Banksy Grannies Print

[Monkey Say Monkey Do]

Apr 20, 2021 18:33:51 GMT 1 Monkey Say Monkey Do said:

I have decided to keep the Grannies for now but would still like to sell my Police kid / Jack and Jill signed print for 60k .

Registered in my name with COA in hand .

Framed and ready to go .

London based .

PM for further  details .

many thanks 

[Daniel Silk]

Some very nice close up and detailed photos of a Signed Banksy Grannies print.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CifYzHfuzpU

www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_nkw=banksy+grannies

[daniel3886]

Mar 8, 2023 0:30:53 GMT 1 daniel3886 said:

Hi looking for the following Banksy prints:

Signed Grannies
Unsigned Happy Choppers

Please mail me [e-mail] expect a quick easy deal with swift payment.

Unsigned Happy Choppers located and agreed
Still looking for Signed Grannies please get in touch if you have one.

Also looking for Dran original works on canvas/wood (no cardboard/paper) again pls contact me if you’re looking to sell something.

[bouncer300]

I have advertised these before but would like to sell still. Only selling one of them so which ever one goes first. Both pristine condition. with COA's.  They can be inspected at a gallery in Kent.

Offers over 14k

[sharky]

Hi, still firm with the price?

[bouncer300]

What were you thinking then ?

[bouncer300]

 Queen Vic, and Grannies all unsigned unframed, in great condition with COA.

I thought I had put this on the other day but I cant see it so sorry if its a duplicate. 

I was messed about by Prescription art telling me they had a buyer and wasted 2-3 months on it, so hence still available. I have been looking on an auction site and the prices I have given to some are probably not high enough.  Here is the link to it.
www.banksy-value.com/realised.php.  If you are only going to contact me to tell me that they are work stupid money please do not bother.   I am looking for £12500 or offers in that region. Anyone posting nonsense about the value will be blocked and posting their opinion to put others off from buying. As per usual people on here want things for nothing but when they are selling want the correct price. 

[china man]

Good luck! Like both of them. Price might be helpful for some?

[bouncer300]

Iol 12500 for each

[Quinnster]

Is the market really this low?

[bouncer300]

Hi I wasn’t exactly sure of the prices but looked at the auction and I should be a bit higher and for Trollies it’s 41k at least  

[bouncer300]

I should be higher ! I wasn’t sure of the prices . 

[dbm]

Great prints GLWTS…

[bouncer300]

Thank you 🙏🏻

[Richy Rich]

Think there’s an issue with the Banksy value site at the moment. The last trollies sold at Tate hammered at £10,000

www.tateward.com/auction/lot/lot-200---banksy-british-1974--trolleys-black--white-2007/?lot=21292&so=0&st=Banksy&sto=0&au=109&ef=&et=&ic=False&sd=1&pp=96&pn=1&g=1

[Richard]

Definitely not 41k for unsigned trolleys.

[Gunny]

Unfortunately you re two years out with your pricing.

[hnkpnk]

Aug 18, 2024 8:48:18 GMT 1 Richy Rich said:

Think there’s an issue with the Banksy value site at the moment. The last trollies sold at Tate hammered at £10,000

www.tateward.com/auction/lot/lot-200---banksy-british-1974--trolleys-black--white-2007/?lot=21292&so=0&st=Banksy&sto=0&au=109&ef=&et=&ic=False&sd=1&pp=96&pn=1&g=1

[bouncer300]

Yes it has creases the one in the auction  it says on the description of the auction description and it sold for 18K 

[sevrin]

The Banksy-Value site is way off, it shows the last 3 results at Tate ward being all at 54000 USD.
Below are the actual results.
You may wish to adjust your expectations.

[artlike]

Aug 17, 2024 19:00:49 GMT 1 Quinnster said:

Is the market really this low?

Lower. Where have you been?? 

[LJCal]

Aug 23, 2024 9:23:44 GMT 1 sevrin said:

The Banksy-Value site is way off, it shows the last 3 results at Tate ward being all at 54000 USD.
Below are the actual results.
You may wish to adjust your expectations.

You’re wasting your breath. One of those situations where the seller won’t allow pesky facts to impact their fantasy valuation. Apparently they’re worth $41k because some random gallery is asking this much for one, and one sold 3 years ago at this price, who knew?

[mission]

I think yet again the market has been expected /demanded a jump in prices after the recent banksy events in London …. Yet again this has not materialised. Same as Glasgow Exhibtion . It’s going to take more than this to revitalise and stimulate this market .
The revamping or cessation of Pest Control in its current format being a starter … just my humble opinion

[mission]

Ps both these prints are now sub £10k in a private sale … not my opinion but pretty much fact now !

[artcore]

We'll be adding Banksy to our platform soon which should help give collectors greater visibility into individual pieces valuations. Banksy value does a great job at it regardless. What people need to understand is that the price levels seen around 2020/2021 were anomalies and do not reflect in any sense where the market lies now. Wouldn't even call it a crash - more so a correction. When you see how the market has grown since 2010, its quite easy to see how big of an anomaly the growth seen during pandemic era was, and in hindsight, how unsustainable that was. Market's in a much healthier state now and should continue to appreciate as it has for the last 15 years.

That said, a lot of people have gotten burned on their purchases over the last few years and will be significantly under water for a bit, which tends to turn them away from spending on art in general. Hence, any serious seller looking to move their works need to understand how important pricing it right is. It's no longer a sellers market and most buyer's aren't fussed dealing with someone who's asking double or triple what the work is worth

[artlike]

Aug 27, 2024 18:47:48 GMT 1 artcore said:

We'll be adding Banksy to our platform soon which should help give collectors greater visibility into individual pieces valuations. Banksy value does a great job at it regardless. What people need to understand is that the price levels seen around 2020/2021 were anomalies and do not reflect in any sense where the market lies now. Wouldn't even call it a crash - more so a correction. When you see how the market has grown since 2010, its quite easy to see how big of an anomaly the growth seen during pandemic era was, and in hindsight, how unsustainable that was. Market's in a much healthier state now and should continue to appreciate as it has for the last 15 years.

That said, a lot of people have gotten burned on their purchases over the last few years and will be significantly under water for a bit, which tends to turn them away from spending on art in general. Hence, any serious seller looking to move their works need to understand how important pricing it right is. It's no longer a sellers market and most buyer's aren't fussed dealing with someone who's asking double or triple what the work is worth

I really hate the term "correction" used in respect of pricing. By the by and nothing to do with you but it's just, such a poor term. Same with the term "progressive". 

I don't think you're doing your site any favours by trying to suggest that prices haven't crashed...some prints are down 70% from the peak and falling. Yes yes maybe v a few years back they haven't, but relative to two years ago. Crash is probably an understatement. Suggests you don't really know what you're talking about, which I'm sure is not the case, although your last post

[LJCal]

Aug 27, 2024 20:33:45 GMT 1 artlike said:

Aug 27, 2024 18:47:48 GMT 1 artcore said:

We'll be adding Banksy to our platform soon which should help give collectors greater visibility into individual pieces valuations. Banksy value does a great job at it regardless. What people need to understand is that the price levels seen around 2020/2021 were anomalies and do not reflect in any sense where the market lies now. Wouldn't even call it a crash - more so a correction. When you see how the market has grown since 2010, its quite easy to see how big of an anomaly the growth seen during pandemic era was, and in hindsight, how unsustainable that was. Market's in a much healthier state now and should continue to appreciate as it has for the last 15 years.

That said, a lot of people have gotten burned on their purchases over the last few years and will be significantly under water for a bit, which tends to turn them away from spending on art in general. Hence, any serious seller looking to move their works need to understand how important pricing it right is. It's no longer a sellers market and most buyer's aren't fussed dealing with someone who's asking double or triple what the work is worth

I really hate the term "correction" used in respect of pricing. By the by and nothing to do with you but it's just, such a poor term. Same with the term "progressive". 

I don't think you're doing your site any favours by trying to suggest that prices haven't crashed...some prints are down 70% from the peak and falling. Yes yes maybe v a few years back they haven't, but relative to two years ago. Crash is probably an understatement. Suggests you don't really know what you're talking about, which I'm sure is not the case, although your last post

I'm not a fan of that term either, it's generally used by people with a vested interest in a market and can be broadly translated to mean that the ass has completely dropped out of the market.

In fairness to artcore I think the point he's making is that the rises during Covid were really the anomaly and the recent falls are bringing values back into line with the long term trend, in that sense I think it's a fair use of the term. Whether the B market returns to pre-pandemic levels of growth off these rebased values remains to be seen. For what it's worth I actually agree with what Artcore is saying and share the opinion that what we are seeing now is really where prints would have been if Covid never happened (in fact arguably they're perhaps a little over sold), I hold the view that growth will likely return in the medium to long term. I have no idea at what rate or if the market has further to fall, and of course I could be completely wrong and values may recover very slowly, if at all (wouldn't be the first time I was wrong and won't be the last). 

[artcore]

It depends on what perspective you look at it from.. again, the point that we're trying to make is that if an artist's market has grown by 8-10% annually for 10+ years, and then all of a sudden shoots up by 400% in two years only for it to come down to price points that would've been observed had the 400% jump never happened to begin with (and instead, no COVID craziness happened and it continued to grow at the typical 8-10% rate), then the price levels we're seeing currently are fair. Again, when you compare them to 2021 peaks, yes, it seems like they crashed, but the point being made is that the 2021 price levels that were observed to begin with were a huge anomaly that was only observed because of the insane monetary policies around that era. Drawing comparisons to those price points are nonsensical for an artist whose print market has existed since way before then.

When you compare where most prints were at during 2018/2019, before the COVID craziness, to where they are now, you can see quite easily that they're at price levels that are in-line with Banksy's expected growth. Now, for example, if we start seeing prints go back to 2014 price point for example, I would agree that its no longer a "correction" (for the lack of a better term) and instead is a "crash". How this ends up playing - only time will tell - we're simply making an observation based on the current state that we see.

[artlike]

Well it's easy to say all that now but I don't remember many people liquidating their portfolios with the price up 400%. I remember a lot of "to the moon" talk and "I've got 4 GWRBs". So if you data mine and compare prices to different years, then it will support any argument. I see your point, but the market has crashed/collapsed/dived since the peaks, in a bad way. If you bought in 2019 then well done...but unless you sold in 2021/22 there's a significant opportunity loss.

This forum sounded like a crypto forum for 6 months.

[needfoolthings]

Fair prices for the market and love the grannies if I hadn’t just picked up another unsigned I’d be all over it!