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Mar 20, 2018 0:22:20 GMT 1 nex said:

Mar 19, 2018 19:06:21 GMT 1 Romulus said:

Whip mural confirmed on Instagram

http://instagr.am/p/Bgg6HUEDMCk

http://instagr.am/p/Bgg6OuzDoVH

This piece is wonderful - a perfect example of presenting a multi layered message using your surrounding and easily understood imagery.

Capitalism thrives on indefinite growth, it makes slaves all of us, pushing us forward with no care for anything more than the bottom line. Inequality increases and we’re all just running to stay ahead of the pain that’s coming.

If banksy ever did a range of butt plugs...first in line.

[iamzero]

Oh the sweet irony of the anti capitalist message while we all chase Banksy artwork for thousands and pounds.

[Aubrey 245]

I like it - huge, beautiful piece, great message, gentrification is a huge problem in every metropolis for young, large families as well as older people. Sure, the chosen wall might look a bit random, but there probably will arise a new building soon anyway and cover it. Great piece!

[Reader]

Mar 20, 2018 8:46:31 GMT 1 iamzero said:

Oh the sweet irony of the anti capitalist message while we all chase Banksy artwork for thousands and pounds.

Spoken like a true Tory

[fac51]

Mar 20, 2018 8:46:31 GMT 1 iamzero said:

Oh the sweet irony of the anti capitalist message while we all chase Banksy artwork for thousands and pounds.

Well said...the man's a hypocrite..

[fac51]

Mar 20, 2018 9:04:53 GMT 1 fac51 said:

Mar 20, 2018 8:46:31 GMT 1 iamzero said:

Oh the sweet irony of the anti capitalist message while we all chase Banksy artwork for thousands and pounds.

Well said...the man's a hypocrite..

or men

[fac51]

Mar 20, 2018 9:06:19 GMT 1 fac51 said:

Mar 20, 2018 9:04:53 GMT 1 fac51 said:

Well said...the man's a hypocrite..

or men

or men and women..

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Mar 20, 2018 9:04:53 GMT 1 fac51 said:

Mar 20, 2018 8:46:31 GMT 1 iamzero said:

Oh the sweet irony of the anti capitalist message while we all chase Banksy artwork for thousands and pounds.

Well said...the man's a hypocrite..

really?  Why is he?

[iamzero]

Mar 20, 2018 8:56:01 GMT 1 Reader said:

Mar 20, 2018 8:46:31 GMT 1 iamzero said:

Oh the sweet irony of the anti capitalist message while we all chase Banksy artwork for thousands and pounds.

Spoken like a true Tory

And defended by a champagne socialist.

[northfaced]

I went to this one on Saturday and must say, the placement of the piece is pretty perfect. Take the drive over to it; $1Mil home, $1Mil home, $1Mil home...blocks and blocks of mansions and perfect landscaped driveways filled with luxury cars. Then you get to Coney Island Ave. and it looks like a ghetto in comparison. Even the direction the developer is facing follows the path they are driving people from the rich/mansions towards the "ghetto" area. That exact cross street is the dividing line. Going neighborhood to neighborhood really proves this. Just follow Avenue I to get the picture. It kind of blew my mind to see a destroyed gas station literally a street from million dollar homes.

My 2c

[Hairbland]

Mar 19, 2018 22:19:06 GMT 1 Rouen Cathedral said:

Mar 19, 2018 21:05:47 GMT 1 Pysgod said:

Don't forget this is pure vandalism ! 

The mayor of New York would give anything to catch Banksy after the BOTI stunt so I bet it's squeaky bum time for him everytime he goes out to get up. not easy

I don't think the mayor cares. If they wanted to catch banksy I'm pretty sure they could.

. Different mayor from last time.

[Hairbland]

Mar 19, 2018 21:26:20 GMT 1 Pysgod said:

Mar 19, 2018 21:05:25 GMT 1 iamzero said:

Case in point. The detail yet simplicity of Nola is pure class whereas the arrow whip of the latest offering just looks awkward. I like the idea but the presentation of it is poor by Banksy standards.

How do you do such large pieces without getting caught ?   Tip of the graph has to be about 15ft high !  and probably done in the middle of the night.

. They do it during the day, with proper work coveralls, looking as if they belong there. They prefer to not work at night, as that is when one is more likely to be caught.

[Hairbland]

Mar 19, 2018 20:21:09 GMT 1 Art! said:

Mar 19, 2018 20:12:33 GMT 1 iamzero said:

I think it’s more of a critique of the execution of them. Not up to his usual high standards.

But he's always had simple black and white pieces..

I like this one.  Main guy looks like a developer (with the hard hat) who's driving housing prices up, and people who can't afford it out of the neighborhood.

edit: and now that I read the sign in the upper left corner, makes even more sense.

Developer looks like Trump, who has been trumpeting the stock market loudly. Trump's father razed much of the original Coney Island amusement park to build apartment complexes.

[Rouen Cathedral]

Mar 20, 2018 11:58:57 GMT 1 northfaced said:

I went to this one on Saturday and must say, the placement of the piece is pretty perfect. Take the drive over to it; $1Mil home, $1Mil home, $1Mil home...blocks and blocks of mansions and perfect landscaped driveways filled with luxury cars. Then you get to Coney Island Ave. and it looks like a ghetto in comparison. Even the direction the developer is facing follows the path they are driving people from the rich/mansions towards the "ghetto" area. That exact cross street is the dividing line. Going neighborhood to neighborhood really proves this. Just follow Avenue I to get the picture. It kind of blew my mind to see a destroyed gas station literally a street from million dollar homes.

My 2c

Not sure what you are talking about Coney island Ave being a dividing line. There's got to be about 100 homes for sale at 1+ million in a 2 mile radius from the piece in every direction.

[Hairbland]

Mar 20, 2018 12:19:24 GMT 1 Rouen Cathedral said:

Mar 20, 2018 11:58:57 GMT 1 northfaced said:

I went to this one on Saturday and must say, the placement of the piece is pretty perfect. Take the drive over to it; $1Mil home, $1Mil home, $1Mil home...blocks and blocks of mansions and perfect landscaped driveways filled with luxury cars. Then you get to Coney Island Ave. and it looks like a ghetto in comparison. Even the direction the developer is facing follows the path they are driving people from the rich/mansions towards the "ghetto" area. That exact cross street is the dividing line. Going neighborhood to neighborhood really proves this. Just follow Avenue I to get the picture. It kind of blew my mind to see a destroyed gas station literally a street from million dollar homes.

My 2c

Not sure what you are talking about Coney island Ave being a dividing line. There's got to be about 100 homes for sale at 1+ million in a 2 mile radius from the piece in every direction.

I live in Brooklyn, while Northfaced might be a bit literal in interpretation (yet art is what we see) I can vouch that Coney Island Ave is a pit.

[Wearology]

Mar 20, 2018 4:25:48 GMT 1 nex said:

Mar 20, 2018 2:02:10 GMT 1 Wearology said:

My momma told me if I have nothing nice to say to just keep my mouth shut - but I can't bite my tongue on Banksy's 2 day soiree through NYC any longer. All the images were weak in message, weaker in execution, the placements were lazy, safe and predictable and the messages were all said before and seemed recycled.
On a scale of 0 - 5 spray cans with 5 being the best - I give Banksy's NYC 48 hour publicity tour of 2018
1.5 spray cans.

Here’s the thing it’s possible to discuss the same themes again and again, if youve new ways of putting it and the message is still relevant

Given art can grades
... not so much

As I get older - I become more bitter and cynical.  It seems that when a struggling street artist makes fun of capitalism on a public wall - it holds a message of power to the people - but when an uber wealthy established artist who flies around the world on daily painting jaunts publicly criticizes capitalism it falls a bit short.  Its like a politician tagging the White House and saying politicians have too much power.  Sometimes it is hard to separate the message from the messenger -    

[kbfrombk]

Mar 20, 2018 12:26:33 GMT 1 Hairbland said:

Mar 20, 2018 12:19:24 GMT 1 Rouen Cathedral said:

Not sure what you are talking about Coney island Ave being a dividing line. There's got to be about 100 homes for sale at 1+ million in a 2 mile radius from the piece in every direction.

I live in Brooklyn, while Northfaced might be a bit literal in interpretation (yet art is what we see) I can vouch that Coney Island Ave is a pit.

[sore spot alert]

How is CIA a pit? 

C'mon.

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Mar 20, 2018 13:13:46 GMT 1 Wearology said:

Mar 20, 2018 4:25:48 GMT 1 nex said:

Here’s the thing it’s possible to discuss the same themes again and again, if youve new ways of putting it and the message is still relevant

Given art can grades
... not so much

As I get older - I become more bitter and cynical.  It seems that when a struggling street artist makes fun of capitalism on a public wall - it holds a message of power to the people - but when an uber wealthy established artist who flies around the world on daily painting jaunts publicly criticizes capitalism it falls a bit short.  Its like a politician tagging the White House and saying politicians have too much power.  Sometimes it is hard to separate the message from the messenger -    

It’s an interesting point that you raise. I would argue that we need more politicians saying that they hold too much power (although unlikely).
The louder the voice the stronger the message. I think Banksy’s stature gives a lot more visibility to the affects of gentrification on neighborhoods than had this been someone else. He has also had a history of drawing attention to issues of human displacement. I don’t believe that wealth, success, or power should be an immediate disqualifier for giving voice to issues like these.

[Rouen Cathedral]

Mar 20, 2018 13:29:41 GMT 1 @augustg said:

Mar 20, 2018 13:13:46 GMT 1 Wearology said:

As I get older - I become more bitter and cynical.  It seems that when a struggling street artist makes fun of capitalism on a public wall - it holds a message of power to the people - but when an uber wealthy established artist who flies around the world on daily painting jaunts publicly criticizes capitalism it falls a bit short.  Its like a politician tagging the White House and saying politicians have too much power.  Sometimes it is hard to separate the message from the messenger -    

It’s an interesting point that you raise. I would argue that we need more politicians saying that they hold too much power (although unlikely).
The louder the voice the stronger the message. I think Banksy’s stature gives a lot more visibility to the affects of gentrification on neighborhoods than had this been someone else. He has also had a history of drawing attention to issues of human displacement. I don’t believe that wealth, success, or power should be an immediate disqualifier for giving voice to issues like these.

Once again this is fine from a 1000 foot view. But banksy is best known for his precision and placement. This work falls face down in the dirt in that regards.

It would be like him having sprayed Nola in Jacksonville.

[Wearology]

Mar 20, 2018 14:02:08 GMT 1 Rouen Cathedral said:

Mar 20, 2018 13:29:41 GMT 1 @augustg said:

It’s an interesting point that you raise. I would argue that we need more politicians saying that they hold too much power (although unlikely).
The louder the voice the stronger the message. I think Banksy’s stature gives a lot more visibility to the affects of gentrification on neighborhoods than had this been someone else. He has also had a history of drawing attention to issues of human displacement. I don’t believe that wealth, success, or power should be an immediate disqualifier for giving voice to issues like these.

Once again this is fine from a 1000 foot view. But banksy is best known for his precision and placement. This work falls face down in the dirt in that regards.

It would be like him having sprayed Nola in Jacksonville.

You said exactly what I was trying to say but couldn't convey my message properly.  All the imagery and messaging seems like someone who is out of touch with their intended audience and comes off wrong.  It's like a guy in his 50's breakdancing or a woman in the 60's wearing a micro mini skirt.  

[jimbofatz]

A glaring problem with these pieces are that they are obviously cut, designed and applied by different folks-- there is no continuity with these pieces whatsoever. It's like an art student handing in three very different pieces under the same name. It's very glaring in this set done over one weekend. The only thing these pieces have in common is an Instagram account.

Age old argument on this board but by this point we've all seen enough Banksy work to notice it. Banksy is in need of a redesign as a project.

[Rouen Cathedral]

Mar 20, 2018 14:42:56 GMT 1 god’s ultimate noise said:

Mar 18, 2018 22:37:15 GMT 1 jimbofatz said:

... His audience is now relatively small and with no support from MAJOR museums or a gallery representing him... 

Lols aplenty at ‘no support’. He chooses not to work with galleries and museums, not the other way round.

Can you share the information you have? What large gallery museums have he turned down?

[chevyav53]

I think he’d also be more appreciated if we knew what he actually did with his millions he’s supposed to be worth. Does he do any charitable events or work besides donating a piece here or there or is it just graffiti?

In this day and age I don’t think pieces such as those in NY mean much. People see enough political propaganda on social media..... it’s cool for a minute people take pictures and move on. They’d react the same if Fairey, Kaws or someone else known tagged the wall.

[jp]

Mar 20, 2018 13:13:46 GMT 1 Wearology said:

Mar 20, 2018 4:25:48 GMT 1 nex said:

Here’s the thing it’s possible to discuss the same themes again and again, if youve new ways of putting it and the message is still relevant

Given art can grades
... not so much

As I get older - I become more bitter and cynical.  It seems that when a struggling street artist makes fun of capitalism on a public wall - it holds a message of power to the people - but when an uber wealthy established artist who flies around the world on daily painting jaunts publicly criticizes capitalism it falls a bit short.  Its like a politician tagging the White House and saying politicians have too much power.  Sometimes it is hard to separate the message from the messenger -    

Stop and think about what you are saying here. "when a struggling street artist makes fun of capitalism on a public wall - it holds a message of power to the people".

Now go back and look through Wall and Piece. Banksy was indeed a struggling street artist making fun of capitalism on public walls. And he was so good at it that he became an iconic street artist, and it made him wealthy. So now he is not allowed to spread the same message? Please tell us how much money a street artist is allowed to earn before they get put out to pasture.

[Rouen Cathedral]

Mar 20, 2018 20:42:56 GMT 1 jp said:

Mar 20, 2018 13:13:46 GMT 1 Wearology said:

As I get older - I become more bitter and cynical.  It seems that when a struggling street artist makes fun of capitalism on a public wall - it holds a message of power to the people - but when an uber wealthy established artist who flies around the world on daily painting jaunts publicly criticizes capitalism it falls a bit short.  Its like a politician tagging the White House and saying politicians have too much power.  Sometimes it is hard to separate the message from the messenger -    

Stop and think about what you are saying here. "when a struggling street artist makes fun of capitalism on a public wall - it holds a message of power to the people".

Now go back and look through Wall and Piece. Banksy was indeed a struggling street artist making fun of capitalism on public walls. And he was so good at it that he became an iconic street artist, and it made him wealthy. So now he is not allowed to spread the same message? Please tell us how much money a street artist is allowed to earn before they get put out to pasture.

The problem is you still think banksy is a street artist a la his early works.

[jimbofatz]

I heard rumors Banksy is now taking commissions to create art on high priced New York City real estate that isn't selling. Even more lucrative than the art world.

[Pysgod]

Mar 20, 2018 22:07:09 GMT 1 jimbofatz said:

I heard rumors Banksy is now taking commissions to create art on high priced New York City real estate that isn't selling. Even more lucrative than the the art world.

Sex sells.......and so does Banksy.

[butterknife]

Jeffery Deitch use Banksy or Banksy use Jeffery Deitch?

[The Origin]

CONFIRMED BANKSY

http://instagram.com/p/Bgj0ZUGl3f4

[Arty Farty 15]

Mar 20, 2018 22:07:09 GMT 1 jimbofatz said:

I heard rumors Banksy is now taking commissions to create art on high priced New York City real estate that isn't selling. Even more lucrative than the art world.

Yea someone confirmed this to me a few months ago. I was told the Barbican mural was six figures, money well spent by them considering the extra press it gave the exhibition.