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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข LONDON ๐ฌ๐ง, by lv90210 on Mar 26, 2020 15:38:24 GMT 1, SOME BIG NUMBERS IN THERE.
US PULP ยฃ30,000 / $36,066
US LN ยฃ30,000 / $36,066
US MQ ยฃ13,750 / $16,530
US GR ยฃ40,000 / $48,088
US GS ยฃ13,750 / $16,530
US BL ยฃ27,500 / $33,060
US RC ยฃ27,500 / $33,060
CHOCH DONUTS ยฃ27,500 / $33,060
US Girl With Balloon ยฃ106,250 / $127,733
DI FACED TENNERS ยฃ30,000 / $36,066
SINGED LOVE RAT - ยฃ60,000 / $72,132
SINGED FC - PASSED
PINK Girl With Balloon AP - ยฃ375,000 / $450,825
GRIN REAPER - ยฃ30,000 / $36,066
WHITE NOLA - ยฃ60,000 / $72,132
SINGED APPLAUSE - ยฃ32,500 / $39,071
US FLAGS ยฃ11,875 / $14,276
SINGED CND ยฃ27,500 / $33,060
STRAW DONUTS - ยฃ30,000 / $36,066
US TM ยฃ12,500 / $15,027
US SE ยฃ15,000 / $18,033
US TROLLEYS ยฃ15,000 / $18,033
GOLD FLAGS ยฃ30,000 / $36,066
SIGNED GRANNIES ยฃ30,000 / $36,066
US MORONS ยฃ21,250 / $25,546
SOME BIG NUMBERS IN THERE.
US PULP ยฃ30,000 / $36,066
US LN ยฃ30,000 / $36,066
US MQ ยฃ13,750 / $16,530
US GR ยฃ40,000 / $48,088
US GS ยฃ13,750 / $16,530
US BL ยฃ27,500 / $33,060
US RC ยฃ27,500 / $33,060
CHOCH DONUTS ยฃ27,500 / $33,060
US Girl With Balloon ยฃ106,250 / $127,733
DI FACED TENNERS ยฃ30,000 / $36,066
SINGED LOVE RAT - ยฃ60,000 / $72,132
SINGED FC - PASSED
PINK Girl With Balloon AP - ยฃ375,000 / $450,825
GRIN REAPER - ยฃ30,000 / $36,066
WHITE NOLA - ยฃ60,000 / $72,132
SINGED APPLAUSE - ยฃ32,500 / $39,071
US FLAGS ยฃ11,875 / $14,276
SINGED CND ยฃ27,500 / $33,060
STRAW DONUTS - ยฃ30,000 / $36,066
US TM ยฃ12,500 / $15,027
US SE ยฃ15,000 / $18,033
US TROLLEYS ยฃ15,000 / $18,033
GOLD FLAGS ยฃ30,000 / $36,066
SIGNED GRANNIES ยฃ30,000 / $36,066
US MORONS ยฃ21,250 / $25,546
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Lazarus II
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข LONDON ๐ฌ๐ง, by Lazarus II on Mar 26, 2020 15:45:06 GMT 1, I like my Love Rat just a little bit more today. ๐คฃ
signed obviously?
I like my Love Rat just a little bit more today. ๐คฃ signed obviously? |
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lv90210
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข LONDON ๐ฌ๐ง, by lv90210 on Mar 26, 2020 15:46:26 GMT 1, SOME BIG NUMBERS IN THERE. US PULP ยฃ30,000 / $36,066 US LN ยฃ30,000 / $36,066 US MQ ยฃ13,750 / $16,530 US GR ยฃ40,000 / $48,088 US GS ยฃ13,750 / $16,530 US BL ยฃ27,500 / $33,060 US RC ยฃ27,500 / $33,060 CHOCH DONUTS ยฃ27,500 / $33,060 US Girl With Balloon ยฃ106,250 / $127,733 DI FACED TENNERS ยฃ30,000 / $36,066 SINGED LOVE RAT - ยฃ60,000 / $72,132 SINGED FC - PASSED PINK Girl With Balloon AP - ยฃ375,000 / $450,825 GRIN REAPER - ยฃ30,000 / $36,066 WHITE NOLA - ยฃ60,000 / $72,132 SINGED APPLAUSE - ยฃ32,500 / $39,071 US FLAGS ยฃ11,875 / $14,276 SINGED CND ยฃ27,500 / $33,060 STRAW DONUTS - ยฃ30,000 / $36,066 US TM ยฃ12,500 / $15,027 US SE ยฃ15,000 / $18,033 US TROLLEYS ยฃ15,000 / $18,033 GOLD FLAGS ยฃ30,000 / $36,066 SIGNED GRANNIES ยฃ30,000 / $36,066 US MORONS ยฃ21,250 / $25,546
SOME BIG NUMBERS IN THERE. US PULP ยฃ30,000 / $36,066 US LN ยฃ30,000 / $36,066 US MQ ยฃ13,750 / $16,530 US GR ยฃ40,000 / $48,088 US GS ยฃ13,750 / $16,530 US BL ยฃ27,500 / $33,060 US RC ยฃ27,500 / $33,060 CHOCH DONUTS ยฃ27,500 / $33,060 US Girl With Balloon ยฃ106,250 / $127,733 DI FACED TENNERS ยฃ30,000 / $36,066 SINGED LOVE RAT - ยฃ60,000 / $72,132 SINGED FC - PASSED PINK Girl With Balloon AP - ยฃ375,000 / $450,825 GRIN REAPER - ยฃ30,000 / $36,066 WHITE NOLA - ยฃ60,000 / $72,132 SINGED APPLAUSE - ยฃ32,500 / $39,071 US FLAGS ยฃ11,875 / $14,276 SINGED CND ยฃ27,500 / $33,060 STRAW DONUTS - ยฃ30,000 / $36,066 US TM ยฃ12,500 / $15,027 US SE ยฃ15,000 / $18,033 US TROLLEYS ยฃ15,000 / $18,033 GOLD FLAGS ยฃ30,000 / $36,066 SIGNED GRANNIES ยฃ30,000 / $36,066 US MORONS ยฃ21,250 / $25,546 All numbers above you need to add the ARR, so add another 4%. |
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข LONDON ๐ฌ๐ง, by Poster Bob on Mar 26, 2020 15:47:54 GMT 1, Of course. Unsigned prints are for the hoi polloi!
I like my Love Rat just a little bit more today. ๐คฃ signed obviously?
Of course. Unsigned prints are for the hoi polloi! I like my Love Rat just a little bit more today. ๐คฃ signed obviously? |
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข LONDON ๐ฌ๐ง, by shadowplay on Mar 26, 2020 15:49:00 GMT 1, Very strong results on US prints overall, for insurance reasons can anyone tell how much a mint condition TM us is worth. I am aware that the one just sold for 12.5k had some conditions issues?
Many thanks
Very strong results on US prints overall, for insurance reasons can anyone tell how much a mint condition TM us is worth. I am aware that the one just sold for 12.5k had some conditions issues?
Many thanks
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Lazarus II
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข LONDON ๐ฌ๐ง, by Lazarus II on Mar 26, 2020 15:49:14 GMT 1, Of course. Unsigned prints are for the hoi polloi!
hoi polloi doing not too bad eithers with their unsigned tatt.
Of course. Unsigned prints are for the hoi polloi! hoi polloi doing not too bad eithers with their unsigned tatt. |
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข LONDON ๐ฌ๐ง, by trowel on Mar 26, 2020 16:17:42 GMT 1, Signed Love Rat posse in the house ๐ค
Signed Love Rat posse in the house ๐ค
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข LONDON ๐ฌ๐ง, by The Italian One on Mar 26, 2020 16:43:23 GMT 1, weak BP helped a lot...
(lost almost 10% against EU in 2 weeks)
weak BP helped a lot...
(lost almost 10% against EU in 2 weeks)
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข LONDON ๐ฌ๐ง, by The Italian One on Mar 26, 2020 16:44:25 GMT 1, Isn't there 25%+ 4% Arr to add on top?
4% to be added....
if I'm right
Isn't there 25%+ 4% Arr to add on top? already with 25% 4% to be added.... if I'm right |
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข LONDON ๐ฌ๐ง, by Happy Shopper on Mar 26, 2020 16:46:41 GMT 1, I wonder who's splashing this type of cash during these turbulent times !!?
I wonder who's splashing this type of cash during these turbulent times !!?
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Poster Bob
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข LONDON ๐ฌ๐ง, by Poster Bob on Mar 26, 2020 16:52:01 GMT 1, Jose and family.
I wonder who's splashing this type of cash during these turbulent times !!?
Jose and family. I wonder who's splashing this type of cash during these turbulent times !!? |
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข LONDON ๐ฌ๐ง, by Pipes on Mar 26, 2020 16:52:15 GMT 1, Isn't there 25%+ 4% Arr to add on top?
No. I think these al include the BP.
For example the pink GWB went from 300k to 375k as it closed. They all jumped from bid to close price.
Could be wrong - but looked that way to me.
Isn't there 25%+ 4% Arr to add on top? No. I think these al include the BP. For example the pink GWB went from 300k to 375k as it closed. They all jumped from bid to close price. Could be wrong - but looked that way to me. |
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข LONDON ๐ฌ๐ง, by Nick on Mar 26, 2020 16:52:48 GMT 1, The Strawberry Donut was trimmed right? Outsold the Choc!
The Strawberry Donut was trimmed right? Outsold the Choc!
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข LONDON ๐ฌ๐ง, by Argiebaji on Mar 26, 2020 16:54:06 GMT 1, I wonder who's splashing this type of cash during these turbulent times !!?
Put your money on "gold"
I wonder who's splashing this type of cash during these turbulent times !!? Put your money on "gold" |
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Unica
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข LONDON ๐ฌ๐ง, by Unica on Mar 26, 2020 17:05:10 GMT 1, really impressive result... even tough I don't understand unsigned going higher than signed
really impressive result... even tough I don't understand unsigned going higher than signed It appears collectors want a strong iconic image, hence the unsigned Rats, GWB, Laugh Now fetching more than other signed prints. |
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข LONDON ๐ฌ๐ง, by The Italian One on Mar 26, 2020 17:10:08 GMT 1, really impressive result... even tough I don't understand unsigned going higher than signed It appears collectors want a strong iconic image, hence the unsigned Rats, Girl With Balloon, Laugh Now fetching more than other signed prints. 
really impressive result... even tough I don't understand unsigned going higher than signed It appears collectors want a strong iconic image, hence the unsigned Rats, Girl With Balloon, Laugh Now fetching more than other signed prints. rude copper ... |
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข LONDON ๐ฌ๐ง, by Deleted on Mar 26, 2020 17:20:40 GMT 1, It appears collectors want a strong iconic image, hence the unsigned Rats, Girl With Balloon, Laugh Now fetching more than other signed prints.ย rude copper ...
Iโd be interested to know what the RC would have gone for in top condition.
It appears collectors want a strong iconic image, hence the unsigned Rats, Girl With Balloon, Laugh Now fetching more than other signed prints.ย rude copper ... Iโd be interested to know what the RC would have gone for in top condition. |
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข LONDON ๐ฌ๐ง, by gross on Mar 26, 2020 17:26:23 GMT 1, The Strawberry Donut was trimmed right? Outsold the Choc!
The Strawberry Donut was trimmed right? Outsold the Choc! The sheet reduced in height by approx. 6.5cm, otherwise in good condition, framed. |
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข LONDON ๐ฌ๐ง, by Dive Jedi on Mar 26, 2020 17:27:37 GMT 1, It appears collectors want a strong iconic image, hence the unsigned Rats, Girl With Balloon, Laugh Now fetching more than other signed prints. I find that really odd personality by hey not my money
Or let me put it this way :
You would sell an unsigned GWB for less then a SE ? 
It appears collectors want a strong iconic image, hence the unsigned Rats, Girl With Balloon, Laugh Now fetching more than other signed prints. I find that really odd personality by hey not my money You would pay more for a signed Sale Ends then for an unsigned Girl with Balloon ? Or let me put it this way : You would sell an unsigned GWB for less then a SE ? |
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข LONDON ๐ฌ๐ง, by Dexter Bulldog on Mar 26, 2020 17:29:22 GMT 1, Is this the correct arr calculation?
Royalty Resale price
4% up to โฌ50,000
3% between โฌ50,000.01 and โฌ200,000
1% between โฌ200,000.01 and โฌ350,000
0.5% between โฌ350,000.01 and โฌ500,000
0.25% in excess of โฌ500,000
Therefore the pink AP gwb adds about 2% to the number, correct?
Is this the correct arr calculation?
Royalty Resale price
4% up to โฌ50,000
3% between โฌ50,000.01 and โฌ200,000
1% between โฌ200,000.01 and โฌ350,000
0.5% between โฌ350,000.01 and โฌ500,000
0.25% in excess of โฌ500,000
Therefore the pink AP gwb adds about 2% to the number, correct?
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข LONDON ๐ฌ๐ง, by Hubble Bubble on Mar 26, 2020 17:57:03 GMT 1, You would pay more for a signed Sale Ends then for an unsigned Girl with Balloon ? Or let me put it this way : You would sell an unsigned Girl With Balloon for less then a SE ? Personally I think Sale Ends is a more powerful image but that's just me. Just think there is something a bit more special of having the print signed by the artist.
cheers
HB
You would pay more for a signed Sale Ends then for an unsigned Girl with Balloon ? Or let me put it this way : You would sell an unsigned Girl With Balloon for less then a SE ? Personally I think Sale Ends is a more powerful image but that's just me. Just think there is something a bit more special of having the print signed by the artist. Sale Ends is a more powerful image than Girl with Balloon? Each to their own, of course... but just checking this is what you meant. cheers HB |
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข LONDON ๐ฌ๐ง, by Hubble Bubble on Mar 26, 2020 18:02:14 GMT 1, Isn't there 25%+ 4% Arr to add on top? already with 25% 4% to be added.... if I'm right
Hammer price
plus 25% plus 5% plus 4%
So, on something hammering at 60k, add 34%. So the buyer pays ยฃ80,400. If the buyer can claim back VAT then it's plus 29% so buyer pays ยฃ77,400.
Of course, there's a sliding scale the higher the hammer price. I can't remember what it is for this house.
Isn't there 25%+ 4% Arr to add on top? already with 25% 4% to be added.... if I'm right Figures quoted include Buyers Premium but, crucially, exclude VAT on Buyers premium and artist resale rights. This equates usually to... Hammer price plus 25% plus 5% plus 4% So, on something hammering at 60k, add 34%. So the buyer pays ยฃ80,400. If the buyer can claim back VAT then it's plus 29% so buyer pays ยฃ77,400. Of course, there's a sliding scale the higher the hammer price. I can't remember what it is for this house. |
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข LONDON ๐ฌ๐ง, by Jonny Wednesday on Mar 26, 2020 18:14:55 GMT 1, Check out those sales !!! Plus 25% on the hammer prices!! Happy days indeed!
Check out those sales !!! Plus 25% on the hammer prices!! Happy days indeed!
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข LONDON ๐ฌ๐ง, by Jonny Wednesday on Mar 26, 2020 18:17:08 GMT 1, Does anyone know if the seller get the full hammer price? Or do they pay a percentage of the sale as a fee?
Does anyone know if the seller get the full hammer price? Or do they pay a percentage of the sale as a fee?
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข LONDON ๐ฌ๐ง, by Jonny Wednesday on Mar 26, 2020 18:20:09 GMT 1, rude copper ... Iโd be interested to know what the RC would have gone for in top condition. 
rude copper ... Iโd be interested to know what the RC would have gone for in top condition. same here.....I need to update my insurance policy based on these prices |
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข LONDON ๐ฌ๐ง, by Graham H on Mar 26, 2020 18:21:00 GMT 1, Depends how hard they haggled on selling fee.. Can be 10% down to zero if the auction house are desperate for a specific piece
Does anyone know if the seller get the full hammer price? Or do they pay a percentage of the sale as a fee?
Depends how hard they haggled on selling fee.. Can be 10% down to zero if the auction house are desperate for a specific piece Does anyone know if the seller get the full hammer price? Or do they pay a percentage of the sale as a fee? |
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Hubble Bubble
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข LONDON ๐ฌ๐ง, by Hubble Bubble on Mar 26, 2020 18:23:27 GMT 1, Does anyone know if the seller get the full hammer price? Or do they pay a percentage of the sale as a fee?
EDIT -- sorry Graham H - just echoed your post
Does anyone know if the seller get the full hammer price? Or do they pay a percentage of the sale as a fee? They pay a set fee of the hammer price, often 10% but often negotiated at a better deal to the seller depending on what piece you are selling. EDIT -- sorry Graham H - just echoed your post |
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข LONDON ๐ฌ๐ง, by Fast Eddie on Mar 26, 2020 18:47:09 GMT 1, So is this below correct?
seller gets from house y=.9*hammer
buyer pays to the house z=hammer*1.25
house spread = z-y = hammer*(1.25 - .9) = .35*hammer
So is this below correct?
seller gets from house y=.9*hammer
buyer pays to the house z=hammer*1.25
house spread = z-y = hammer*(1.25 - .9) = .35*hammer
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Hubble Bubble
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข LONDON ๐ฌ๐ง, by Hubble Bubble on Mar 26, 2020 18:54:25 GMT 1, So is this below correct? seller gets from house y=.9*hammer buyer pays to the house z=hammer*1.25 house spread = z-y = hammer*(1.25 - .9) = .35*hammer
Beats me. My degree was Drama.
So is this below correct? seller gets from house y=.9*hammer buyer pays to the house z=hammer*1.25 house spread = z-y = hammer*(1.25 - .9) = .35*hammer Beats me. My degree was Drama. |
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข LONDON ๐ฌ๐ง, by irl1 on Mar 26, 2020 18:55:34 GMT 1, So is this below correct? seller gets from house y=.9*hammer buyer pays to the house z=hammer*1.25 house spread = z-y = hammer*(1.25 - .9) = .35*hammer
So is this below correct? seller gets from house y=.9*hammer buyer pays to the house z=hammer*1.25 house spread = z-y = hammer*(1.25 - .9) = .35*hammer |
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