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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข LONDON ๐ฌ๐ง, by aki on Sept 18, 2020 22:18:40 GMT 1, How much is CGT, I have no idea? you get an annual exemption allowance of ยฃ12k and you are liable for tax at 20% on profit above that.
Do you still pay capital gains if you brought from source?
How much is CGT, I have no idea? you get an annual exemption allowance of ยฃ12k and you are liable for tax at 20% on profit above that. Do you still pay capital gains if you brought from source? |
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข LONDON ๐ฌ๐ง, by jstjst on Sept 18, 2020 22:20:18 GMT 1, you get an annual exemption allowance of ยฃ12k and you are liable for tax at 20% on profit above that. Do you still pay capital gains if you brought from source?
you get an annual exemption allowance of ยฃ12k and you are liable for tax at 20% on profit above that. Do you still pay capital gains if you brought from source? Yes |
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข LONDON ๐ฌ๐ง, by aki on Sept 18, 2020 22:26:24 GMT 1, Do you still pay capital gains if you brought from source? Yes
Fuck
Do you still pay capital gains if you brought from source? Yes Fuck |
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข LONDON ๐ฌ๐ง, by Lazarus II on Sept 18, 2020 22:26:58 GMT 1, you get an annual exemption allowance of ยฃ12k and you are liable for tax at 20% on profit above that. Do you still pay capital gains if you brought from source?
you pay it on whatever the gain is nomatter where or when you bought it.
you get an annual exemption allowance of ยฃ12k and you are liable for tax at 20% on profit above that. Do you still pay capital gains if you brought from source? you pay it on whatever the gain is nomatter where or when you bought it. |
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข LONDON ๐ฌ๐ง, by Gunny on Sept 18, 2020 22:29:05 GMT 1, use this for capital gains tax calculating in the UK.
taxscouts.com/calculator/capital-gains-tax/
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข LONDON ๐ฌ๐ง, by Deleted on Sept 18, 2020 22:40:20 GMT 1, Sorry to compare to stocks - but are we at "Delusion" or "Euphoria" Stages of a bubble Prices have never risen so fast (just like tech did this summer) and then there was a sell off /correction.  
I personally think, you can not compare stocks with art, but this is just personal. I understand where you come from and what you mean and yes, it looks like that on the first view.
For me with this kind of art it is different, Banksy is in our times right now the most famous artist alive, his works are full of powerful messages so nearly everybody will find one work from him, to identify with / to like it. If you compare, how many prints are out of him ( I do not know an exact number, but happy to know ) I think this is not so much, so I believe, that the prices will still go higher and higher, but of course more slowly.
Sorry to compare to stocks - but are we at "Delusion" or "Euphoria" Stages of a bubble Prices have never risen so fast (just like tech did this summer) and then there was a sell off /correction. I personally think, you can not compare stocks with art, but this is just personal. I understand where you come from and what you mean and yes, it looks like that on the first view. For me with this kind of art it is different, Banksy is in our times right now the most famous artist alive, his works are full of powerful messages so nearly everybody will find one work from him, to identify with / to like it. If you compare, how many prints are out of him ( I do not know an exact number, but happy to know ) I think this is not so much, so I believe, that the prices will still go higher and higher, but of course more slowly. |
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข LONDON ๐ฌ๐ง, by vandamme on Sept 18, 2020 22:41:32 GMT 1, About a year ago a forum member designed a cool tool for banksy pricing. Any thoughts if this is still live and current? If so please can someone point me the direction?
About a year ago a forum member designed a cool tool for banksy pricing. Any thoughts if this is still live and current? If so please can someone point me the direction?
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข LONDON ๐ฌ๐ง, by Pawel on Sept 18, 2020 22:42:26 GMT 1, About a year ago a forum member designed a cool tool for banksy pricing. Any thoughts if this is still live and current? If so please can someone point me the direction?
You mean this: banksy-value.com ?
About a year ago a forum member designed a cool tool for banksy pricing. Any thoughts if this is still live and current? If so please can someone point me the direction? You mean this: banksy-value.com ? |
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข LONDON ๐ฌ๐ง, by aki on Sept 18, 2020 22:42:59 GMT 1,
So using this if I sold half a million quids worth of prints Iโm paying nearly 100k in capital gains.
Car parks and briefcases full of cash anyone?๐
So using this if I sold half a million quids worth of prints Iโm paying nearly 100k in capital gains. Car parks and briefcases full of cash anyone?๐ |
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข LONDON ๐ฌ๐ง, by Pipes on Sept 18, 2020 22:44:33 GMT 1, About a year ago a forum member designed a cool tool for banksy pricing. Any thoughts if this is still live and current? If so please can someone point me the direction?
banksy-value.com
About a year ago a forum member designed a cool tool for banksy pricing. Any thoughts if this is still live and current? If so please can someone point me the direction? He updates it periodically - I image after Christies banksy-value.com |
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข LONDON ๐ฌ๐ง, by Gunny on Sept 18, 2020 22:46:21 GMT 1, So using this if I sold half a million quids worth of prints Iโm paying nearly 100k in capital gains. Car parks and briefcases full of cash anyone?๐
So using this if I sold half a million quids worth of prints Iโm paying nearly 100k in capital gains. Car parks and briefcases full of cash anyone?๐ You can only sell one item per year on cap gains, or maybe more as long as its not what you trade in. You also should have had the item for at least a year. You can also use your capital gains tax allowance for the previous year if you didn't use it........... |
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข LONDON ๐ฌ๐ง, by Lazarus II on Sept 18, 2020 22:46:47 GMT 1, So using this if I sold half a million quids worth of prints Iโm paying nearly 100k in capital gains. Car parks and briefcases full of cash anyone?๐
depends on what you paid for them. The tax is on the gain you make after you consume your annual allowance.
So using this if I sold half a million quids worth of prints Iโm paying nearly 100k in capital gains. Car parks and briefcases full of cash anyone?๐ depends on what you paid for them. The tax is on the gain you make after you consume your annual allowance. |
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข LONDON ๐ฌ๐ง, by jstjst on Sept 18, 2020 22:47:22 GMT 1, Nobody knows where we are at, but for LIITA to continue the increase from 36k to 230k in 4 months it would be 1.2M in January. I would say it's rather unlikely. Look at other collectible markets. They are all approaching unsustainable territory with prices. And in the next few months you've got the US election, Brexit deadline, and we still have covid and a vaccine to deal with. The unemployment rate is still high, places are going through shutdowns businesses are filing for bankruptcies and having layoffs. People are trying to move money out of traditional things like the stock market and housing and into other non traditional assets. If these are at the top of the bubble, you will see a massive crash and sell off in the near future. If the stock market crashes on top of non standard speculative assets, it will be a blood bath.
Nobody knows where we are at, but for LIITA to continue the increase from 36k to 230k in 4 months it would be 1.2M in January. I would say it's rather unlikely. Look at other collectible markets. They are all approaching unsustainable territory with prices. And in the next few months you've got the US election, Brexit deadline, and we still have covid and a vaccine to deal with. The unemployment rate is still high, places are going through shutdowns businesses are filing for bankruptcies and having layoffs. People are trying to move money out of traditional things like the stock market and housing and into other non traditional assets. If these are at the top of the bubble, you will see a massive crash and sell off in the near future. If the stock market crashes on top of non standard speculative assets, it will be a blood bath. Or Alternatively - liquidity from central governments continue to support markets and alternative investments continue to steadily rise. Traditional investments, inc. property and old style โblue chipโ stocks (oil, banks etc.) remain unattractive. TINA comes in to play - there is no alternative - money canโt be spent on luxury items like holidays, interests rates give little return on cash - those with cash continue to invest in things like art. Limited supply comes into play too, sustaining prices, supported by a small number of v wealthy investors with too much invested to allow a crash to play out. |
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข LONDON ๐ฌ๐ง, by vandamme on Sept 18, 2020 22:48:31 GMT 1, Thats great thanks Pipes
Thats great thanks Pipes
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข LONDON ๐ฌ๐ง, by jstjst on Sept 18, 2020 22:50:36 GMT 1, So using this if I sold half a million quids worth of prints Iโm paying nearly 100k in capital gains. Car parks and briefcases full of cash anyone?๐ You can only sell one item per year on cap gains, or maybe more as long as its not what you trade in. You also should have had the item for at least a year. You can also use your capital gains tax allowance for the previous year if you didn't use it...........
So using this if I sold half a million quids worth of prints Iโm paying nearly 100k in capital gains. Car parks and briefcases full of cash anyone?๐ You can only sell one item per year on cap gains, or maybe more as long as its not what you trade in. You also should have had the item for at least a year. You can also use your capital gains tax allowance for the previous year if you didn't use it........... You canโt in the UK unless you declare a capital loss on your tax return to,carry the loss forward ... |
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข LONDON ๐ฌ๐ง, by Lazarus II on Sept 18, 2020 22:51:23 GMT 1, So using this if I sold half a million quids worth of prints Iโm paying nearly 100k in capital gains. Car parks and briefcases full of cash anyone?๐ You can only sell one item per year on cap gains, or maybe more as long as its not what you trade in. You also should have had the item for at least a year. You can also use your capital gains tax allowance for the previous year if you didn't use it...........ย
this was discussed the other week after the last auction, Forum, i think. You cant use previous years allowance, its use it or lose it, you cant bank amy of your allowance. There used to be some sort of sliding scale based on how long you owned an item but that bit the dust a while ago. The thread from a few weeks back covered it in good detail, some accountant / tax advisor types contributed, one chap from canada explained it all in detail.
So using this if I sold half a million quids worth of prints Iโm paying nearly 100k in capital gains. Car parks and briefcases full of cash anyone?๐ You can only sell one item per year on cap gains, or maybe more as long as its not what you trade in. You also should have had the item for at least a year. You can also use your capital gains tax allowance for the previous year if you didn't use it...........ย this was discussed the other week after the last auction, Forum, i think. You cant use previous years allowance, its use it or lose it, you cant bank amy of your allowance. There used to be some sort of sliding scale based on how long you owned an item but that bit the dust a while ago. The thread from a few weeks back covered it in good detail, some accountant / tax advisor types contributed, one chap from canada explained it all in detail. |
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข LONDON ๐ฌ๐ง, by tonys on Sept 18, 2020 22:51:29 GMT 1, I think we might see โLove is in the binโ back in an auction room very soon. And to think that was a โshockingโ ยฃ1million just 2 years ago. ยฃ10m plus now
I think we might see โLove is in the binโ back in an auction room very soon. And to think that was a โshockingโ ยฃ1million just 2 years ago. ยฃ10m plus now
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข LONDON ๐ฌ๐ง, by Deleted on Sept 18, 2020 22:54:05 GMT 1, Look at other collectible markets. They are all approaching unsustainable territory with prices. And in the next few months you've got the US election, Brexit deadline, and we still have covid and a vaccine to deal with. The unemployment rate is still high, places are going through shutdowns businesses are filing for bankruptcies and having layoffs. People are trying to move money out of traditional things like the stock market and housing and into other non traditional assets. If these are at the top of the bubble, you will see a massive crash and sell off in the near future. If the stock market crashes on top of non standard speculative assets, it will be a blood bath. Or Alternatively - liquidity from central governments continue to support markets and alternative investments continue to steadily rise. Traditional investments, inc. property and old style โblue chipโ stocks (oil, banks etc.) remain unattractive. TINA comes in to play - there is no alternative - money canโt be spent on luxury items like holidays, interests rates give little return on cash - those with cash continue to invest in things like art. Limited supply comes into play too, sustaining prices, supported by a small number of v wealthy investors with too much invested to allow a crash to play out.ย
Fully agree with you! The wealthy people are always looking for different ways to spend their money and Art is for sure one way and to be honest who thinks, that they care about 10k or 20k or at the end of 50k, for them it is like you spend 50โฌ/$/ยฃ for a nice dinner.
Look at other collectible markets. They are all approaching unsustainable territory with prices. And in the next few months you've got the US election, Brexit deadline, and we still have covid and a vaccine to deal with. The unemployment rate is still high, places are going through shutdowns businesses are filing for bankruptcies and having layoffs. People are trying to move money out of traditional things like the stock market and housing and into other non traditional assets. If these are at the top of the bubble, you will see a massive crash and sell off in the near future. If the stock market crashes on top of non standard speculative assets, it will be a blood bath. Or Alternatively - liquidity from central governments continue to support markets and alternative investments continue to steadily rise. Traditional investments, inc. property and old style โblue chipโ stocks (oil, banks etc.) remain unattractive. TINA comes in to play - there is no alternative - money canโt be spent on luxury items like holidays, interests rates give little return on cash - those with cash continue to invest in things like art. Limited supply comes into play too, sustaining prices, supported by a small number of v wealthy investors with too much invested to allow a crash to play out.ย Fully agree with you! The wealthy people are always looking for different ways to spend their money and Art is for sure one way and to be honest who thinks, that they care about 10k or 20k or at the end of 50k, for them it is like you spend 50โฌ/$/ยฃ for a nice dinner. |
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข LONDON ๐ฌ๐ง, by Gunny on Sept 18, 2020 22:55:32 GMT 1, You can only sell one item per year on cap gains, or maybe more as long as its not what you trade in. You also should have had the item for at least a year. You can also use your capital gains tax allowance for the previous year if you didn't use it........... this was discussed the other week after the last auction, Forum, i think. You cant use previous years allowance, its use it or lose it, you cant bank amy of your allowance. There used to be some sort of sliding scale based on how long you owned an item but that bit the dust a while ago. The thread from a few weeks back covered it in good detail, some accountant / tax advisor types contributed, one chap from canada explained it all in detail.
You can only sell one item per year on cap gains, or maybe more as long as its not what you trade in. You also should have had the item for at least a year. You can also use your capital gains tax allowance for the previous year if you didn't use it........... this was discussed the other week after the last auction, Forum, i think. You cant use previous years allowance, its use it or lose it, you cant bank amy of your allowance. There used to be some sort of sliding scale based on how long you owned an item but that bit the dust a while ago. The thread from a few weeks back covered it in good detail, some accountant / tax advisor types contributed, one chap from canada explained it all in detail. Canada is not the UK, however, i don't know exactly, but this is what i was told. Happy weekend! |
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข LONDON ๐ฌ๐ง, by Lazarus II on Sept 18, 2020 23:11:31 GMT 1, this was discussed the other week after the last auction, Forum, i think. You cant use previous years allowance, its use it or lose it, you cant bank amy of your allowance. There used to be some sort of sliding scale based on how long you owned an item but that bit the dust a while ago. The thread from a few weeks back covered it in good detail, some accountant / tax advisor types contributed, one chap from canada explained it all in detail. Canada is not the UK, however,ย i don't know exactly, but this is what i was told. Happy weekend!
the chap from Canada acknowledged that he was not in UK but he had a good grasp of UK tax laws as did the others from the UK who contributed to that thread and it covered the questions raised here tonight. Anyhow, death and taxes and that includes CGT๐
this was discussed the other week after the last auction, Forum, i think. You cant use previous years allowance, its use it or lose it, you cant bank amy of your allowance. There used to be some sort of sliding scale based on how long you owned an item but that bit the dust a while ago. The thread from a few weeks back covered it in good detail, some accountant / tax advisor types contributed, one chap from canada explained it all in detail. Canada is not the UK, however,ย i don't know exactly, but this is what i was told. Happy weekend! the chap from Canada acknowledged that he was not in UK but he had a good grasp of UK tax laws as did the others from the UK who contributed to that thread and it covered the questions raised here tonight. Anyhow, death and taxes and that includes CGT๐ |
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข LONDON ๐ฌ๐ง, by aki on Sept 18, 2020 23:11:42 GMT 1, So using this if I sold half a million quids worth of prints Iโm paying nearly 100k in capital gains. Car parks and briefcases full of cash anyone?๐ depends on what you paid for them. The tax is on the gain you make after you consume your annual allowance.
Cost me about a grand, I should make sure I have a year off before selling for the extra 10k
So using this if I sold half a million quids worth of prints Iโm paying nearly 100k in capital gains. Car parks and briefcases full of cash anyone?๐ depends on what you paid for them. The tax is on the gain you make after you consume your annual allowance. Cost me about a grand, I should make sure I have a year off before selling for the extra 10k |
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข LONDON ๐ฌ๐ง, by Rubberneck on Sept 18, 2020 23:15:00 GMT 1, If youโre married your wife also has a ยฃ12300 allowance as does any child over 18 who lives with you, could actually be from 14 for kids but double check with your accountant. You can claim any cost tied to the print, purchase price, restoration, framing, security, storage, humidity control.. there is a thread on cgt on here which goes through.. essentially the equivalent paye earnings would be taxed at 40% but ...
If youโre married your wife also has a ยฃ12300 allowance as does any child over 18 who lives with you, could actually be from 14 for kids but double check with your accountant. You can claim any cost tied to the print, purchase price, restoration, framing, security, storage, humidity control.. there is a thread on cgt on here which goes through.. essentially the equivalent paye earnings would be taxed at 40% but ... |
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข LONDON ๐ฌ๐ง, by Lazarus II on Sept 18, 2020 23:15:46 GMT 1, depends on what you paid for them. The tax is on the gain you make after you consume your annual allowance. Cost me about a grand, I should make sure I have a year off before selling for the extra 10k
if you paid ยฃ1k for it, sold it for say ยฃ53k then youd pay tax on ยฃ40k. Ie the gain was ยฃ52k, your annual allowamce is ยฃ12k so you pay tax on ยฃ40k.
If you are married or have civil partner and you both own the print then you can use both your ยฃ12k allowances.
Ps not sure about civil partner tax allowance.
depends on what you paid for them. The tax is on the gain you make after you consume your annual allowance. Cost me about a grand, I should make sure I have a year off before selling for the extra 10k if you paid ยฃ1k for it, sold it for say ยฃ53k then youd pay tax on ยฃ40k. Ie the gain was ยฃ52k, your annual allowamce is ยฃ12k so you pay tax on ยฃ40k. If you are married or have civil partner and you both own the print then you can use both your ยฃ12k allowances. Ps not sure about civil partner tax allowance. |
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข LONDON ๐ฌ๐ง, by Pipes on Sept 18, 2020 23:20:50 GMT 1, First time I have seen Hangup have 0 prints for sale.
They used to have 30 at any time a few years ago.
hanguppictures.com/artists/banksy
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข LONDON ๐ฌ๐ง, by Lazarus II on Sept 18, 2020 23:23:02 GMT 1, this was discussed the other week after the last auction, Forum, i think. You cant use previous years allowance, its use it or lose it, you cant bank amy of your allowance. There used to be some sort of sliding scale based on how long you owned an item but that bit the dust a while ago. The thread from a few weeks back covered it in good detail, some accountant / tax advisor types contributed, one chap from canada explained it all in detail. Canada is not the UK, however,ย i don't know exactly, but this is what i was told. Happy weekend!
This thread here covers lots of it.
urbanartassociation.com/thread/165590/banksy-owners-intend-avoid-capital?page=2
this was discussed the other week after the last auction, Forum, i think. You cant use previous years allowance, its use it or lose it, you cant bank amy of your allowance. There used to be some sort of sliding scale based on how long you owned an item but that bit the dust a while ago. The thread from a few weeks back covered it in good detail, some accountant / tax advisor types contributed, one chap from canada explained it all in detail. Canada is not the UK, however,ย i don't know exactly, but this is what i was told. Happy weekend! This thread here covers lots of it. urbanartassociation.com/thread/165590/banksy-owners-intend-avoid-capital?page=2 |
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข LONDON ๐ฌ๐ง, by shaunyboy on Sept 18, 2020 23:25:37 GMT 1, Hiscox working late tonight.
Hiscox working late tonight.
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข LONDON ๐ฌ๐ง, by Lazarus II on Sept 18, 2020 23:28:21 GMT 1, Hiscox working late tonight.
hiscox making as much as Sothebys after today๐
Hiscox working late tonight. hiscox making as much as Sothebys after today๐ |
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข LONDON ๐ฌ๐ง, by topboy on Sept 18, 2020 23:32:08 GMT 1, Nola AP (Green Rain) ยฃ226,800 / $294
So after that result, do you think a white rain will reach ยฃ150,000?
Nola AP (Green Rain) ยฃ226,800 / $294
So after that result, do you think a white rain will reach ยฃ150,000?
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข LONDON ๐ฌ๐ง, by Pipes on Sept 18, 2020 23:44:00 GMT 1, Nola AP (Green Rain) ยฃ226,800 / $294 So after that result, do you think a white rain will reach ยฃ150,000?
That wasnโt an AP itโs edition of 31.
Orange edition 32
APโs edition of 66
If you look closely - the APโs are signed in the grey part of the image.
The editions are signed in the white border.
I need to get out more.
Nola AP (Green Rain) ยฃ226,800 / $294 So after that result, do you think a white rain will reach ยฃ150,000? That wasnโt an AP itโs edition of 31. Orange edition 32 APโs edition of 66 If you look closely - the APโs are signed in the grey part of the image. The editions are signed in the white border. I need to get out more. |
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข LONDON ๐ฌ๐ง, by topboy on Sept 18, 2020 23:59:26 GMT 1, Nola AP (Green Rain) ยฃ226,800 / $294 So after that result, do you think a white rain will reach ยฃ150,000? That wasnโt an AP itโs edition of 31. Orange edition 32 APโs edition of 66 If you look closely - the APโs are signed in the grey part of the image. The editions are signed in the white border. I need to get out more.
OK thanks. I just copied and pasted the part of the previous post.
So maybe closer to ยฃ120,000 then? Yeah I guess we will have to wait and see when one comes up for sale ( at a big(ish) auction house).
Nola AP (Green Rain) ยฃ226,800 / $294 So after that result, do you think a white rain will reach ยฃ150,000? That wasnโt an AP itโs edition of 31. Orange edition 32 APโs edition of 66 If you look closely - the APโs are signed in the grey part of the image. The editions are signed in the white border. I need to get out more. OK thanks. I just copied and pasted the part of the previous post. So maybe closer to ยฃ120,000 then? Yeah I guess we will have to wait and see when one comes up for sale ( at a big(ish) auction house). |
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