[tesla]

Hi,

I have Virgil Abloh on canvas works looking to sell. (Above 60 x 60 inches)

Provenance from Gagosian and Kaikaikiki.

Virgil recently did exhibitions at MCA Chicago, MCA Boston and many other major institutions lined up because of Kenneth Griffin support, I'm selling some of his canvas works while keeping some. 

His works are very hard to come by and with long waiting lists at primary market.

Please DM if you are seriously interested and familiar with Virgil's artwork prices.  

Thank you all. 

[tesla]

Sept 18, 2020 1:48:23 GMT 1 derivitive said:

Why not auction if work is hard to get?

Also, how many drugs were you on when you bought it?

Auction houses bring too much attention, commission fees, and I'm not a big fan talking with auction sales associates. I'm still going to hold on to at least three other of Virgil large canvases and sculptures. Time will tell, in 30-70 years later, when people check the news, the significance of his work will rival that of Marcel Duchamp and Warhol, both of whom were also highly controversial back in the day. 

If Warhol and Duchamp had IG they would both be even bigger than they are today.

Also Virgil recently got strong Kenneth Griffin (The Citadel guy) support, that's why he's showing in multiple museums starting with MCA Chicago.

Kenneth Griffin is a whale with very significant influence across multiple worlds.

www.chicagobusiness.com/finance-banking/ken-griffin-buys-painting-more-100-million

[tesla]

Sept 18, 2020 1:32:49 GMT 1 mattmma22 said:

does it come with a free 8-ball? 😤

I can arrange to have a $50 dollar bill included in the crate.

[tesla]

Sept 18, 2020 2:12:28 GMT 1 derivitive said:

Sept 18, 2020 2:09:06 GMT 1 tesla said:

Auction houses bring too much attention, commission fees, and I'm not a big fan talking with auction sales associates. I'm still going to hold on to at least three other of Virgil large canvases and sculptures. Time will tell, in 30-70 years later, when people check the news, the significance of his work will rival that of Marcel Duchamp and Warhol, both of whom were also highly controversial back in the day. 

If Warhol and Duchamp had IG they would both be even bigger than they are today.

Also Virgil recently got strong Kenneth Griffin (The Citadel guy) support, that's why he's showing in multiple museums starting with MCA Chicago.

Kenneth Griffin is a whale with very significant influence across multiple worlds.

www.chicagobusiness.com/finance-banking/ken-griffin-buys-painting-more-100-million

Virgil also has Kanye money and can be buying his way into the stardom. Do you really think in 30 to 70 the art world is going to look at a canvas that says "television" as something significant? I would say fi anything the story of Virgil is more about someone who had terrible taste can buy his way into the fashion and art world.

That, of course, I agree 100% Kanye led Virgil into the inner fashion and art world.

However, that black canvas with "Television" and billboard logos are, in my personal opinion, as significant as Duchamp's snow shovel, which is currently in MoMA. The black canvases showed Virgil's questioning of the over-exploitation of the advertisement and the hook of consumerism. If he's smart, he will also spin his ridiculously priced sneakers and socks as his art practice. (Art is what you can get away with...)

The thing about contemporary conceptual art is that once the artist has the right connections with institutions, good curators will legitimize the works with academic high ground. These conceptual art are very significant in the long run.

Always open discussions; these are my personal opinions, and of course the focus on minority artists nowadays and to drive ticket sales and merch sales as well as pressure from major collectors and patrons like Kenneth Griffin, major museums like MCA Boston, MET, MoMA, MCA Chicago will all bend to the conceptual art supported by enough capital.

[tesla]

Sept 18, 2020 2:21:01 GMT 1 tesla said:

Sept 18, 2020 2:12:28 GMT 1 derivitive said:

Virgil also has Kanye money and can be buying his way into the stardom. Do you really think in 30 to 70 the art world is going to look at a canvas that says "television" as something significant? I would say fi anything the story of Virgil is more about someone who had terrible taste can buy his way into the fashion and art world.

That, of course, I agree 100% Kanye led Virgil into the inner fashion and art world.

However, that black canvas with "Television" and billboard logos are, in my personal opinion, as significant as Duchamp's snow shovel, which is currently in MoMA. The black canvases showed Virgil's questioning of the over-exploitation of the advertisement and the hook of consumerism. If he's smart, he will also spin his ridiculously priced sneakers and socks as his art practice. (Art is what you can get away with...)

The thing about contemporary conceptual art is that once the artist has the right connections with institutions, good curators will legitimize the works with academic high ground. These conceptual art are very significant in the long run.

Always open discussions; these are my personal opinions, and of course the focus on minority artists nowadays and to drive ticket sales and merch sales as well as pressure from major collectors and patrons like Kenneth Griffin, major museums like MCA Boston, MET, MoMA, MCA Chicago will all bend to the conceptual art supported by enough capital.

[Gentle Mental]

A place in fashion history. Yes. Sure. Like erm.. Calvin Klein was in the eighties?

Art history like Duchamp? Ooooooh. Not very quite just yet by a thousand miles.


My advice is to let it all go before the next hot fashion person comes along.

[GenghisCan]

the ones with mirror finish are amazing!

[Deleted]

Virgil is the new paris Hilton.

Talentless and somehow a star. He’s no artist

[kfroms]

Working in the fashion industry, I can confirm that Virgil A is not really liked.

That said, his stuff is perfect for the RAV market - Russians, Rappers, Arabs and Villains.

[cnrdvln]

Tesla would love to see your collection some time, private UAA online viewing some time? 🤦‍♂️🤣🤣

[urbanflik]

Tesla you have some big and interesting stuff.

I also would like to see the collection!...

Forum Zoom!

GLWTS

[medichead]

Sept 18, 2020 1:48:23 GMT 1 derivitive said:

Why not auction if work is hard to get?

Also, how many drugs were you on when you bought it?

They would get a good price, but undoubtedly not worth burning the bridges with the galleries that sold works to them.
If you need to ask this, I’m assuming you don’t buy a lot on primary.

[coller]

virgil is the MBW of contemporary art

[elthorno84]

Sept 18, 2020 2:09:06 GMT 1 tesla said:

Sept 18, 2020 1:48:23 GMT 1 derivitive said:

Why not auction if work is hard to get?

Also, how many drugs were you on when you bought it?

Auction houses bring too much attention, commission fees, and I'm not a big fan talking with auction sales associates. I'm still going to hold on to at least three other of Virgil large canvases and sculptures. Time will tell, in 30-70 years later, when people check the news, the significance of his work will rival that of Marcel Duchamp and Warhol, both of whom were also highly controversial back in the day. 

If Warhol and Duchamp had IG they would both be even bigger than they are today.

Also Virgil recently got strong Kenneth Griffin (The Citadel guy) support, that's why he's showing in multiple museums starting with MCA Chicago.

Kenneth Griffin is a whale with very significant influence across multiple worlds.

www.chicagobusiness.com/finance-banking/ken-griffin-buys-painting-more-100-million

HAHAHAHAHAHA

He is a talentless hack who socialised his way in to a position he didn’t deserve over more talented black designers.

[Runit]

Sept 18, 2020 9:06:51 GMT 1 kfroms said:

Working in the fashion industry, I can confirm that Virgil A is not really liked.

That said, his stuff is perfect for the RAV market - Russians, Rappers, Arabs and Villains.

No one like anybody but themselves in the fashion industry.

[Runit]

“Played out”

[kfroms]

Sept 18, 2020 14:27:46 GMT 1 Runit said:

Sept 18, 2020 9:06:51 GMT 1 kfroms said:

Working in the fashion industry, I can confirm that Virgil A is not really liked.

That said, his stuff is perfect for the RAV market - Russians, Rappers, Arabs and Villains.

No one like anybody but themselves in the fashion industry.

Wow, your insider knowledge is very good. Chapeau!
Anyway, moving on.

[duffer31]

He’s just given the G Wagon a makeover. I reckon Mercedes will have the images removed from the internet pretty quickly lol.

[Runit]

Sept 18, 2020 14:33:32 GMT 1 kfroms said:

Sept 18, 2020 14:27:46 GMT 1 Runit said:

No one like anybody but themselves in the fashion industry.

Wow, your insider knowledge is very good. Chapeau!
Anyway, moving on.

So is yours. We’re both right, unless of course you think you’ve got friends..

[Runit]

Sept 18, 2020 14:33:38 GMT 1 duffer31 said:

He’s just given the G Wagon a makeover. I reckon Mercedes will have the images removed from the internet pretty quickly lol.

Does it have “G-wagon” Written on it?

[gmidd]

Sept 18, 2020 14:33:38 GMT 1 duffer31 said:

He’s just given the G Wagon a makeover. I reckon Mercedes will have the images removed from the internet pretty quickly lol.

It actually seems like Mercedes is leaning into the collaboration pretty hard: www.mercedes-benz.com/en/events/mercedes-benz-x-virgil-abloh/. It's definitely an official collab and they're auctioning off a scale replica for charity. 

[kuni]

Sept 18, 2020 15:33:24 GMT 1 gmidd said:

Sept 18, 2020 14:33:38 GMT 1 duffer31 said:

He’s just given the G Wagon a makeover. I reckon Mercedes will have the images removed from the internet pretty quickly lol.

It actually seems like Mercedes is leaning into the collaboration pretty hard: www.mercedes-benz.com/en/events/mercedes-benz-x-virgil-abloh/. It's definitely an official collab and they're auctioning off a scale replica for charity. 

My god that benz is ATROCIOUS. 

[Charlie Bronson]

Sept 18, 2020 12:58:50 GMT 1 coller said:

virgil is the Mr Brainwash of contemporary art

Exit Through the Shoe Store

[kfroms]

Sept 18, 2020 15:37:19 GMT 1 kuni said:

Sept 18, 2020 15:33:24 GMT 1 gmidd said:

It actually seems like Mercedes is leaning into the collaboration pretty hard: www.mercedes-benz.com/en/events/mercedes-benz-x-virgil-abloh/. It's definitely an official collab and they're auctioning off a scale replica for charity. 

My god that benz is ATROCIOUS. 

I actually had to laugh when I saw that thing.

They better keep the blanket on it.

What on earth does a company like Mercedes think??

[tesla]

Sept 18, 2020 15:37:19 GMT 1 kuni said:

Sept 18, 2020 15:33:24 GMT 1 gmidd said:

It actually seems like Mercedes is leaning into the collaboration pretty hard: www.mercedes-benz.com/en/events/mercedes-benz-x-virgil-abloh/. It's definitely an official collab and they're auctioning off a scale replica for charity. 

My god that benz is ATROCIOUS. 

Here's my 50 dollar sense (that $50 Virgil was a bit of PR backfire but he generated a lot of news and then donated a big amount to a fashion scholarship):

www.fashionscholarshipfund.org/virgil-abloh

As we know, the call for more power to minority creatives and minority executives and minority everything is sweeping through the whole earth now. (Which I support 1000%)

And if we own a luxury or mainstream fashion, furniture, or car or anything brand, we do not want to miss out on the opportunity to build the good brand image and CSR (Corporate Social Responsibility sounds horny but it's a key factor used to measure a lot of big brands...), so we find a minority creative who's not simply a creative, because we also want to get the most bang for the buck with the most PR and publicity and buzz created right?

So we take a look around, who can generate the most buzz as a minority creative, that's Virgil Abloh. Either love him or hate him, he's the man at the moment and with all these PR and coverage and institutionalized protection in museums he's getting, when people in 2090 look back to 2015-2025, they will see him as the one who did collaborations across multiple big brands such as LV, IKEA, Mercedes, Baccarat.

Warhol and Duchamp generated way more hatred back in the 1900s...

[kuni]

Sept 18, 2020 15:59:08 GMT 1 tesla said:

Sept 18, 2020 15:37:19 GMT 1 kuni said:

My god that benz is ATROCIOUS. 

Here's my 50 dollar sense (that $50 Virgil was a bit of PR backfire but he generated a lot of news and then donated a big amount to a fashion scholarship):

www.fashionscholarshipfund.org/virgil-abloh

As we know, the call for more power to minority creatives and minority executives and minority everything is sweeping through the whole earth now. (Which I support 1000%)

And if we own a luxury or mainstream fashion, furniture, or car or anything brand, we do not want to miss out on the opportunity to build the good brand image and CSR (Corporate Social Responsibility sounds horny but it's a key factor used to measure a lot of big brands...), so we find a minority creative who's not simply a creative, because we also want to get the most bang for the buck with the most PR and publicity and buzz created right?

So we take a look around, who can generate the most buzz as a minority creative, that's Virgil Abloh. Either love him or hate him, he's the man at the moment and with all these PR and coverage and institutionalized protection in museums he's getting, when people in 2090 look back to 2015-2025, they will see him as the one who did collaborations across multiple big brands such as LV, IKEA, Mercedes, Baccarat.

Warhol and Duchamp generated way more hatred back in the 1900s...

As someone who works at the intersection of marketing and design, I can certainly appreciate (and also approve) of the push to elevate minority designers. I don't really have a problem with VA, and don't consider him a talentless hack. Just the fact that we're sitting her having this debate is a testament to his impact on the world of art and fashion. Virgil is a branding genius. I also think it's smart business for MBS to align themselves with one of the hottest black designers in the universe at the moment. 

But, that all being said, the car is seriously ugly. If you knew nothing about the backstory, and who was associated with it, you'd think it was a joke. If they were striving to create something "raw, natural and altogether more honest" I'd say they came up far short. IMO there's nothing natural or honest about that truck and if anything it's artificial, gaudy and dishonest. The interior is a bit more understated and honest, I'll give them that, but the exterior is offensive. 

[Deleted]

Sept 18, 2020 12:58:50 GMT 1 coller said:

virgil is the Mr Brainwash of contemporary art

Mans takes peoples ideas/art and calls it his own.. I direct music videos and he shamelessly took my whole concept because someone asked him to direct a music video. Proof and evidence on that one too haha

[tesla]

Sept 18, 2020 16:30:20 GMT 1 kuni said:

Sept 18, 2020 15:59:08 GMT 1 tesla said:

Here's my 50 dollar sense (that $50 Virgil was a bit of PR backfire but he generated a lot of news and then donated a big amount to a fashion scholarship):

www.fashionscholarshipfund.org/virgil-abloh

As we know, the call for more power to minority creatives and minority executives and minority everything is sweeping through the whole earth now. (Which I support 1000%)

And if we own a luxury or mainstream fashion, furniture, or car or anything brand, we do not want to miss out on the opportunity to build the good brand image and CSR (Corporate Social Responsibility sounds horny but it's a key factor used to measure a lot of big brands...), so we find a minority creative who's not simply a creative, because we also want to get the most bang for the buck with the most PR and publicity and buzz created right?

So we take a look around, who can generate the most buzz as a minority creative, that's Virgil Abloh. Either love him or hate him, he's the man at the moment and with all these PR and coverage and institutionalized protection in museums he's getting, when people in 2090 look back to 2015-2025, they will see him as the one who did collaborations across multiple big brands such as LV, IKEA, Mercedes, Baccarat.

Warhol and Duchamp generated way more hatred back in the 1900s...

As someone who works at the intersection of marketing and design, I can certainly appreciate (and also approve) of the push to elevate minority designers. I don't really have a problem with VA, and don't consider him a talentless hack. Just the fact that we're sitting her having this debate is a testament to his impact on the world of art and fashion. Virgil is a branding genius. I also think it's smart business for MBS to align themselves with one of the hottest black designers in the universe at the moment. 

But, that all being said, the car is seriously ugly. If you knew nothing about the backstory, and who was associated with it, you'd think it was a joke. If they were striving to create something "raw, natural and altogether more honest" I'd say they came up far short. IMO there's nothing natural or honest about that truck and if anything it's artificial, gaudy and dishonest. The interior is a bit more understated and honest, I'll give them that, but the exterior is offensive. 

Completely agree that the Mercedes design looks ugly on the exterior. However, when judging artworks and evaluating its future institutional and market potential, from my own perspective, I evaluate if the artwork checks certain boxes, from the artwork's concept to the artist's ethnicity and background to the major patron demographics of that artist.

Virgil's certain collabs are ugly and horrible to the eye, but so did the Duchamp snow shovel or Sarah Lucas dildos. However, that does not impact their long-term institutional significance and market potential.

hammer.ucla.edu/exhibitions/2019/sarah-lucas-au-naturel

[tesla]

Hey all,

One canvas has been sold to a collector in HK, one more left.

Thanks to you all this forum is filled with good collectors and again works better and faster than most art advisors out there!