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Martin Whatson • Connection Print, by fac51 on Mar 30, 2018 10:03:05 GMT 1, If you missed out on the pre-order you may now pre-order from my website: Obey Classics
If you missed out on the pre-order you may now pre-order from my website: Obey ClassicsCan't wait to see pictures of your haul.. |
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Martin Whatson • Connection Print, by Arty Farty 15 on Mar 30, 2018 12:34:39 GMT 1, Carted, managed to read all 23 pages of the Terms & Conditions and still successful on the drop.
I think you all need to wipe your tears, sort out your arthritis hands and get a faster internet connection.
Carted, managed to read all 23 pages of the Terms & Conditions and still successful on the drop.
I think you all need to wipe your tears, sort out your arthritis hands and get a faster internet connection.
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Martin Whatson • Connection Print, by Express Post on Mar 30, 2018 12:40:08 GMT 1, Spent too much at ABHK2018 so I gave zero fks about a 295 quid print.
Bot up or shut up.
Spent too much at ABHK2018 so I gave zero fks about a 295 quid print.
Bot up or shut up.
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Martin Whatson • Connection Print, by sneakersnart on Mar 30, 2018 15:34:12 GMT 1, If you missed out on the pre-order you may now pre-order from my website: Obey ClassicsCan't wait to see pictures of your haul.. 
If you missed out on the pre-order you may now pre-order from my website: Obey ClassicsCan't wait to see pictures of your haul.. We went 9/9 - All for clients |
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Martin Whatson • Connection Print, by Aubrey 245 on Mar 31, 2018 12:01:07 GMT 1,
graffitiprints reaction to the ebay flippers.. via instagram post
graffitiprints reaction to the ebay flippers.. via instagram post |
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Martin Whatson • Connection Print, by Arty Farty 15 on Mar 31, 2018 12:27:06 GMT 1, graffitiprints reaction to the ebay flippers.. via instagram post
Ok so everyone who wants one at cost should buy up the remaining ones on eBay to get the sellers name and pass onto GP?
graffitiprints reaction to the ebay flippers.. via instagram post Ok so everyone who wants one at cost should buy up the remaining ones on eBay to get the sellers name and pass onto GP? |
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Martin Whatson • Connection Print, by Aubrey 245 on Mar 31, 2018 12:50:34 GMT 1, graffitiprints reaction to the ebay flippers.. via instagram post Ok so everyone who wants one at cost should buy up the remaining ones on eBay to get the sellers name and pass onto GP?
sound like, yes.
graffitiprints reaction to the ebay flippers.. via instagram post Ok so everyone who wants one at cost should buy up the remaining ones on eBay to get the sellers name and pass onto GP? sound like, yes. |
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Martin Whatson • Connection Print, by DRMNGTREE on Mar 31, 2018 12:53:14 GMT 1, I'd have to imagine that people insta flipping these are either using alt info to buy or sell, but it's worth a shot.
I'd have to imagine that people insta flipping these are either using alt info to buy or sell, but it's worth a shot.
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Martin Whatson • Connection Print, by quinn on Mar 31, 2018 13:01:47 GMT 1, graffitiprints reaction to the ebay flippers.. via instagram post
why don't GP just set up a new eBay acc and buy them all?
graffitiprints reaction to the ebay flippers.. via instagram post why don't GP just set up a new eBay acc and buy them all? |
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Martin Whatson • Connection Print, by Aubrey 245 on Mar 31, 2018 14:01:03 GMT 1, I don't know. If the flippers thought about it a bit, they just don't sell with their real names.. So it's gon be hard for GP anyway.. But I like the approach.
I don't know. If the flippers thought about it a bit, they just don't sell with their real names.. So it's gon be hard for GP anyway.. But I like the approach.
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Martin Whatson • Connection Print, by Rouen Cathedral on Mar 31, 2018 14:12:20 GMT 1, Can't wait to see pictures of your haul.. We went 9/9 - All for clients
So forum gaurdians what's the forum policy on advertising bot services to cheat sales.
Can't wait to see pictures of your haul.. We went 9/9 - All for clients So forum gaurdians what's the forum policy on advertising bot services to cheat sales. |
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Martin Whatson • Connection Print, by chevyav53 on Mar 31, 2018 15:02:19 GMT 1, Ok so everyone who wants one at cost should buy up the remaining ones on eBay to get the sellers name and pass onto GP? sound like, yes.
What im curious on is how many of the people complaining actually wanted one and follow through but this is a smart way to further combat the flipping.
Ok so everyone who wants one at cost should buy up the remaining ones on eBay to get the sellers name and pass onto GP? sound like, yes. Ingenious, but still a gamble for the buyer. As some have mentioned could be a front account but not that easy to fake a name or from address in the USA. Also if shipping from eBay it ties to PayPal address, correct. What im curious on is how many of the people complaining actually wanted one and follow through but this is a smart way to further combat the flipping. |
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Martin Whatson • Connection Print, by Shagga on Mar 31, 2018 16:52:11 GMT 1, graffitiprints reaction to the ebay flippers.. via instagram post why don't GP just set up a new eBay acc and buy them all?
Have they done it?
Just did a eBay search for Martin Whatson Connection, and they're basically gone?!
What do people think?
graffitiprints reaction to the ebay flippers.. via instagram post why don't GP just set up a new eBay acc and buy them all? Have they done it? Just did a eBay search for Martin Whatson Connection, and they're basically gone?!
What do people think? |
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Martin Whatson • Connection Print, by quinn on Mar 31, 2018 17:17:09 GMT 1, why don't GP just set up a new eBay acc and buy them all? Have they done it? Just did a eBay search for Martin Whatson Connection, and they're basically gone?!
What do people think?
either that or the sellers have read this thread and removed them all from sale🙂
why don't GP just set up a new eBay acc and buy them all? Have they done it? Just did a eBay search for Martin Whatson Connection, and they're basically gone?!
What do people think? either that or the sellers have read this thread and removed them all from sale🙂 |
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Martin Whatson • Connection Print, by Redbirds on Mar 31, 2018 17:38:01 GMT 1, Have they done it? Just did a eBay search for Martin Whatson Connection, and they're basically gone?!
What do people think? either that or the sellers have read this thread and removed them all from sale🙂
I’d guess sellers waiting until in hand now -only 4 sold what’s GP announced -there was ton on eBay last night
Have they done it? Just did a eBay search for Martin Whatson Connection, and they're basically gone?!
What do people think? either that or the sellers have read this thread and removed them all from sale🙂 I’d guess sellers waiting until in hand now -only 4 sold what’s GP announced -there was ton on eBay last night |
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Martin Whatson • Connection Print, by Aubrey 245 on Mar 31, 2018 17:40:02 GMT 1, Probably removed.. GP should have bought them back without an Instagram announcement..
Probably removed.. GP should have bought them back without an Instagram announcement..
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Martin Whatson • Connection Print, by ToonKiller on Apr 1, 2018 4:02:48 GMT 1, graffitiprints reaction to the ebay flippers.. via instagram post why don't GP just set up a new eBay acc and buy them all?
Why is GP asking people do to something they can do themselves?
To keep fans of the art involved with the piece and keeps building the hype.
They could do time releases at any time if they really wanted the flipping stopped. But what business wants to actually stop having their prices driven up?
graffitiprints reaction to the ebay flippers.. via instagram post why don't GP just set up a new eBay acc and buy them all? Why is GP asking people do to something they can do themselves? To keep fans of the art involved with the piece and keeps building the hype. They could do time releases at any time if they really wanted the flipping stopped. But what business wants to actually stop having their prices driven up? |
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Martin Whatson • Connection Print, by Jaylove on Apr 1, 2018 4:25:53 GMT 1, why don't GP just set up a new eBay acc and buy them all? Why is GP asking people do to something they can do themselves? To keep fans of the art involved with the piece and keeps building the hype. They could do time releases at any time if they really wanted the flipping stopped. But what business wants to actually stop having their prices driven up?
why don't GP just set up a new eBay acc and buy them all? Why is GP asking people do to something they can do themselves? To keep fans of the art involved with the piece and keeps building the hype. They could do time releases at any time if they really wanted the flipping stopped. But what business wants to actually stop having their prices driven up? Agreed. There's an easy solution, but flippers help all involved really. Gives the artist more hype along with the gallery which will help them raise prices on future releases. Prices have slowly krept up from smaller, lesser known artists to the big ones. It's all about the $ which is fine. GP isn't a charity, but this frenzy could be easily stopped but cash is king. |
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Martin Whatson • Connection Print, by sneakersnart on Apr 1, 2018 4:58:29 GMT 1, This "issue" is not easily stopped. It takes a talented developer who has experience with this issue to try and stay ahead of the next wave of bot development. Majority's default solution is, "Just do a raffle / lotto!" That's a poor idea because it is possible and probably, the raffle will be tainted with hundreds-thousands of entries from the same source; leaving the average person's one or two entries with a fraction of a chance. Next solution is, "Timed release!" If you were an artist, why would you want to kill your own hype and value on the secondary markets? Next answer I see is, "Move away from Shopify!" Sure, then on releases the site can crash 10 seconds before due to all the traffic, and by the time you get the page to load, it'll be out of stock because bots will eat on the server. It's much more frustrating to stare at a blank white page and not even get to see it in stock.
"Flipping" is apart of any healthy market. That should be nobody's issue, because it is a reality. If you wanna stop "flipping", stop buying the art, kill the demand...you see where I'm going?
The more hyped these releases become, the more bots will come in. Maybe they need someone like me to help them from the inside...
This "issue" is not easily stopped. It takes a talented developer who has experience with this issue to try and stay ahead of the next wave of bot development. Majority's default solution is, "Just do a raffle / lotto!" That's a poor idea because it is possible and probably, the raffle will be tainted with hundreds-thousands of entries from the same source; leaving the average person's one or two entries with a fraction of a chance. Next solution is, "Timed release!" If you were an artist, why would you want to kill your own hype and value on the secondary markets? Next answer I see is, "Move away from Shopify!" Sure, then on releases the site can crash 10 seconds before due to all the traffic, and by the time you get the page to load, it'll be out of stock because bots will eat on the server. It's much more frustrating to stare at a blank white page and not even get to see it in stock. "Flipping" is apart of any healthy market. That should be nobody's issue, because it is a reality. If you wanna stop "flipping", stop buying the art, kill the demand...you see where I'm going? The more hyped these releases become, the more bots will come in. Maybe they need someone like me to help them from the inside... |
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Martin Whatson • Connection Print, by Jaylove on Apr 1, 2018 6:35:20 GMT 1, This "issue" is not easily stopped. It takes a talented developer who has experience with this issue to try and stay ahead of the next wave of bot development. Majority's default solution is, "Just do a raffle / lotto!" That's a poor idea because it is possible and probably, the raffle will be tainted with hundreds-thousands of entries from the same source; leaving the average person's one or two entries with a fraction of a chance. Next solution is, "Timed release!" If you were an artist, why would you want to kill your own hype and value on the secondary markets? Next answer I see is, "Move away from Shopify!" Sure, then on releases the site can crash 10 seconds before due to all the traffic, and by the time you get the page to load, it'll be out of stock because bots will eat on the server. It's much more frustrating to stare at a blank white page and not even get to see it in stock. "Flipping" is apart of any healthy market. That should be nobody's issue, because it is a reality. If you wanna stop "flipping", stop buying the art, kill the demand...you see where I'm going? The more hyped these releases become, the more bots will come in. Maybe they need someone like me to help them from the inside...
Flipping occurs when the demand greatly outweighs the supply. An easy solution would be creating bigger editions or raising the price. The problem is what is the true value of the art being sold here? Flippers sell the idea of the art seconds after buying. So people buy from someone who doesn't even have the item. That is insane to me. The price is high at first due to the frenzy, then it slowly goes back down. So flipping creates an unstable market. There are pieces that are selling for half the flipper/release price right now.
Short term seems great for all involved, but not so sure about longterm. I wouldn't call the market healthy though. It is artificially inflated IMO. There are other markets where this is occurring as well.
This "issue" is not easily stopped. It takes a talented developer who has experience with this issue to try and stay ahead of the next wave of bot development. Majority's default solution is, "Just do a raffle / lotto!" That's a poor idea because it is possible and probably, the raffle will be tainted with hundreds-thousands of entries from the same source; leaving the average person's one or two entries with a fraction of a chance. Next solution is, "Timed release!" If you were an artist, why would you want to kill your own hype and value on the secondary markets? Next answer I see is, "Move away from Shopify!" Sure, then on releases the site can crash 10 seconds before due to all the traffic, and by the time you get the page to load, it'll be out of stock because bots will eat on the server. It's much more frustrating to stare at a blank white page and not even get to see it in stock. "Flipping" is apart of any healthy market. That should be nobody's issue, because it is a reality. If you wanna stop "flipping", stop buying the art, kill the demand...you see where I'm going? The more hyped these releases become, the more bots will come in. Maybe they need someone like me to help them from the inside... Flipping occurs when the demand greatly outweighs the supply. An easy solution would be creating bigger editions or raising the price. The problem is what is the true value of the art being sold here? Flippers sell the idea of the art seconds after buying. So people buy from someone who doesn't even have the item. That is insane to me. The price is high at first due to the frenzy, then it slowly goes back down. So flipping creates an unstable market. There are pieces that are selling for half the flipper/release price right now. Short term seems great for all involved, but not so sure about longterm. I wouldn't call the market healthy though. It is artificially inflated IMO. There are other markets where this is occurring as well. |
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Martin Whatson • Connection Print, by Winks on Apr 1, 2018 8:13:46 GMT 1, This "issue" is not easily stopped. It takes a talented developer who has experience with this issue to try and stay ahead of the next wave of bot development. Majority's default solution is, "Just do a raffle / lotto!" That's a poor idea because it is possible and probably, the raffle will be tainted with hundreds-thousands of entries from the same source; leaving the average person's one or two entries with a fraction of a chance. Next solution is, "Timed release!" If you were an artist, why would you want to kill your own hype and value on the secondary markets? Next answer I see is, "Move away from Shopify!" Sure, then on releases the site can crash 10 seconds before due to all the traffic, and by the time you get the page to load, it'll be out of stock because bots will eat on the server. It's much more frustrating to stare at a blank white page and not even get to see it in stock. "Flipping" is apart of any healthy market. That should be nobody's issue, because it is a reality. If you wanna stop "flipping", stop buying the art, kill the demand...you see where I'm going? The more hyped these releases become, the more bots will come in. Maybe they need someone like me to help them from the inside...
This "issue" is not easily stopped. It takes a talented developer who has experience with this issue to try and stay ahead of the next wave of bot development. Majority's default solution is, "Just do a raffle / lotto!" That's a poor idea because it is possible and probably, the raffle will be tainted with hundreds-thousands of entries from the same source; leaving the average person's one or two entries with a fraction of a chance. Next solution is, "Timed release!" If you were an artist, why would you want to kill your own hype and value on the secondary markets? Next answer I see is, "Move away from Shopify!" Sure, then on releases the site can crash 10 seconds before due to all the traffic, and by the time you get the page to load, it'll be out of stock because bots will eat on the server. It's much more frustrating to stare at a blank white page and not even get to see it in stock. "Flipping" is apart of any healthy market. That should be nobody's issue, because it is a reality. If you wanna stop "flipping", stop buying the art, kill the demand...you see where I'm going? The more hyped these releases become, the more bots will come in. Maybe they need someone like me to help them from the inside... |
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Martin Whatson • Connection Print, by meloveart66 on Apr 1, 2018 13:50:32 GMT 1, One time you win one time you loose, this time i got lucky There's enough people who buy without using a bot and without flipping. Think the bots and flippers are over estimated.
Taking the flippers and bots out will not make the change bigger it will still be sold out in a few seconds/minutes and there will be still people dissapointed.
One time you win one time you loose, this time i got lucky There's enough people who buy without using a bot and without flipping. Think the bots and flippers are over estimated. Taking the flippers and bots out will not make the change bigger it will still be sold out in a few seconds/minutes and there will be still people dissapointed. |
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Martin Whatson • Connection Print, by bradk on Apr 1, 2018 23:24:11 GMT 1, Well deserved double sell out from Nuno Viegas - True gent & lovely guy and his works stunning!
One to watch IMO....
Well deserved double sell out from Nuno Viegas - True gent & lovely guy and his works stunning!
One to watch IMO....
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Martin Whatson • Connection Print, by davin550 on Apr 2, 2018 2:17:29 GMT 1, Do you guys think the acrylic editions are worth the money then? I managed to get one just had everything pre loaded. I think £1000 is ok of a Original edition of 10 Think it will look pretty cool framed with glass either side of the frame
Do you guys think the acrylic editions are worth the money then? I managed to get one just had everything pre loaded. I think £1000 is ok of a Original edition of 10 Think it will look pretty cool framed with glass either side of the frame I’m sure it is worth it (I think just about any Whatson at release price is) but I wouldn’t worry about it or how much. Just frame it and enjoy it. And enjoy the fact that you were one of the lucky few to score something so rare. |
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Martin Whatson • Connection Print, by lg2771 on Apr 2, 2018 2:28:35 GMT 1, Do you guys think the acrylic editions are worth the money then? I managed to get one just had everything pre loaded. I think £1000 is ok of a Original edition of 10 Think it will look pretty cool framed with glass either side of the frame
I have an acrylic kunstrasen and it looks terrific. I think acrylic looks great for everything.
Do you guys think the acrylic editions are worth the money then? I managed to get one just had everything pre loaded. I think £1000 is ok of a Original edition of 10 Think it will look pretty cool framed with glass either side of the frame I have an acrylic kunstrasen and it looks terrific. I think acrylic looks great for everything. |
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Martin Whatson • Connection Print, by lot21 on Apr 2, 2018 6:25:32 GMT 1, Whats with all the blabber about a better way an artist can do his own work. Think you're missing the point a little.
Whats with all the blabber about a better way an artist can do his own work. Think you're missing the point a little.
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Martin Whatson • Connection Print, by lot21 on Apr 2, 2018 6:30:22 GMT 1, agreed, he is one to watch. also a couple of cancelled sales popped up 24hr after
agreed, he is one to watch. also a couple of cancelled sales popped up 24hr after
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Martin Whatson • Connection Print, by robalb on Apr 6, 2018 7:32:45 GMT 1, Do you guys think the acrylic editions are worth the money then? I managed to get one just had everything pre loaded. I think £1000 is ok of a Original edition of 10 Think it will look pretty cool framed with glass either side of the frame
I have a kunstrasen “it’s what you make of it” acryic and do like the medium. I do get a lot of light reflection from it though.
Do you guys think the acrylic editions are worth the money then? I managed to get one just had everything pre loaded. I think £1000 is ok of a Original edition of 10 Think it will look pretty cool framed with glass either side of the frame I have a kunstrasen “it’s what you make of it” acryic and do like the medium. I do get a lot of light reflection from it though. |
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Martin Whatson • Connection Print, by robalb on Apr 6, 2018 13:28:38 GMT 1, Having a great day.
Postman has just delivered HF Connection! It looks great.
Need to get it of to the framers so I can start to enjoy!
I am based in the UK.
Having a great day.
Postman has just delivered HF Connection! It looks great.
Need to get it of to the framers so I can start to enjoy!
I am based in the UK.
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Martin Whatson • Connection Print, by robalb on Apr 6, 2018 14:01:28 GMT 1, Do you guys think the acrylic editions are worth the money then? I managed to get one just had everything pre loaded. I think £1000 is ok of a Original edition of 10 Think it will look pretty cool framed with glass either side of the frame I have a kunstrasen “it’s what you make of it” acryic and do like the medium. I do get a lot of light reflection from it though.
Which colour did you get? The white / light grey acrylic would have been my preferred choice.
Are you UK based? I may be willing to trade the Hand Finished edition plus cash if your suffering from buyers remorse or just prefer a 'print' that will not require a custom frame to mount it!
Do you guys think the acrylic editions are worth the money then? I managed to get one just had everything pre loaded. I think £1000 is ok of a Original edition of 10 Think it will look pretty cool framed with glass either side of the frame I have a kunstrasen “it’s what you make of it” acryic and do like the medium. I do get a lot of light reflection from it though. Hi Loveabitofart, Which colour did you get? The white / light grey acrylic would have been my preferred choice. Are you UK based? I may be willing to trade the Hand Finished edition plus cash if your suffering from buyers remorse or just prefer a 'print' that will not require a custom frame to mount it! |
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