Banksy's on eBay • Real or Fake?

[corblimeylimey]

I don't understand why some people are moaning so much about getting rid of irrelevant listings when you're trying to find something you want.

How do you guys organise your music? Mainly Dance over here but about a third of it is Country & Western with the odd mug, Jazz over there but about half of it is Film Soundtracks or Rap and fridge magnets. ;D

[saltandiron]

corblimeylimey said:

I don't understand why some people are moaning so much about getting rid of irrelevant listings when you're trying to find something you want.

How do you guys organise your music? Mainly Dance over here but about a third of it is Country & Western with the odd mug, Jazz over there but about half of it is Film Soundtracks or Rap and fridge magnets. ;D

And The Rolling Stones, with free john coltrane sticker

[numusic]

irf2112 said:

Homework for everyone - Lets all find atleast one non-banksy item with Banksy in the title and report it to ebay... If all do just one it'd make a big difference (and p*ss the profiteers off at the same time). Its a win-win situation...

Half the forum wouldn't know about a ton of othger artists if it wasn't for keyword spamming. You'd have to do ten different searches for Dface, Eine, Baldwin, Micallef etc.. I actually prefer to stick in Banksy and maybe stumble across something else also.

[corblimeylimey]

numusic said:

irf2112 said:

Homework for everyone - Lets all find atleast one non-banksy item with Banksy in the title and report it to ebay... If all do just one it'd make a big difference (and p*ss the profiteers off at the same time). Its a win-win situation...

Half the forum wouldn't know about a ton of othger artists if it wasn't for keyword spamming. You'd have to do ten different searches for Dface, Eine, Baldwin, Micallef etc.. I actually prefer to stick in Banksy and maybe stumble across something else also.

You'd need to do a seperate search anyway as they'd only be a small fraction of Dface, Eine, Baldwin, Micallef etc in the Banksy sale items and you'd probably find one cheaper by doing a proper search.

I'm sure this forum has has done the job of introducing new artists to members better than ebay has.

[taktheride]

you can just search for Banksy, and items costing $150 or pounds or more.. That weeds out almost everything thats crap.

[tomhills1]

isn't this all a bit like standing on the waters edge trying to hold back the tide? futile. (unless the tide's going out of course!)

[corblimeylimey]

tomhills1 said:

isn't this all a bit like standing on the waters edge trying to hold back the tide? futile. (unless the tide's going out of course!)

I don't think so.
It must be very annoying having your listing pulled (you may lose a higher bid and if time was an issue, that too). I'm sure rather than go through the hassle of list pull, relist pull, they'd just learn to do it right in the first place.
Also it will be a snowball effect because anyone who's tried it a few times and had to relist the correct way is going to be pissed off with someone else getting away with it so there will be even more spotters and reporters.

As I said earlier what's the problem? it'll be a level playing field for everyone, and buyers can clearly see what they're looking for.

[tomhills1]

i don't disagree with the sentiment, life would be so much easier if you didn't have to wade through all the crap. as for the whole losing out on a high bidder thing, doesn't really stand up when applied to all the t-shirts, mugs and fridge magnets that are on buy it now's for tuppence and each seller is listing about 200 at a time under prints, it means reporting every listing individually and how mny people can be arsed to do that?

i know you're referring to actual prints by other artists tenuously linked to banksy so as to cross-promote, but i think that is a much smaller problem by comparison.

[Viva Hate]

Ive had my listings pulled 3 times in short succession, bacuse I had the word Banksy in. I can see where they are coming from by doing this, but being biased its time consuming.

[corblimeylimey]

coventry said:

Ive had my listings pulled 3 times in short succession, bacuse I had the word Banksy in. I can see where they are coming from by doing this, but being biased its time consuming.

Don't blame me, I haven't said anything to ebay yet.

Why not just play the game, and I'm sure if you see some listings that are not, you'll be pissed off and report them yourself.

[Harveyn]

Just wonder whether people thought this was real or fake and whether it should be left on the street (right or wrong)?

cgi.ebay.co.uk/original-banksy-peice-rat-on-bollard-from-london-uk_W0QQitemZ300152931914QQihZ020QQcategoryZ360QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

[jonpud]

Not an expert but quality not good, no photo's of it in situ, wouldn't get my money, wouldn't ever buy a street piece off anyone anyway. Street is where they belong!

[thesewalls]

agreed. street - for the public - is where they belong. a major function of street art is to reclaim pubic space, not take it home and especially not sell it on frickin ebay. there was a D*Face piece up last week for 900 quid - didn't sell to my knowledge. dude said it was signed by the artist, an original work. yeah, no shit, but it was NEVER MEANT TO BE FOR SALE!!

[kingkambo]

Also agree, but some artists do encourage peple to take art- on Red propeller they have an artist called jet black, on his bio it says if your lucky enough to find any of his street pieces take it! must say that Banksy bollard does look a bit iffy, and the guys description made me laugh...

[Macdeee]

Dont forget D*face holding events under the name of "Finders Keepers" He actively encouraged people to take art off the walls.

[jonpud]

Anyone else see this? Looks bad to me!

Dodgy signature on Love Rat, sold on Ebay for £5100 190215073518


Compared to;

Good signature on Love Rat currently for sale on Ebay 180234743275


Hope the buyer checked provenance, easy to sign an unsigned copy and alter the number!!?

[Prescription Art]

Apr 23, 2008 15:14:34 GMT 1 @jonpud said:

Anyone else see this? Looks bad to me!

Dodgy signature on Love Rat, sold on Ebay for £5100 190215073518


Compared to;

Good signature on Love Rat currently for sale on Ebay 180234743275


Hope the buyer checked provenance, easy to sign an unsigned copy and alter the number!!?

Wow, that signature looks shifty as hell.

[jonpud]

Also, I think the POW stamp is on the side of the unsigned versions of the 'dodgy' one!?

Never seen Banksy sign with a 'rounded' B before!

[atomone]

I smell a rat!! looks totally different!!!

[Prescription Art]

I doubt very much that the stamp is consistently on one side or the other.

[Guest]

maybe drop an email to the buyer? looks very suspect

[Phil Midds]

Apr 23, 2008 15:14:34 GMT 1 @jonpud said:

Anyone else see this? Looks bad to me!

Dodgy signature on Love Rat, sold on Ebay for £5100 190215073518
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Compared to;

Good signature on Love Rat currently for sale on Ebay 180234743275

Hope the buyer checked provenance, easy to sign an unsigned copy and alter the number!!?

I've noticed that the consistancy of his signature varies quite considerably - even on my very genuine signed prints. Like you say though it's always a good idea to follow up provenance for peace of mind when you're spending this much money

[jonpud]

Apr 23, 2008 15:22:58 GMT 1 @ronhill said:

maybe drop an email to the buyer? looks very suspect

It was a hidden auction so couldn't warn him!

Just have to be so careful, I'm no expert but that stinks to me and I would never have bid on it!

[Guest]

private auctions, seems like they had something to hide? I dont like bidding on them.

[giiiant]

Hard to say... Looking at the B it's like he started writing his name out non-signature style then remembered what was going on half way through. That or it's fake

edit: But then again they were done a year apart so who knows

[Prescription Art]

Apr 23, 2008 15:23:42 GMT 1 Phil Midds said:

Apr 23, 2008 15:14:34 GMT 1 @jonpud said:

Anyone else see this? Looks bad to me!

Dodgy signature on Love Rat, sold on Ebay for £5100 190215073518
[
Compared to;

Good signature on Love Rat currently for sale on Ebay 180234743275

Hope the buyer checked provenance, easy to sign an unsigned copy and alter the number!!?

I've noticed that the consistancy of his signature varies quite considerably - even on my very genuine signed prints. Like you say though it's always a good idea to follow up provenance for peace of mind when you're spending this much money

His signature has varied a lot over time, but not generally by much within each print edition (but they weren't generally all signed at the same time so the signature does change).

I've never seen a sig like this though. The 'B' in particular doesn't look at all right. I'd want to check that provenance hard.

[They call me Stephen]

looks very shifty to me as well...i wouldnt like to be reading this thread now having just parted £5000+ for it!

[arcam]

I've never seen a 'B' like that.

[njr911]

looks rought to me,

the way the Y points, K and the S are way off. infact all the letters look duff to me

[otomi]

they are from different years - one is 04 and one is 05 - can that be?