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poss scam involving Banksy print/Pest control, by withnail69 on Sept 19, 2019 14:26:23 GMT 1, Everything they are doing is to manipulate the public especially for example users of this forum NOT to sell to each other and to use their amazing new second hand service cause Banksy is obviously a bit short of cash. I'm disgusted with them and what they have become.. All the anti establishment rhetoric etc... That will be the angle of the article.. Myself a collector and supporter of Banksy/POW from day one with a history of over half a dozen purchases from them etc... I suppose they made a few mistakes In the past and taking control of the secondary market they can remove these mistakes. A few people in the past had duplicates and had sent back aps as asknowdlegement of pc: their mistakes so can be a bonus also. Inhouse produced backdoor prints are probably the biggest problem as if these were applied for coa first then the genuine print turns up with receipts and email trail , then alot of the early fakes are still out there and probably new ones not known about yet , as sums involved are so great and the prints are quite basic to forge they will at some point be reproduced fraudulently
Everything they are doing is to manipulate the public especially for example users of this forum NOT to sell to each other and to use their amazing new second hand service cause Banksy is obviously a bit short of cash. I'm disgusted with them and what they have become.. All the anti establishment rhetoric etc... That will be the angle of the article.. Myself a collector and supporter of Banksy/POW from day one with a history of over half a dozen purchases from them etc... I suppose they made a few mistakes In the past and taking control of the secondary market they can remove these mistakes. A few people in the past had duplicates and had sent back aps as asknowdlegement of pc: their mistakes so can be a bonus also. Inhouse produced backdoor prints are probably the biggest problem as if these were applied for coa first then the genuine print turns up with receipts and email trail , then alot of the early fakes are still out there and probably new ones not known about yet , as sums involved are so great and the prints are quite basic to forge they will at some point be reproduced fraudulently Yep very good points. |
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poss scam involving Banksy print/Pest control, by moron on Sept 22, 2019 18:44:09 GMT 1, So from what is online POW started selling in 2004 and then in 2008 or after Pest Control started registering owners. There is also their statement.
""Please be aware that because many Banksy pieces are created in an advanced state of intoxication the authentication process can be lengthy and challenging. Pest Control deals only with legitimate works of art and has no involvement with any kind of illegal activity."" pestcontroloffice.com/whatispco.html
So from what is online POW started selling in 2004 and then in 2008 or after Pest Control started registering owners. There is also their statement.
""Please be aware that because many Banksy pieces are created in an advanced state of intoxication the authentication process can be lengthy and challenging. Pest Control deals only with legitimate works of art and has no involvement with any kind of illegal activity."" pestcontroloffice.com/whatispco.html |
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poss scam involving Banksy print/Pest control, by withnail69 on Sept 23, 2019 11:50:49 GMT 1,
Here's a screenshot of the full article (obvs the journalist made a few minor mistakes)
Here's a screenshot of the full article (obvs the journalist made a few minor mistakes) |
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poss scam involving Banksy print/Pest control, by sfnyc on Sept 23, 2019 13:10:14 GMT 1, That story is more legit than a PC coa
That story is more legit than a PC coa
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poss scam involving Banksy print/Pest control, by Dive Jedi on Sept 23, 2019 13:28:43 GMT 1, That story is more legit than a PC coa
Aparantly his mom bought it herself as a gift....
That story is more legit than a PC coa Must be painfull for the beloved son that there is no mention of him giving the print to his father. Aparantly his mom bought it herself as a gift.... |
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poss scam involving Banksy print/Pest control, by tab1 on Sept 23, 2019 14:09:24 GMT 1, That story is more legit than a PC coa Must be painfull for the beloved son that there is no mention of him giving the print to his father. Aparantly his mom bought it herself as a gift....
That story is more legit than a PC coa Must be painfull for the beloved son that there is no mention of him giving the print to his father. Aparantly his mom bought it herself as a gift.... more sensational story , pc picking on pensioners...what a stressful time, lucky no underlying health issues or suffer from anxiety |
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poss scam involving Banksy print/Pest control, by withnail69 on Sept 23, 2019 14:25:19 GMT 1, That story is more legit than a PC coa Must be painfull for the beloved son that there is no mention of him giving the print to his father. Aparantly his mom bought it herself as a gift....
That story is more legit than a PC coa Must be painfull for the beloved son that there is no mention of him giving the print to his father. Aparantly his mom bought it herself as a gift.... Yeah thats the point to take out of all this. |
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poss scam involving Banksy print/Pest control, by withnail69 on Sept 23, 2019 14:27:40 GMT 1, Must be painfull for the beloved son that there is no mention of him giving the print to his father. Aparantly his mom bought it herself as a gift.... more sensational story , pc picking on pensioners...what a stressful time, lucky no underlying health issues or suffer from anxiety
Must be painfull for the beloved son that there is no mention of him giving the print to his father. Aparantly his mom bought it herself as a gift.... more sensational story , pc picking on pensioners...what a stressful time, lucky no underlying health issues or suffer from anxiety You should work at the Samaritans |
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poss scam involving Banksy print/Pest control, by withnail69 on Sept 23, 2019 14:37:25 GMT 1, Must be painfull for the beloved son that there is no mention of him giving the print to his father. Aparantly his mom bought it herself as a gift.... more sensational story , pc picking on pensioners...what a stressful time, lucky no underlying health issues or suffer from anxiety
Must be painfull for the beloved son that there is no mention of him giving the print to his father. Aparantly his mom bought it herself as a gift.... more sensational story , pc picking on pensioners...what a stressful time, lucky no underlying health issues or suffer from anxiety I feel like the article was more a dig at the police for accusing pensioners of theft but you can interpret it however you want and have a few goes at people with mental health issues as well while you're at it. |
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poss scam involving Banksy print/Pest control, by denzil on Sept 23, 2019 15:00:39 GMT 1, Text
He is the darling of the anti-establishment art scene and no arm of the state comes in for more of Banksy’s mockery than the police.
The artist depicts officers as thuggish and rude, yet last year, when his agents thought they had located a stolen numbered Banksy print, they immediately called Scotland Yard.
Pat Davis, 71, a retired teacher and amateur art collector, was subjected to an 18-month police investigation in which her home was raided, she was interviewed under criminal caution and warned she might be charged with handling stolen goods.
The case ended only when Mrs Davis produced pictures of the print, worth an estimated £35,000, hanging on her wall in Hampstead, north London, five years before it was reported stolen in Dulwich. Detectives have concluded that far from being an art thief, Mrs Davis may be the victim of poor record keeping by Banksy and his managers.
Mrs Davis’s story begins in 2004 when she successfully bid for a limited edition print of Banksy’s Barcode as a 60th birthday present for her husband, Geoff. Mrs Davis insists she bought the signed print — numbered 78 out of 150 — for about £300 from Banksy’s then dealer, Pictures On Walls. It was delivered to the school where she worked in January 2005 and was shown to the A-level art class.
In January last year the Davises considered selling the work to finance a retirement move to Devon and contacted the artist’s new sales agency, Pest Control, for a certificate of authentication.
Five months later Mrs Davis and the print were in Devon when she noticed 18 missed calls on her phone from a friend who had been helping to move the couple’s possessions. The man had been collecting some boxes from her London flat when police swooped and spent three hours searching for the print of Barcode which, they claimed, had been stolen in 2010.
Mrs Davis said: “My first ever run-in with the police was to find myself in the middle of an art theft inquiry over a piece that we had owned for 14 years.”
The investigating officer insisted that Mrs Davis return to London for a 90-minute interview and pursued further questions by email and phone. Police accessed Mrs Davis’s bank records and said that a file was being prepared for the Crown Prosecution Service.
The inquiry ended in July when Mrs Davis’s daughter-in-law produced the photographs from 2005 and the family registered a complaint about police conduct. The investigation found no evidence that the print was stolen and raised the possibility — which will alarm art buyers — that there are two Barcode prints with the number 78/150.
A Met spokeswoman said: “Despite extensive police inquiries neither party can prove outright ownership.”
Pest Control, which says that because “Banksy pieces are created in an advanced state of intoxication the authentication process can be challenging”, confirmed that it had instigated the police investigation.
Mr Davis, 74, said: “We purchased [the print] from Banksy’s agents. That’s where the focus should be — how come there’s two with the same print number and how many more might be out there?”
Text He is the darling of the anti-establishment art scene and no arm of the state comes in for more of Banksy’s mockery than the police. The artist depicts officers as thuggish and rude, yet last year, when his agents thought they had located a stolen numbered Banksy print, they immediately called Scotland Yard. Pat Davis, 71, a retired teacher and amateur art collector, was subjected to an 18-month police investigation in which her home was raided, she was interviewed under criminal caution and warned she might be charged with handling stolen goods. The case ended only when Mrs Davis produced pictures of the print, worth an estimated £35,000, hanging on her wall in Hampstead, north London, five years before it was reported stolen in Dulwich. Detectives have concluded that far from being an art thief, Mrs Davis may be the victim of poor record keeping by Banksy and his managers. Mrs Davis’s story begins in 2004 when she successfully bid for a limited edition print of Banksy’s Barcode as a 60th birthday present for her husband, Geoff. Mrs Davis insists she bought the signed print — numbered 78 out of 150 — for about £300 from Banksy’s then dealer, Pictures On Walls. It was delivered to the school where she worked in January 2005 and was shown to the A-level art class. In January last year the Davises considered selling the work to finance a retirement move to Devon and contacted the artist’s new sales agency, Pest Control, for a certificate of authentication. Five months later Mrs Davis and the print were in Devon when she noticed 18 missed calls on her phone from a friend who had been helping to move the couple’s possessions. The man had been collecting some boxes from her London flat when police swooped and spent three hours searching for the print of Barcode which, they claimed, had been stolen in 2010. Mrs Davis said: “My first ever run-in with the police was to find myself in the middle of an art theft inquiry over a piece that we had owned for 14 years.” The investigating officer insisted that Mrs Davis return to London for a 90-minute interview and pursued further questions by email and phone. Police accessed Mrs Davis’s bank records and said that a file was being prepared for the Crown Prosecution Service. The inquiry ended in July when Mrs Davis’s daughter-in-law produced the photographs from 2005 and the family registered a complaint about police conduct. The investigation found no evidence that the print was stolen and raised the possibility — which will alarm art buyers — that there are two Barcode prints with the number 78/150. A Met spokeswoman said: “Despite extensive police inquiries neither party can prove outright ownership.” Pest Control, which says that because “Banksy pieces are created in an advanced state of intoxication the authentication process can be challenging”, confirmed that it had instigated the police investigation. Mr Davis, 74, said: “We purchased [the print] from Banksy’s agents. That’s where the focus should be — how come there’s two with the same print number and how many more might be out there?” |
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poss scam involving Banksy print/Pest control, by Dive Jedi on Sept 23, 2019 16:07:22 GMT 1, Must be painfull for the beloved son that there is no mention of him giving the print to his father. Aparantly his mom bought it herself as a gift.... Yeah thats the point to take out of all this.
You started this thread with : Please be 100% assured that everything I am about to say is 100% the truth...
Must be painfull for the beloved son that there is no mention of him giving the print to his father. Aparantly his mom bought it herself as a gift.... Yeah thats the point to take out of all this. Well, I was trying to be tactfull.. You started this thread with : Please be 100% assured that everything I am about to say is 100% the truth... |
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poss scam involving Banksy print/Pest control, by withnail69 on Sept 23, 2019 16:39:03 GMT 1, Yeah thats the point to take out of all this. Well, I was trying to be tactfull.. You started this thread with : Please be 100% assured that everything I am about to say is 100% the truth... There you go.. Job for you with the police.. I can be the UAA careers adviser. You can milk the case for 18 months like they did. Thats pretty irrelevant now and I'm bored of explaining myself over and over for people who can't be arsed to read the whole thread.. All that matters now.. We bought a print from POW in 2005 they now won't say whether it's genuine or not.. Hope that makes it easier for you.
Yeah thats the point to take out of all this. Well, I was trying to be tactfull.. You started this thread with : Please be 100% assured that everything I am about to say is 100% the truth... There you go.. Job for you with the police.. I can be the UAA careers adviser. You can milk the case for 18 months like they did. Thats pretty irrelevant now and I'm bored of explaining myself over and over for people who can't be arsed to read the whole thread.. All that matters now.. We bought a print from POW in 2005 they now won't say whether it's genuine or not.. Hope that makes it easier for you. |
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poss scam involving Banksy print/Pest control, by tab1 on Sept 23, 2019 19:40:58 GMT 1, more sensational story , pc picking on pensioners...what a stressful time, lucky no underlying health issues or suffer from anxiety You should work at the Samaritans
bigger picture , there are people that try to swindle and deceive and pc balance the facts on what evidence is presented to them , we the forum can not really form an opinion on words alone as no one has access to the evidence put forward and the story has changed from here to the news paper article , I am sure as a business they will follow this through
more sensational story , pc picking on pensioners...what a stressful time, lucky no underlying health issues or suffer from anxiety You should work at the Samaritans Lack empathy , egocentric person you seem, hope you get your coa , well deserved,shows they are doing their job and not just collecting coa fees! bigger picture , there are people that try to swindle and deceive and pc balance the facts on what evidence is presented to them , we the forum can not really form an opinion on words alone as no one has access to the evidence put forward and the story has changed from here to the news paper article , I am sure as a business they will follow this through |
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poss scam involving Banksy print/Pest control, by withnail69 on Sept 24, 2019 10:44:48 GMT 1, You should work at the Samaritans Lack empathy , egocentric person you seem, hope you get your coa , well deserved,shows they are doing their job and not just collecting coa fees! bigger picture , there are people that try to swindle and deceive and pc balance the facts on what evidence is presented to them , we the forum can not really form an opinion on words alone as no one has access to the evidence put forward and the story has changed from here to the news paper article , I am sure as a business they will follow this through
You should work at the Samaritans Lack empathy , egocentric person you seem, hope you get your coa , well deserved,shows they are doing their job and not just collecting coa fees! bigger picture , there are people that try to swindle and deceive and pc balance the facts on what evidence is presented to them , we the forum can not really form an opinion on words alone as no one has access to the evidence put forward and the story has changed from here to the news paper article , I am sure as a business they will follow this through Would you like the original 2005 photos with metadata embedded to confirm we were in possession in 2005? |
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poss scam involving Banksy print/Pest control, by tab1 on Sept 24, 2019 14:39:40 GMT 1, Lack empathy , egocentric person you seem, hope you get your coa , well deserved,shows they are doing their job and not just collecting coa fees! bigger picture , there are people that try to swindle and deceive and pc balance the facts on what evidence is presented to them , we the forum can not really form an opinion on words alone as no one has access to the evidence put forward and the story has changed from here to the news paper article , I am sure as a business they will follow this through Would you like the original 2005 photos with metadata embedded to confirm we were in possession in 2005?
as the case is still ongoing would it not be in your interest to release all the details after the final conclusions ?
may slow down the process with pc if they decide to be awkward after negative press in gaining your coa
Lack empathy , egocentric person you seem, hope you get your coa , well deserved,shows they are doing their job and not just collecting coa fees! bigger picture , there are people that try to swindle and deceive and pc balance the facts on what evidence is presented to them , we the forum can not really form an opinion on words alone as no one has access to the evidence put forward and the story has changed from here to the news paper article , I am sure as a business they will follow this through Would you like the original 2005 photos with metadata embedded to confirm we were in possession in 2005? Full bank details and birthdate should suffice as the case is still ongoing would it not be in your interest to release all the details after the final conclusions ? may slow down the process with pc if they decide to be awkward after negative press in gaining your coa |
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poss scam involving Banksy print/Pest control, by dogstar on Sept 24, 2019 14:52:11 GMT 1, Lack empathy , egocentric person you seem, hope you get your coa , well deserved,shows they are doing their job and not just collecting coa fees! bigger picture , there are people that try to swindle and deceive and pc balance the facts on what evidence is presented to them , we the forum can not really form an opinion on words alone as no one has access to the evidence put forward and the story has changed from here to the news paper article , I am sure as a business they will follow this through Would you like the original 2005 photos with metadata embedded to confirm we were in possession in 2005?
I'm not suggesting you've done so, but metadata can easily be edited and altered.
Lack empathy , egocentric person you seem, hope you get your coa , well deserved,shows they are doing their job and not just collecting coa fees! bigger picture , there are people that try to swindle and deceive and pc balance the facts on what evidence is presented to them , we the forum can not really form an opinion on words alone as no one has access to the evidence put forward and the story has changed from here to the news paper article , I am sure as a business they will follow this through Would you like the original 2005 photos with metadata embedded to confirm we were in possession in 2005?
I'm not suggesting you've done so, but metadata can easily be edited and altered. |
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poss scam involving Banksy print/Pest control, by withnail69 on Sept 24, 2019 17:23:39 GMT 1, Sometimes I feel like I've stumbled into a 4chan incel forum
Sometimes I feel like I've stumbled into a 4chan incel forum
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poss scam involving Banksy print/Pest control, by withnail69 on Sept 24, 2019 17:26:16 GMT 1, Would you like the original 2005 photos with metadata embedded to confirm we were in possession in 2005? Full bank details and birthdate should suffice as the case is still ongoing would it not be in your interest to release all the details after the final conclusions ? may slow down the process with pc if they decide to be awkward after negative press in gaining your coa
Would you like the original 2005 photos with metadata embedded to confirm we were in possession in 2005? Full bank details and birthdate should suffice as the case is still ongoing would it not be in your interest to release all the details after the final conclusions ? may slow down the process with pc if they decide to be awkward after negative press in gaining your coa Case isn't ongoing its closed.. There is no evidence and why would there be? Just 18 months of wasting tax payers money... I thought you said you'd read the article? |
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poss scam involving Banksy print/Pest control, by withnail69 on Sept 24, 2019 17:28:40 GMT 1, Would you like the original 2005 photos with metadata embedded to confirm we were in possession in 2005? Full bank details and birthdate should suffice as the case is still ongoing would it not be in your interest to release all the details after the final conclusions ? may slow down the process with pc if they decide to be awkward after negative press in gaining your coa
Would you like the original 2005 photos with metadata embedded to confirm we were in possession in 2005? Full bank details and birthdate should suffice as the case is still ongoing would it not be in your interest to release all the details after the final conclusions ? may slow down the process with pc if they decide to be awkward after negative press in gaining your coa There is no process with PC they aren't engaging. Because they can't explain why they won't authenticate a print sent by POW in 2005. |
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poss scam involving Banksy print/Pest control, by iamzero on Sept 24, 2019 17:33:43 GMT 1, Is Pest Control still refusing to issue a COA? I’m guessing it’s their right to not issue no matter what the circumstances.
Is Pest Control still refusing to issue a COA? I’m guessing it’s their right to not issue no matter what the circumstances.
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poss scam involving Banksy print/Pest control, by moron on Sept 24, 2019 18:58:48 GMT 1, That story is more legit than a PC coa Must be painfull for the beloved son that there is no mention of him giving the print to his father. Aparantly his mom bought it herself as a gift....
That story is more legit than a PC coa Must be painfull for the beloved son that there is no mention of him giving the print to his father. Aparantly his mom bought it herself as a gift.... I take it that you have never met a journalist. They write what they want regardless of everything that is presented to them in an interview. |
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poss scam involving Banksy print/Pest control, by tab1 on Sept 24, 2019 18:59:14 GMT 1, Full bank details and birthdate should suffice as the case is still ongoing would it not be in your interest to release all the details after the final conclusions ? may slow down the process with pc if they decide to be awkward after negative press in gaining your coa Case isn't ongoing its closed.. There is no evidence and why would there be? Just 18 months of wasting tax payers money... I thought you said you'd read the article?
I presumed you were taking o small claims court
Full bank details and birthdate should suffice as the case is still ongoing would it not be in your interest to release all the details after the final conclusions ? may slow down the process with pc if they decide to be awkward after negative press in gaining your coa Case isn't ongoing its closed.. There is no evidence and why would there be? Just 18 months of wasting tax payers money... I thought you said you'd read the article? I presumed you were taking o small claims court |
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poss scam involving Banksy print/Pest control, by moron on Sept 24, 2019 19:03:12 GMT 1, Is Pest Control still refusing to issue a COA? I’m guessing it’s their right to not issue no matter what the circumstances.
The big drawback for Pest Control is that POW were selling these prints to people far and wide, years before Pest Control was set up to register owners
Is Pest Control still refusing to issue a COA? I’m guessing it’s their right to not issue no matter what the circumstances. Pest Control has allready confirmed the prints authenticity by contacting the police. What PC are probably doing is refusing to change the ownership name on their database or file or beermat. The big drawback for Pest Control is that POW were selling these prints to people far and wide, years before Pest Control was set up to register owners |
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poss scam involving Banksy print/Pest control, by withnail69 on Sept 24, 2019 21:33:59 GMT 1, Is Pest Control still refusing to issue a COA? I’m guessing it’s their right to not issue no matter what the circumstances.
It’s their right to do pretty much whatever they want. I just want an explanation and if someone at pow printed it unauthorised then I’d like them to admit it
Is Pest Control still refusing to issue a COA? I’m guessing it’s their right to not issue no matter what the circumstances. It’s their right to do pretty much whatever they want. I just want an explanation and if someone at pow printed it unauthorised then I’d like them to admit it |
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poss scam involving Banksy print/Pest control, by withnail69 on Sept 24, 2019 21:35:02 GMT 1, Case isn't ongoing its closed.. There is no evidence and why would there be? Just 18 months of wasting tax payers money... I thought you said you'd read the article? I presumed you were taking o small claims court
Ah maybe. Waiting to hear
Case isn't ongoing its closed.. There is no evidence and why would there be? Just 18 months of wasting tax payers money... I thought you said you'd read the article? I presumed you were taking o small claims court Ah maybe. Waiting to hear |
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poss scam involving Banksy print/Pest control, by withnail69 on Sept 24, 2019 21:36:06 GMT 1, Is Pest Control still refusing to issue a COA? I’m guessing it’s their right to not issue no matter what the circumstances. Pest Control has allready confirmed the prints authenticity by contacting the police. What PC are probably doing is refusing to change the ownership name on their database or file or beermat. The big drawback for Pest Control is that POW were selling these prints to people far and wide, years before Pest Control was set up to register owners
Amen brother!
Is Pest Control still refusing to issue a COA? I’m guessing it’s their right to not issue no matter what the circumstances. Pest Control has allready confirmed the prints authenticity by contacting the police. What PC are probably doing is refusing to change the ownership name on their database or file or beermat. The big drawback for Pest Control is that POW were selling these prints to people far and wide, years before Pest Control was set up to register owners Amen brother! |
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poss scam involving Banksy print/Pest control, by .dappy on Sept 24, 2019 22:07:52 GMT 1, ... so all they have to do is request one of the two back and mark it D/N (duplicate number) and issue the PC COA to that effect ... they've done it a few times before ....
... so all they have to do is request one of the two back and mark it D/N (duplicate number) and issue the PC COA to that effect ... they've done it a few times before ....
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