jamieb
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Banksy Petrol bomb - fake vs genuine, by jamieb on Oct 1, 2020 9:38:42 GMT 1, I recently bought a petrol from what I thought was a good source.
When I received it I was 99% sure it was fake and have returned it for a refund.
I used this thread as a way to fact check against images of the real one at the book fair
Pictures of the book fair version
I think there are lots of issues with the most obvious being the damaged Tesco logo.
Other include, overal dark, filled in smoke, Moire pattern when examined under a eyeglass, printed dot on the white border from a previous scan?
I thought I'd post the pictures of mine to seek opinion and maybe help others spot a fake.
   
I recently bought a petrol from what I thought was a good source. When I received it I was 99% sure it was fake and have returned it for a refund. I used this thread as a way to fact check against images of the real one at the book fair Pictures of the book fair versionI think there are lots of issues with the most obvious being the damaged Tesco logo. Other include, overal dark, filled in smoke, Moire pattern when examined under a eyeglass, printed dot on the white border from a previous scan? I thought I'd post the pictures of mine to seek opinion and maybe help others spot a fake. |
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Banksy Petrol bomb - fake vs genuine, by inefficiencyof on Oct 1, 2020 10:14:37 GMT 1, I would say good call with sending this back and recognising that as a fake. Poor quality reproduction.
I would say good call with sending this back and recognising that as a fake. Poor quality reproduction.
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cmc
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Banksy Petrol bomb - fake vs genuine, by cmc on Oct 1, 2020 10:28:49 GMT 1, Would be good to know where it came from so others can be forewarned.
Would be good to know where it came from so others can be forewarned.
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dubman
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Banksy Petrol bomb - fake vs genuine, by dubman on Oct 1, 2020 11:50:00 GMT 1, As fuck!
As fuck!
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jp
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Banksy Petrol bomb - fake vs genuine, by jp on Oct 30, 2020 21:52:52 GMT 1, I recently bought a petrol from what I thought was a good source. When I received it I was 99% sure it was fake and have returned it for a refund. I used this thread as a way to fact check against images of the real one at the book fair Pictures of the book fair versionI think there are lots of issues with the most obvious being the damaged Tesco logo. Other include, overal dark, filled in smoke, Moire pattern when examined under a eyeglass, printed dot on the white border from a previous scan? I thought I'd post the pictures of mine to seek opinion and maybe help others spot a fake.
I recently bought a petrol from what I thought was a good source. When I received it I was 99% sure it was fake and have returned it for a refund. I used this thread as a way to fact check against images of the real one at the book fair Pictures of the book fair versionI think there are lots of issues with the most obvious being the damaged Tesco logo. Other include, overal dark, filled in smoke, Moire pattern when examined under a eyeglass, printed dot on the white border from a previous scan? I thought I'd post the pictures of mine to seek opinion and maybe help others spot a fake. Who was the "good source" that turned out to be a bad source? |
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floubi
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Banksy Petrol bomb - fake vs genuine, by floubi on Nov 25, 2020 7:41:23 GMT 1, When those were originaly sold, I immediatly bought one on the bay. It was guenuine but it arrives totally damaged. The seller sent it in a square tube he bought at the post office, that arrived totally smashed (it gives a "certain style" to the print, I kept it)
I immediatly bought another one , and it was a fake one. They started doing fake ones just after a few days of the release.
Main difference beside what is already said above, is the paper and type of impression.
Real ones are on a quite thick paper and kind of brilliant , like most of showcards.
When those were originaly sold, I immediatly bought one on the bay. It was guenuine but it arrives totally damaged. The seller sent it in a square tube he bought at the post office, that arrived totally smashed (it gives a "certain style" to the print, I kept it)
I immediatly bought another one , and it was a fake one. They started doing fake ones just after a few days of the release.
Main difference beside what is already said above, is the paper and type of impression.
Real ones are on a quite thick paper and kind of brilliant , like most of showcards.
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Lroy
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Banksy Petrol bomb - fake vs genuine, by Lroy on Nov 25, 2020 11:57:18 GMT 1, When those were originaly sold, I immediatly bought one on the bay. It was guenuine but it arrives totally damaged. The seller sent it in a square tube he bought at the post office, that arrived totally smashed (it gives a "certain style" to the print, I kept it) I immediatly bought another one , and it was a fake one. They started doing fake ones just after a few days of the release. Main difference beside what is already said above, is the paper and type of impression. Real ones are on a quite thick paper and kind of brilliant , like most of showcards.
Anyway, I am sure to got a real one, in the plastic bag, mint etc etc..
The one you are showing Jamie is really brown lol !
I don't know how it must cost now...
When those were originaly sold, I immediatly bought one on the bay. It was guenuine but it arrives totally damaged. The seller sent it in a square tube he bought at the post office, that arrived totally smashed (it gives a "certain style" to the print, I kept it) I immediatly bought another one , and it was a fake one. They started doing fake ones just after a few days of the release. Main difference beside what is already said above, is the paper and type of impression. Real ones are on a quite thick paper and kind of brilliant , like most of showcards. Totally agreeing ! I bought one to a guy with a family ( we are friends on FCBK now ) , the day or the day after the launch earlier the morning. But I paid the price ( guys from Brizzle have had a great gift from Banksy : for 5 pounds each, they were allowed to buy 3 or 5, no 3 I think - and more if you have family ), around 200 or 250 or less ! ... Anyway, I am sure to got a real one, in the plastic bag, mint etc etc..
The one you are showing Jamie is really brown lol !
I don't know how it must cost now...
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jamieb
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Banksy Petrol bomb - fake vs genuine, by jamieb on Nov 25, 2020 14:39:14 GMT 1, Mine was a very obvious fake due to label having damage.
But having spoken with a lot of members there seems to be a lot of fakes out there.
Unless the label is a good bright blue, the bottle bright and the smoke has lots of detail then it's a fake - see image, judging by the image of the one Tate sold yesterday then that was possibly a fake too?
Mine was a very obvious fake due to label having damage. But having spoken with a lot of members there seems to be a lot of fakes out there. Unless the label is a good bright blue, the bottle bright and the smoke has lots of detail then it's a fake - see image, judging by the image of the one Tate sold yesterday then that was possibly a fake too? |
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jamieb
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Banksy Petrol bomb - fake vs genuine, by jamieb on Nov 25, 2020 14:50:43 GMT 1, Any images from the actual time reporting the actual posters are very bright - all the dark ones are fake.
There aren't 2 versions. There were 2000 printed, there is now way there could be that much colour variation in such a short litho run, a press will rattle through 2,000 in a few minutes.
Probably printed 2 up and the guillotined and packed, so only 1,000 sheets through the press.
Any images from the actual time reporting the actual posters are very bright - all the dark ones are fake. There aren't 2 versions. There were 2000 printed, there is now way there could be that much colour variation in such a short litho run, a press will rattle through 2,000 in a few minutes. Probably printed 2 up and the guillotined and packed, so only 1,000 sheets through the press. |
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jamieb
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Banksy Petrol bomb - fake vs genuine, by jamieb on Nov 25, 2020 14:56:29 GMT 1, I would say that is real IMHO.
It's just a little bit of an underexposed photo which is not the same as dark printing.
The blue is still bright and the smoke has the details.
As a designer of 25+ years it's all very obvious to me but I can see why so many buy fakes or even why auction houses have no clue either and sell them.
I'm just surprised the fakes are poor, if had done it, I would do a way better job of getting the colours right. 
I would say that is real IMHO. It's just a little bit of an underexposed photo which is not the same as dark printing. The blue is still bright and the smoke has the details. As a designer of 25+ years it's all very obvious to me but I can see why so many buy fakes or even why auction houses have no clue either and sell them. I'm just surprised the fakes are poor, if had done it, I would do a way better job of getting the colours right. |
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Lroy
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Banksy Petrol bomb - fake vs genuine, by Lroy on Nov 25, 2020 15:39:04 GMT 1, I would say that is real IMHO. It's just a little bit of an underexposed photo which is not the same as dark printing. The blue is still bright and the smoke has the details. As a designer of 25+ years it's all very obvious to me but I can see why so many buy fakes or even why auction houses have no clue either and sell them. I'm just surprised the fakes are poor, if had done it, I would do a way better job of getting the colours right. Yes, and the paper is very thin - compared to the Soupcans of Bristol msueums ones. Well, I was happy to get a Banksy then, but 1200 euros...
These prices.....
I would say that is real IMHO. It's just a little bit of an underexposed photo which is not the same as dark printing. The blue is still bright and the smoke has the details. As a designer of 25+ years it's all very obvious to me but I can see why so many buy fakes or even why auction houses have no clue either and sell them. I'm just surprised the fakes are poor, if had done it, I would do a way better job of getting the colours right. Yes, and the paper is very thin - compared to the Soupcans of Bristol msueums ones. Well, I was happy to get a Banksy then, but 1200 euros...
These prices.....
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Banksy Petrol bomb - fake vs genuine, by popgoestheart on Nov 25, 2020 16:03:55 GMT 1, I would say that is real IMHO. It's just a little bit of an underexposed photo which is not the same as dark printing. The blue is still bright and the smoke has the details. As a designer of 25+ years it's all very obvious to me but I can see why so many buy fakes or even why auction houses have no clue either and sell them. I'm just surprised the fakes are poor, if had done it, I would do a way better job of getting the colours right.
I would say that is real IMHO. It's just a little bit of an underexposed photo which is not the same as dark printing. The blue is still bright and the smoke has the details. As a designer of 25+ years it's all very obvious to me but I can see why so many buy fakes or even why auction houses have no clue either and sell them. I'm just surprised the fakes are poor, if had done it, I would do a way better job of getting the colours right. Very interesting thanks. I don't know enough about these things! |
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Banksy Petrol bomb - fake vs genuine, by tab1 on Nov 25, 2020 16:15:00 GMT 1, 🤯
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Banksy Petrol bomb - fake vs genuine, by terryfuckwitt on Nov 25, 2020 16:16:10 GMT 1,
Stored flat up against an archival brick wall🤣
Stored flat up against an archival brick wall🤣 |
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Banksy Petrol bomb - fake vs genuine, by floubi on Nov 25, 2020 16:19:04 GMT 1, Stored flat up against an archival brick wall🤣 
Stored flat up against an archival brick wall🤣 I would say it gives a certain style to the print |
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Banksy Petrol bomb - fake vs genuine, by gross on Nov 25, 2020 16:20:41 GMT 1, Stored flat up against an archival brick wall🤣 I would say it gives a certain style to the print
My one is the same than this one
Stored flat up against an archival brick wall🤣 I would say it gives a certain style to the print My one is the same than this one |
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Banksy Petrol bomb - fake vs genuine, by terryfuckwitt on Nov 25, 2020 16:23:18 GMT 1, Stored flat up against an archival brick wall🤣 I would say it gives a certain style to the print
I love it! How the hell did it get like this though? Did you fold it up and put it in your wallet?
Stored flat up against an archival brick wall🤣 I would say it gives a certain style to the print I love it! How the hell did it get like this though? Did you fold it up and put it in your wallet? |
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floubi
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Banksy Petrol bomb - fake vs genuine, by floubi on Nov 25, 2020 16:29:18 GMT 1, I would say it gives a certain style to the print I love it! How the hell did it get like this though? Did you fold it up and put it in your wallet?
hahaha
The seller sent it in this tube!!!!! (Royal mail tube) , thinking it will arrive safely, unbelivable.... So crazy that I kept the tube 
I would say it gives a certain style to the print I love it! How the hell did it get like this though? Did you fold it up and put it in your wallet? hahaha The seller sent it in this tube!!!!! (Royal mail tube) , thinking it will arrive safely, unbelivable.... So crazy that I kept the tube |
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