[monkeypuzzle]

manchestermike said:

Does anyone know what signed Golf Sales are going on eBay for please?

The last one was in the region of 3.6K mike, about a month ago from memory, 2 have come and gone since without selling / running the course, one on the bay at the mo for 2750.

[manchestermike]

monkeypuzzle said:

manchestermike said:

Does anyone know what signed Golf Sales are going on eBay for please?

The last one was in the region of 3.6K mike, about a month ago from memory, 2 have come and gone since without selling / running the course, one on the bay at the mo for 2750.

Thanks MP ;D

[finsburyparkranger]

Looks like someone could be getting a bargain with only 20 mins to go....

cgi.ebay.co.uk/BANKSY-No-57-OF-150-SIGNED-GOLF-SALE_W0QQitemZ130095607361QQcategoryZ360QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

[ThursdayFeeling]

Anyone got a spare £3,000+ lying around.

It would kill my credit card

Just had a little punt to £3,250........then got frightened I'd be the highest bidder

[stuey09]

Yeah, but stand by for the flying elbows in the last 2 minutes FPR

[ThursdayFeeling]

What do we think it will go for ?

The bids are increments of £100.......I recon £4,500

[stuey09]

3700 give or take ...

[ThursdayFeeling]

stuey09 said:

3700 give or take ...

Is that still cheap ?

[stuey09]

Not on my salary Thursday ;D

[stuey09]

3350.00 Not bad. A great start to the Bank Holiday for someone.

[ThursdayFeeling]

stuey09 said:

Not on my salary Thursday ;D

Not on my salary either.........would have maxed my credit card, so glad someone bid above the £3,250 I tried. Makes me feel better knowing I would have had to go bid twice more given the £100 increments..........I was sweating at the £3,250, probably would have passed out at £3,350.

If I'd won I'd be selling my "Grannies".......on eBay, 100% original, 78 years old and they can knit you a nice scarf if you place your orders in quick

[Viva Hate]

Yeah I am thinking of selling a few prints to buy a signed. Any recommendations on what signed to go for and what the average price range is?.

I do like the look of a pulp fiction or napalm signed?...How much would they be?

[numusic]

ianneedshelp said:

Anyone got a spare £3,000+ lying around.

It would kill my credit card

Just had a little punt to £3,250........then got frightened I'd be the highest bidder

ha ha, did the same on 3000 :-) pretty happy I diodn't win ! would have killed me.

[manchestermike]

coventry said:

Yeah I am thinking of selling a few prints to buy a signed. Any recommendations on what signed to go for and what the average price range is?.

I do like the look of a pulp fiction or napalm signed?...How much would they be?

For some reason Grin Reaper always seems to go for less than many others - one of Banksy's best works and criminally under priced - get one while you can

[Viva Hate]

manchestermike said:

coventry said:

Yeah I am thinking of selling a few prints to buy a signed. Any recommendations on what signed to go for and what the average price range is?.

I do like the look of a pulp fiction or napalm signed?...How much would they be?

For some reason Grin Reaper always seems to go for less than many others - one of Banksy's best works and criminally under priced - get one while you can

Manchester Mike-how much are we talking for one £3000?
What about a signed pulp fiction or napalm?

[stuey09]

Grin Reaper is one of my favourites. Don't think I can remember seeing one for a while. There's a great one in the Get Your Banksy's out (on one of the early pages I think)

[stuey09]

coventry said:

manchestermike said:

For some reason Grin Reaper always seems to go for less than many others - one of Banksy's best works and criminally under priced - get one while you can

Manchester Mike-how much are we talking for one £3000?
What about a signed pulp fiction or napalm?

Theres a signed Napalm up at the moment for over 4k

[monkeypuzzle]

Yup an outstanding print, different class for quality, detail and sheer blackness of the colour black on it. Took ages to sell out and even sold at a loss for a while after £400 from POW, 375 on ebay, its starting to be recognised as a developing classic now, doubt very much if you would get one for less than 5K ( considering signed applauses are seeing 4.5K). A print that the term art-wood was invented for

[numusic]

coventry said:

manchestermike said:

For some reason Grin Reaper always seems to go for less than many others - one of Banksy's best works and criminally under priced - get one while you can

Manchester Mike-how much are we talking for one £3000?
What about a signed pulp fiction or napalm?

5 to 6k

[manchestermike]

coventry said:

manchestermike said:

For some reason Grin Reaper always seems to go for less than many others - one of Banksy's best works and criminally under priced - get one while you can

Manchester Mike-how much are we talking for one £3000?
What about a signed pulp fiction or napalm?

They were going for not much more than 3k not long ago, but as monkeypuzzle said, that was before the madness got madder - it'll be very interesting to see what the next one goes for... in the current climate I think under 5k would be something of a bargain (did I really just say that??? )

[Viva Hate]

Cheers, dont think my overdraft is that big, oh well onwards and upwards

[bristolmassive]

just when I was thinking of taking the plunge I haven't seen a flying copper or a reaper for quite a while.
Before christmas there quite a few floating about....but that was then and this as we all know is now

[finsburyparkranger]

Grin reaper is an edition of 300 signed. Flying copper and golf sale is an edition of 150 signed. Just something to bear in mind. What I want to know is in the future how will a pencil signature compare to a pen signature in regards to the price? I would imagine it could make hundreds of pounds of difference one day. Anyone got any thoughts?

[tadghostal]

finsburyparkranger said:

Grin reaper is an edition of 300 signed. Flying copper and golf sale is an edition of 150 signed. Just something to bear in mind. What I want to know is in the future how will a pencil signature compare to a pen signature in regards to the price? I would imagine it could make hundreds of pounds of difference one day. Anyone got any thoughts?

Yeah, I've got a few. I think the pen signatures are going to be worth less than the pencil signatures simply because of the volatile nature of modern inks. Nobody really knows just how long they'll remain clearly visible, and you'll most certainly begin to see them begin breaking down at some point in the future. On the flip side, graphite has been around since the dawn of time and pencil lead is comprised of wholly stable elements. The paper will disintegrate before the pencil signatures suffer any degradation, and that is, I suspect, why the vast majority of artists sign their works using either paint or pencil. Not sure how many people share my point of view, but frankly, I wouldn't pay extra for a print with an ink signature because it introduces just one more element of the unknown--and that's an unwanted layer of risk. I'd rather avoid the issue altogether.

Personally, I think you've missed a key point in comparing the GR to a FC and GS, and that is total run size. Think about it. There are 750 Flying Coppers out there (one is looking over my shoulder as we speak ), and the same number of Golf Sales. That means you've got 150 chances to grab a signed, and 600 chances to grab an unsigned. This is a big deal! It goes to the simple matter of supply and demand. All of those folks who would love to own a GR but could care less about the signature if it meant they could pay 25% the price of a signed (like me) have no choice in the matter. There is only one option. Hence the supply is dramatically reduced (at least by half in comparison to nearly all other prints--and it is less than one third the total of all Morons images!), and given the broad appeal of the image, I don't see the demand going anywhere but up.

Imagine GR being similar to the other prints you mentioned, and assume at least 150 people absolutely must have a signed copy--then instead of 600 available for everybody else, there are only 150. Because the entire run is so small, all of them are signed and you'll likely *never* run into another friend or acquaintance that's got one, this print actually is much closer to the multi-color variants of the soupcans. There you have a run of 250 total (for all the colorways), and all of them are signed--with no unsigned. With only 300 total images (compared to most runs with 650 or greater in the total run), the finest production of any banksy print (so I'm told), and an image that is generally held as one of the best ever, I think GR will end up being one of the most difficult prints to obtain. Simply because it *does* generate so much art wood, and many if not most have already found permanent homes at this point in time. And think about it--you're NEVER going to see an unsigned GR. A simple glance across the room, and you know you are looking at something very special. Can you tell I absolutely love that print?!

Anyways, my point is, I think GR should really not be used as a reference for the value of other prints. Anybody who has genuinely tried to track one down will agree that the process is next to impossible, whereas most other prints from 2004 and later pop up with relative regularity.

But then again, that's just my opinion. Your actual mileage may vary.

[goffy]

Bloody hell, that's some thought!

[Strange Al]

tad - you're obviously a very big fan of the Grin image. I'd be interested to hear what it is about the image that strikes a chord with you (aside from the quality of the printing and its rarity).

I appreciate that it's a classic Banksy image. I think Mr Hirst has ensured that. Though, I passed up on it when it was readily available and it's not something I particularly regret. The image just doesn't evoke much emotion in me. Perhaps you can change my view.

Slightly off-topic I know. Maybe cause for a new thread - "Tad's musings on the Grin"

[dotdot]

for what its worth I'd have to say.. GS is one fine image - one
which though may not mean too much from the sign
perspective (do you see golf sale plaks in the US ?)
sure does underline a message in relation to the land of china.

Mr B - has a bee in his bonnet attacking both consumerism - and
also the fact that capitalism will put up with the brutality of china as
long as it gives it... of course product.

The sting from this print is apt appropriate and will age nicely - if only I'd won earlier..

..anyone got a GS they'd wish to sell / swap...

[tomhills1]

stuey09 said:

Grin Reaper is one of my favourites. Don't think I can remember seeing one for a while. There's a great one in the Get Your Banksy's out (on one of the early pages I think)

did you mean mine? ;D





no?

[paulah]

Oh now you're just gloating!

I've been after a GR for a few months now, elusive little b*ggers!!

[tomhills1]

jjoschi44 said:

tad - you're obviously a very big fan of the Grin image. I'd be interested to hear what it is about the image that strikes a chord with you (aside from the quality of the printing and its rarity).

I appreciate that it's a classic Banksy image. I think Mr Hirst has ensured that. Though, I passed up on it when it was readily available and it's not something I particularly regret. The image just doesn't evoke much emotion in me. Perhaps you can change my view.

Slightly off-topic I know. Maybe cause for a new thread - "Tad's musings on the Grin"

for me, the image represents out with the old, in with the new. this has been mused quite a bit previously, with some saying that it is a nod to the past; HND, flying copper. also the end of banksy as a purely street artist.

personally, my love for it is less symbolic. i have always loved street work with intricasies, they appeal because you know the artist has had to take their time whilst also taking a risk. this image, along with the kind of tatoos you see on LA and yakuza gangs also do it for me. there is some element of a tatooists detail in the print, so it was no surprise to me when mr hurst's brother decided to scar himself with this image.

oh, and tadghostal: every word you said is spot on for me.