medichead
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Stop And Search for Sale, by medichead on Oct 4, 2020 9:33:55 GMT 1, Additionally, some buyers are attracted to the provenance of a piece being sold at Christieโs / Sothebyโs. Overlooking that would give a misleading impression of the value of a piece when trying to sell it over private messages of an urban art forum.
But since bob says this is worth ยฃ150k, Iโm sure thatโs what itโll sell for ๐
Additionally, some buyers are attracted to the provenance of a piece being sold at Christieโs / Sothebyโs. Overlooking that would give a misleading impression of the value of a piece when trying to sell it over private messages of an urban art forum.
But since bob says this is worth ยฃ150k, Iโm sure thatโs what itโll sell for ๐
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reg
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Stop And Search for Sale, by reg on Oct 4, 2020 9:37:47 GMT 1, Yep.
People dropping ยฃ100k at an auction house perhaps don't want to trawl these boards searching for evidence of what the COA shouldn't look like and seeking references about sellers from other forum members. That's what the 25% fees gets you via auctions but end of the day it'll be the same print and the same provenance.
Yep.
People dropping ยฃ100k at an auction house perhaps don't want to trawl these boards searching for evidence of what the COA shouldn't look like and seeking references about sellers from other forum members. That's what the 25% fees gets you via auctions but end of the day it'll be the same print and the same provenance.
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medichead
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Stop And Search for Sale, by medichead on Oct 4, 2020 10:02:44 GMT 1, I'd advise you to hold on for a price precedent. I think this print is easily worth ยฃ150k.
Just to hammer the point home, in case there was any remaining doubt:
if you genuinely think something is easily underpriced by ยฃ50k, youโve identified a pretty handsome investment opportunity that Iโm sure youโll be capitalising on.
We all know youโve got the minerals to do it. Congratulations. ๐
I'd advise you to hold on for a price precedent. I think this print is easily worth ยฃ150k. Just to hammer the point home, in case there was any remaining doubt: if you genuinely think something is easily underpriced by ยฃ50k, youโve identified a pretty handsome investment opportunity that Iโm sure youโll be capitalising on. We all know youโve got the minerals to do it. Congratulations. ๐
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Winter
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Stop And Search for Sale, by Winter on Oct 4, 2020 10:39:03 GMT 1, Are there many ยฃ100k trades via this forum? Happy to stand corrected but whilst many on here are collectors and enthusiasts there aren't that many with ยฃ100k in pockets waiting to be spent. As for valuation. Suspect we'll get that from Tate Ward in a couple of weeks when one of these comes under the hammer. If that hammer price is south of ยฃ90k or so then maybe the asking price was too high.
All the dealers and galleries trawl through this forum.
Are there many ยฃ100k trades via this forum? Happy to stand corrected but whilst many on here are collectors and enthusiasts there aren't that many with ยฃ100k in pockets waiting to be spent. As for valuation. Suspect we'll get that from Tate Ward in a couple of weeks when one of these comes under the hammer. If that hammer price is south of ยฃ90k or so then maybe the asking price was too high. All the dealers and galleries trawl through this forum.
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Poster Bob
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Stop And Search for Sale, by Poster Bob on Oct 4, 2020 11:18:30 GMT 1, By the logic of this forum the following applies: if a ยฃ50,00,000 Picasso doesn't sell at a yard sale for ยฃ10 it's worthless; the sales section on this forum is not equivalent to Christie's private sales. That print is undervalued and needs a price precedent; the current auction at a third-tier auction house may not provide it and you'll need for one to surface at Christie's or Sotheby's. Prices are climbing and you're dealing with large sums of money, auction a major house may soon be the new norm as opposed to private sale to guarantee access to those with the deepest pockets.
By the logic of this forum the following applies: if a ยฃ50,00,000 Picasso doesn't sell at a yard sale for ยฃ10 it's worthless; the sales section on this forum is not equivalent to Christie's private sales. That print is undervalued and needs a price precedent; the current auction at a third-tier auction house may not provide it and you'll need for one to surface at Christie's or Sotheby's. Prices are climbing and you're dealing with large sums of money, auction a major house may soon be the new norm as opposed to private sale to guarantee access to those with the deepest pockets.
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Rubberneck
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Stop And Search for Sale, by Rubberneck on Oct 4, 2020 11:23:45 GMT 1, Iโve got deep pockets, itโs just that my arms are short..
Iโve got deep pockets, itโs just that my arms are short..
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reg
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Stop And Search for Sale, by reg on Oct 4, 2020 11:33:32 GMT 1, By the logic of this forum the following applies: if a ยฃ50,00,000 Picasso doesn't sell at a yard sale for ยฃ10 it's worthless; the sales section on this forum is not equivalent to Christie's private sales. That print is undervalued and needs a price precedent; the current auction at a third-tier auction house may not provide it and you'll need for one to surface at Christie's or Sotheby's. Prices are climbing and you're dealing with large sums of money, auction a major house may soon be the new norm as opposed to private sale to guarantee access to those with the deepest pockets.
You put it better than I tried to. The number of available buyers on this forum shrinks as prices increase. The value of anything is determined by the amount that any one person will pay. Increasingly, that amount is the preserve of the wealthy via auction houses rather than forum dwellers.
By the logic of this forum the following applies: if a ยฃ50,00,000 Picasso doesn't sell at a yard sale for ยฃ10 it's worthless; the sales section on this forum is not equivalent to Christie's private sales. That print is undervalued and needs a price precedent; the current auction at a third-tier auction house may not provide it and you'll need for one to surface at Christie's or Sotheby's. Prices are climbing and you're dealing with large sums of money, auction a major house may soon be the new norm as opposed to private sale to guarantee access to those with the deepest pockets. You put it better than I tried to. The number of available buyers on this forum shrinks as prices increase. The value of anything is determined by the amount that any one person will pay. Increasingly, that amount is the preserve of the wealthy via auction houses rather than forum dwellers.
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Winter
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Stop And Search for Sale, by Winter on Oct 4, 2020 12:55:25 GMT 1, Id imagine most of the auction houses are desperate for these kinds of work. I spoke to a person at Phillips who said they were struggling to get Banksy works.
Id imagine most of the auction houses are desperate for these kinds of work. I spoke to a person at Phillips who said they were struggling to get Banksy works.
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therivler1
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Stop And Search for Sale, by therivler1 on Oct 4, 2020 13:18:47 GMT 1, Better not tell Mrs McGill or she'll have it off the wall. how much did it sell?
60k + fees
Better not tell Mrs McGill or she'll have it off the wall. how much did it sell? 60k + fees
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robo
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Stop And Search for Sale, by robo on Oct 4, 2020 20:54:15 GMT 1, By the logic of this forum the following applies: if a ยฃ50,00,000 Picasso doesn't sell at a yard sale for ยฃ10 it's worthless; the sales section on this forum is not equivalent to Christie's private sales. That print is undervalued and needs a price precedent; the current auction at a third-tier auction house may not provide it and you'll need for one to surface at Christie's or Sotheby's. Prices are climbing and you're dealing with large sums of money, auction a major house may soon be the new norm as opposed to private sale to guarantee access to those with the deepest pockets.
Well put!
By the logic of this forum the following applies: if a ยฃ50,00,000 Picasso doesn't sell at a yard sale for ยฃ10 it's worthless; the sales section on this forum is not equivalent to Christie's private sales. That print is undervalued and needs a price precedent; the current auction at a third-tier auction house may not provide it and you'll need for one to surface at Christie's or Sotheby's. Prices are climbing and you're dealing with large sums of money, auction a major house may soon be the new norm as opposed to private sale to guarantee access to those with the deepest pockets. Well put!
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