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Banksy - Tesco: tomato soup sold for 4,480$!, by Carl Cashman on Dec 21, 2018 11:37:39 GMT 1, Thats the most bent auction site going, 95% of the stuff is fake.
Mad result, have they paid up ?
Thats the most bent auction site going, 95% of the stuff is fake.
Mad result, have they paid up ?
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kranio23
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Banksy - Tesco: tomato soup sold for 4,480$!, by kranio23 on Dec 21, 2018 11:46:10 GMT 1, Honestly I don't know if they paid up (do not know how to verify it actually, if you do please point me to it), but that's a an official auction result.
I don't know that auction website, found googling for it. Based on your statement every auction result can be a fake because there is no transparency on buyers details and on payment transactions. (art should just use public blockchains to solve this issue)
Thus, we can take this result as TRUE, until otherwise demonstrated.
Honestly I don't know if they paid up (do not know how to verify it actually, if you do please point me to it), but that's a an official auction result.
I don't know that auction website, found googling for it. Based on your statement every auction result can be a fake because there is no transparency on buyers details and on payment transactions. (art should just use public blockchains to solve this issue)
Thus, we can take this result as TRUE, until otherwise demonstrated.
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Banksy - Tesco: tomato soup sold for 4,480$!, by geester on Dec 21, 2018 11:51:18 GMT 1, Honestly I don't know if they paid up (do not know how to verify it actually, if you do please point me to it), but that's a an official auction result. I don't know that auction website, found googling for it. Based on your statement every auction result can be a fake because there is no transparency on buyers details and on payment transactions. (art should just use public blockchains to solve this issue) Thus, we can take this result as TRUE, until otherwise demonstrated.
Honestly I don't know if they paid up (do not know how to verify it actually, if you do please point me to it), but that's a an official auction result. I don't know that auction website, found googling for it. Based on your statement every auction result can be a fake because there is no transparency on buyers details and on payment transactions. (art should just use public blockchains to solve this issue) Thus, we can take this result as TRUE, until otherwise demonstrated. If you want an accurate value of this poster look at the sold ones on ebay, not some one off freak sale at a moody auction house. |
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Banksy - Tesco: tomato soup sold for 4,480$!, by Carl Cashman on Dec 21, 2018 11:54:27 GMT 1,
Honestly I don't know if they paid up (do not know how to verify it actually, if you do please point me to it), but that's a an official auction result. I don't know that auction website, found googling for it. Based on your statement every auction result can be a fake because there is no transparency on buyers details and on payment transactions. (art should just use public blockchains to solve this issue) Thus, we can take this result as TRUE, until otherwise demonstrated.
Ok this response makes me think somethings up. You're far too defensive of a auction 'house' that is known to sell fake items regularly.
Congrats on your sale
Honestly I don't know if they paid up (do not know how to verify it actually, if you do please point me to it), but that's a an official auction result. I don't know that auction website, found googling for it. Based on your statement every auction result can be a fake because there is no transparency on buyers details and on payment transactions. (art should just use public blockchains to solve this issue) Thus, we can take this result as TRUE, until otherwise demonstrated. Ok this response makes me think somethings up. You're far too defensive of a auction 'house' that is known to sell fake items regularly. Congrats on your sale |
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kranio23
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Banksy - Tesco: tomato soup sold for 4,480$!, by kranio23 on Dec 21, 2018 11:57:33 GMT 1, Honestly I don't know if they paid up (do not know how to verify it actually, if you do please point me to it), but that's a an official auction result. I don't know that auction website, found googling for it. Based on your statement every auction result can be a fake because there is no transparency on buyers details and on payment transactions. (art should just use public blockchains to solve this issue) Thus, we can take this result as TRUE, until otherwise demonstrated. If you want an accurate value of this poster look at the sold ones on ebay, not some one off freak sale at a moody auction house.
Ofc value estimation would be made based on different price sources, at least making a weighted or normal average calculation.
Ebay gives a good sign of the selling pressure for a certain artist/artoworks but at least with Auction houses you have more (you should at least) chance that the work is original.
Prices are subjectives in art (but in some way works the same with every other market where the exchange between a medium and money is made) thus you can offer for an artwork 3 USD and the person behind you can instead bid 3 Millions for it.
I wasn't looking to get a "fair price" for this artwork, I just wanted to show you all the fact that one of this works has been sold for that amount of money (which in my opinion is quite mad! but better for any of the early steppers).
Honestly I don't know if they paid up (do not know how to verify it actually, if you do please point me to it), but that's a an official auction result. I don't know that auction website, found googling for it. Based on your statement every auction result can be a fake because there is no transparency on buyers details and on payment transactions. (art should just use public blockchains to solve this issue) Thus, we can take this result as TRUE, until otherwise demonstrated. If you want an accurate value of this poster look at the sold ones on ebay, not some one off freak sale at a moody auction house. Ofc value estimation would be made based on different price sources, at least making a weighted or normal average calculation. Ebay gives a good sign of the selling pressure for a certain artist/artoworks but at least with Auction houses you have more (you should at least) chance that the work is original. Prices are subjectives in art (but in some way works the same with every other market where the exchange between a medium and money is made) thus you can offer for an artwork 3 USD and the person behind you can instead bid 3 Millions for it. I wasn't looking to get a "fair price" for this artwork, I just wanted to show you all the fact that one of this works has been sold for that amount of money (which in my opinion is quite mad! but better for any of the early steppers). |
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Banksy - Tesco: tomato soup sold for 4,480$!, by Deleted on Dec 21, 2018 11:57:44 GMT 1,
Well i just got astonished by your post, please shine some light on the pathways you have chosen.
Well i just got astonished by your post, please shine some light on the pathways you have chosen. |
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Banksy - Tesco: tomato soup sold for 4,480$!, by detail on Dec 21, 2018 11:58:03 GMT 1, Why would someone pay $4480 for a poster you can get on EBay any day of the week for $500?
It would not be wise 'take this as TRUE until otherwise demonstrated'. It probably isn't true, and even if it is then it's a one off result due to someone having more money than sense and not an indication of the actual value of a soup can poster.
Why would someone pay $4480 for a poster you can get on EBay any day of the week for $500?
It would not be wise 'take this as TRUE until otherwise demonstrated'. It probably isn't true, and even if it is then it's a one off result due to someone having more money than sense and not an indication of the actual value of a soup can poster.
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Banksy - Tesco: tomato soup sold for 4,480$!, by kranio23 on Dec 21, 2018 11:59:26 GMT 1, Honestly I don't know if they paid up (do not know how to verify it actually, if you do please point me to it), but that's a an official auction result. I don't know that auction website, found googling for it. Based on your statement every auction result can be a fake because there is no transparency on buyers details and on payment transactions. (art should just use public blockchains to solve this issue) Thus, we can take this result as TRUE, until otherwise demonstrated. Ok this response makes me think somethings up. You're far too defensive of a auction 'house' that is known to sell fake items regularly. Congrats on your sale
LOL, going to post a photo for you that I still hold mine.
I just wonder why you are so aggressive to this website?
Honestly I don't know if they paid up (do not know how to verify it actually, if you do please point me to it), but that's a an official auction result. I don't know that auction website, found googling for it. Based on your statement every auction result can be a fake because there is no transparency on buyers details and on payment transactions. (art should just use public blockchains to solve this issue) Thus, we can take this result as TRUE, until otherwise demonstrated. Ok this response makes me think somethings up. You're far too defensive of a auction 'house' that is known to sell fake items regularly. Congrats on your sale LOL, going to post a photo for you that I still hold mine. I just wonder why you are so aggressive to this website? |
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Banksy - Tesco: tomato soup sold for 4,480$!, by kranio23 on Dec 21, 2018 12:01:40 GMT 1, Why would someone pay $4480 for a poster you can get on EBay any day of the week for $500? It would not be wise 'take this as TRUE until otherwise demonstrated'. It probably isn't true, and even if it is then it's a one off result due to someone having more money than sense and not an indication of the actual value of a soup can poster.
Why would someone pay $4480 for a poster you can get on EBay any day of the week for $500? It would not be wise 'take this as TRUE until otherwise demonstrated'. It probably isn't true, and even if it is then it's a one off result due to someone having more money than sense and not an indication of the actual value of a soup can poster. That's what I thought too. |
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Banksy - Tesco: tomato soup sold for 4,480$!, by sfnyc on Dec 21, 2018 12:03:27 GMT 1, I visited their Beverly Hills auction / show room, which is a pretty big space in the center of Beverly Hills with heavy foot traffic. It appears they probably get a lot of new buyers who dont know the value of these pieces and get carried away by the auction room, and I believe they picked that location for that reason as well.
I visited their Beverly Hills auction / show room, which is a pretty big space in the center of Beverly Hills with heavy foot traffic. It appears they probably get a lot of new buyers who dont know the value of these pieces and get carried away by the auction room, and I believe they picked that location for that reason as well.
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kranio23
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Banksy - Tesco: tomato soup sold for 4,480$!, by kranio23 on Dec 21, 2018 12:08:06 GMT 1, Anyway the price on ebay for this artwork ranges from 700 to 1500 eur, without shipping.
But again would you trust more an auction house or a 50 feedback of 30$ each seller on ebay?
Anyway the price on ebay for this artwork ranges from 700 to 1500 eur, without shipping.
But again would you trust more an auction house or a 50 feedback of 30$ each seller on ebay?
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Banksy - Tesco: tomato soup sold for 4,480$!, by Carl Cashman on Dec 21, 2018 12:09:01 GMT 1, Ok this response makes me think somethings up. You're far too defensive of a auction 'house' that is known to sell fake items regularly. Congrats on your sale LOL, going to post a photo for you that I still hold mine. I just wonder why you are so aggressive to this website?
Ps, I have this poster too so it'd be in my interest for it to sell for so much and hype it up.
Il repeat myself, congrats on the sale... it's a nice pre Xmas bonus
Ok this response makes me think somethings up. You're far too defensive of a auction 'house' that is known to sell fake items regularly. Congrats on your sale LOL, going to post a photo for you that I still hold mine. I just wonder why you are so aggressive to this website? Why would I want to see yours ? And how have I been aggressive? You know a lot for someone that joined the forum in the last 24 hours. You may want to check your own responses for that. Ps, I have this poster too so it'd be in my interest for it to sell for so much and hype it up. Il repeat myself, congrats on the sale... it's a nice pre Xmas bonus |
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Banksy - Tesco: tomato soup sold for 4,480$!, by kranio23 on Dec 21, 2018 12:11:35 GMT 1, LOL, going to post a photo for you that I still hold mine. I just wonder why you are so aggressive to this website? Why would I want to see yours ? And how have I been aggressive? You may want to check your own responses for that. Ps, I have this poster too so it'd be in my interest for it to sell for so much and hype it up. Il repeat myself, congrats on the sale... it's a nice pre Xmas bonus
Again I'm not in rush to sell anything from my collection, and this won't go far away anytime soon.
I understand clearly that every forum needs his own trolly actor. Just relax mate, it's a matter of fun not fights.
I would be interested to buy your for 500$ anyway if you think that that is a fair price. We do not want the "street" art get overvalued isn't it?
edit: for you info I'm not an auction houses fan or whatever, I always prefer the direct contact with the artist or a p2p way of exchanging art. Just stop harassing me with your assumptions, you're becoming stinky already.
LOL, going to post a photo for you that I still hold mine. I just wonder why you are so aggressive to this website? Why would I want to see yours ? And how have I been aggressive? You may want to check your own responses for that. Ps, I have this poster too so it'd be in my interest for it to sell for so much and hype it up. Il repeat myself, congrats on the sale... it's a nice pre Xmas bonus Again I'm not in rush to sell anything from my collection, and this won't go far away anytime soon. I understand clearly that every forum needs his own trolly actor. Just relax mate, it's a matter of fun not fights. I would be interested to buy your for 500$ anyway if you think that that is a fair price. We do not want the "street" art get overvalued isn't it? edit: for you info I'm not an auction houses fan or whatever, I always prefer the direct contact with the artist or a p2p way of exchanging art. Just stop harassing me with your assumptions, you're becoming stinky already. |
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Banksy - Tesco: tomato soup sold for 4,480$!, by Carl Cashman on Dec 21, 2018 12:12:42 GMT 1, Ok this response makes me think somethings up. You're far too defensive of a auction 'house' that is known to sell fake items regularly. Congrats on your sale I think he forgot the T on cant in his last sentence, kinda mullered the context quite a lot.
Ok this response makes me think somethings up. You're far too defensive of a auction 'house' that is known to sell fake items regularly. Congrats on your sale I think he forgot the T on cant in his last sentence, kinda mullered the context quite a lot. Maybe, it's the assuming that I think auction houses with High results are fake that confused me. I was more thinking of the fake listings that are always on there with COAs |
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Banksy - Tesco: tomato soup sold for 4,480$!, by Carl Cashman on Dec 21, 2018 12:14:25 GMT 1,
Why would I want to see yours ? And how have I been aggressive? You may want to check your own responses for that. Ps, I have this poster too so it'd be in my interest for it to sell for so much and hype it up. Il repeat myself, congrats on the sale... it's a nice pre Xmas bonus Again I'm not in rush to sell anything from my collection, and this won't go far away anytime soon. I understand clearly that every forum needs his own trolly actor. Just relax mate, it's a matter of fun not fights. I would be interested to buy your for 500$ anyway if you think that that is a fair price. We do not want the "street" art get overvalued isn't it?
Lol I'm not fighting, just don't want people getting scammed.
Mines not for sale either as it was a gift from another forum member last year.
Why would I want to see yours ? And how have I been aggressive? You may want to check your own responses for that. Ps, I have this poster too so it'd be in my interest for it to sell for so much and hype it up. Il repeat myself, congrats on the sale... it's a nice pre Xmas bonus Again I'm not in rush to sell anything from my collection, and this won't go far away anytime soon. I understand clearly that every forum needs his own trolly actor. Just relax mate, it's a matter of fun not fights. I would be interested to buy your for 500$ anyway if you think that that is a fair price. We do not want the "street" art get overvalued isn't it? Lol I'm not fighting, just don't want people getting scammed. Mines not for sale either as it was a gift from another forum member last year. |
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Banksy - Tesco: tomato soup sold for 4,480$!, by rebate on Dec 21, 2018 12:16:34 GMT 1, I think he forgot the T on cant in his last sentence, kinda mullered the context quite a lot. Maybe, it's the assuming that I think auction houses with High results are fake that confused me. I was more thinking of the fake listings that are always on there with COAs
I think he forgot the T on cant in his last sentence, kinda mullered the context quite a lot. Maybe, it's the assuming that I think auction houses with High results are fake that confused me. I was more thinking of the fake listings that are always on there with COAs Im confused now! i deleted that post as he then compares Juliens as legit over and ebay seller with 30 feedback, not sure he did accidentally leave the T off anymore! Maybe he just doesnt realise how crap an auction house they are, or even that there are sketchy ones! |
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Banksy - Tesco: tomato soup sold for 4,480$!, by Carl Cashman on Dec 21, 2018 12:19:45 GMT 1, Got as far as page/item 4 in that auction before my point was proven 
Got as far as page/item 4 in that auction before my point was proven |
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Banksy - Tesco: tomato soup sold for 4,480$!, by kranio23 on Dec 21, 2018 12:21:46 GMT 1, May I ask you which are the best auction houses to check sales results for that kind of sales?
Thanks
edit: again for your info I'm not an auction houses fan or whatever, I always prefer the direct contact with the artist or a p2p way of exchanging art. Just stop harassing me with your assumptions. I just want to have a wider look at the market for urban art so that I evaluate all the possible and available sources to make my researches. Nothing more, nothing less.
May I ask you which are the best auction houses to check sales results for that kind of sales?
Thanks
edit: again for your info I'm not an auction houses fan or whatever, I always prefer the direct contact with the artist or a p2p way of exchanging art. Just stop harassing me with your assumptions. I just want to have a wider look at the market for urban art so that I evaluate all the possible and available sources to make my researches. Nothing more, nothing less.
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Banksy - Tesco: tomato soup sold for 4,480$!, by happy go lucky chap on Dec 21, 2018 12:23:08 GMT 1, Excellent news, that surely means my POW Bristol Museum Banksy Dorothy posters must be worth about £5K a pop
....so glad I bought half a dozen 😜
Excellent news, that surely means my POW Bristol Museum Banksy Dorothy posters must be worth about £5K a pop
....so glad I bought half a dozen 😜
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Banksy - Tesco: tomato soup sold for 4,480$!, by Carl Cashman on Dec 21, 2018 12:23:52 GMT 1, May I ask you which are the best auction houses to check sales results for that kind of sales? Thanks
May I ask you which are the best auction houses to check sales results for that kind of sales? Thanks Best off with eBay mate, or maybe forum auctions |
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Banksy - Tesco: tomato soup sold for 4,480$!, by kranio23 on Dec 21, 2018 12:25:06 GMT 1, May I ask you which are the best auction houses to check sales results for that kind of sales? Thanks Best off with eBay mate, or maybe forum auctions
May I ask you which are the best auction houses to check sales results for that kind of sales? Thanks Best off with eBay mate, or maybe forum auctions Please read 2 posts above. |
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Banksy - Tesco: tomato soup sold for 4,480$!, by happyshopper on Dec 21, 2018 12:25:44 GMT 1, May I ask you which are the best auction houses to check sales results for that kind of sales? Thanks
For posters... Ebay
For prints... Phillips, Bonhams... any of the big, well known ones!
May I ask you which are the best auction houses to check sales results for that kind of sales? Thanks For posters... Ebay For prints... Phillips, Bonhams... any of the big, well known ones! |
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Banksy - Tesco: tomato soup sold for 4,480$!, by Carl Cashman on Dec 21, 2018 12:31:47 GMT 1, Best off with eBay mate, or maybe forum auctions Please read 2 posts above.
Best off with eBay mate, or maybe forum auctions Please read 2 posts above. I answered your question in a friendly manor, I don't understand your problem other than you have a massive chip on your shoulder. Have a great Christmas |
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Banksy - Tesco: tomato soup sold for 4,480$!, by dappy on Dec 21, 2018 12:37:33 GMT 1, ... astonished ...
... astonished ...
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Banksy - Tesco: tomato soup sold for 4,480$!, by RouenCathedral on Dec 21, 2018 12:58:47 GMT 1, Fake news!
Fake news!
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Banksy - Tesco: tomato soup sold for 4,480$!, by Deleted on Dec 21, 2018 14:02:41 GMT 1, Could this be a 4th or is it 5th account for a well known online gallery perhaps?
Could this be a 4th or is it 5th account for a well known online gallery perhaps?
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Banksy - Tesco: tomato soup sold for 4,480$!, by iamzero on Dec 21, 2018 18:10:59 GMT 1, £450 tops... and I have three of them.
£450 tops... and I have three of them.
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Banksy - Tesco: tomato soup sold for 4,480$!, by TheItalianOne on Dec 21, 2018 18:18:51 GMT 1, does the value increase if i still have the email received in my name from POW with the original cost (10gbp) ?  ?
does the value increase if i still have the email received in my name from POW with the original cost (10gbp) ? ? |
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Banksy - Tesco: tomato soup sold for 4,480$!, by juni0209 on Dec 21, 2018 18:54:01 GMT 1, I would like to own one some day. If someone can offer me one for a decent price please PM me
I would like to own one some day. If someone can offer me one for a decent price please PM me
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