[Rubberneck]

Claude-Joseph Vernet - A Landscape at Sunset 1773

www.nationalgallery.org.uk/paintings/claude-joseph-vernet-a-landscape-at-sunset



Banksy - UFO attack -2006 (don’t know the name of it , just made that up)

[Rubberneck]

William Clarke Wontner - The Fair Persian, 1916

[denzil]

Nov 18, 2019 20:45:32 GMT 1 moron said:

Nov 18, 2019 19:39:16 GMT 1 lee3 said:

 Banksy is a bull-shitter. In other words Banksy promoted himself blatantly by hijacking a Basquiat painted image and added massive amounts of virtue signalling text to make out he is switched on.

 It is so sad that Banksy resorts to judging people on appearance as I'm sure that the Barbican would be wary of any color drug enabled person who looks poor and scruffy.

  Basquiat came from a wealthy and connected family. Who had the money to send him to a private art school. Saint Annes school Brooklyn. ( Annual tuition as of 2019 is between $43,000 and $49,000 depending on grade level ) 

Basquiat made himself homeless but still had his families connections. 

""In 1979, Basquiat appeared on the live public-access television show TV Party hosted by Glenn O'Brien, and the two started a friendship. Basquiat made regular appearances on the show over the next few years. That same year, Basquiat formed the noise rock band Test Pattern – which was later renamed Gray – which played at Arleen Schloss's open space, "Wednesdays at A's".[19] In October 1979, at the same club, Basquiat showed his SAMO montages using color Xerox copies of his works.



Other members of Gray included Shannon Dawson, Michael Holman, Nick Taylor, Wayne Clifford and Vincent Gallo, and the band performed at nightclubs such as Max's Kansas City, CBGB, Hurrah and the Mudd Club. In 1980, Basquiat starred in O'Brien's independent film Downtown 81, originally titled New York Beat. That same year, Basquiat met Andy Warhol at a restaurant.""

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean-Michel_Basquiat

   Basquiat was working hard, was educated, multi lingual, was talented and was connected. There is no way a black or white drug enabled street person would get anywhere near Andy Warhols table and say hello without being connected to the right people.

  Banksy's virtue signalling to promote himself is getting really boring.

 Just like to add ,The Barbican Estate does not have any Surveillance System at all ,or any Security Force ,And it is not a Private Estate So that description is total bollocks

[drip]

Nov 19, 2019 14:28:51 GMT 1 cosmic said:

Nice change of the eyes there. *chef's kiss*

[King Robbo Lives]

Robert "3D" Del Naja's "United Kingdoms"



www.art collectorz/artworks/artwork-detail?artwork_id=6413&edition_id=8120

[Rubberneck]

Nov 19, 2019 16:53:00 GMT 1 King Robbo Lives said:

Robert "3D" Del Naja's "United Kingdoms"



www.art collectorz/artworks/artwork-detail?artwork_id=6413&edition_id=8120

I don’t know about the 3D print being the inspiration.. always took it to be John Bull

www.historic-uk.com/CultureUK/John-Bull/

[King Robbo Lives]

Nov 19, 2019 17:09:39 GMT 1 Rubberneck said:

Nov 19, 2019 16:53:00 GMT 1 King Robbo Lives said:

Robert "3D" Del Naja's "United Kingdoms"



www.art collectorz/artworks/artwork-detail?artwork_id=6413&edition_id=8120

I don’t know about the 3D print being the inspiration.. always took it to be John Bull

www.historic-uk.com/CultureUK/John-Bull/

Perhaps, but Banksy's admitted inspiration from 3D on Exit Through... suggests otherwise. 

[Rubberneck]

[King Robbo Lives]

Nov 19, 2019 17:16:43 GMT 1 Rubberneck said:

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[Rubberneck]

Nov 19, 2019 17:47:56 GMT 1 warchet said:

Nov 19, 2019 17:30:44 GMT 1 King Robbo Lives said:

0:42 

yeah I'm sure that pic inspired the stab vest     try the coincidence thread

image upload

[Terry Fuckwitt]

In 2008 Newark Council, Nottinghamshire,  sent out letters warning that children face prosecution and fines of up to £100 if they annoy neighbours with ball games.

Boys have a kickabout in a Salford Street in 1938. 


First Banksy canvas of 'No ball games' which evolved to the print version released in 2009

[Newar]

Thanks for this great work

[Guy Denning]

I'm pretty sure the original photo for the flower bomber came from an anarchist press newspaper in the mid 80s. I've rattled through the collection I've still managed to hang on to but I can't find it now. Sorry! Deffo not one of the obvious ones like Class War or Black Flag. I initially thought it was from ATTACK ATTACK ATTACK (the voice of respectable moderation) but that cover had a different rioter on the front. I'll keep looking though.

[Not 4 The Thril]

[NN]

Nov 19, 2019 0:31:38 GMT 1 ca said:

Nov 18, 2019 21:03:27 GMT 1 Romulus said:

Yes, I think it was from the time of Better Out Than In and it was on his website. I don't think anyone ever found where it was though

Interesting, it just looks very cheesy and unresearched relative to most other pieces

Even more interesting is that in 2017 Tyler the Creator titled his album "Flower Boy"

[GMA]

Nov 18, 2019 18:46:43 GMT 1 moron said:

Okse’s illustration from June 2016



Banksy’s mural in Dover from May 2017

theartofokse.com/blogs/chatter-oks/banksy-ill-just-leave-this-here

Didn't know that. I guess people can have the same idea, loved that concept though.

[met]

Mao Zedong reviewing the Red Guards in 1966. Source image then flipped horizontally.







The Kyoto Garden*, Holland Park, West London. It opened in 1991 and "was a gift from the city of Kyoto to commemorate the long friendship between Japan and Great Britain."

Not quite the "Chinese garden" referred to in Banksy's Existencilism (photo courtesy of cosmic).

Chinese, Japanese. Close enough?

[met]

Oct 30, 2019 20:58:19 GMT 1 cosmic said:

[...]

Not Sure on this one but its the closest i can find
(May-68.-6th-arrond-Boulevard-Saint-Germain.-Students-hurl-projectiles-against-the-police.-Bruno-Barbey)


[...]

There is one thing we can say with a degree of certainty about the Flower Thrower / Love is in the Air imagery featuring the single thrower (various designs used for street work, record company illustrations, fine art canvases and prints):

The direct inspiration would be another painting by Banksy himself, created circa 2000–2001 and shown at Peace is Tough — the 2001 joint exhibition with Jamie Reid held at The Arches* in Glasgow.

Not sure about the title of the piece, though it might be called Riot.









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Regarding the inspiration for that initial painting, it could be any number of riot scenes in a large city.

Looking however at the architecture, the style of street furniture (such as the traffic lights, signage, and 'Keep Left' traffic bollard*), and the clothing worn by the rioters (including a baseball cap and an Adidas tracksuit), my guess is that the source photo(s) was/were shot in the UK and probably around the 1990s — as opposed to Paris in May 1968.

Although not an exact fit (even when taking into account changes to the cityscape over the last two decades), the background buildings do remind me of London's Square Mile — near the Royal Exchange, the Bank of England and Mansion House.

Here's a photo showing the Bank of England along with the Royal Exchange:

[met]

The original Banksy painting from circa 2000–2001 could easily be based on a composite of images.

See Duncan Phillips' photo below, taken during the poll tax riot in London on 31 March 1990.

Note the similarity between the woman wielding a steel pipe, and one of the background flower-throwers in Banksy's piece.








Other shots, the first with the same woman, and both showing that same part of Trafalgar Square:








Relevant footage of the day, sourced from the BBC archive:

[inefficiency of]

the background of this one from the same Poll Tax riots seems to fit the style of skyline, traffic lights etc
from the original Banksy painting.

[Lroy]

Nov 11, 2019 16:32:54 GMT 1 Romulus said:

Is the 'You Looked Better on Myspace' really by Banksy?

Nope JPS
Edit : not quite sure no. :-)

[Deleted]

Dec 1, 2019 9:02:10 GMT 1 Lroy said:

Nov 11, 2019 16:32:54 GMT 1 Romulus said:

Is the 'You Looked Better on Myspace' really by Banksy?

Nope JPS

I think it was Banksy. In place of the maid that was buffed on Beverly around 2006 ish.

[met]

Dec 1, 2019 9:00:19 GMT 1 inefficiency of said:

the background of this one from the same Poll Tax riots seems to fit the style of skyline, traffic lights etc
from the original Banksy painting.

Excellent work, inefficiency of. I believe you cracked it — or at least part of it.

The tower block in the background is based on New Zealand House, visible from Trafalgar Square. The building with the columns to the left of the canvas is based on Canada House.

Whatever source photo Banksy had for that part of his painting was flipped horizontally, as I've done with the shots below.


Original image:


Mirrored image:

[Alan Craig]

Excellent work folks

[cosmic]

Dec 1, 2019 9:36:21 GMT 1 @mammal100 said:

Dec 1, 2019 9:02:10 GMT 1 Lroy said:

Nope JPS

I think it was Banksy. In place of the maid that was buffed on Beverly around 2006 ish.

'You looked better on MySpace'

is 100% by Banksy

seen here on his website

[Lroy]

Dec 1, 2019 9:36:21 GMT 1 @mammal100 said:

Dec 1, 2019 9:02:10 GMT 1 Lroy said:

Nope JPS

I think it was Banksy. In place of the maid that was buffed on Beverly around 2006 ish.

I think that you are right sir, as you know a lot in art, street-art etc.. ( almost if it’s a painting from 2006 on Berverly.
Anyway it was before the Tauton rat affair, and it really as JPS style, very colorful !
This is not a great Banksy a bit mocking simple and ordinary people and speaking about social media as MySpace !
Well, you know Banksy ... I have a mate in Liverpool, even Sincura has his artwork, and selling it, as a Banksy ! ...
( just a remark, very interesting thread, are all images have been photoshopped so ? Just asking )
instagram.com/jps_artist?igshid=18e231qhvorjq

[met]

Dec 1, 2019 13:58:55 GMT 1 cosmic said:

'Roit Painting' 1997
seen for the first time at Severnshed 28th FEB 2000

show info:
"After moving to London in early 2000, Banksy went back to Bristol in February the same year, where he opened his first regular exhibition in his own name at the restaurant Severnshed , behind the docks. It was a mixture of stencil and acrylic.

And from from April 2011 Los Angeles , MOCA Art in the streets

Thank you for the date correction. I hadn't realised the original version of this painting was so old, or that the substrate was wood.

The extent to which it was reworked since Severnshed in 2000 is interesting as well, including:

(i) reducing the contrast by greying the overall composition;
(ii) making the sky completely different;
(iii) painting out the top-left building silhouettes; and
(iv) removing the signature and date from the bottom-right border.


In my opinion, these modifications very much strengthened the work.

And, just like Devolved Parliament, it could be that the aesthetic changes to the piece were also accompanied by a name change — from the earlier title mentioned by god’s ultimate noise, to the simpler Riot painting.

Regarding the creation date, it would be more accurate if this were amended to "1997–[year of last alteration]".


Severnshed version:



Later version:

[Rubberneck]

Dec 1, 2019 9:39:46 GMT 1 met said:

Dec 1, 2019 9:00:19 GMT 1 inefficiency of said:

the background of this one from the same Poll Tax riots seems to fit the style of skyline, traffic lights etc
from the original Banksy painting.

Excellent work, inefficiency of. I believe you cracked it — or at least part of it.

The tower block in the background is based on New Zealand House, visible from Trafalgar Square. The building with the columns to the left of the canvas is based on Canada House.

Whatever source photo Banksy had for that part of his painting was flipped horizontally, as I've done with the shots below.


Original image:


Mirrored image:

Wondering if the flipping is due to the overhead projector he was using?

EDIT: Great detective work!

[Lroy]

Dec 1, 2019 18:04:34 GMT 1 cosmic said:

Another painting similar in style was shown at Banksy's first ever non–street art exhibition that took place in a flat in Easton, Bristol in 1998
(anyone have any better photos of this painting or of the show please ?)
'Riot on the Move'

Magical and wonderful

[Guy Denning]

Dec 1, 2019 18:27:12 GMT 1 Lroy said:

Dec 1, 2019 18:04:34 GMT 1 cosmic said:

Another painting similar in style was shown at Banksy's first ever non–street art exhibition that took place in a flat in Easton, Bristol in 1998
(anyone have any better photos of this painting or of the show please ?)
'Riot on the Move'

Magical and wonderful

And that scene puts me in mind of Stokes Croft Road, Brissle.