LJCal
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December 2019
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Pest Control COA โข Banksy Print Authentication, by LJCal on Mar 12, 2024 22:52:54 GMT 1, Has anyone actually ever seen a decent fake in the flesh? I presume it's not particularly easy to make a very good forgery? Or maybe with modern printers and scanners it's very easy? 700 applications a month for COA's seems very high. I'd guess that figure probably includes requests to change ownership and maybe other enquiries? I thought I read once that there is only around 30,000 to 40,000 Banksy prints in circulation and you'd think the majority would already have COA? Yeah I have, there are some near perfect fakes (not including back door or test prints) but they're not the norm. 95% of fakes are easy to spot if you have know his prints or have reference pictures and cataloging.
Has anyone actually ever seen a decent fake in the flesh? I presume it's not particularly easy to make a very good forgery? Or maybe with modern printers and scanners it's very easy? 700 applications a month for COA's seems very high. I'd guess that figure probably includes requests to change ownership and maybe other enquiries? I thought I read once that there is only around 30,000 to 40,000 Banksy prints in circulation and you'd think the majority would already have COA? Yeah I have, there are some near perfect fakes (not including back door or test prints) but they're not the norm. 95% of fakes are easy to spot if you have know his prints or have reference pictures and cataloging.
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LJCal
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December 2019
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Pest Control COA โข Banksy Print Authentication, by LJCal on Mar 12, 2024 22:56:43 GMT 1, Given the pricing of his prints and originals, PC should have had their pricing higher for the service. Say ยฃ250 for a print and ยฃ1500 for an original. At least then that would put off and remove a lot of people submitting for COA after buying fake works of lower auction houses and eBay etc.. The money would cover a full time wage for the COA guy and for the guy who drinks the tea and adds the stains to the COAs also. ๐ 100%. Monet authentication board charge $5000 flat, from little hand sketches up to big canvases. Obviously the authentication process is more complex typically and obviously a canvas is worth serious money but still a small sketch is probably worth less than some Banksy prints. I think most people on here would be more than willing to pay ยฃ250-300 if it meant getting the COA back in 3 months as opposed to 3 years.
Given the pricing of his prints and originals, PC should have had their pricing higher for the service. Say ยฃ250 for a print and ยฃ1500 for an original. At least then that would put off and remove a lot of people submitting for COA after buying fake works of lower auction houses and eBay etc.. The money would cover a full time wage for the COA guy and for the guy who drinks the tea and adds the stains to the COAs also. ๐ 100%. Monet authentication board charge $5000 flat, from little hand sketches up to big canvases. Obviously the authentication process is more complex typically and obviously a canvas is worth serious money but still a small sketch is probably worth less than some Banksy prints. I think most people on here would be more than willing to pay ยฃ250-300 if it meant getting the COA back in 3 months as opposed to 3 years.
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lukas01
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December 2022
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Pest Control COA โข Banksy Print Authentication, by lukas01 on Mar 13, 2024 0:27:30 GMT 1, I finally understood who Banksy is. I didn't know I'd known Banksy for years. We have exchanged dozens and dozens of emails throughout this time. I'm ready to tell the whole world if they give me an original canvas of the Balloon Girl, one of the Flower Thrower, one of the Child Who Trashes Superheroes, one of the Glitter Monkey and all the silkscreens on paper known to date. Obviously all the works must have the Disinfestation certificate, where it must be written: Original Single Work - Certificate to Mr. If there is any journalist interested I accept DM for confirmation. Thank you
I finally understood who Banksy is. I didn't know I'd known Banksy for years. We have exchanged dozens and dozens of emails throughout this time. I'm ready to tell the whole world if they give me an original canvas of the Balloon Girl, one of the Flower Thrower, one of the Child Who Trashes Superheroes, one of the Glitter Monkey and all the silkscreens on paper known to date. Obviously all the works must have the Disinfestation certificate, where it must be written: Original Single Work - Certificate to Mr. If there is any journalist interested I accept DM for confirmation. Thank you
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loui
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January 2024
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Pest Control COA โข Banksy Print Authentication, by loui on Mar 13, 2024 7:23:40 GMT 1, I finally understood who Banksy is. I didn't know I'd known Banksy for years. We have exchanged dozens and dozens of emails throughout this time. I'm ready to tell the whole world if they give me an original canvas of the Balloon Girl, one of the Flower Thrower, one of the Child Who Trashes Superheroes, one of the Glitter Monkey and all the silkscreens on paper known to date. Obviously all the works must have the Disinfestation certificate, where it must be written: Original Single Work - Certificate to Mr. If there is any journalist interested I accept DM for confirmation. Thank you Looking forward to read your story Lukas! :-) is it okay to have the tea stain on the disinfestation certificate? I drink my tea without any milk by the way
I finally understood who Banksy is. I didn't know I'd known Banksy for years. We have exchanged dozens and dozens of emails throughout this time. I'm ready to tell the whole world if they give me an original canvas of the Balloon Girl, one of the Flower Thrower, one of the Child Who Trashes Superheroes, one of the Glitter Monkey and all the silkscreens on paper known to date. Obviously all the works must have the Disinfestation certificate, where it must be written: Original Single Work - Certificate to Mr. If there is any journalist interested I accept DM for confirmation. Thank you Looking forward to read your story Lukas! :-) is it okay to have the tea stain on the disinfestation certificate? I drink my tea without any milk by the way
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lukas01
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December 2022
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Pest Control COA โข Banksy Print Authentication, by lukas01 on Mar 13, 2024 8:48:51 GMT 1, I finally understood who Banksy is. I didn't know I'd known Banksy for years. We have exchanged dozens and dozens of emails throughout this time. I'm ready to tell the whole world if they give me an original canvas of the Balloon Girl, one of the Flower Thrower, one of the Child Who Trashes Superheroes, one of the Glitter Monkey and all the silkscreens on paper known to date. Obviously all the works must have the Disinfestation certificate, where it must be written: Original Single Work - Certificate to Mr. If there is any journalist interested I accept DM for confirmation. Thank you Looking forward to read your story Lukas! :-) is it okay to have the tea stain on the disinfestation certificate? I drink my tea without any milk by the way I prefer the certificate to be dirty, with freshly squeezed strawberry and kiwi juice. :-))))))
Hi Loui, have a good day. ;-)
I finally understood who Banksy is. I didn't know I'd known Banksy for years. We have exchanged dozens and dozens of emails throughout this time. I'm ready to tell the whole world if they give me an original canvas of the Balloon Girl, one of the Flower Thrower, one of the Child Who Trashes Superheroes, one of the Glitter Monkey and all the silkscreens on paper known to date. Obviously all the works must have the Disinfestation certificate, where it must be written: Original Single Work - Certificate to Mr. If there is any journalist interested I accept DM for confirmation. Thank you Looking forward to read your story Lukas! :-) is it okay to have the tea stain on the disinfestation certificate? I drink my tea without any milk by the way I prefer the certificate to be dirty, with freshly squeezed strawberry and kiwi juice. :-)))))) Hi Loui, have a good day. ;-)
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loui
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January 2024
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Pest Control COA โข Banksy Print Authentication, by loui on Mar 13, 2024 9:03:01 GMT 1, Looking forward to read your story Lukas! :-) is it okay to have the tea stain on the disinfestation certificate? I drink my tea without any milk by the way I prefer the certificate to be dirty, with freshly squeezed strawberry and kiwi juice. :-)))))) Hi Loui, have a good day. ;-) You too Lukas! Weโll eat some falafel one day ๐
Looking forward to read your story Lukas! :-) is it okay to have the tea stain on the disinfestation certificate? I drink my tea without any milk by the way I prefer the certificate to be dirty, with freshly squeezed strawberry and kiwi juice. :-)))))) Hi Loui, have a good day. ;-) You too Lukas! Weโll eat some falafel one day ๐
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lukas01
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December 2022
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Pest Control COA โข Banksy Print Authentication, by lukas01 on Mar 13, 2024 17:26:46 GMT 1, I prefer the certificate to be dirty, with freshly squeezed strawberry and kiwi juice. :-)))))) Hi Loui, have a good day. ;-) You too Lukas! Weโll eat some falafel one day ๐ Never tasted one. But I think they are very tasty. Ancient recipes rarely have a taste you don't like. These products should be of Arab or oriental origin. Definitely excellent.
The problem is when will we eat them together? I don't even have a passport.
Thanks anyway for your availability. ๐
I prefer the certificate to be dirty, with freshly squeezed strawberry and kiwi juice. :-)))))) Hi Loui, have a good day. ;-) You too Lukas! Weโll eat some falafel one day ๐ Never tasted one. But I think they are very tasty. Ancient recipes rarely have a taste you don't like. These products should be of Arab or oriental origin. Definitely excellent. The problem is when will we eat them together? I don't even have a passport. Thanks anyway for your availability. ๐
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Reader
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PC Baby
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mono
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March 2020
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Pest Control COA โข Banksy Print Authentication, by mono on May 20, 2024 19:23:40 GMT 1, I sent Pest Control 2 Change of Ownership requests back in Aug 2020. They replied (for both pieces) in Jan 2021 to request additional info (images of edition number, signature and photo ID next to edition number) and confirmation from me and the seller of the ownership change. And we sent everything back to them within the week. A few days later I got a reply from Pest Control for one of the 2 pieces to say "we will be in touch regarding this request once all of our due diligence checks are complete", but no reply about the other piece. It's now more than 3 years since the original Change of Ownership for both pieces, and I've followed them up several times, as has the sellers, and I've tried from different email accounts (gmail etc) but still no reply. Is this normal? Does anyone have any advice? Should I be concerned if/when I want to sell one of these? Thanks for any advice you can share! Still no response from Pest Control. I've sent a couple more polite emails to them since my post above.
Does anyone have any suggestions? Presumably they have a legal obligation here since I paid them 2x ยฃ24 and they've not delivered the service I've paid for.
Really shitty. It properly puts me off buying any more Banksy work. Unless they come good on this. Nearly 4 years now. I'm close to giving up
PS: I've already tried sending from another address (gmail) just incase for some reason my messages have been going to spam. But still no response.
I sent Pest Control 2 Change of Ownership requests back in Aug 2020. They replied (for both pieces) in Jan 2021 to request additional info (images of edition number, signature and photo ID next to edition number) and confirmation from me and the seller of the ownership change. And we sent everything back to them within the week. A few days later I got a reply from Pest Control for one of the 2 pieces to say "we will be in touch regarding this request once all of our due diligence checks are complete", but no reply about the other piece. It's now more than 3 years since the original Change of Ownership for both pieces, and I've followed them up several times, as has the sellers, and I've tried from different email accounts (gmail etc) but still no reply. Is this normal? Does anyone have any advice? Should I be concerned if/when I want to sell one of these? Thanks for any advice you can share! Still no response from Pest Control. I've sent a couple more polite emails to them since my post above. Does anyone have any suggestions? Presumably they have a legal obligation here since I paid them 2x ยฃ24 and they've not delivered the service I've paid for. Really shitty. It properly puts me off buying any more Banksy work. Unless they come good on this. Nearly 4 years now. I'm close to giving up PS: I've already tried sending from another address (gmail) just incase for some reason my messages have been going to spam. But still no response.
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Wanchope
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February 2020
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Pest Control COA โข Banksy Print Authentication, by Wanchope on May 20, 2024 19:36:09 GMT 1, Thatโs utter shite. BANKSY do something FFS! Iโve had enough of these stories and 4 years is just plain ridiculous. I donโt think there is anything else you can do unless someone like hang up gallery or someone else who has links can help out?
Thatโs utter shite. BANKSY do something FFS! Iโve had enough of these stories and 4 years is just plain ridiculous. I donโt think there is anything else you can do unless someone like hang up gallery or someone else who has links can help out?
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mono
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March 2020
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Pest Control COA โข Banksy Print Authentication, by mono on May 20, 2024 19:55:00 GMT 1, Thanks for the suggestion, I'll give that a try!
Thanks for the suggestion, I'll give that a try!
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loui
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January 2024
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Pest Control COA โข Banksy Print Authentication, by loui on May 20, 2024 20:38:45 GMT 1, I donโt. But in 2018 Nicky Katz (Land Logical) and John Brandler were the ones who moved the container with the Banksy off the Dungeness Beach. So I guess B either likes him a lot and PC offered him a deal on this legal row or he doesnโt like Nicky at all and lets him stew in his own juices while drinking a nice Montepulciano dโAbruzzo. I say cheers ๐ท
I donโt. But in 2018 Nicky Katz (Land Logical) and John Brandler were the ones who moved the container with the Banksy off the Dungeness Beach. So I guess B either likes him a lot and PC offered him a deal on this legal row or he doesnโt like Nicky at all and lets him stew in his own juices while drinking a nice Montepulciano dโAbruzzo. I say cheers ๐ท
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