But anyway have you for sale?

Provided you can:

(a)  recognise an original; and

(b)  equally important, distinguish an original from a well-executed, artificially-aged counterfeit,

then you are on the right track.



The key requirement is being completely independent, knowledge-wise.

In other words, that you be in a position where you can avoid the mistake of placing full reliance on the authenticity assurances of a third party — regardless of their credibility or reputation, and whether that person or entity be a private collector, dealer, gallery, or auction house.


Elaborating further


1.  Sellers lacking integrity, including dishonest ones, will happily sell you items:

(i)  they know to be fake;
(ii)  they suspect might be fake; or
(iii)  in relation to which they've shown reckless disregard as to genuineness.


2.  Honest and reputable sellers could easily sell you fakes too — since they themselves may have been unknowingly duped.


__________


While I don't possess one of these hand-sprayed Capoeira Twins records, I've seen a few in person, and have a couple of acquaintances who are owners.

There are surely dozens of people in a similar position to mine when it comes to access.



Now, my own stencil-cutting and spraypainting skills are relatively basic. In addition, the list of contacts I have in the record industry is largely non-existent.

But notwithstanding these limitations, I am confident that (if I were so inclined) I could secure the requisite source materials and churn out fakes of a calibre that would fool many experienced Banksy collectors.

For this reason, and especially given the absence of a COA safety net from Pest Control Office, I myself would be a little nervous if spending a four-figure sum on one of these records today.


__________


Good luck with your continued search.

[Someone Like You]

May 4, 2022 18:39:17 GMT 1 met said:

May 4, 2022 13:37:04 GMT 1 Someone Like You said:

I know there are a lot of fakes around, but i hope i have learned to recognize an original, and to stay away from some galleries.
But anyway have you for sale?

Provided you can:

(a)  recognise an original; and

(b)  equally important, distinguish an original from a well-executed, artificially-aged counterfeit,

then you are on the right track.



The key requirement is being completely independent, knowledge-wise.

In other words, that you be in a position where you can avoid the mistake of placing full reliance on the authenticity assurances of a third party — regardless of their credibility or reputation, and whether that person or entity be a private collector, dealer, gallery, or auction house.


Elaborating further


1.  Sellers lacking integrity, including dishonest ones, will happily sell you items:

(i)  they know to be fake;
(ii)  they suspect might be fake; or
(iii)  in relation to which they've shown reckless disregard as to genuineness.


2.  Honest and reputable sellers could easily sell you fakes too — since they themselves may have been unknowingly duped.


__________


While I don't possess one of these hand-sprayed Capoeira Twins records, I've seen a few in person, and have a couple of acquaintances who are owners.

There are surely dozens of people in a similar position to mine when it comes to access.



Now, my own stencil-cutting and spraypainting skills are relatively basic. In addition, the list of contacts I have in the record industry is largely non-existent.

But notwithstanding these limitations, I am confident that (if I were so inclined) I could secure the requisite source materials and churn out fakes of a calibre that would fool many experienced Banksy collectors.

For this reason, and especially given the absence of a COA safety net from Pest Control Office, I myself would be a little nervous if spending a four-figure sum on one of these records today.


__________


Good luck with your continued search.

[Someone Like You]

Thanks Met very helpful advice 

[Daniel Silk]

Serious bidder action for this piece currently on eBay 😳
www.ebay.co.uk/itm/134221501386

[Dutch Art Collector]

Looking for one.

[Brice]

Watch out for this seller on Discogs:
www.discogs.com/user/alexcowrec1 (email: [e-mail])

he offered an hour ago the disc for 450 dollars by requesting payment between friends via the paypal address [e-mail]

The photos he sends :

[Lroy]

Jan 18, 2023 23:15:09 GMT 1 Brice said:

Watch out for this seller on Discogs:
www.discogs.com/user/alexcowrec1 (email: [e-mail])

he offered an hour ago the disc for 450 dollars by requesting payment between friends via the paypal address [e-mail]

The photos he sends :

I saw it 1or 2 weeks ago. I was surprised by the low price on Discogs.

[Brice]

Jan 18, 2023 23:24:33 GMT 1 Lroy said:

I saw it 1or 2 weeks ago. I was surprised by the low price on Discogs.

it's the same photo as a little earlier... (but not the same price )

urbanartassociation.com/post/2090394/thread

[Someone Like You]

Is a scam do not buy it

[Atelier]

Jun 14, 2007 17:39:55 GMT 1 capoeiratwins said:

Hi There,

My name's Tim and I'm one half of the Capoeira Twins.

The cover was indeed sprayed by Banksy (I think he hand stencilled the first 100 copies). The tunes on the white label were '4x3', and on the flip was a tune called 'Truth Will Out'. The Mr.Scruff mix wasn't done for some time after this release, when we signed it to Pete Tong's ffrr label.

I'm really chuffed for Banksy that demand for his work has gone through the roof. I just wish I hadn't have excitedly given all my stencilled copies away to my mates when we first got them...doh!!

Hope this clears stuff up for you, happy e-baying

Tim

www.myspace.com/capoeiratwins

Myspace!! 

[Dutch Art Collector]

The price is to good to be true right?

[Dutch Art Collector]

What about £5500 for this one? Good price?

[Someone Like You]

Jan 20, 2023 10:04:42 GMT 1 Dutch Art Collector said:

What about £5500 for this one? Good price?

Hi,
Yes, it's a great price, but be very careful that there are many fakes around, I've been looking for mine there for two years.
Look it over and make sure it has a demonstrable history.
and study this post well!!

[mandem]

Listing on behalf of a mate who was once a globe-trotting breakbeat DJ and producer. This is 100% legit, UK-based seller. Unframed.
Feel free to PM and I can put your offers forward.

Thanks.

<i>
"I was lucky enough to be sent a handsprayed #Banksy on a record sleeve from 1999 when I was a DJ.  There were 100 made and sent out to DJs. A lot were lost, destroyed with many not realising who created the design."</i>

Some details on the Banksy:

Early in his career, Banksy created an edition of 100 vinyl sleeves for music artist, Capoeira Twins', release under Blowpop Records.

Bristol-based record company Blowpop Records shared premises with Banksy from around 1998-2000, before the artist moved to London. The owner of the record label accepted Banksy's offer to hand-stencil the first 100 covers of a white label promotional record. As this work precedes Pictures on Walls, it is not issued with a certificate of authenticity.

[I Like You Your Weird]

This is freaking cool!!!

[hnkpnk]

If you want any serious bids you should attach hi-res photos of the cover, record, insert if included and matrix numbers in the vinyl run-off.

[hnkpnk]

And it's not because "... this work precedes Pictures on Walls" it can't get a COA. It's because it's not originally sold as, or considered, "art" by Banksy.