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Banksy Raffle • Dismaland Refugee Boat, by Rouen Cathedral on Dec 1, 2018 23:19:36 GMT 1, Well.... ….. aaaahhh, Murrke off ! Rather than getting angry perhaps the chap needs a little education. It's clear from his arguments he does not understand how it is done. No doubt he believe that Anish Kapoor single handedly built the orbit in the Olympic Park and Henry Moore cast and built every piece of sculpture that bears his signature. SPOILER ALLERT: The truth is, however painful it may be for you, the artist conceives the idea and someone else builds it for the artist. The artist had the idea, he/she has approval rights. He/she signs it and the work is known as the work of the artist not the minions who worked on it. Is that clear for you. Now can we close this subject and move on to the real subject.
In the cases you mentioned I'm sure there is quite a provenance on the conception and planning of those works by those individual artists.
You have that in this case?
Well.... ….. aaaahhh, Murrke off ! Rather than getting angry perhaps the chap needs a little education. It's clear from his arguments he does not understand how it is done. No doubt he believe that Anish Kapoor single handedly built the orbit in the Olympic Park and Henry Moore cast and built every piece of sculpture that bears his signature. SPOILER ALLERT: The truth is, however painful it may be for you, the artist conceives the idea and someone else builds it for the artist. The artist had the idea, he/she has approval rights. He/she signs it and the work is known as the work of the artist not the minions who worked on it. Is that clear for you. Now can we close this subject and move on to the real subject. In the cases you mentioned I'm sure there is quite a provenance on the conception and planning of those works by those individual artists. You have that in this case? |
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Banksy Raffle • Dismaland Refugee Boat, by Express Post on Dec 1, 2018 23:38:44 GMT 1, You should start collecting sea shells or pet rocks instead of art. You wouldn't have to deal with any more of these problems.
Rather than getting angry perhaps the chap needs a little education. It's clear from his arguments he does not understand how it is done. No doubt he believe that Anish Kapoor single handedly built the orbit in the Olympic Park and Henry Moore cast and built every piece of sculpture that bears his signature. SPOILER ALLERT: The truth is, however painful it may be for you, the artist conceives the idea and someone else builds it for the artist. The artist had the idea, he/she has approval rights. He/she signs it and the work is known as the work of the artist not the minions who worked on it. Is that clear for you. Now can we close this subject and move on to the real subject. In the cases you mentioned I'm sure there is quite a provenance on the conception and planning of those works by those individual artists. You have that in this case?
You should start collecting sea shells or pet rocks instead of art. You wouldn't have to deal with any more of these problems. Rather than getting angry perhaps the chap needs a little education. It's clear from his arguments he does not understand how it is done. No doubt he believe that Anish Kapoor single handedly built the orbit in the Olympic Park and Henry Moore cast and built every piece of sculpture that bears his signature. SPOILER ALLERT: The truth is, however painful it may be for you, the artist conceives the idea and someone else builds it for the artist. The artist had the idea, he/she has approval rights. He/she signs it and the work is known as the work of the artist not the minions who worked on it. Is that clear for you. Now can we close this subject and move on to the real subject. In the cases you mentioned I'm sure there is quite a provenance on the conception and planning of those works by those individual artists. You have that in this case? |
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Banksy Raffle • Dismaland Refugee Boat, by kaos on Dec 1, 2018 23:41:48 GMT 1, Rather than getting angry perhaps the chap needs a little education. It's clear from his arguments he does not understand how it is done. No doubt he believe that Anish Kapoor single handedly built the orbit in the Olympic Park and Henry Moore cast and built every piece of sculpture that bears his signature. SPOILER ALLERT: The truth is, however painful it may be for you, the artist conceives the idea and someone else builds it for the artist. The artist had the idea, he/she has approval rights. He/she signs it and the work is known as the work of the artist not the minions who worked on it. Is that clear for you. Now can we close this subject and move on to the real subject. In the cases you mentioned I'm sure there is quite a provenance on the conception and planning of those works by those individual artists. You have that in this case?
Enough Already!!!!
Rather than getting angry perhaps the chap needs a little education. It's clear from his arguments he does not understand how it is done. No doubt he believe that Anish Kapoor single handedly built the orbit in the Olympic Park and Henry Moore cast and built every piece of sculpture that bears his signature. SPOILER ALLERT: The truth is, however painful it may be for you, the artist conceives the idea and someone else builds it for the artist. The artist had the idea, he/she has approval rights. He/she signs it and the work is known as the work of the artist not the minions who worked on it. Is that clear for you. Now can we close this subject and move on to the real subject. In the cases you mentioned I'm sure there is quite a provenance on the conception and planning of those works by those individual artists. You have that in this case? Any work claimed by an artist as his/her work - that is your provenance. It is very clear from everything I have read Banksy is claiming this boat is his work. He may or may not have sat down with super glue and put every piece together but as far as anyone is concerned this is a Banksy no buts no ifs. Enough Already!!!! |
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Banksy Raffle • Dismaland Refugee Boat, by Masong on Dec 1, 2018 23:53:11 GMT 1, So the Grapling Hook is also not an Original Banksy sculpture? Or do you think he made all 25 (or something) of those ? The description says : "This coin operated sculpture was created by the graffiti artist Banksy". So it's attributed to Banksy. If he actually glued it together himslef is not really relevant. Maybe he did. Maybe he has help. Or had it made. It's still an Original Banksy. Dismaland was created by banksy. Does that mean every single thing there is a banksy original? What about that green and white blob in the background? Banksy original? I hope that's up for chairty next! Would look good on my backyard pond! I get it. He's hyping it to get the money. Good for him and the cause. It's the sad people believing this is a banksy original worth 100k that I'm criticising. Not banksy nor the chairity but I'm not shocked people can't comprehend that.
Does every KFC secret recipe have to be made by the colonel?
So the Grapling Hook is also not an Original Banksy sculpture? Or do you think he made all 25 (or something) of those ? The description says : "This coin operated sculpture was created by the graffiti artist Banksy". So it's attributed to Banksy. If he actually glued it together himslef is not really relevant. Maybe he did. Maybe he has help. Or had it made. It's still an Original Banksy. Dismaland was created by banksy. Does that mean every single thing there is a banksy original? What about that green and white blob in the background? Banksy original? I hope that's up for chairty next! Would look good on my backyard pond! I get it. He's hyping it to get the money. Good for him and the cause. It's the sad people believing this is a banksy original worth 100k that I'm criticising. Not banksy nor the chairity but I'm not shocked people can't comprehend that. Does every KFC secret recipe have to be made by the colonel? |
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Banksy Raffle • Dismaland Refugee Boat, by Rouen Cathedral on Dec 1, 2018 23:58:38 GMT 1, You should start collecting sea shells or pet rocks instead of art. You wouldn't have to deal with any more of these problems. In the cases you mentioned I'm sure there is quite a provenance on the conception and planning of those works by those individual artists. You have that in this case?
Where did I say it was a problem?
You should start collecting sea shells or pet rocks instead of art. You wouldn't have to deal with any more of these problems. In the cases you mentioned I'm sure there is quite a provenance on the conception and planning of those works by those individual artists. You have that in this case? Where did I say it was a problem? |
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Banksy Raffle • Dismaland Refugee Boat, by Rouen Cathedral on Dec 2, 2018 0:02:05 GMT 1, In the cases you mentioned I'm sure there is quite a provenance on the conception and planning of those works by those individual artists. You have that in this case? Any work claimed by an artist as his/her work - that is your provenance. It is very clear from everything I have read Banksy is claiming this boat is his work. He may or may not have sat down with super glue and put every piece together but as far as anyone is concerned this is a Banksy no buts no ifs. Enough Already!!!!
This is lazy acceptance to me. Like I said are you claiming every single thing associated with banksy as an original in these large interactive installations? Maybe we should...
In the cases you mentioned I'm sure there is quite a provenance on the conception and planning of those works by those individual artists. You have that in this case? Any work claimed by an artist as his/her work - that is your provenance. It is very clear from everything I have read Banksy is claiming this boat is his work. He may or may not have sat down with super glue and put every piece together but as far as anyone is concerned this is a Banksy no buts no ifs. Enough Already!!!! This is lazy acceptance to me. Like I said are you claiming every single thing associated with banksy as an original in these large interactive installations? Maybe we should... |
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Banksy Raffle • Dismaland Refugee Boat, by Rouen Cathedral on Dec 2, 2018 0:02:53 GMT 1, Dismaland was created by banksy. Does that mean every single thing there is a banksy original? What about that green and white blob in the background? Banksy original? I hope that's up for chairty next! Would look good on my backyard pond! I get it. He's hyping it to get the money. Good for him and the cause. It's the sad people believing this is a banksy original worth 100k that I'm criticising. Not banksy nor the chairity but I'm not shocked people can't comprehend that. Does every KFC secret recipe have to be made by the colonel?
The colonel is a mascot for a company. Are you call banksy a mascot for a company of artists?
Maybe you are right...
Dismaland was created by banksy. Does that mean every single thing there is a banksy original? What about that green and white blob in the background? Banksy original? I hope that's up for chairty next! Would look good on my backyard pond! I get it. He's hyping it to get the money. Good for him and the cause. It's the sad people believing this is a banksy original worth 100k that I'm criticising. Not banksy nor the chairity but I'm not shocked people can't comprehend that. Does every KFC secret recipe have to be made by the colonel? The colonel is a mascot for a company. Are you call banksy a mascot for a company of artists? Maybe you are right... |
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Banksy Raffle • Dismaland Refugee Boat, by Hairbland on Dec 2, 2018 0:05:31 GMT 1, So the Grapling Hook is also not an Original Banksy sculpture? Or do you think he made all 25 (or something) of those ? The description says : "This coin operated sculpture was created by the graffiti artist Banksy". So it's attributed to Banksy. If he actually glued it together himslef is not really relevant. Maybe he did. Maybe he has help. Or had it made. It's still an Original Banksy. Dismaland was created by banksy. Does that mean every single thing there is a banksy original? What about that green and white blob in the background? Banksy original? I hope that's up for chairty next! Would look good on my backyard pond! I get it. He's hyping it to get the money. Good for him and the cause. It's the sad people believing this is a banksy original worth 100k that I'm criticising. Not banksy nor the chairity but I'm not shocked people can't comprehend that.
So the Grapling Hook is also not an Original Banksy sculpture? Or do you think he made all 25 (or something) of those ? The description says : "This coin operated sculpture was created by the graffiti artist Banksy". So it's attributed to Banksy. If he actually glued it together himslef is not really relevant. Maybe he did. Maybe he has help. Or had it made. It's still an Original Banksy. Dismaland was created by banksy. Does that mean every single thing there is a banksy original? What about that green and white blob in the background? Banksy original? I hope that's up for chairty next! Would look good on my backyard pond! I get it. He's hyping it to get the money. Good for him and the cause. It's the sad people believing this is a banksy original worth 100k that I'm criticising. Not banksy nor the chairity but I'm not shocked people can't comprehend that. |
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Banksy Raffle • Dismaland Refugee Boat, by Masong on Dec 2, 2018 0:06:57 GMT 1, Does every KFC secret recipe have to be made by the colonel? The colonel is a mascot for a company. Are you call banksy a mascot for a company of artists? Maybe you are right...
😂 you do make me laugh
Does every KFC secret recipe have to be made by the colonel? The colonel is a mascot for a company. Are you call banksy a mascot for a company of artists? Maybe you are right... 😂 you do make me laugh |
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Banksy Raffle • Dismaland Refugee Boat, by Express Post on Dec 2, 2018 0:13:35 GMT 1, Let me rephrase, challenge of accepting that an artist can conceive an idea but not physically make the piece and everyone, except you, including the artist considers it their work. They would even go so far as putting it in their catalogue raisonne if there ever was one and the craftsman or boat modeller wouldn't argue, except maybe yourself.
You'd be fun at a party.
You should start collecting sea shells or pet rocks instead of art. You wouldn't have to deal with any more of these problems. Where did I say it was a problem?
Let me rephrase, challenge of accepting that an artist can conceive an idea but not physically make the piece and everyone, except you, including the artist considers it their work. They would even go so far as putting it in their catalogue raisonne if there ever was one and the craftsman or boat modeller wouldn't argue, except maybe yourself. You'd be fun at a party. You should start collecting sea shells or pet rocks instead of art. You wouldn't have to deal with any more of these problems. Where did I say it was a problem? |
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Banksy Raffle • Dismaland Refugee Boat, by .dappy on Dec 2, 2018 0:15:37 GMT 1, You should start collecting sea shells or pet rocks instead of art. You wouldn't have to deal with any more of these problems. Where did I say it was a problem?
Sealioning (also spelled sea-lioning and sea lioning) is a type of trolling or harassment which consists of pursuing people with persistent requests for evidence or repeated questions, while maintaining a pretense of civility. ...
You should start collecting sea shells or pet rocks instead of art. You wouldn't have to deal with any more of these problems. Where did I say it was a problem? Sealioning (also spelled sea-lioning and sea lioning) is a type of trolling or harassment which consists of pursuing people with persistent requests for evidence or repeated questions, while maintaining a pretense of civility. ... |
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Banksy Raffle • Dismaland Refugee Boat, by Express Post on Dec 2, 2018 0:21:54 GMT 1, Oh no, I have been sea-lioned!
Where did I say it was a problem? Sealioning (also spelled sea-lioning and sea lioning) is a type of trolling or harassment which consists of pursuing people with persistent requests for evidence or repeated questions, while maintaining a pretense of civility. ...
Oh no, I have been sea-lioned! Where did I say it was a problem? Sealioning (also spelled sea-lioning and sea lioning) is a type of trolling or harassment which consists of pursuing people with persistent requests for evidence or repeated questions, while maintaining a pretense of civility. ... |
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Banksy Raffle • Dismaland Refugee Boat, by Masong on Dec 2, 2018 0:28:31 GMT 1, Oh no, I have been sea-lioned! Sealioning (also spelled sea-lioning and sea lioning) is a type of trolling or harassment which consists of pursuing people with persistent requests for evidence or repeated questions, while maintaining a pretense of civility. ...
On here it’s called being Murrked
Oh no, I have been sea-lioned! Sealioning (also spelled sea-lioning and sea lioning) is a type of trolling or harassment which consists of pursuing people with persistent requests for evidence or repeated questions, while maintaining a pretense of civility. ... On here it’s called being Murrked |
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Banksy Raffle • Dismaland Refugee Boat, by Rouen Cathedral on Dec 2, 2018 0:56:32 GMT 1, Let me rephrase, challenge of accepting that an artist can conceive an idea but not physically make the piece and everyone, except you, including the artist considers it their work. They would even go so far as putting it in their catalogue raisonne if there ever was one and the craftsman or boat modeller wouldn't argue, except maybe yourself. You'd be fun at a party. Where did I say it was a problem?
So then answer my question. Is everything at dismaland a 'banksy original'?
Let me rephrase, challenge of accepting that an artist can conceive an idea but not physically make the piece and everyone, except you, including the artist considers it their work. They would even go so far as putting it in their catalogue raisonne if there ever was one and the craftsman or boat modeller wouldn't argue, except maybe yourself. You'd be fun at a party. Where did I say it was a problem? So then answer my question. Is everything at dismaland a 'banksy original'? |
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Banksy Raffle • Dismaland Refugee Boat, by butterknife on Dec 2, 2018 1:00:57 GMT 1, Let me rephrase, challenge of accepting that an artist can conceive an idea but not physically make the piece and everyone, except you, including the artist considers it their work. They would even go so far as putting it in their catalogue raisonne if there ever was one and the craftsman or boat modeller wouldn't argue, except maybe yourself. You'd be fun at a party. So then answer my question. Is everything at dismaland a 'banksy original'?
Let me rephrase, challenge of accepting that an artist can conceive an idea but not physically make the piece and everyone, except you, including the artist considers it their work. They would even go so far as putting it in their catalogue raisonne if there ever was one and the craftsman or boat modeller wouldn't argue, except maybe yourself. You'd be fun at a party. So then answer my question. Is everything at dismaland a 'banksy original'? Depends on what the definition of "is" is. |
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Banksy Raffle • Dismaland Refugee Boat, by Express Post on Dec 2, 2018 1:16:11 GMT 1, Are you sea-lioning me?
Let me rephrase, challenge of accepting that an artist can conceive an idea but not physically make the piece and everyone, except you, including the artist considers it their work. They would even go so far as putting it in their catalogue raisonne if there ever was one and the craftsman or boat modeller wouldn't argue, except maybe yourself. You'd be fun at a party. So then answer my question. Is everything at dismaland a 'banksy original'?
Are you sea-lioning me? Let me rephrase, challenge of accepting that an artist can conceive an idea but not physically make the piece and everyone, except you, including the artist considers it their work. They would even go so far as putting it in their catalogue raisonne if there ever was one and the craftsman or boat modeller wouldn't argue, except maybe yourself. You'd be fun at a party. So then answer my question. Is everything at dismaland a 'banksy original'? |
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Banksy Raffle • Dismaland Refugee Boat, by Rouen Cathedral on Dec 2, 2018 1:17:27 GMT 1, Are you sea-lioning me? So then answer my question. Is everything at dismaland a 'banksy original'?
No it's an honest question.
If the boat is a banksy original I'm assuming you feel the same about the tower, the green and white blob?
Also what about those fishy fingers.
Easily all banksy originals right?
Are you sea-lioning me? So then answer my question. Is everything at dismaland a 'banksy original'? No it's an honest question. If the boat is a banksy original I'm assuming you feel the same about the tower, the green and white blob? Also what about those fishy fingers. Easily all banksy originals right? |
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Banksy Raffle • Dismaland Refugee Boat, by .dappy on Dec 2, 2018 1:24:40 GMT 1, No it's an honest question. If the boat is a banksy original I'm assuming you feel the same about the tower, the green and white blob? Also what about those fishy fingers. Easily all banksy originals right?
Sealioning (also spelled sea-lioning and sea lioning) is a type of trolling or harassment which consists of pursuing people with persistent requests for evidence or repeated questions, while maintaining a pretense of civility...
No it's an honest question. If the boat is a banksy original I'm assuming you feel the same about the tower, the green and white blob? Also what about those fishy fingers. Easily all banksy originals right? ... sea-lioning ... Sealioning (also spelled sea-lioning and sea lioning) is a type of trolling or harassment which consists of pursuing people with persistent requests for evidence or repeated questions, while maintaining a pretense of civility... |
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Banksy Raffle • Dismaland Refugee Boat, by Coach on Dec 2, 2018 1:41:36 GMT 1, No it's an honest question. If the boat is a banksy original I'm assuming you feel the same about the tower, the green and white blob? Also what about those fishy fingers. Easily all banksy originals right? ... sea-lioning ... Sealioning (also spelled sea-lioning and sea lioning) is a type of trolling or harassment which consists of pursuing people with persistent requests for evidence or repeated questions, while maintaining a pretense of civility...
Don’t feed the trolls.
Sadly I forgot myself earlier tonight.
No it's an honest question. If the boat is a banksy original I'm assuming you feel the same about the tower, the green and white blob? Also what about those fishy fingers. Easily all banksy originals right? ... sea-lioning ... Sealioning (also spelled sea-lioning and sea lioning) is a type of trolling or harassment which consists of pursuing people with persistent requests for evidence or repeated questions, while maintaining a pretense of civility... Don’t feed the trolls. Sadly I forgot myself earlier tonight. |
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Banksy Raffle • Dismaland Refugee Boat, by tab1 on Dec 2, 2018 1:43:53 GMT 1, After a brief read of the above , I have a banksy original then ? Woh boxset?!right?
After a brief read of the above , I have a banksy original then ? Woh boxset?!right?
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Banksy Raffle • Dismaland Refugee Boat, by rebate on Dec 2, 2018 1:52:29 GMT 1, No it's an honest question. If the boat is a banksy original I'm assuming you feel the same about the tower, the green and white blob? Also what about those fishy fingers. Easily all banksy originals right?
No it's an honest question. If the boat is a banksy original I'm assuming you feel the same about the tower, the green and white blob? Also what about those fishy fingers. Easily all banksy originals right? Hirst, Warhol, myriad of other artists that have people paint their works, Kaws massive statues etc etc etc. Most artists also dont make the screens or print their own prints. How far do you go, anything an assistant went to close to? |
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Banksy Raffle • Dismaland Refugee Boat, by Rouen Cathedral on Dec 2, 2018 2:17:03 GMT 1, No it's an honest question. If the boat is a banksy original I'm assuming you feel the same about the tower, the green and white blob? Also what about those fishy fingers. Easily all banksy originals right? Hirst, Warhol, myriad of other artists that have people paint their works, Kaws massive statues etc etc etc. Most artists also dont make the screens or print their own prints. How far do you go, anything an assistant went to close to?
I agree this is all right.
But when everyone visited and was driving the boat around not one person that was thought 'oh this is a banksy original scultpture'
But now that there is a chance they might receive it it's a 100k original banksy. Yeah okay.
No it's an honest question. If the boat is a banksy original I'm assuming you feel the same about the tower, the green and white blob? Also what about those fishy fingers. Easily all banksy originals right? Hirst, Warhol, myriad of other artists that have people paint their works, Kaws massive statues etc etc etc. Most artists also dont make the screens or print their own prints. How far do you go, anything an assistant went to close to? I agree this is all right. But when everyone visited and was driving the boat around not one person that was thought 'oh this is a banksy original scultpture' But now that there is a chance they might receive it it's a 100k original banksy. Yeah okay. |
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Banksy Raffle • Dismaland Refugee Boat, by butterknife on Dec 2, 2018 2:41:37 GMT 1, I think it would be nice if the winner sold the sculpture to benefit Choose Love. 100%
It would make for a lovely story.
I think it would be nice if the winner sold the sculpture to benefit Choose Love. 100%
It would make for a lovely story.
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Banksy Raffle • Dismaland Refugee Boat, by Masong on Dec 2, 2018 2:47:24 GMT 1, I think it would be nice if the winner sold the sculpture to benefit Choose Love. 100% It would make for a lovely story.
What if the winner was a refugee?
I think it would be nice if the winner sold the sculpture to benefit Choose Love. 100% It would make for a lovely story. What if the winner was a refugee? |
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Banksy Raffle • Dismaland Refugee Boat, by Spenie on Dec 2, 2018 2:52:25 GMT 1, £2.00 spent, I can't believe an Original Banksy sculpture is the prize, fingers crossed.
£2.00 spent, I can't believe an Original Banksy sculpture is the prize, fingers crossed.
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Banksy Raffle • Dismaland Refugee Boat, by butterknife on Dec 2, 2018 3:52:17 GMT 1, I think it would be nice if the winner sold the sculpture to benefit Choose Love. 100% It would make for a lovely story. What if the winner was a refugee?
I think it would be nice if the winner sold the sculpture to benefit Choose Love. 100% It would make for a lovely story. What if the winner was a refugee? What if indeed. |
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Banksy Raffle • Dismaland Refugee Boat, by Lroy on Dec 2, 2018 6:08:22 GMT 1, ... sea-lioning ... Sealioning (also spelled sea-lioning and sea lioning) is a type of trolling or harassment which consists of pursuing people with persistent requests for evidence or repeated questions, while maintaining a pretense of civility... Don’t feed the trolls. Sadly I forgot myself earlier tonight.
Yes.
This thread is so boring...
... sea-lioning ... Sealioning (also spelled sea-lioning and sea lioning) is a type of trolling or harassment which consists of pursuing people with persistent requests for evidence or repeated questions, while maintaining a pretense of civility... Don’t feed the trolls. Sadly I forgot myself earlier tonight. Yes. This thread is so boring... |
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Banksy Raffle • Dismaland Refugee Boat, by wappinghigh on Dec 2, 2018 6:46:13 GMT 1, its 2 quid for a good cause for goodness sake!
I entered.
Good luck all
Let's hope someone from the forum wins it!
W
its 2 quid for a good cause for goodness sake!
I entered.
Good luck all
Let's hope someone from the forum wins it!
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Banksy Raffle • Dismaland Refugee Boat, by GMA on Dec 2, 2018 9:02:30 GMT 1, I entered a few random guesses but have only had one confirmation email back. Anyone else received their confirmation emails? 
I entered a few random guesses but have only had one confirmation email back. Anyone else received their confirmation emails? |
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Banksy Raffle • Dismaland Refugee Boat, by lacklisted on Dec 2, 2018 9:06:34 GMT 1, First the Aegean then the Mediterranean, now the Channel. All power to the refugees and migrants for their ingenuity.
Great that Banksy is continuing his support and forum members have a reminder of the plight of others less fortunate than themselves.
Borders and walls are for crossing!.
First the Aegean then the Mediterranean, now the Channel. All power to the refugees and migrants for their ingenuity. Great that Banksy is continuing his support and forum members have a reminder of the plight of others less fortunate than themselves. Borders and walls are for crossing!. |
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