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poss scam involving Banksy print/Pest control, by 1970hopper on Aug 28, 2019 22:38:39 GMT 1, Says the guy trying to flog a fake GWRB on ebay Is it??? I was waiting for the email that you can forward in just -0 seconds. Show me that’s it’s fake! And I didn’t sell anything and I did delete it. So no damage for anyone right. And if it’s a fake one. I will never post that work again!  Nowhere to hide on here
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Says the guy trying to flog a fake GWRB on ebay Is it??? I was waiting for the email that you can forward in just -0 seconds. Show me that’s it’s fake! And I didn’t sell anything and I did delete it. So no damage for anyone right. And if it’s a fake one. I will never post that work again! Nowhere to hide on here urbanartassociation.com/thread/158708/coa-details |
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poss scam involving Banksy print/Pest control, by Pipes on Aug 28, 2019 22:44:29 GMT 1, Out of interest.. How many forum members have applied for COA's and never received a reply?
Out of interest.. How many forum members have applied for COA's and never received a reply? |
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poss scam involving Banksy print/Pest control, by sgolby on Aug 28, 2019 22:58:01 GMT 1, @withnail thank you for taking the time to clarify.
@withnail thank you for taking the time to clarify.
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poss scam involving Banksy print/Pest control, by sfnyc on Aug 29, 2019 0:39:01 GMT 1, Please sue Pest Control, happy to donate to that end since they ve become as shady as any big art institution
Please sue Pest Control, happy to donate to that end since they ve become as shady as any big art institution
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poss scam involving Banksy print/Pest control, by tab1 on Aug 29, 2019 5:34:46 GMT 1, This story is going in a national newspaper in the next few weeks as pest control are still refusing to engage. I will post a link when it goes to press. Thanks to all of you who have offered advice through this thread and PM's throughout.
This will have a negative knock on effect to the print market
This story is going in a national newspaper in the next few weeks as pest control are still refusing to engage. I will post a link when it goes to press. Thanks to all of you who have offered advice through this thread and PM's throughout. This will have a negative knock on effect to the print market |
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poss scam involving Banksy print/Pest control, by tab1 on Aug 29, 2019 5:42:33 GMT 1, Depending on what the article includes
Bringing up the forgers from the past , the duplicates that were produced , backdoor prints etc , the lack of record keeping if the op account is correct and any other accounts that many are unaware of would definately put people off spending £10k-£60k on a print
Depending on what the article includes
Bringing up the forgers from the past , the duplicates that were produced , backdoor prints etc , the lack of record keeping if the op account is correct and any other accounts that many are unaware of would definately put people off spending £10k-£60k on a print
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poss scam involving Banksy print/Pest control, by withnail69 on Aug 29, 2019 10:33:06 GMT 1, Please sue Pest Control, happy to donate to that end since they ve become as shady as any big art institution
Please sue Pest Control, happy to donate to that end since they ve become as shady as any big art institution There terrifying PM's I'm receiving would lead me to believe you. People are too scared to even mention things on this forum that they are going through |
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poss scam involving Banksy print/Pest control, by withnail69 on Aug 29, 2019 10:39:10 GMT 1, Depending on what the article includes Bringing up the forgers from the past , the duplicates that were produced , backdoor prints etc , the lack of record keeping if the op account is correct and any other accounts that many are unaware of would definately put people off spending £10k-£60k on a print
Depending on what the article includes Bringing up the forgers from the past , the duplicates that were produced , backdoor prints etc , the lack of record keeping if the op account is correct and any other accounts that many are unaware of would definately put people off spending £10k-£60k on a print If you're selling anything of that value and not going through a reputable auction house you'd be crazy anyway.. Auction house check authenticity.. If I'd listened to all the people telling me the market was gonna drop out I would have lost £££££££££ |
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poss scam involving Banksy print/Pest control, by Graham H on Aug 29, 2019 12:39:54 GMT 1, I dont agree that people selling works to that value need to go ONLY through a reputable auction house.
Thats an extremely sweeping statement that dismisses the reputations of many very professional galleries and private individuals.
Just as an aside, most of the ' reputable auction houses ' have been caught selling un verified / uncertified / forged pieces from many artists in the past...
Its always a case of Buyer Beware but to say only use auction houses is a bit silly really
Depending on what the article includes Bringing up the forgers from the past , the duplicates that were produced , backdoor prints etc , the lack of record keeping if the op account is correct and any other accounts that many are unaware of would definately put people off spending £10k-£60k on a print If you're selling anything of that value and not going through a reputable auction house you'd be crazy anyway.. Auction house check authenticity.. If I'd listened to all the people telling me the market was gonna drop out I would have lost £££££££££
I dont agree that people selling works to that value need to go ONLY through a reputable auction house. Thats an extremely sweeping statement that dismisses the reputations of many very professional galleries and private individuals. Just as an aside, most of the ' reputable auction houses ' have been caught selling un verified / uncertified / forged pieces from many artists in the past... Its always a case of Buyer Beware but to say only use auction houses is a bit silly really Depending on what the article includes Bringing up the forgers from the past , the duplicates that were produced , backdoor prints etc , the lack of record keeping if the op account is correct and any other accounts that many are unaware of would definately put people off spending £10k-£60k on a print If you're selling anything of that value and not going through a reputable auction house you'd be crazy anyway.. Auction house check authenticity.. If I'd listened to all the people telling me the market was gonna drop out I would have lost £££££££££ |
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poss scam involving Banksy print/Pest control, by withnail69 on Aug 29, 2019 12:47:09 GMT 1, Just as an aside, most of the ' reputable auction houses ' have been caught selling un verified / uncertified / forged pieces from many artists in the past...
Just as an aside, most of the ' reputable auction houses ' have been caught selling un verified / uncertified / forged pieces from many artists in the past... So have galleries and individuals. All the auction houses I've dealt with have been very professional and have better contacts for resolving problems etc. The forum members here love contradicting each other anyway so whatever... |
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poss scam involving Banksy print/Pest control, by Graham H on Aug 29, 2019 13:16:24 GMT 1, Im not quite sure what you mean.. are you implying im contradicting you?.. Its a forum for debate, which inevitably will give differing thoughts and contradictions.. cant quite see the point you are making..
I was simply saying I didnt agree and that you made a sweeping generalisation..in my opinion.
Ive no real motive for saying what i said, im a private collector, not a gallery or auction employee, have bought and sold through auctions, private and galleries, and was giving comment on my experience.. as a balance.
'So have galleries and individuals.' .. two wrongs dont make a right
Just as an aside, most of the ' reputable auction houses ' have been caught selling un verified / uncertified / forged pieces from many artists in the past... So have galleries and individuals. All the auction houses I've dealt with have been very professional and have better contacts for resolving problems etc. The forum members here love contradicting each other anyway so whatever...
Im not quite sure what you mean.. are you implying im contradicting you?.. Its a forum for debate, which inevitably will give differing thoughts and contradictions.. cant quite see the point you are making.. I was simply saying I didnt agree and that you made a sweeping generalisation..in my opinion. Ive no real motive for saying what i said, im a private collector, not a gallery or auction employee, have bought and sold through auctions, private and galleries, and was giving comment on my experience.. as a balance. 'So have galleries and individuals.' .. two wrongs dont make a right Just as an aside, most of the ' reputable auction houses ' have been caught selling un verified / uncertified / forged pieces from many artists in the past... So have galleries and individuals. All the auction houses I've dealt with have been very professional and have better contacts for resolving problems etc. The forum members here love contradicting each other anyway so whatever... |
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poss scam involving Banksy print/Pest control, by tab1 on Aug 29, 2019 13:38:09 GMT 1, Depending on what the article includes Bringing up the forgers from the past , the duplicates that were produced , backdoor prints etc , the lack of record keeping if the op account is correct and any other accounts that many are unaware of would definately put people off spending £10k-£60k on a print If you're selling anything of that value and not going through a reputable auction house you'd be crazy anyway.. Auction house check authenticity.. If I'd listened to all the people telling me the market was gonna drop out I would have lost £££££££££
or like quicker transactions than using a 3rd party.
auction houses and galleries have been known to make mistakes too
Depending on what the article includes Bringing up the forgers from the past , the duplicates that were produced , backdoor prints etc , the lack of record keeping if the op account is correct and any other accounts that many are unaware of would definately put people off spending £10k-£60k on a print If you're selling anything of that value and not going through a reputable auction house you'd be crazy anyway.. Auction house check authenticity.. If I'd listened to all the people telling me the market was gonna drop out I would have lost £££££££££ Why do many people sell 20k + prints on this forum? People like to profit as much as possible,quoting gallery prices but not paying the fees. or like quicker transactions than using a 3rd party. auction houses and galleries have been known to make mistakes too |
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poss scam involving Banksy print/Pest control, by tab1 on Aug 29, 2019 13:40:07 GMT 1, If you're selling anything of that value and not going through a reputable auction house you'd be crazy anyway.. Auction house check authenticity.. If I'd listened to all the people telling me the market was gonna drop out I would have lost £££££££££ Why do many people sell 20k + prints on this forum? People like to profit as much as possible,quoting gallery prices but not paying the fees. or like quicker transactions than using a 3rd party. auction houses and galleries have been known to make mistakes too
If you're selling anything of that value and not going through a reputable auction house you'd be crazy anyway.. Auction house check authenticity.. If I'd listened to all the people telling me the market was gonna drop out I would have lost £££££££££ Why do many people sell 20k + prints on this forum? People like to profit as much as possible,quoting gallery prices but not paying the fees. or like quicker transactions than using a 3rd party. auction houses and galleries have been known to make mistakes too |
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poss scam involving Banksy print/Pest control, by withnail69 on Aug 29, 2019 14:07:46 GMT 1, If you're selling anything of that value and not going through a reputable auction house you'd be crazy anyway.. Auction house check authenticity.. If I'd listened to all the people telling me the market was gonna drop out I would have lost £££££££££ Why do many people sell 20k + prints on this forum? People like to profit as much as possible,quoting gallery prices but not paying the fees. or like quicker transactions than using a 3rd party. auction houses and galleries have been known to make mistakes too
If you're selling anything of that value and not going through a reputable auction house you'd be crazy anyway.. Auction house check authenticity.. If I'd listened to all the people telling me the market was gonna drop out I would have lost £££££££££ Why do many people sell 20k + prints on this forum? People like to profit as much as possible,quoting gallery prices but not paying the fees. or like quicker transactions than using a 3rd party. auction houses and galleries have been known to make mistakes too Most users I've encountered on here are just trolls. I can't imagine many have £1000 let alone £20000 to spend on art. |
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poss scam involving Banksy print/Pest control, by Dive Jedi on Aug 29, 2019 14:59:39 GMT 1, Why do many people sell 20k + prints on this forum? People like to profit as much as possible,quoting gallery prices but not paying the fees. or like quicker transactions than using a 3rd party. auction houses and galleries have been known to make mistakes too Most users I've encountered on here are just trolls. I can't imagine many have £1000 let alone £20000 to spend on art.
Why do many people sell 20k + prints on this forum? People like to profit as much as possible,quoting gallery prices but not paying the fees. or like quicker transactions than using a 3rd party. auction houses and galleries have been known to make mistakes too Most users I've encountered on here are just trolls. I can't imagine many have £1000 let alone £20000 to spend on art. You might be in for a surprise then…. |
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poss scam involving Banksy print/Pest control, by Deleted on Aug 29, 2019 15:06:19 GMT 1, Why do many people sell 20k + prints on this forum? People like to profit as much as possible,quoting gallery prices but not paying the fees. or like quicker transactions than using a 3rd party. auction houses and galleries have been known to make mistakes too Most users I've encountered on here are just trolls. I can't imagine many have £1000 let alone £20000 to spend on art.
Fortunately though, most are not nobs, like You!
Why do many people sell 20k + prints on this forum? People like to profit as much as possible,quoting gallery prices but not paying the fees. or like quicker transactions than using a 3rd party. auction houses and galleries have been known to make mistakes too Most users I've encountered on here are just trolls. I can't imagine many have £1000 let alone £20000 to spend on art. Fortunately though, most are not nobs, like You! |
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poss scam involving Banksy print/Pest control, by sgolby on Aug 29, 2019 15:34:44 GMT 1, Why do many people sell 20k + prints on this forum? People like to profit as much as possible,quoting gallery prices but not paying the fees. or like quicker transactions than using a 3rd party. auction houses and galleries have been known to make mistakes too Most users I've encountered on here are just trolls. I can't imagine many have £1000 let alone £20000 to spend on art.
You are doing a great job at currying favor, mate. I am sure everyone here wants to help, and/or do business with a 1* member who is very good at insulting those who appreciate this forum.
Why do many people sell 20k + prints on this forum? People like to profit as much as possible,quoting gallery prices but not paying the fees. or like quicker transactions than using a 3rd party. auction houses and galleries have been known to make mistakes too Most users I've encountered on here are just trolls. I can't imagine many have £1000 let alone £20000 to spend on art. You are doing a great job at currying favor, mate. I am sure everyone here wants to help, and/or do business with a 1* member who is very good at insulting those who appreciate this forum. |
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poss scam involving Banksy print/Pest control, by tab1 on Aug 29, 2019 15:41:56 GMT 1, Hope pc puts out a statement for damage limitation , with all this getting muddled and unproven statments taken as proven facts can quite easily ruin their business model and trust.
With so many prints still not having a coa applied for and the vast amount of forgeries still unaccounted for and probably new duplicates out there as lucrative for the unscrupulous .
The prints now seen as investment pieces and can be liquidated for cash almost immediately but with this type of scenario prints can be held whilst investigations continue (over a year ) and if you have lost statements , paper trail etc your investment potentially could be confiscated ?!
Hope pc puts out a statement for damage limitation , with all this getting muddled and unproven statments taken as proven facts can quite easily ruin their business model and trust.
With so many prints still not having a coa applied for and the vast amount of forgeries still unaccounted for and probably new duplicates out there as lucrative for the unscrupulous .
The prints now seen as investment pieces and can be liquidated for cash almost immediately but with this type of scenario prints can be held whilst investigations continue (over a year ) and if you have lost statements , paper trail etc your investment potentially could be confiscated ?!
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poss scam involving Banksy print/Pest control, by withnail69 on Aug 29, 2019 15:47:29 GMT 1, Most users I've encountered on here are just trolls. I can't imagine many have £1000 let alone £20000 to spend on art. Fortunately though, most are not nobs, like You!
Most users I've encountered on here are just trolls. I can't imagine many have £1000 let alone £20000 to spend on art. Fortunately though, most are not nobs, like You! Scroll back through this thread when you have time... See the replies to me |
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poss scam involving Banksy print/Pest control, by withnail69 on Aug 29, 2019 15:53:10 GMT 1, Most users I've encountered on here are just trolls. I can't imagine many have £1000 let alone £20000 to spend on art. You are doing a great job at currying favor, mate. I am sure everyone here wants to help, and/or do business with a 1* member who is very good at insulting those who appreciate this forum.
Its not just this forum its most of them and no before you leap to say its you then. I'm taking about the way other newbies to this forum are leapt on and criticized. I've seen it a lot. Please bear it in mind when scrolling through the threads and you see peoples aggressive replies to fairly innocent enquiries.. Everything is accused of being 'fake' which is co-incidentally what youtube trolls type in in comments.
Most users I've encountered on here are just trolls. I can't imagine many have £1000 let alone £20000 to spend on art. You are doing a great job at currying favor, mate. I am sure everyone here wants to help, and/or do business with a 1* member who is very good at insulting those who appreciate this forum. 10% have been helpful 90% have been borderline abusive and now it seems actually abusive. Its not just this forum its most of them and no before you leap to say its you then. I'm taking about the way other newbies to this forum are leapt on and criticized. I've seen it a lot. Please bear it in mind when scrolling through the threads and you see peoples aggressive replies to fairly innocent enquiries.. Everything is accused of being 'fake' which is co-incidentally what youtube trolls type in in comments. |
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poss scam involving Banksy print/Pest control, by irl1 on Aug 29, 2019 16:00:11 GMT 1, Thanks for posting great read even better result.
Thanks for posting great read even better result. |
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poss scam involving Banksy print/Pest control, by withnail69 on Aug 29, 2019 16:04:11 GMT 1, Hope pc puts out a statement for damage limitation , with all this getting muddled and unproven statments taken as proven facts can quite easily ruin their business model and trust. With so many prints still not having a coa applied for and the vast amount of forgeries still unaccounted for and probably new duplicates out there as lucrative for the unscrupulous . The prints now seen as investment pieces and can be liquidated for cash almost immediately but with this type of scenario prints can be held whilst investigations continue (over a year ) and if you have lost statements , paper trail etc your investment potentially could be confiscated ?!
Hope pc puts out a statement for damage limitation , with all this getting muddled and unproven statments taken as proven facts can quite easily ruin their business model and trust. With so many prints still not having a coa applied for and the vast amount of forgeries still unaccounted for and probably new duplicates out there as lucrative for the unscrupulous . The prints now seen as investment pieces and can be liquidated for cash almost immediately but with this type of scenario prints can be held whilst investigations continue (over a year ) and if you have lost statements , paper trail etc your investment potentially could be confiscated ?! Sorry I don't understand can you elaborate? |
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poss scam involving Banksy print/Pest control, by withnail69 on Aug 29, 2019 16:07:47 GMT 1, If you're selling anything of that value and not going through a reputable auction house you'd be crazy anyway.. Auction house check authenticity.. If I'd listened to all the people telling me the market was gonna drop out I would have lost £££££££££ Why do many people sell 20k + prints on this forum? People like to profit as much as possible,quoting gallery prices but not paying the fees. or like quicker transactions than using a 3rd party. auction houses and galleries have been known to make mistakes too
If you're selling anything of that value and not going through a reputable auction house you'd be crazy anyway.. Auction house check authenticity.. If I'd listened to all the people telling me the market was gonna drop out I would have lost £££££££££ Why do many people sell 20k + prints on this forum? People like to profit as much as possible,quoting gallery prices but not paying the fees. or like quicker transactions than using a 3rd party. auction houses and galleries have been known to make mistakes too OK. Can you explain how successful sales via the forum went and how the possibilities of getting ripped off are eliminated? how was payment and art exchanged? |
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poss scam involving Banksy print/Pest control, by withnail69 on Aug 29, 2019 16:09:32 GMT 1, but with this type of scenario prints can be held whilst investigations continue (over a year ) and if you have lost statements , paper trail etc your investment potentially could be confiscated ?!
but with this type of scenario prints can be held whilst investigations continue (over a year ) and if you have lost statements , paper trail etc your investment potentially could be confiscated ?! Isn't this describing exactly what happened to me? |
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poss scam involving Banksy print/Pest control, by withnail69 on Aug 29, 2019 16:10:22 GMT 1, Most users I've encountered on here are just trolls. I can't imagine many have £1000 let alone £20000 to spend on art. Fortunately though, most are not nobs, like You!
Most users I've encountered on here are just trolls. I can't imagine many have £1000 let alone £20000 to spend on art. Fortunately though, most are not nobs, like You! What you think of me is none of my business. |
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poss scam involving Banksy print/Pest control, by tab1 on Aug 29, 2019 17:55:59 GMT 1, Why do many people sell 20k + prints on this forum? People like to profit as much as possible,quoting gallery prices but not paying the fees. or like quicker transactions than using a 3rd party. auction houses and galleries have been known to make mistakes too OK. Can you explain how successful sales via the forum went and how the possibilities of getting ripped off are eliminated? how was payment and art exchanged?[/quoted ] When you have time on your hands there are plenty of successful completion ed transactions documented over the years on old sales threads to reference
Why do many people sell 20k + prints on this forum? People like to profit as much as possible,quoting gallery prices but not paying the fees. or like quicker transactions than using a 3rd party. auction houses and galleries have been known to make mistakes too OK. Can you explain how successful sales via the forum went and how the possibilities of getting ripped off are eliminated? how was payment and art exchanged?[/quoted ] When you have time on your hands there are plenty of successful completion ed transactions documented over the years on old sales threads to reference |
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poss scam involving Banksy print/Pest control, by tab1 on Aug 29, 2019 19:27:37 GMT 1, Why do many people sell 20k + prints on this forum? People like to profit as much as possible,quoting gallery prices but not paying the fees. or like quicker transactions than using a 3rd party. auction houses and galleries have been known to make mistakes too OK. Can you explain how successful sales via the forum went and how the possibilities of getting ripped off are eliminated? how was payment and art exchanged?[/quoted ] When you have time on your hands there are plenty of successful completed transactions documented over the years on old sales threads to reference
Why do many people sell 20k + prints on this forum? People like to profit as much as possible,quoting gallery prices but not paying the fees. or like quicker transactions than using a 3rd party. auction houses and galleries have been known to make mistakes too OK. Can you explain how successful sales via the forum went and how the possibilities of getting ripped off are eliminated? how was payment and art exchanged?[/quoted ] When you have time on your hands there are plenty of successful completed transactions documented over the years on old sales threads to reference |
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poss scam involving Banksy print/Pest control, by moron on Aug 29, 2019 21:49:09 GMT 1, Guys I would really appreciate some help/advice here. Please be 100% assured that everything I am about to say is 100% the truth... In 2005 I entered a lottery draw with Pictures on Walls (exclusive banksy outlet closed in 2017) to win the chance to purchase a banksy print. ( I was a regular on pictures on walls and Had already purchased girl with balloon from them and much later would purchase one of the doughnut prints). Luckily I won the chance to purchase a limited print from them and bought it as a 60th birthday present for my Father. Until very recently it has been hanging in the same spot since then. In January my mother sent images to pest control in order to obtain a certificate of authentication. She received an email saying they were very busy and would be in touch later.. That was 4 months ago. My parents are in the process of moving out and weren't at the property where the banksy has (until recently) been for the last 13 years. A friend of the family who has keys arrived today to pick something up for them and when they went to leave they were pounced on by CID and Magistrates with search warrants. They claimed to be looking for a stolen banksy print and had a printout of the same print I had bought for my father. The friend told my mother they searched the property for 2 hours (which is crazy. Its a small place and its practically empty) looking for this banksy print. The friend wouldn't give out personal details. Waited for them to leave and got a number that they asked for my parents to call them back on. My mother told me all this over the phone about 7pm tonight. I went crazy at her. Of course this wasn't the police they were coming to scam you out of the print and steal it. your emails to pest control must have been intercepted etc... My brain was going at 100 mph at this stage... Turned out the phone number appears to be genuine police. The police read my mother the same limited edition number that is on the print and said it was reported stolen in 2010. It gets weirder and weirder. All this urgency with magistrates and search warrants for not even a print in banksy's most valuable and for a fictitious crime that was sposed to have been perpetrated 8 years ago. The Policeman said he believed my mother and if she hands over the print then it will be returned to them when the investigation is over.... More questions racing through my mind.. The only solid facts I can think of are... Instead of sending a certification of authentication Pest control contacted the police and told them my parents had a stolen banksy print.. How can the people reporting it stolen even prove it was ever in their possession? Its simple. They can't because it never has been.. I can't get pictures on walls to verify my story cause they no longer exist. My virginmedia email doesn't go back further than 2010 and I can't search my bank statements further back than 2007.. What else can I do? Does anyone on here know pictures on walls and how I can contact them to help resolve this? Thanks for your time and reading all this. I am so wound up that someone would try to do this to my parents I can't even begin to tell you.... What if the fraudsters managed to get a fake authenticated all that time ago or someone at pest control is involved in this scam?
Going by what you write and i'm not making any kind of judgement either way. I can think of two theories on how this might have come about. If allegedly someone who was working at POW at the time handling sales pocketed the money and sent out a print. Which I think would not be easy to do below management level. Or if allegedly the print was paid for with a rubber cheque or stolen bank card or something similar and the print was sent out before the bank notified POW. Then POW made a record of the print number with an alert notification if and when they get sent that print number to their system.
I think POW should actually say why they believe the print is stolen and reveal the circumstances in their words that it was stolen under.
Guys I would really appreciate some help/advice here. Please be 100% assured that everything I am about to say is 100% the truth... In 2005 I entered a lottery draw with Pictures on Walls (exclusive banksy outlet closed in 2017) to win the chance to purchase a banksy print. ( I was a regular on pictures on walls and Had already purchased girl with balloon from them and much later would purchase one of the doughnut prints). Luckily I won the chance to purchase a limited print from them and bought it as a 60th birthday present for my Father. Until very recently it has been hanging in the same spot since then. In January my mother sent images to pest control in order to obtain a certificate of authentication. She received an email saying they were very busy and would be in touch later.. That was 4 months ago. My parents are in the process of moving out and weren't at the property where the banksy has (until recently) been for the last 13 years. A friend of the family who has keys arrived today to pick something up for them and when they went to leave they were pounced on by CID and Magistrates with search warrants. They claimed to be looking for a stolen banksy print and had a printout of the same print I had bought for my father. The friend told my mother they searched the property for 2 hours (which is crazy. Its a small place and its practically empty) looking for this banksy print. The friend wouldn't give out personal details. Waited for them to leave and got a number that they asked for my parents to call them back on. My mother told me all this over the phone about 7pm tonight. I went crazy at her. Of course this wasn't the police they were coming to scam you out of the print and steal it. your emails to pest control must have been intercepted etc... My brain was going at 100 mph at this stage... Turned out the phone number appears to be genuine police. The police read my mother the same limited edition number that is on the print and said it was reported stolen in 2010. It gets weirder and weirder. All this urgency with magistrates and search warrants for not even a print in banksy's most valuable and for a fictitious crime that was sposed to have been perpetrated 8 years ago. The Policeman said he believed my mother and if she hands over the print then it will be returned to them when the investigation is over.... More questions racing through my mind.. The only solid facts I can think of are... Instead of sending a certification of authentication Pest control contacted the police and told them my parents had a stolen banksy print.. How can the people reporting it stolen even prove it was ever in their possession? Its simple. They can't because it never has been.. I can't get pictures on walls to verify my story cause they no longer exist. My virginmedia email doesn't go back further than 2010 and I can't search my bank statements further back than 2007.. What else can I do? Does anyone on here know pictures on walls and how I can contact them to help resolve this? Thanks for your time and reading all this. I am so wound up that someone would try to do this to my parents I can't even begin to tell you.... What if the fraudsters managed to get a fake authenticated all that time ago or someone at pest control is involved in this scam? Going by what you write and i'm not making any kind of judgement either way. I can think of two theories on how this might have come about. If allegedly someone who was working at POW at the time handling sales pocketed the money and sent out a print. Which I think would not be easy to do below management level. Or if allegedly the print was paid for with a rubber cheque or stolen bank card or something similar and the print was sent out before the bank notified POW. Then POW made a record of the print number with an alert notification if and when they get sent that print number to their system. I think POW should actually say why they believe the print is stolen and reveal the circumstances in their words that it was stolen under. |
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poss scam involving Banksy print/Pest control, by moron on Aug 29, 2019 21:51:16 GMT 1, Please sue Pest Control, happy to donate to that end since they ve become as shady as any big art institution There terrifying PM's I'm receiving would lead me to believe you. People are too scared to even mention things on this forum that they are going through
Please sue Pest Control, happy to donate to that end since they ve become as shady as any big art institution There terrifying PM's I'm receiving would lead me to believe you. People are too scared to even mention things on this forum that they are going through What type of terrifying PM's. Legal threats or other ones? |
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poss scam involving Banksy print/Pest control, by withnail69 on Aug 29, 2019 22:43:14 GMT 1, Guys I would really appreciate some help/advice here. Please be 100% assured that everything I am about to say is 100% the truth... In 2005 I entered a lottery draw with Pictures on Walls (exclusive banksy outlet closed in 2017) to win the chance to purchase a banksy print. ( I was a regular on pictures on walls and Had already purchased girl with balloon from them and much later would purchase one of the doughnut prints). Luckily I won the chance to purchase a limited print from them and bought it as a 60th birthday present for my Father. Until very recently it has been hanging in the same spot since then. In January my mother sent images to pest control in order to obtain a certificate of authentication. She received an email saying they were very busy and would be in touch later.. That was 4 months ago. My parents are in the process of moving out and weren't at the property where the banksy has (until recently) been for the last 13 years. A friend of the family who has keys arrived today to pick something up for them and when they went to leave they were pounced on by CID and Magistrates with search warrants. They claimed to be looking for a stolen banksy print and had a printout of the same print I had bought for my father. The friend told my mother they searched the property for 2 hours (which is crazy. Its a small place and its practically empty) looking for this banksy print. The friend wouldn't give out personal details. Waited for them to leave and got a number that they asked for my parents to call them back on. My mother told me all this over the phone about 7pm tonight. I went crazy at her. Of course this wasn't the police they were coming to scam you out of the print and steal it. your emails to pest control must have been intercepted etc... My brain was going at 100 mph at this stage... Turned out the phone number appears to be genuine police. The police read my mother the same limited edition number that is on the print and said it was reported stolen in 2010. It gets weirder and weirder. All this urgency with magistrates and search warrants for not even a print in banksy's most valuable and for a fictitious crime that was sposed to have been perpetrated 8 years ago. The Policeman said he believed my mother and if she hands over the print then it will be returned to them when the investigation is over.... More questions racing through my mind.. The only solid facts I can think of are... Instead of sending a certification of authentication Pest control contacted the police and told them my parents had a stolen banksy print.. How can the people reporting it stolen even prove it was ever in their possession? Its simple. They can't because it never has been.. I can't get pictures on walls to verify my story cause they no longer exist. My virginmedia email doesn't go back further than 2010 and I can't search my bank statements further back than 2007.. What else can I do? Does anyone on here know pictures on walls and how I can contact them to help resolve this? Thanks for your time and reading all this. I am so wound up that someone would try to do this to my parents I can't even begin to tell you.... What if the fraudsters managed to get a fake authenticated all that time ago or someone at pest control is involved in this scam? Going by what you write and i'm not making any kind of judgement either way. I can think of two theories on how this might have come about. If allegedly someone who was working at POW at the time handling sales pocketed the money and sent out a print. Which I think would not be easy to do below management level. Or if allegedly the print was paid for with a rubber cheque or stolen bank card or something similar and the print was sent out before the bank notified POW. Then POW made a record of the print number with an alert notification if and when they get sent that print number to their system. I think POW should actually say why they believe the print is stolen and reveal the circumstances in their words that it was stolen under.
Hi mate thanks for this post. Your first theory sounds feasible. We think the payment was made on a card of my mums with a bank that no longer exists so even the police didn’t manage to get the bloody bank statements. Just to expand. The print was t reported stolen until 2011 whereas we bought it in 2005 so wouldn’t have been flagged for first 6 years it was in our possession
Guys I would really appreciate some help/advice here. Please be 100% assured that everything I am about to say is 100% the truth... In 2005 I entered a lottery draw with Pictures on Walls (exclusive banksy outlet closed in 2017) to win the chance to purchase a banksy print. ( I was a regular on pictures on walls and Had already purchased girl with balloon from them and much later would purchase one of the doughnut prints). Luckily I won the chance to purchase a limited print from them and bought it as a 60th birthday present for my Father. Until very recently it has been hanging in the same spot since then. In January my mother sent images to pest control in order to obtain a certificate of authentication. She received an email saying they were very busy and would be in touch later.. That was 4 months ago. My parents are in the process of moving out and weren't at the property where the banksy has (until recently) been for the last 13 years. A friend of the family who has keys arrived today to pick something up for them and when they went to leave they were pounced on by CID and Magistrates with search warrants. They claimed to be looking for a stolen banksy print and had a printout of the same print I had bought for my father. The friend told my mother they searched the property for 2 hours (which is crazy. Its a small place and its practically empty) looking for this banksy print. The friend wouldn't give out personal details. Waited for them to leave and got a number that they asked for my parents to call them back on. My mother told me all this over the phone about 7pm tonight. I went crazy at her. Of course this wasn't the police they were coming to scam you out of the print and steal it. your emails to pest control must have been intercepted etc... My brain was going at 100 mph at this stage... Turned out the phone number appears to be genuine police. The police read my mother the same limited edition number that is on the print and said it was reported stolen in 2010. It gets weirder and weirder. All this urgency with magistrates and search warrants for not even a print in banksy's most valuable and for a fictitious crime that was sposed to have been perpetrated 8 years ago. The Policeman said he believed my mother and if she hands over the print then it will be returned to them when the investigation is over.... More questions racing through my mind.. The only solid facts I can think of are... Instead of sending a certification of authentication Pest control contacted the police and told them my parents had a stolen banksy print.. How can the people reporting it stolen even prove it was ever in their possession? Its simple. They can't because it never has been.. I can't get pictures on walls to verify my story cause they no longer exist. My virginmedia email doesn't go back further than 2010 and I can't search my bank statements further back than 2007.. What else can I do? Does anyone on here know pictures on walls and how I can contact them to help resolve this? Thanks for your time and reading all this. I am so wound up that someone would try to do this to my parents I can't even begin to tell you.... What if the fraudsters managed to get a fake authenticated all that time ago or someone at pest control is involved in this scam? Going by what you write and i'm not making any kind of judgement either way. I can think of two theories on how this might have come about. If allegedly someone who was working at POW at the time handling sales pocketed the money and sent out a print. Which I think would not be easy to do below management level. Or if allegedly the print was paid for with a rubber cheque or stolen bank card or something similar and the print was sent out before the bank notified POW. Then POW made a record of the print number with an alert notification if and when they get sent that print number to their system. I think POW should actually say why they believe the print is stolen and reveal the circumstances in their words that it was stolen under. Hi mate thanks for this post. Your first theory sounds feasible. We think the payment was made on a card of my mums with a bank that no longer exists so even the police didn’t manage to get the bloody bank statements. Just to expand. The print was t reported stolen until 2011 whereas we bought it in 2005 so wouldn’t have been flagged for first 6 years it was in our possession |
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