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Banksy Petrol bomb - fake vs genuine, by Steve Perkins on Nov 28, 2020 22:05:11 GMT 1, Sorry my account been hacked by laz and biggie
Sorry my account been hacked by laz and biggie
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Banksy Petrol bomb - fake vs genuine, by ABC on Nov 28, 2020 22:21:05 GMT 1, this thread makes me nauseous. really. Here we are among members and we already see the scale of the disaster, just at our level. How many of these posters were sold by other sellers or resellers? just recently one of those posters (real or fake?) sold for over £ 3000 ?! It's huge ! It is unforgivable and we expect from a gallery, confidence, honesty, because the latter is supposed to have appraised the print. I think of those young couples or not who believed and wanted their first Banksy and who don't know that it is a fake. Will they ever find out? Jamie pulled out a big deal here! We have had famous cases in the past, and, eBay is full of fakes - not at these prices anyway ( I bought in 2013 Save or Delete poster, supposed genuine « - for 30 quid - and the guy even put two in the tube...). Petrol Bomb, was, is a print for the people, anarchists and the humble, honest people of Bristol, and we find ourselves facing, capitalists and scammers who will do anything for the money. One of these posters sold over 6k at auction. Was it a real one ? it still reminds me the story of this young man who bought (by a gallery) a bat d'Invader (true or false. in any case, stolen). Contemporary art galleries are much more supervised than that, with very strict rules. Do they also sell on ebay? street art doesn't mean carelessness and indulging in anything. Really, something has changed on this forum and we have lost a bit of ourselves, our dreams, trusting members, our confidence and our love of street art. I should be happy to have bought mine from an ordinary citizen of Bristol, but no, now this print smells of scorch and burns itself up. Singed I, we used to say here- coz of my dyslexia. 
A point well made, I feel though that with the prices being generated nowadays, I'd say that no gallery can authenticate/ appraise a banksy regardless of how long they have been in the game or their experience in the comings and goings of Mr B except PC. Not sure that stating "this comes with no COA" or I honestly think its the real deal/we would never sell a fake" is enough. Even a receipt doesn't prove anything unless one has an edition number on. I remember the till receipts from the Ghettos for Mr B stuff, just had £100 on it and Laz header, well the ones I got did. I was out of the game with the posters so d they have some kind of COA?
This higlights that even with COA galleries and dealers have to remain on guard. Shame it got to this but the thought of 💰 can sometimes result in greed.
Remember the issues Eye Storm had with Hirst Prints!!
Reality now is, no COA = you take the risk.
this thread makes me nauseous. really. Here we are among members and we already see the scale of the disaster, just at our level. How many of these posters were sold by other sellers or resellers? just recently one of those posters (real or fake?) sold for over £ 3000 ?! It's huge ! It is unforgivable and we expect from a gallery, confidence, honesty, because the latter is supposed to have appraised the print. I think of those young couples or not who believed and wanted their first Banksy and who don't know that it is a fake. Will they ever find out? Jamie pulled out a big deal here! We have had famous cases in the past, and, eBay is full of fakes - not at these prices anyway ( I bought in 2013 Save or Delete poster, supposed genuine « - for 30 quid - and the guy even put two in the tube...). Petrol Bomb, was, is a print for the people, anarchists and the humble, honest people of Bristol, and we find ourselves facing, capitalists and scammers who will do anything for the money. One of these posters sold over 6k at auction. Was it a real one ? it still reminds me the story of this young man who bought (by a gallery) a bat d'Invader (true or false. in any case, stolen). Contemporary art galleries are much more supervised than that, with very strict rules. Do they also sell on ebay? street art doesn't mean carelessness and indulging in anything. Really, something has changed on this forum and we have lost a bit of ourselves, our dreams, trusting members, our confidence and our love of street art. I should be happy to have bought mine from an ordinary citizen of Bristol, but no, now this print smells of scorch and burns itself up. Singed I, we used to say here- coz of my dyslexia. A point well made, I feel though that with the prices being generated nowadays, I'd say that no gallery can authenticate/ appraise a banksy regardless of how long they have been in the game or their experience in the comings and goings of Mr B except PC. Not sure that stating "this comes with no COA" or I honestly think its the real deal/we would never sell a fake" is enough. Even a receipt doesn't prove anything unless one has an edition number on. I remember the till receipts from the Ghettos for Mr B stuff, just had £100 on it and Laz header, well the ones I got did. I was out of the game with the posters so d they have some kind of COA? This higlights that even with COA galleries and dealers have to remain on guard. Shame it got to this but the thought of 💰 can sometimes result in greed. Remember the issues Eye Storm had with Hirst Prints!! Reality now is, no COA = you take the risk. |
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Banksy Petrol bomb - fake vs genuine, by tab1 on Nov 28, 2020 22:26:21 GMT 1, Sad pathetic twit , is your hormone replacement running out ?
The amount of continous private emails you are sending me of abuse about a statement that buyers will have lost out ?
For what ? A poster as you say , with no association to you with the seller , why so worked up and need to defend him?
I can handle randomness and odd behaviour which is frequent here , but you are displaying extreme abuse and possibly mental
Health issues claire and need help
Ive reported your messages , carry on if you need
www.met.police.uk/advice/advice-and-information/har/harassment-on-social-media/
Sad pathetic twit , is your hormone replacement running out ? The amount of continous private emails you are sending me of abuse about a statement that buyers will have lost out ? For what ? A poster as you say , with no association to you with the seller , why so worked up and need to defend him? I can handle randomness and odd behaviour which is frequent here , but you are displaying extreme abuse and possibly mental Health issues claire and need help Ive reported your messages , carry on if you need www.met.police.uk/advice/advice-and-information/har/harassment-on-social-media/ |
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Banksy Petrol bomb - fake vs genuine, by Steve Perkins on Nov 28, 2020 22:29:14 GMT 1, You start it calling me out so when I do it back you don’t like it
Now grow up you pleb
If you call people out they defend themselves
So put up or shut up
Tab1 or whatever you call your silly self
You start it calling me out so when I do it back you don’t like it
Now grow up you pleb
If you call people out they defend themselves
So put up or shut up
Tab1 or whatever you call your silly self
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Banksy Petrol bomb - fake vs genuine, by tab1 on Nov 28, 2020 22:39:37 GMT 1, Ok Claire
Hang on Jamie the guy who sold this offered your money back in full no agg with what looks like a genuine mistake You was not happy until you aired your laundry on here and you wish him bad karma you sound like a spiteful individual If bought a year ago these were 600-800?even if refunded now , not as if you can re purchase a genuine one with the refund?
You sent numerous pathetic abusive messages privately in reference to The above quote 5 hours ago ?
Why Has this triggered Your psychopathic traits
an hour ago I sent a public Reply message on the thread in reply To your private abuse instead of being a pathetic insecure twerp and hiding and trying to bully others
Now stop getting your knickers in a twist and grow up Claire or butch Steve on the forum🤷♂️
Ok Claire Hang on Jamie the guy who sold this offered your money back in full no agg with what looks like a genuine mistake You was not happy until you aired your laundry on here and you wish him bad karma you sound like a spiteful individual If bought a year ago these were 600-800?even if refunded now , not as if you can re purchase a genuine one with the refund? You sent numerous pathetic abusive messages privately in reference to The above quote 5 hours ago ? Why Has this triggered Your psychopathic traits an hour ago I sent a public Reply message on the thread in reply To your private abuse instead of being a pathetic insecure twerp and hiding and trying to bully others Now stop getting your knickers in a twist and grow up Claire or butch Steve on the forum🤷♂️ |
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Banksy Petrol bomb - fake vs genuine, by Lroy on Nov 28, 2020 22:45:12 GMT 1, this thread makes me nauseous. really. Here we are among members and we already see the scale of the disaster, just at our level. How many of these posters were sold by other sellers or resellers? just recently one of those posters (real or fake?) sold for over £ 3000 ?! It's huge ! It is unforgivable and we expect from a gallery, confidence, honesty, because the latter is supposed to have appraised the print. I think of those young couples or not who believed and wanted their first Banksy and who don't know that it is a fake. Will they ever find out? Jamie pulled out a big deal here! We have had famous cases in the past, and, eBay is full of fakes - not at these prices anyway ( I bought in 2013 Save or Delete poster, supposed genuine « - for 30 quid - and the guy even put two in the tube...). Petrol Bomb, was, is a print for the people, anarchists and the humble, honest people of Bristol, and we find ourselves facing, capitalists and scammers who will do anything for the money. One of these posters sold over 6k at auction. Was it a real one ? it still reminds me the story of this young man who bought (by a gallery) a bat d'Invader (true or false. in any case, stolen). Contemporary art galleries are much more supervised than that, with very strict rules. Do they also sell on ebay? street art doesn't mean carelessness and indulging in anything. Really, something has changed on this forum and we have lost a bit of ourselves, our dreams, trusting members, our confidence and our love of street art. I should be happy to have bought mine from an ordinary citizen of Bristol, but no, now this print smells of scorch and burns itself up. Singed I, we used to say here- coz of my dyslexia. A point well made, I feel though that with the prices being generated nowadays, I'd say that no gallery can authenticate/ appraise a banksy regardless of how long they have been in the game or their experience in the comings and goings of Mr B except PC. Not sure that stating "this comes with no COA" or I honestly think its the real deal/we would never sell a fake" is enough. Even a receipt doesn't prove anything unless one has an edition number on. I remember the till receipts from the Ghettos for Mr B stuff, just had £100 on it and Laz header, well the ones I got did. I was out of the game with the posters so d they have some kind of COA? This higlights that even with COA galleries and dealers have to remain on guard. Shame it got to this but the thought of 💰 can sometimes result in greed. Remember the issues Eye Storm had with Hirst Prints!! Reality now is, no COA = you take the risk.
Agreed about the coa and the sale ticket or “‘envelope “ sometimes asked, or bill, etc .. that means nothing.
Your comment is clea. But is it a reason to swindle people? With an organization? Structured. With friends ( not you of course ) as Steve Pete ?
Steve is laughing ( too much 🍺 🍷 ? ) loud, insulting, saying that’s nothing, a poster, a piece of paper ( heard this imbecile kind of “quote “ thousand times ! ) , playing with a cynical hype irony ... and is agreed with another one mocking the guys ., Why ? Because he is rich and selfish ? Condescending And very proud to be ? Cynical again ? Pro Brexit, right side, UKIP maybe ? Liking to nail youths, workers, fans of Banksy and urban art , and to scratch them as a cow-boy do it with his fag on the pavement .. You have too much money ? Gimme some ! Or give it to charity. A fake one. No Risks.
this thread makes me nauseous. really. Here we are among members and we already see the scale of the disaster, just at our level. How many of these posters were sold by other sellers or resellers? just recently one of those posters (real or fake?) sold for over £ 3000 ?! It's huge ! It is unforgivable and we expect from a gallery, confidence, honesty, because the latter is supposed to have appraised the print. I think of those young couples or not who believed and wanted their first Banksy and who don't know that it is a fake. Will they ever find out? Jamie pulled out a big deal here! We have had famous cases in the past, and, eBay is full of fakes - not at these prices anyway ( I bought in 2013 Save or Delete poster, supposed genuine « - for 30 quid - and the guy even put two in the tube...). Petrol Bomb, was, is a print for the people, anarchists and the humble, honest people of Bristol, and we find ourselves facing, capitalists and scammers who will do anything for the money. One of these posters sold over 6k at auction. Was it a real one ? it still reminds me the story of this young man who bought (by a gallery) a bat d'Invader (true or false. in any case, stolen). Contemporary art galleries are much more supervised than that, with very strict rules. Do they also sell on ebay? street art doesn't mean carelessness and indulging in anything. Really, something has changed on this forum and we have lost a bit of ourselves, our dreams, trusting members, our confidence and our love of street art. I should be happy to have bought mine from an ordinary citizen of Bristol, but no, now this print smells of scorch and burns itself up. Singed I, we used to say here- coz of my dyslexia. A point well made, I feel though that with the prices being generated nowadays, I'd say that no gallery can authenticate/ appraise a banksy regardless of how long they have been in the game or their experience in the comings and goings of Mr B except PC. Not sure that stating "this comes with no COA" or I honestly think its the real deal/we would never sell a fake" is enough. Even a receipt doesn't prove anything unless one has an edition number on. I remember the till receipts from the Ghettos for Mr B stuff, just had £100 on it and Laz header, well the ones I got did. I was out of the game with the posters so d they have some kind of COA? This higlights that even with COA galleries and dealers have to remain on guard. Shame it got to this but the thought of 💰 can sometimes result in greed. Remember the issues Eye Storm had with Hirst Prints!! Reality now is, no COA = you take the risk. Agreed about the coa and the sale ticket or “‘envelope “ sometimes asked, or bill, etc .. that means nothing. Your comment is clea. But is it a reason to swindle people? With an organization? Structured. With friends ( not you of course ) as Steve Pete ? Steve is laughing ( too much 🍺 🍷 ? ) loud, insulting, saying that’s nothing, a poster, a piece of paper ( heard this imbecile kind of “quote “ thousand times ! ) , playing with a cynical hype irony ... and is agreed with another one mocking the guys ., Why ? Because he is rich and selfish ? Condescending And very proud to be ? Cynical again ? Pro Brexit, right side, UKIP maybe ? Liking to nail youths, workers, fans of Banksy and urban art , and to scratch them as a cow-boy do it with his fag on the pavement .. You have too much money ? Gimme some ! Or give it to charity. A fake one. No Risks. |
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Banksy Petrol bomb - fake vs genuine, by teabaggins on Nov 28, 2020 23:35:12 GMT 1,
Hows the crusade going?
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Banksy Petrol bomb - fake vs genuine, by horationelson on Nov 28, 2020 23:58:46 GMT 1, I haven’t previously dealt with lobster/Tate Ward or bought this poster, but I had been eyeing up some items in their forthcoming auction. And this thread worries me quite a bit, leaving me questioning a number of their listings.
In short, it’s one thing knowing the market and being able to set up an auction house as a marketplace/intermediary to facilitate the sale and purchase of works, but it’s an entirely different thing setting up somewhere with the technical expertise to deal with matters such as the authenticity of works (which is pretty important where the market is now saturated with so many unsigned editions which didn’t originate from galleries).
To illustrate the point, I see in the 2017 thread that Lobster said the following in relation to a petrol bomb then offered by him for sale:
“ It is indeed a printed signature - some people use the term " plate signed " - I have no idea what that means (!!!!!) but I assume it is the same thing  ”
Now, not saying everyone who opens an auction house or sells art has to have an MA from the Courtauld or have spent decades at Christies etc, but the fact that someone doesn’t know what “plate signed” means and can then go on to co-found an auction house (even if not the person tasked with appraisals/valuations) is mildly concerning, and gives me pause for thought before bidding for some of those unsigned Warhols etc coming up next month.
I haven’t previously dealt with lobster/Tate Ward or bought this poster, but I had been eyeing up some items in their forthcoming auction. And this thread worries me quite a bit, leaving me questioning a number of their listings. In short, it’s one thing knowing the market and being able to set up an auction house as a marketplace/intermediary to facilitate the sale and purchase of works, but it’s an entirely different thing setting up somewhere with the technical expertise to deal with matters such as the authenticity of works (which is pretty important where the market is now saturated with so many unsigned editions which didn’t originate from galleries). To illustrate the point, I see in the 2017 thread that Lobster said the following in relation to a petrol bomb then offered by him for sale: “ It is indeed a printed signature - some people use the term " plate signed " - I have no idea what that means (!!!!!) but I assume it is the same thing ” Now, not saying everyone who opens an auction house or sells art has to have an MA from the Courtauld or have spent decades at Christies etc, but the fact that someone doesn’t know what “plate signed” means and can then go on to co-found an auction house (even if not the person tasked with appraisals/valuations) is mildly concerning, and gives me pause for thought before bidding for some of those unsigned Warhols etc coming up next month. |
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Banksy Petrol bomb - fake vs genuine, by charliec2701 on Nov 29, 2020 0:00:22 GMT 1, Surely we’re at this stage by now .....
Surely we’re at this stage by now .....
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Banksy Petrol bomb - fake vs genuine, by richy rich on Nov 29, 2020 0:33:42 GMT 1, Here here Mr Steve Perkins Don’t know what all the fuss is about, It’s only a cheap old poster , no coa , who cares stick it on your wall , what difference does it make if it’s a slightly different colour , ? What’s to say banksy ain’t your pants down with the supposed real ones 🤣
Watching David talk to himself via his multiple accounts as two different people (lab & Steve Perkins) is my new favourite thing. I’m sorry I’ve questioned you in the past David. Please never change. This is gold.
Here here Mr Steve Perkins Don’t know what all the fuss is about, It’s only a cheap old poster , no coa , who cares stick it on your wall , what difference does it make if it’s a slightly different colour , ? What’s to say banksy ain’t your pants down with the supposed real ones 🤣 Watching David talk to himself via his multiple accounts as two different people (lab & Steve Perkins) is my new favourite thing. I’m sorry I’ve questioned you in the past David. Please never change. This is gold. |
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Banksy Petrol bomb - fake vs genuine, by tab1 on Nov 29, 2020 1:07:01 GMT 1, Surely we’re at this stage by now .....
One person
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Banksy Petrol bomb - fake vs genuine, by tab1 on Nov 29, 2020 1:33:10 GMT 1, Here here Mr Steve Perkins Don’t know what all the fuss is about, It’s only a cheap old poster , no coa , who cares stick it on your wall , what difference does it make if it’s a slightly different colour , ? What’s to say banksy ain’t your pants down with the supposed real ones 🤣 urbanartassociation.com/user/28287/recent_threadsWatching David talk to himself via his multiple accounts as two different people (lab & Steve Perkins) is my new favourite thing. I’m sorry I’ve questioned you in the past David. Please never change. This is gold.
And it all started with a £5 poster👀
The gallery will take a big hit in public faith once this all becomes public knowledge
A group has made a lot of money through these fakes through their links to galleries , auctions houses and internet wheeler dealers
Would anyone still consider consigning with this gallery / auction house at present ? Could end up like a pyramid scheme using new money to refund all past sales ?
Here here Mr Steve Perkins Don’t know what all the fuss is about, It’s only a cheap old poster , no coa , who cares stick it on your wall , what difference does it make if it’s a slightly different colour , ? What’s to say banksy ain’t your pants down with the supposed real ones 🤣 urbanartassociation.com/user/28287/recent_threadsWatching David talk to himself via his multiple accounts as two different people (lab & Steve Perkins) is my new favourite thing. I’m sorry I’ve questioned you in the past David. Please never change. This is gold. And it all started with a £5 poster👀 The gallery will take a big hit in public faith once this all becomes public knowledge A group has made a lot of money through these fakes through their links to galleries , auctions houses and internet wheeler dealers Would anyone still consider consigning with this gallery / auction house at present ? Could end up like a pyramid scheme using new money to refund all past sales ? |
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Banksy Petrol bomb - fake vs genuine, by Rubberneck on Nov 29, 2020 1:39:50 GMT 1, Well done Jamie!
A group action may be the way forward, refunds at current value should be sought. It’s what I would want.
A chance to get the genuine poster you were sold in the first place. Power in numbers.
Good luck!
Well done Jamie!
A group action may be the way forward, refunds at current value should be sought. It’s what I would want.
A chance to get the genuine poster you were sold in the first place. Power in numbers.
Good luck!
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Banksy Petrol bomb - fake vs genuine, by jeezuzjonessnr on Nov 29, 2020 3:59:58 GMT 1, Hats off to Jamie for bringing this to everyone's attention. Hopefully in the background Tate ward would be looking at all the posters they have sold previously as others maybe fake also, not just the the petrol bomb posters..
Hats off to Jamie for bringing this to everyone's attention. Hopefully in the background Tate ward would be looking at all the posters they have sold previously as others maybe fake also, not just the the petrol bomb posters..
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Banksy Petrol bomb - fake vs genuine, by Lroy on Nov 29, 2020 8:38:18 GMT 1, Hats off to Jamie for bringing this to everyone's attention. Hopefully in the background Tate ward would be looking at all the posters they have sold previously as others maybe fake also, not just the the petrol bomb posters..
Yes, of course.
Just questioning myself ( I know one in Paris 6 doing this kind of ... I can’t named it ! ) , how many galleries, auctions website etc , with links on eBay etc etc are like this , are doing that ?
They should be scrupulous, honest ( when we read that they can’t authenticate a print or poster without a coa, lol ! They know what they are doing , of course ! )..,
As told me a guy holding a reputable contemporary gallery, same rules and strong survey should be on these street-art or print markets galeries .
Hats off to Jamie for bringing this to everyone's attention. Hopefully in the background Tate ward would be looking at all the posters they have sold previously as others maybe fake also, not just the the petrol bomb posters.. Yes, of course. Just questioning myself ( I know one in Paris 6 doing this kind of ... I can’t named it ! ) , how many galleries, auctions website etc , with links on eBay etc etc are like this , are doing that ? They should be scrupulous, honest ( when we read that they can’t authenticate a print or poster without a coa, lol ! They know what they are doing , of course ! ).., As told me a guy holding a reputable contemporary gallery, same rules and strong survey should be on these street-art or print markets galeries . |
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Banksy Petrol bomb - fake vs genuine, by Lroy on Nov 29, 2020 10:07:00 GMT 1, Hats off to Jamie for bringing this to everyone's attention. Hopefully in the background Tate ward would be looking at all the posters they have sold previously as others maybe fake also, not just the the petrol bomb posters..
i permit to quote yourself: reading this thread, it’s like a bomb ! Who could imagine that ! All these posters, scammed gents etc .. I’m really very worried for them. It’s money and hard times - and hard times are not new for most of us, no needing corona , lockdown, camera survey and police brutalities..
We are not talking about few quid and some few dishonest single person. But organisations, galeries, something to usually trust... How many ?
This is a crappy world.
Sad, very sad.
Hats off to Jamie for bringing this to everyone's attention. Hopefully in the background Tate ward would be looking at all the posters they have sold previously as others maybe fake also, not just the the petrol bomb posters.. i permit to quote yourself: reading this thread, it’s like a bomb ! Who could imagine that ! All these posters, scammed gents etc .. I’m really very worried for them. It’s money and hard times - and hard times are not new for most of us, no needing corona , lockdown, camera survey and police brutalities.. We are not talking about few quid and some few dishonest single person. But organisations, galeries, something to usually trust... How many ? This is a crappy world. Sad, very sad. |
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Banksy Petrol bomb - fake vs genuine, by dreadware on Nov 29, 2020 10:55:49 GMT 1,
Hi! I would need a bit of help,please (don't know if this is the right thread for it).
I want to purchase a We love you...so love us ,yellow poster.
The poster it self looks good and the colors, the thickness of the paper. The provenance (says the seller) is from an auction. Can you,please recognize the auction site from that photo? It was in August 2nd, this year.
In your opinion, with this information, does it look legit? (costs about 300€)
Thank you!
Hi! I would need a bit of help,please (don't know if this is the right thread for it). I want to purchase a We love you...so love us ,yellow poster. The poster it self looks good and the colors, the thickness of the paper. The provenance (says the seller) is from an auction. Can you,please recognize the auction site from that photo? It was in August 2nd, this year. In your opinion, with this information, does it look legit? (costs about 300€) Thank you! |
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Banksy Petrol bomb - fake vs genuine, by Nuno on Nov 29, 2020 11:38:16 GMT 1, Hi! I would need a bit of help,please (don't know if this is the right thread for it). I want to purchase a We love you...so love us ,yellow poster. The poster it self looks good and the colors, the thickness of the paper. The provenance (says the seller) is from an auction. Can you,please recognize the auction site from that photo? It was in August 2nd, this year. In your opinion, with this information, does it look legit? (costs about 300€) Thank you!
I’d avoid it.
Hi! I would need a bit of help,please (don't know if this is the right thread for it). I want to purchase a We love you...so love us ,yellow poster. The poster it self looks good and the colors, the thickness of the paper. The provenance (says the seller) is from an auction. Can you,please recognize the auction site from that photo? It was in August 2nd, this year. In your opinion, with this information, does it look legit? (costs about 300€) Thank you! I’d avoid it. |
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Banksy Petrol bomb - fake vs genuine, by hnkpnk on Nov 29, 2020 11:45:29 GMT 1, Hi! I would need a bit of help,please (don't know if this is the right thread for it). I want to purchase a We love you...so love us ,yellow poster. The poster it self looks good and the colors, the thickness of the paper. The provenance (says the seller) is from an auction. Can you,please recognize the auction site from that photo? It was in August 2nd, this year. In your opinion, with this information, does it look legit? (costs about 300€) Thank you!
www.liveauctioneers.com/catalog/173136_august-art-auction/?pageSize=120&page=2
Hi! I would need a bit of help,please (don't know if this is the right thread for it). I want to purchase a We love you...so love us ,yellow poster. The poster it self looks good and the colors, the thickness of the paper. The provenance (says the seller) is from an auction. Can you,please recognize the auction site from that photo? It was in August 2nd, this year. In your opinion, with this information, does it look legit? (costs about 300€) Thank you! A lot of fakes on the auction (lot 138): www.liveauctioneers.com/catalog/173136_august-art-auction/?pageSize=120&page=2 |
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Banksy Petrol bomb - fake vs genuine, by dreadware on Nov 29, 2020 11:56:12 GMT 1, Hi! I would need a bit of help,please (don't know if this is the right thread for it). I want to purchase a We love you...so love us ,yellow poster. The poster it self looks good and the colors, the thickness of the paper. The provenance (says the seller) is from an auction. Can you,please recognize the auction site from that photo? It was in August 2nd, this year. In your opinion, with this information, does it look legit? (costs about 300€) Thank you! A lot of fakes on the auction (lot 138): www.liveauctioneers.com/catalog/173136_august-art-auction/?pageSize=120&page=2
Hi! I would need a bit of help,please (don't know if this is the right thread for it). I want to purchase a We love you...so love us ,yellow poster. The poster it self looks good and the colors, the thickness of the paper. The provenance (says the seller) is from an auction. Can you,please recognize the auction site from that photo? It was in August 2nd, this year. In your opinion, with this information, does it look legit? (costs about 300€) Thank you! A lot of fakes on the auction (lot 138): www.liveauctioneers.com/catalog/173136_august-art-auction/?pageSize=120&page=2Thank you very much! That what I was looking for. Great info! |
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hnkpnk
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Banksy Petrol bomb - fake vs genuine, by hnkpnk on Nov 29, 2020 12:25:17 GMT 1, Thank you very much! That what I was looking for. Great info!
Thank you very much! That what I was looking for. Great info! I hope you realize that as the large majority of the Banksys in that auction are guaranteed fakes the chances of this being real are pretty slim. |
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jamieb
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Banksy Petrol bomb - fake vs genuine, by jamieb on Nov 29, 2020 12:49:22 GMT 1, Thanks to everyone who has supported me for bringing this to everyones attention.
And to those trying to shout me down we all know why that is.
I did think long and hard about actually naming people as I had got my refund, had a conversation and been given a plausible excuse.
Afer a conversation with Matt I was more concerned.
Having supplied all my info to Nick/Lobster on why mine was fake and what a genuine looked like, all the tell tale signs of a fake and a long conversation about it, to see them still being sold two months later I couldn't let it go knowing people were still being sold fakes.
I know also now know that losing bidders on Tateward auctions have been contacted after and still sold posters as they happen to have a few more.
Honestly the more I dig the more I find.
There were only 2,000 of this posters but there seems to be a never ending supply.
Thanks to everyone who has supported me for bringing this to everyones attention.
And to those trying to shout me down we all know why that is.
I did think long and hard about actually naming people as I had got my refund, had a conversation and been given a plausible excuse.
Afer a conversation with Matt I was more concerned.
Having supplied all my info to Nick/Lobster on why mine was fake and what a genuine looked like, all the tell tale signs of a fake and a long conversation about it, to see them still being sold two months later I couldn't let it go knowing people were still being sold fakes.
I know also now know that losing bidders on Tateward auctions have been contacted after and still sold posters as they happen to have a few more.
Honestly the more I dig the more I find.
There were only 2,000 of this posters but there seems to be a never ending supply.
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medichead
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Banksy Petrol bomb - fake vs genuine, by medichead on Nov 29, 2020 13:04:39 GMT 1, Starting to look more like a police matter than a forum one
Starting to look more like a police matter than a forum one
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artcave
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Banksy Petrol bomb - fake vs genuine, by artcave on Nov 29, 2020 13:20:09 GMT 1, Just keep hitting that print button. It's like a well which never runs dry. For as long as there are outlets selling them, the flow of fakes will never stop and going forward will only get worse.
Just keep hitting that print button. It's like a well which never runs dry. For as long as there are outlets selling them, the flow of fakes will never stop and going forward will only get worse.
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Banksy Petrol bomb - fake vs genuine, by Lroy on Nov 29, 2020 13:47:37 GMT 1,
Lol ! It’s a patchwork of fakes ! I laughed when I saw Artsy or Catawiki ( same shit anyway ) where on one petrol Bomb, they make a mix of blue and brown darker background ones ! The one on Drouot is epic too ! Why Tateward leaves this brown one on line anyway ?
Anyway it’s not funny ! Thanks for this great rock roll circus !
Well, maybe they ignore laws about fake art... what’s about the press and newspapers ?
Maybe too, PC - I know that they have a lot of work to do - will authenticate posters now ( not anymore prints anyway ) : it’s not anymore leisure’s and souvenirs it’s 2,3, 6 k art ! And it will grow up for the real original ones ...
Lol ! It’s a patchwork of fakes ! I laughed when I saw Artsy or Catawiki ( same shit anyway ) where on one petrol Bomb, they make a mix of blue and brown darker background ones ! The one on Drouot is epic too ! Why Tateward leaves this brown one on line anyway ? Anyway it’s not funny ! Thanks for this great rock roll circus ! Well, maybe they ignore laws about fake art... what’s about the press and newspapers ? Maybe too, PC - I know that they have a lot of work to do - will authenticate posters now ( not anymore prints anyway ) : it’s not anymore leisure’s and souvenirs it’s 2,3, 6 k art ! And it will grow up for the real original ones ... |
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lab
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Banksy Petrol bomb - fake vs genuine, by lab on Nov 29, 2020 13:58:27 GMT 1, Lol ! It’s a patchwork of fakes ! I laughed when I saw Artsy or Catawiki ( same shit anyway ) where on one petrol Bomb, they make a mix of blue and brown darker background ones ! The one on Drouot is epic too ! Why Tateward leaves this brown one on line anyway ? Anyway it’s not funny ! Thanks for this great rock roll circus ! Well, maybe they ignore laws about fake art... what’s about the press and newspapers ? Maybe too, PC - I know that they have a lot of work to do - will authenticate posters now ( not anymore prints anyway ) : it’s not anymore leisure’s and souvenirs it’s 2,3, 6 k art ! And it will grow up for the real original ones ...
Think Steve perkins is the bollocks , he should become a hero of this forum, he’s a great wheeler dealer and he wouldn’t have been a big enough fool to have bought a fake petrol bomb for thousands, let’s take our hats off to him for entertaining this forum for the last month while there’s been a load of idiots wasting there money on fake shit .🤣
Think those that have bought them should get on with it now.
Who knows they could become worth more money in the future coz it was banksys mum printing the fakes😂😂
Lol ! It’s a patchwork of fakes ! I laughed when I saw Artsy or Catawiki ( same shit anyway ) where on one petrol Bomb, they make a mix of blue and brown darker background ones ! The one on Drouot is epic too ! Why Tateward leaves this brown one on line anyway ? Anyway it’s not funny ! Thanks for this great rock roll circus ! Well, maybe they ignore laws about fake art... what’s about the press and newspapers ? Maybe too, PC - I know that they have a lot of work to do - will authenticate posters now ( not anymore prints anyway ) : it’s not anymore leisure’s and souvenirs it’s 2,3, 6 k art ! And it will grow up for the real original ones ... Think Steve perkins is the bollocks , he should become a hero of this forum, he’s a great wheeler dealer and he wouldn’t have been a big enough fool to have bought a fake petrol bomb for thousands, let’s take our hats off to him for entertaining this forum for the last month while there’s been a load of idiots wasting there money on fake shit .🤣 Think those that have bought them should get on with it now. Who knows they could become worth more money in the future coz it was banksys mum printing the fakes😂😂 |
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Banksy Petrol bomb - fake vs genuine, by Rubberneck on Nov 29, 2020 14:02:44 GMT 1, Also selling directly, privately over PM. That is the most damning as its direct.
If I was a victim of this I would definitely be connecting to other people affected and working out legal action together. What concerns me is that this is not limited to just these posters. Other posters, save and delete and soupcans, should seriously be examined, then prints and other artists work. Seems to be a deliberate and well orchestrated scam.
Also selling directly, privately over PM. That is the most damning as its direct. If I was a victim of this I would definitely be connecting to other people affected and working out legal action together. What concerns me is that this is not limited to just these posters. Other posters, save and delete and soupcans, should seriously be examined, then prints and other artists work. Seems to be a deliberate and well orchestrated scam. |
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