Poster Bob
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Banksy Love Rat Print, by Poster Bob on Feb 25, 2015 14:11:28 GMT 1, The last time I saw one the asking price was around £12.5k but with the recent results at Bonham's that may have increased.
The last time I saw one the asking price was around £12.5k but with the recent results at Bonham's that may have increased.
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Banksy Love Rat Print, by Deleted on Feb 25, 2015 14:29:44 GMT 1, Wow - they've crept up! How much woul you say for a signed Gangsta Rat? Similar? I would think 14k. But I do own one... I think a signed gangsta sold recently for 10k it was a private sale.
Wow - they've crept up! How much woul you say for a signed Gangsta Rat? Similar? I would think 14k. But I do own one... I think a signed gangsta sold recently for 10k it was a private sale.
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Banksy Love Rat Print, by Deleted on Feb 25, 2015 16:12:47 GMT 1, MY FAV RAT .........................................
MY FAV RAT .........................................
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me
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Banksy Love Rat Print, by me on Feb 25, 2015 17:44:40 GMT 1, Gangsta rat is also my favourite rat, here's mine
Gangsta rat is also my favourite rat, here's mine
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rebelate
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Banksy Love Rat Print, by rebelate on Aug 7, 2015 3:26:15 GMT 1, Dear members, I took risk purchasing an unsigned Love Rat which has no COA. I knew the risks involved but the price and conditions was worth the risk. It is currently in the post and will be arriving tomorrow.
If anyone can send or post close up/detailed photos of their unsigned Love Rat so that I can compare my purchased one to one which has COA I would be greatly appreciative. Any little printing details/stamp/numberings that could help distinguish a real from a fake would extremely helpful.
Of course at the same time I will be submitting for PC COA the second I receive it but knowing how PC works it would be too late by the time I receive a response.
But in the mean time, because it is time sensitive, I wanted to see if I can do as much research before hand to not lose any time just incase I need to return it as a fake or possibly backdoor print.
Hopefully one or two forum members can come through on this one and help me out! Thanks!
Dear members, I took risk purchasing an unsigned Love Rat which has no COA. I knew the risks involved but the price and conditions was worth the risk. It is currently in the post and will be arriving tomorrow.
If anyone can send or post close up/detailed photos of their unsigned Love Rat so that I can compare my purchased one to one which has COA I would be greatly appreciative. Any little printing details/stamp/numberings that could help distinguish a real from a fake would extremely helpful.
Of course at the same time I will be submitting for PC COA the second I receive it but knowing how PC works it would be too late by the time I receive a response.
But in the mean time, because it is time sensitive, I wanted to see if I can do as much research before hand to not lose any time just incase I need to return it as a fake or possibly backdoor print.
Hopefully one or two forum members can come through on this one and help me out! Thanks!
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Banksy Love Rat Print, by Deleted on Aug 7, 2015 4:16:52 GMT 1, Hi, is it the one sold on ebay on the 24th from California? If so I didnt see any edition number in the photo they had on ebay. I kept clear of it for that reason and the fact they didnt have a COA. I Wish you the best of luck...
Hi, is it the one sold on ebay on the 24th from California? If so I didnt see any edition number in the photo they had on ebay. I kept clear of it for that reason and the fact they didnt have a COA. I Wish you the best of luck...
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rebelate
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Banksy Love Rat Print, by rebelate on Aug 7, 2015 5:41:04 GMT 1, Went through the forums and gathered as many photos as I could but still nothing that would be detailed or close up enough to help. Thanks for the recommendation though, I just wish we had more resources posted... hence why I'm hoping members will chime in!
Went through the forums and gathered as many photos as I could but still nothing that would be detailed or close up enough to help. Thanks for the recommendation though, I just wish we had more resources posted... hence why I'm hoping members will chime in!
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rebelate
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Banksy Love Rat Print, by rebelate on Aug 7, 2015 5:44:58 GMT 1, Hi, is it the one sold on ebay on the 24th from California? If so I didnt see any edition number in the photo they had on ebay. I kept clear of it for that reason and the fact they didnt have a COA. I Wish you the best of luck... Yup thats the one. To be honest shipping has been a nightmare. Shipped uninsured and in the cheapest way possible, no tracking or anything. It actually went back to them because they had the wrong address so it went back to sender. But it's coming tomorrow for sure this time. I spoke with the seller and he seemed legit so I thought it would be worth the risk with ebay protection.
The photos are not even of the actual print, a quick search afterwards proved that they were just recycled from another listing and google images. So yeah that's worrisome. But again like I said I should be protected via ebay. We'll see how it all plays out!
Hi, is it the one sold on ebay on the 24th from California? If so I didnt see any edition number in the photo they had on ebay. I kept clear of it for that reason and the fact they didnt have a COA. I Wish you the best of luck... Yup thats the one. To be honest shipping has been a nightmare. Shipped uninsured and in the cheapest way possible, no tracking or anything. It actually went back to them because they had the wrong address so it went back to sender. But it's coming tomorrow for sure this time. I spoke with the seller and he seemed legit so I thought it would be worth the risk with ebay protection. The photos are not even of the actual print, a quick search afterwards proved that they were just recycled from another listing and google images. So yeah that's worrisome. But again like I said I should be protected via ebay. We'll see how it all plays out!
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samfrost
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Banksy Love Rat Print, by samfrost on Aug 7, 2015 6:59:16 GMT 1, Hmm...tread carefully. If it's too good to be true...utilize the eBay guarantee
Hmm...tread carefully. If it's too good to be true...utilize the eBay guarantee
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iamzero
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Banksy Love Rat Print, by iamzero on Aug 7, 2015 7:08:51 GMT 1, No COA. No postal insurance. No tracking. Really?
No COA. No postal insurance. No tracking. Really?
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rebelate
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Banksy Love Rat Print, by rebelate on Aug 7, 2015 7:14:48 GMT 1, Hmm...tread carefully. If it's too good to be true...utilize the eBay guarantee The part that is a bit comforting besides the fact that theres the bey guarantee is that he's about a 1 hour drive away from me and I'm pretty sure he put a return address on the tube:) Worst thing someone can try to do is try and screw me when I know where they live:)
Hmm...tread carefully. If it's too good to be true...utilize the eBay guarantee The part that is a bit comforting besides the fact that theres the bey guarantee is that he's about a 1 hour drive away from me and I'm pretty sure he put a return address on the tube:) Worst thing someone can try to do is try and screw me when I know where they live:)
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rebelate
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Banksy Love Rat Print, by rebelate on Aug 7, 2015 7:15:46 GMT 1, No COA. No postal insurance. No tracking. Really? Right? I think I've redefined the term "gambling man" haha
No COA. No postal insurance. No tracking. Really? Right? I think I've redefined the term "gambling man" haha
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Cornish Crayon
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Banksy Love Rat Print, by Cornish Crayon on Aug 7, 2015 7:59:59 GMT 1, An hours drive and you didn't do face to face ...........
And I bet he hasn't put a return address on it.
What's his eBay feedback, is his account closed yet ?
An hours drive and you didn't do face to face ...........
And I bet he hasn't put a return address on it.
What's his eBay feedback, is his account closed yet ?
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rebelate
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Banksy Love Rat Print, by rebelate on Aug 7, 2015 8:11:13 GMT 1, An hours drive and you didn't do face to face ........... And I bet he hasn't put a return address on it. What's his eBay feedback, is his account closed yet ? Gotta have faith...come on people!
An hours drive and you didn't do face to face ........... And I bet he hasn't put a return address on it. What's his eBay feedback, is his account closed yet ? Gotta have faith...come on people!
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Dibbs 45
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Banksy Love Rat Print, by Dibbs 45 on Aug 7, 2015 8:47:17 GMT 1, Hope it turns out alright for you, but you seemed to be taking a risk there. It was a different matter when these were £74.99 years ago.
Hope it turns out alright for you, but you seemed to be taking a risk there. It was a different matter when these were £74.99 years ago.
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Aza
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Banksy Love Rat Print, by Aza on Aug 7, 2015 18:55:18 GMT 1, I hope you don't get burnt, but you've really made it easy for them
I hope you don't get burnt, but you've really made it easy for them
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rebelate
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Banksy Love Rat Print, by rebelate on Aug 7, 2015 18:59:35 GMT 1, He was "out of town" lol
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rebelate
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Banksy Love Rat Print, by rebelate on Aug 7, 2015 19:00:47 GMT 1, Ok guys, yup it's a fake. Don't even need to look at comparison photos. It looks ink jet printed! Oh well...eBay money back guarantee it is!
Ok guys, yup it's a fake. Don't even need to look at comparison photos. It looks ink jet printed! Oh well...eBay money back guarantee it is!
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Banksy Love Rat Print, by WILLYBKLN on Aug 7, 2015 19:00:56 GMT 1, Why not just meet in person, inspect, pay cash, etc? Wanted eBay/PP guarantee?
Why not just meet in person, inspect, pay cash, etc? Wanted eBay/PP guarantee?
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rebelate
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Banksy Love Rat Print, by rebelate on Aug 7, 2015 19:02:23 GMT 1, I hope you don't get burnt, but you've really made it easy for them Thank's Aza, I'm not too worried. I've gotten my money back on larger purchases for smaller issues than a total fake haha! Oh and the seller had allowed returns also.
I hope you don't get burnt, but you've really made it easy for them Thank's Aza, I'm not too worried. I've gotten my money back on larger purchases for smaller issues than a total fake haha! Oh and the seller had allowed returns also.
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Banksy Love Rat Print, by WILLYBKLN on Aug 7, 2015 19:12:28 GMT 1, Ok guys, yup it's a fake. Don't even need to look at comparison photos. It looks ink jet printed! Oh well...eBay money back guarantee it is! Ugh that's terrible. Some people.....hope you can get a quick refund.
Ok guys, yup it's a fake. Don't even need to look at comparison photos. It looks ink jet printed! Oh well...eBay money back guarantee it is! Ugh that's terrible. Some people.....hope you can get a quick refund.
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rebelate
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Banksy Love Rat Print, by rebelate on Aug 7, 2015 19:23:43 GMT 1, Ok guys, yup it's a fake. Don't even need to look at comparison photos. It looks ink jet printed! Oh well...eBay money back guarantee it is! Ugh that's terrible. Some people.....hope you can get a quick refund. Thanks mate, already opened a case, should have my money back within 48-72 hours.
Ok guys, yup it's a fake. Don't even need to look at comparison photos. It looks ink jet printed! Oh well...eBay money back guarantee it is! Ugh that's terrible. Some people.....hope you can get a quick refund. Thanks mate, already opened a case, should have my money back within 48-72 hours.
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Banksy Love Rat Print, by lathe on Aug 7, 2015 19:48:08 GMT 1, Good luck with this, hopefully it plays out ok.its a funny thing, sometimes when purchasing Banksys ,judgement goes out the window.We all know how to proceed, does the print look right, who's the seller, COA, images, close up of corners,Verso, blindstamps, numbering etc, face to face meet if close enough But still we run hot and "trust to luck "with our hard earned cash and sometimes our eyes fail when we view and don't seethe folds that that have been flattened out ...I hope this plays out in your favour
Good luck with this, hopefully it plays out ok.its a funny thing, sometimes when purchasing Banksys ,judgement goes out the window.We all know how to proceed, does the print look right, who's the seller, COA, images, close up of corners,Verso, blindstamps, numbering etc, face to face meet if close enough But still we run hot and "trust to luck "with our hard earned cash and sometimes our eyes fail when we view and don't seethe folds that that have been flattened out ...I hope this plays out in your favour
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Banksy Love Rat Print, by FЯ on Aug 7, 2015 19:53:59 GMT 1, Good luck with this, hopefully it plays out ok.its a funny thing, sometimes when purchasing Banksys ,judgement goes out the window.We all know how to proceed, does the print look right, who's the seller, COA, images, close up of corners,Verso, blindstamps, numbering etc, face to face meet if close enough But still we run hot and "trust to luck "with our hard earned cash and sometimes our eyes fail when we view and don't seethe folds that that have been flattened out ...I hope this plays out in your favour A bit of that, but also if a price is too good to be true then it is. no one is going to sell a real bansky on ebay by mistake for a bargain price, people are not that stupid.
Good luck with this, hopefully it plays out ok.its a funny thing, sometimes when purchasing Banksys ,judgement goes out the window.We all know how to proceed, does the print look right, who's the seller, COA, images, close up of corners,Verso, blindstamps, numbering etc, face to face meet if close enough But still we run hot and "trust to luck "with our hard earned cash and sometimes our eyes fail when we view and don't seethe folds that that have been flattened out ...I hope this plays out in your favour A bit of that, but also if a price is too good to be true then it is. no one is going to sell a real bansky on ebay by mistake for a bargain price, people are not that stupid.
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Banksy Love Rat Print, by FЯ on Aug 7, 2015 19:57:07 GMT 1, I hope you don't get burnt, but you've really made it easy for them Thank's Aza, I'm not too worried. I've gotten my money back on larger purchases for smaller issues than a total fake haha! Oh and the seller had allowed returns also. Problem is you need to prove its a fake now, i had this a few years ago with a dface drawing from ebay. paypal and ebay employees do not tend to be up on their street art. Its not going to be a short process.
i had to send it to dface who had to confirm it was fake who then got stolenspace to write me a letter which i had to post directly to paypal recorded delivery. It then took 28 days for them to reply to that. you could try asking pest control. But make sure you do all this within 45 days otherwise no money is due back.
I hope you don't get burnt, but you've really made it easy for them Thank's Aza, I'm not too worried. I've gotten my money back on larger purchases for smaller issues than a total fake haha! Oh and the seller had allowed returns also. Problem is you need to prove its a fake now, i had this a few years ago with a dface drawing from ebay. paypal and ebay employees do not tend to be up on their street art. Its not going to be a short process. i had to send it to dface who had to confirm it was fake who then got stolenspace to write me a letter which i had to post directly to paypal recorded delivery. It then took 28 days for them to reply to that. you could try asking pest control. But make sure you do all this within 45 days otherwise no money is due back.
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rebelate
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Banksy Love Rat Print, by rebelate on Aug 7, 2015 20:12:43 GMT 1, Good luck with this, hopefully it plays out ok.its a funny thing, sometimes when purchasing Banksys ,judgement goes out the window.We all know how to proceed, does the print look right, who's the seller, COA, images, close up of corners,Verso, blindstamps, numbering etc, face to face meet if close enough But still we run hot and "trust to luck "with our hard earned cash and sometimes our eyes fail when we view and don't seethe folds that that have been flattened out ...I hope this plays out in your favour A bit of that, but also if a price is too good to be true then it is. no one is going to sell a real bansky on ebay by mistake for a bargain price, people are not that stupid. For what it's worth I had a sniper amount for more than the winning amount. I had spoken to the seller before end of auction, he stated he won it in a storage auction. As soon as the auction ended he asked to cancel the win because his cousin told him it's worth 4x's more. However I told him I wouldn't cancel. A part of me thinks that maybe he actually has the original and sent me a fake to avoid missing out on a bigger pay day?
Good luck with this, hopefully it plays out ok.its a funny thing, sometimes when purchasing Banksys ,judgement goes out the window.We all know how to proceed, does the print look right, who's the seller, COA, images, close up of corners,Verso, blindstamps, numbering etc, face to face meet if close enough But still we run hot and "trust to luck "with our hard earned cash and sometimes our eyes fail when we view and don't seethe folds that that have been flattened out ...I hope this plays out in your favour A bit of that, but also if a price is too good to be true then it is. no one is going to sell a real bansky on ebay by mistake for a bargain price, people are not that stupid. For what it's worth I had a sniper amount for more than the winning amount. I had spoken to the seller before end of auction, he stated he won it in a storage auction. As soon as the auction ended he asked to cancel the win because his cousin told him it's worth 4x's more. However I told him I wouldn't cancel. A part of me thinks that maybe he actually has the original and sent me a fake to avoid missing out on a bigger pay day?
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rebelate
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Banksy Love Rat Print, by rebelate on Aug 7, 2015 20:14:54 GMT 1, Thank's Aza, I'm not too worried. I've gotten my money back on larger purchases for smaller issues than a total fake haha! Oh and the seller had allowed returns also. Problem is you need to prove its a fake now, i had this a few years ago with a dface drawing from ebay. paypal and ebay employees do not tend to be up on their street art. Its not going to be a short process. i had to send it to dface who had to confirm it was fake who then got stolenspace to write me a letter which i had to post directly to paypal recorded delivery. It then took 28 days for them to reply to that. you could try asking pest control. But make sure you do all this within 45 days otherwise no money is due back. Well that would suck. I think this guy will cave once he receives my response to him selling me a fake. I have his home address, cell, and email. I don't think he wants to mess around with me.
It's such a bad fake that I don't even want to waste Pest Control's time with it but maybe it's a good idea just so they have the seller's name and print photos in their data base to help others in the future? Sucks they're on vacation though, the whole process would take longer than what it would for him to resell it to a potential sucker.
Thank's Aza, I'm not too worried. I've gotten my money back on larger purchases for smaller issues than a total fake haha! Oh and the seller had allowed returns also. Problem is you need to prove its a fake now, i had this a few years ago with a dface drawing from ebay. paypal and ebay employees do not tend to be up on their street art. Its not going to be a short process. i had to send it to dface who had to confirm it was fake who then got stolenspace to write me a letter which i had to post directly to paypal recorded delivery. It then took 28 days for them to reply to that. you could try asking pest control. But make sure you do all this within 45 days otherwise no money is due back. Well that would suck. I think this guy will cave once he receives my response to him selling me a fake. I have his home address, cell, and email. I don't think he wants to mess around with me. It's such a bad fake that I don't even want to waste Pest Control's time with it but maybe it's a good idea just so they have the seller's name and print photos in their data base to help others in the future? Sucks they're on vacation though, the whole process would take longer than what it would for him to resell it to a potential sucker.
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Banksy Love Rat Print, by FЯ on Aug 7, 2015 20:15:56 GMT 1, A bit of that, but also if a price is too good to be true then it is. no one is going to sell a real bansky on ebay by mistake for a bargain price, people are not that stupid. For what it's worth I had a sniper amount for more than the winning amount. I had spoken to the seller before end of auction, he stated he won it in a storage auction. As soon as the auction ended he asked to cancel the win because his cousin told him it's worth 4x's more. However I told him I wouldn't cancel. A part of me thinks that maybe he actually has the original and sent me a fake to avoid missing out on a bigger pay day? Its all part of the conman making you think hes made a mistake / its real.
A bit of that, but also if a price is too good to be true then it is. no one is going to sell a real bansky on ebay by mistake for a bargain price, people are not that stupid. For what it's worth I had a sniper amount for more than the winning amount. I had spoken to the seller before end of auction, he stated he won it in a storage auction. As soon as the auction ended he asked to cancel the win because his cousin told him it's worth 4x's more. However I told him I wouldn't cancel. A part of me thinks that maybe he actually has the original and sent me a fake to avoid missing out on a bigger pay day? Its all part of the conman making you think hes made a mistake / its real.
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Banksy Love Rat Print, by Deleted on Aug 7, 2015 20:16:06 GMT 1, Good luck with this, hopefully it plays out ok.its a funny thing, sometimes when purchasing Banksys ,judgement goes out the window.We all know how to proceed, does the print look right, who's the seller, COA, images, close up of corners,Verso, blindstamps, numbering etc, face to face meet if close enough But still we run hot and "trust to luck "with our hard earned cash and sometimes our eyes fail when we view and don't seethe folds that that have been flattened out ...I hope this plays out in your favour A bit of that, but also if a price is too good to be true then it is. no one is going to sell a real bansky on ebay by mistake for a bargain price, people are not that stupid. And what you've also done is provide all those fakers with ammunition to keep putting up these scams, because that's what they are. The ebay equivalent of phishing.
Good luck with this, hopefully it plays out ok.its a funny thing, sometimes when purchasing Banksys ,judgement goes out the window.We all know how to proceed, does the print look right, who's the seller, COA, images, close up of corners,Verso, blindstamps, numbering etc, face to face meet if close enough But still we run hot and "trust to luck "with our hard earned cash and sometimes our eyes fail when we view and don't seethe folds that that have been flattened out ...I hope this plays out in your favour A bit of that, but also if a price is too good to be true then it is. no one is going to sell a real bansky on ebay by mistake for a bargain price, people are not that stupid. And what you've also done is provide all those fakers with ammunition to keep putting up these scams, because that's what they are. The ebay equivalent of phishing.
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