Banksy's on eBay • Real or Fake?

[alsbabar]

i think if enough people report this to ebay, the listings will get pulled - thats the only way to stop sellers like thi

[Zippy]

Reported.

Also, in the small print at the bottom.....

This is a privat auction. No warranty, no refund, no guarantee.

[ramo]

140334484412

Definitely a fake. Just Compared the "Banksy flying rat (Street sprayed 2004 in Berlin on traffic sign near the Alexander place and the Sony Center)" with the Wall & Piece Book page 106. Horrible!

I'll report to ebay as well. Hope they care and do not only look to the provision they'll make...

PS: He's sellig a Pablo Picasso drawing from 1906 as well.

[bazzj04]

wow these are going up

cgi.ebay.co.uk/Banksy-collection-16-unique-sign-pieces-Lenin_W0QQitemZ140334484412QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_art_Sculpture_GL?hash=item20ac964bbc&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=65%3A12|66%3A2|39%3A1|72%3A1684|293%3A1|294%3A50

[alsbabar]

If you want further clarification of their fakeness, here are some obvious flaws with the banksy street pieces in her listings

Banksy Lenin
1. Note the hair spike circled is located differently on the original, on the fake it is also a different size
2. The name is located in a different place, if you notice the letter a is not in the correct place (on the original the A is in the black lepel of lenins coat)
3. The holes on the sign are located in different places also


Banksy A Very English Rat
1. Look at the location of the umbrella, circled area is further away in the original, compared to the fake
2. The tail curls up on the original, the fake doesnt
3. The fake has no holes for the screws


Banksy Binrat

1.in the original piece his tag slants more to the right than the fake
2. Look below the tag on the original, there is a moulding line running just below the it
3. The S is different to the original also
Original


Fake


Get on to ebay and report this - someone is going to get ripped off big time

[jusdeep]

AND another note on juliedd29's bulk street piece auction. Why would the sprayed radar rat be signed with Banksy's new signature?

[ramo]

The seller's answer of my question regarding the originality of the pieces:

"Hello and thanks for your interest. If you are the winner, you will receive
all paperwork and documents for each piece. (POW, ownerships) Each piece
has a proof and a history. Regards, -juliedd29"

[nacional]

Re. the way to spot the fakes. And before you suggest I am not selling any. Is it not possible that:
1) More than I, say, Lenin stencil exists and each one is slightly different.
2) There was more than, say, 1 Lenin stencil sprayed up, so the positioning etc will be different.

I suggest this as I purchased what was slated as definately a fake on here, and since have had it proven to be, without a shadow of a doubt and by the highest authorisation source going (I am not going to say what the piece was ot who authorised so don't bother asking), to be genuine.

So, don't always be too quick to say its a fake, you can get an original for less than 200 quid if you do your homework....

[alsbabar]

so its sheer coincidence then nacional that this single person has found all these originals, version of which have never been seen before?

[nacional]

I'm not referring to any one particular person and the Lenin may indeed be fake, that is why I wrote "say, Lenin" as in, for eaxmple, the Lenin stencil.

The point I'm making is that don't write them off as fakes, they may be the real deal....

[achtungbono]

Jul 24, 2009 19:04:50 GMT 1 nacional said:

I'm not referring to any one particular person and the Lenin may indeed be fake, that is why I wrote "say, Lenin" as in, for eaxmple, the Lenin stencil.

The point I'm making is that don't write them off as fakes, they may be the real deal....

you are wasting your time mate - some people are abolute in their belief to declare what is right or wrong, despite knowing the square root of fcuk all.

there is one person who can tell you if these are good & he isnt posting on this thread

As I said earlier, I would be might upset if I was selling something in good faith, to find that my sale had been scuppered by whispers and guesswork

[alsbabar]

get real achtung and nacional - this auction is such a crock of shit and you don't need one person to come on to this thread to confirm it - all you need to do is simply email the relevant people and ask for yourself. Anyone who thinks, with the exception possibly of the unlimited soupcans poster, that these pieces are genuine, more fool them.

"i collect originals and unlimited posters"

[nacional]

good lord man, do you actually read what I am writing: for the third time, I am not refering to a specific seller, I am making a generic comment about writing off all these as fakes. To repeat, do some homework and you can get an original for half the price of a crap donut print.

[achtungbono]

unfortunately, the trademark hysterical call out posts you make have proved to be fallacious & ill founded far too often of late.

I would suggest careful consideration over any Ebay purchase involving such large sums - art or otherwise

[alsbabar]

Jul 26, 2009 17:52:13 GMT 1 achtungbono said:

unfortunately, the trademark hysterical call out posts you make have proved to be fallacious & ill founded far too often of late.

I would suggest careful consideration over any Ebay purchase involving such large sums - art or otherwise

so you are saying my argument against these pieces are poor, even though i have put the evidence in front of you? Lets see what evidence you have to prove these pieces are real?

[elwheel]

Jul 26, 2009 17:48:46 GMT 1 nacional said:

good lord man, do you actually read what I am writing: for the third time, I am not refering to a specific seller, I am making a generic comment about writing off all these as fakes. To repeat, do some homework and you can get an original for half the price of a crap donut print.

nacional, I really am a lazy-ass, appreciate any links to that kind of action...

[alsbabar]

whats the verdict on this one then?

cgi.ebay.com/ORIGINAL-Banksy-artwork-Obey-Koons-Street-art-Eames_W0QQitemZ170361698433QQcmdZViewItemQQptZArt_Paintings?hash=item27aa593881&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=65%3A3|66%3A2|39%3A1|293%3A1|294%3A50

[wizzy]

Im sure i have seen that one before quite recently? has he bought it from a seller on ebay i wonder?.

[nacional]

Looks too clean and new to be from 2004, but one fake does not mean they all are....

[rosstierney]

Jul 26, 2009 19:03:59 GMT 1 @alsbabar said:

whats the verdict on this one then?

cgi.ebay.com/ORIGINAL-Banksy-artwork-Obey-Koons-Street-art-Eames_W0QQitemZ170361698433QQcmdZViewItemQQptZArt_Paintings?hash=item27aa593881&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=65%3A3|66%3A2|39%3A1|293%3A1|294%3A50

[srothson]

Jul 14, 2009 23:32:35 GMT 1 Daniel Silk said:

Jul 14, 2009 22:11:31 GMT 1 @dudebro17 said:

Are the backdoor prints considered fake or counterfeit? I remember Silky selling a whole bunch of them on ebay years ago? Any info on where those came from?

Not true

That is odd. Found this on the web.... Which time were you lying Silky?

[Daniel Silk]

Jul 31, 2009 16:36:17 GMT 1 srothson said:

Jul 14, 2009 23:32:35 GMT 1 Daniel Silk said:

Not true

That is odd. Found this on the web.... Which time were you lying Silky?

More bullsh*t from srothson aka dudebro17
urbanartassociation.com/index.c....ay&thread=38570

[rosstierney]

emilio501, chancing again?

cgi.ebay.co.uk/BANKSY-ORIGINAL-RADAR-RAT-SAND-STONE_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp3286Q2ec0Q2em14QQhashZitem439959a543QQitemZ290335597891QQptZUKQ5fArtQ5fCanvasGicleeQ5fRLQQsalenotsupported

[wizzy]

Which is the gallery that the seller refers to?

[rosstierney]

Aug 4, 2009 13:24:46 GMT 1 @wizzy said:

Which is the gallery that the seller refers to?

his own mythical one that represents the highly investable artist known as 'emo'

[nacional]

Have to be pedantic here, but any "gallery" owner would have a basic grasp of grammar and spelling if they are looking to rake in a few thousand. Try to cheat well for Christ' sake or don't bother....

[retardthebear]

Jul 7, 2009 10:27:03 GMT 1 achtungbono said:

Jul 7, 2009 10:08:51 GMT 1 @ronhill said:

cgi.ebay.co.uk/Banksy-paintings-on-2-rubbish-bins_W0QQitemZ190319742238QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_art_Paintings_GL?hash=item2c4ff0cd1e&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=65%3A3|66%3A2|39%3A1|240%3A1318|301%3A0|293%3A1|294%3A50

rubbish

literally

be a laugh to get this guy popping in his local post office with all the old dears there trying to post two wheely bins

[howies]

What do we think of this as the seller is not being very helpful,
cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=330350396277#ht_150wt_300


here is his answers to questions

Q: hi there. does this print have the red banksy tag.also do you have any provenance or c.o.a. many thanks. 09-Aug-09
A: only some were stamped . got no provenance . could get it i suppose but can't be bothered . i don't buy fakes though and have a house full of original work's . should be more up on ebay soon
Q: Do you have provenence for this print? original receipt, registered in your name etc? thanks 09-Aug-09
A: got nothing mate . i don't think about that stuff or keep it when i buy art work

[shaunyboy]

Hi guys,

Here is a link to how collectors of Clarice Cliff have dealt with the issue of fakes being on ebay.

claricecliff.infopop.cc/eve/ubb.x/a/frm/f/878101301

May be helpful.

[achtungbono]

and heres a link that will get the conspiracy theorists and hysterics shouting at their spittle flecked 'puter screens

cgi.ebay.co.uk/Banksy-Unsigned-Trolleys-Printers-Proof_W0QQitemZ260462683352QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_art_prints_GL?hash=item3ca4c924d8&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14