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Banksy Morons Print, by Lord Lucas Roham on Feb 3, 2023 23:46:04 GMT 1, Are people seriously asking Covid prices for Banksys?
It's frustrating because I'm experiencing the same expectations in the watch markets.
Prices are generally down 40% yet sellers are still expecting top dollar.
There is a MASSIVE gulf between what's being asked and what's being paid.
With that said I'd be happy with 40-44k on this. Cash in the bank.
Are people seriously asking Covid prices for Banksys?
It's frustrating because I'm experiencing the same expectations in the watch markets.
Prices are generally down 40% yet sellers are still expecting top dollar.
There is a MASSIVE gulf between what's being asked and what's being paid.
With that said I'd be happy with 40-44k on this. Cash in the bank.
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Banksy Morons Print, by jp on Feb 4, 2023 1:47:39 GMT 1, If you really need to sell it I would put it in the April Sothebys Auction. You will likely get the highest auction result for this print with them. Don't forget to negotiate your sellers fee.
If you really need to sell it I would put it in the April Sothebys Auction. You will likely get the highest auction result for this print with them. Don't forget to negotiate your sellers fee. |
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Banksy Morons Print, by drbf on Feb 4, 2023 2:08:37 GMT 1, I am surprised to see such a price discrepancy between this example and the sepia. There isn’t , both aren’t worth much
I am surprised to see such a price discrepancy between this example and the sepia. There isn’t , both aren’t worth much The signed sepia commands a higher price. |
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Banksy Morons Print, by Adam The Collector on Feb 4, 2023 2:51:14 GMT 1, There isn’t , both aren’t worth much The signed sepia commands a higher price.
There isn’t , both aren’t worth much The signed sepia commands a higher price. Yes, one just sold at sothebys for 100k+ usd. Arn't worth much? I wish I had half of your wealth |
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Banksy Morons Print, by jp on Feb 4, 2023 3:49:28 GMT 1, There isn’t , both aren’t worth much The signed sepia commands a higher price.
That said, highest auction result for *any* regular edition signed Morons print I can see is for B&W, 101/150, 30/03/21, International Art Centre, GBP 130,400 all in.
There isn’t , both aren’t worth much The signed sepia commands a higher price. It's difficult to compare them directly, since there are twice as many of the Sepia as the B&W signed, and few auction results for B&W. Few results mean less confidence, as timing, condition, and auction house are other important variables. That said, highest auction result for *any* regular edition signed Morons print I can see is for B&W, 101/150, 30/03/21, International Art Centre, GBP 130,400 all in. |
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Banksy Morons Print, by High Contrast on Feb 4, 2023 9:22:31 GMT 1, The signed sepia commands a higher price. Yes, one just sold at sothebys for 100k+ usd. Arn't worth much? I wish I had half of your wealth
Not a reflection on what you’d actually get for it if you tried to sell it
The signed sepia commands a higher price. Yes, one just sold at sothebys for 100k+ usd. Arn't worth much? I wish I had half of your wealth That was a fluke result , like the Laugh Now unsigned that just sold. Not a reflection on what you’d actually get for it if you tried to sell it |
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Banksy Morons Print, by High Contrast on Feb 4, 2023 9:24:19 GMT 1, The signed sepia commands a higher price. It's difficult to compare them directly, since there are twice as many of the Sepia as the B&W signed, and few auction results for B&W. Few results mean less confidence, as timing, condition, and auction house are other important variables. That said, highest auction result for *any* regular edition signed Morons print I can see is for B&W, 101/150, 30/03/21, International Art Centre, GBP 130,400 all in.
It doesn’t mean if you try and sell now you’ll get £300k
You'll be lucky to get £100k
The signed sepia commands a higher price. It's difficult to compare them directly, since there are twice as many of the Sepia as the B&W signed, and few auction results for B&W. Few results mean less confidence, as timing, condition, and auction house are other important variables. That said, highest auction result for *any* regular edition signed Morons print I can see is for B&W, 101/150, 30/03/21, International Art Centre, GBP 130,400 all in. The highest for an unsigned GWB is £300k+ It doesn’t mean if you try and sell now you’ll get £300k You'll be lucky to get £100k |
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Banksy Morons Print, by JFCC on Feb 5, 2023 11:02:14 GMT 1, Very interesting debate, just because a piece gets a high price doesn't make it a fluke, it means it has more than two or three people who want it at that time. Prices fall due to economic trends, with the Art market falling and recovering quite often before the general economy. The first problem that is encountered is that there are not enough buyers with discretionary cash and so prices stabilise, which puts off more buyers and then they fall. Volume of buyers is key in a rising market hence why Forum etc are struggling with their tired Banksy Only format.
The peak of the market was 2021 as there was a lot of discretionary cash in investors and "would be" investors pockets and it created a bubble. The economy/market knew that there would be a price to pay for this ultimately and hence the decline began in late 2021 and 2022 as clever money moved away and liquidated assets (stocks as well as art). The market declined quickly as supply out stripped demand.
Currently we are seeing a little more positivity overall (stocks and collectables) but auction bidders are materially down on what is needed to make a difference and those that are buying are trying to play the downward market to be ready for the up tick!
So yes Morons is a great piece, sepia has always got slightly more than B&W, don't know what, I prefer B&W. The final 3 sales of last year averaged about £75k all done and since then we have seen an 8% fall, so it is probably sitting at £65k-70k in my opinion to a buyer at an auction or £75k - 80k in an optimistic gallery.
To sell it privately a fair price is always the mid point of what a buyer would receive (nobody should be paying any fees in this market to sell) and the all in price, so this is about £60k.
If you want £100k then those days will return but with the economic indicators pointing at Q4 before the start to the recovery I'd suggest you hold until late 2024 early 2025 if the historical charts are anything to go on!!
Just a view!!!
Very interesting debate, just because a piece gets a high price doesn't make it a fluke, it means it has more than two or three people who want it at that time. Prices fall due to economic trends, with the Art market falling and recovering quite often before the general economy. The first problem that is encountered is that there are not enough buyers with discretionary cash and so prices stabilise, which puts off more buyers and then they fall. Volume of buyers is key in a rising market hence why Forum etc are struggling with their tired Banksy Only format.
The peak of the market was 2021 as there was a lot of discretionary cash in investors and "would be" investors pockets and it created a bubble. The economy/market knew that there would be a price to pay for this ultimately and hence the decline began in late 2021 and 2022 as clever money moved away and liquidated assets (stocks as well as art). The market declined quickly as supply out stripped demand.
Currently we are seeing a little more positivity overall (stocks and collectables) but auction bidders are materially down on what is needed to make a difference and those that are buying are trying to play the downward market to be ready for the up tick!
So yes Morons is a great piece, sepia has always got slightly more than B&W, don't know what, I prefer B&W. The final 3 sales of last year averaged about £75k all done and since then we have seen an 8% fall, so it is probably sitting at £65k-70k in my opinion to a buyer at an auction or £75k - 80k in an optimistic gallery.
To sell it privately a fair price is always the mid point of what a buyer would receive (nobody should be paying any fees in this market to sell) and the all in price, so this is about £60k.
If you want £100k then those days will return but with the economic indicators pointing at Q4 before the start to the recovery I'd suggest you hold until late 2024 early 2025 if the historical charts are anything to go on!!
Just a view!!!
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Banksy Morons Print, by simmsax on Feb 14, 2023 15:48:55 GMT 1, One of Banksy's most iconic prints released released just prior to the art market crash in 2007.
The print is currently framed and in excellent condition and includes the original email printed invoice and COA from pest control. The print has lovely feathered edges with a well defined embossed stamp. The attached photo is from when it was fresh out of the portfolio case.
Similiar prints that you can see on Banksy-values.com in same excellent condition have been recently sold at Sothebys for £108k and £88k. This is a great investment for the rarity of the artwork from this very limited run.
i am selling reluctantly as my business has been hit badly and now need the money but otherwise would never be selling.
Happy to complete purchase due diligence as required in London or can help organise with global logistics.
One of Banksy's most iconic prints released released just prior to the art market crash in 2007. The print is currently framed and in excellent condition and includes the original email printed invoice and COA from pest control. The print has lovely feathered edges with a well defined embossed stamp. The attached photo is from when it was fresh out of the portfolio case. Similiar prints that you can see on Banksy-values.com in same excellent condition have been recently sold at Sothebys for £108k and £88k. This is a great investment for the rarity of the artwork from this very limited run. i am selling reluctantly as my business has been hit badly and now need the money but otherwise would never be selling. Happy to complete purchase due diligence as required in London or can help organise with global logistics. |
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Banksy Morons Print, by brookvale on Feb 14, 2023 16:25:51 GMT 1, I would have thought 50 was a good price in this market
I would have thought 50 was a good price in this market
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Banksy Morons Print, by LJCal on Feb 14, 2023 16:34:25 GMT 1, I would have thought 50 was a good price in this market
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Banksy Morons Print, by Adam The Collector on Feb 14, 2023 17:03:15 GMT 1, Is this a reverse auction?
Is this a reverse auction?
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Banksy Morons Print, by Galerie One on Feb 14, 2023 18:07:21 GMT 1, Prices are always very high
Prices are always very high
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Banksy Morons Print, by bolovski on Feb 10, 2024 18:35:27 GMT 1, Hi everyone,
I had a donuts print from original Banksy raffle I sold it in 2016 to help with house purchase. I am now thinking of buying a morons print to replace it as I prefer it.
This purchase would be more for the art itself.
I would like to hear from anyone considering selling.
I would also like to hear from knowledgeable people if there is any particular version of the morons print would be better to buy and why.
I might be looking for print I like but still looking for best value.
Tx Martin
Hi everyone,
I had a donuts print from original Banksy raffle I sold it in 2016 to help with house purchase. I am now thinking of buying a morons print to replace it as I prefer it.
This purchase would be more for the art itself.
I would like to hear from anyone considering selling.
I would also like to hear from knowledgeable people if there is any particular version of the morons print would be better to buy and why.
I might be looking for print I like but still looking for best value.
Tx Martin
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Banksy Morons Print, by Adam The Collector on Feb 10, 2024 22:05:42 GMT 1, Hi everyone, I had a donuts print from original Banksy raffle I sold it in 2016 to help with house purchase. I am now thinking of buying a morons print to replace it as I prefer it. This purchase would be more for the art itself. I would like to hear from anyone considering selling. I would also like to hear from knowledgeable people if there is any particular version of the morons print would be better to buy and why. I might be looking for print I like but still looking for best value. Tx Martin
Hi everyone, I had a donuts print from original Banksy raffle I sold it in 2016 to help with house purchase. I am now thinking of buying a morons print to replace it as I prefer it. This purchase would be more for the art itself. I would like to hear from anyone considering selling. I would also like to hear from knowledgeable people if there is any particular version of the morons print would be better to buy and why. I might be looking for print I like but still looking for best value. Tx Martin Definitely prefer sepia. But if signature doesn’t matter then I would go for an LA with the gold frame. |
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Banksy Morons Print, by met on Feb 10, 2024 23:23:30 GMT 1, Hi everyone, I had a donuts print from original Ban ksy raffle I sold it in 2016 to help with house purchase. I am now thinking of buying a morons print to replace it as I prefer it. This purchase would be more for the art itself. I would like to hear from anyone considering selling. I would also like to hear from knowledgeable people if there is any particular version of the morons print would be better to buy and why. I might be looking for print I like but still looking for best value. Tx Martin Definitely prefer sepia. But if signature doesn’t matter then I would go for an LA with the gold frame.
Don't forget the six sets of Modern Multiples printer's proofs from Los Angeles, which are all signed.
In addition to clarifying whether he or she prefers signed or unsigned, it may be helpful for us to have an idea of bolovski's budget.
Because, perhaps unsurprisingly, the most interesting Morons edition by Banksy also happens to be the most expensive.
In October 2020, the rather nice print below sold at the Phillips London* for over one million pounds sterling:
Hi everyone, I had a donuts print from original Ban ksy raffle I sold it in 2016 to help with house purchase. I am now thinking of buying a morons print to replace it as I prefer it. This purchase would be more for the art itself. I would like to hear from anyone considering selling. I would also like to hear from knowledgeable people if there is any particular version of the morons print would be better to buy and why. I might be looking for print I like but still looking for best value. Tx Martin Definitely prefer sepia. But if signature doesn’t matter then I would go for an LA with the gold frame. Don't forget the six sets of Modern Multiples printer's proofs from Los Angeles, which are all signed. In addition to clarifying whether he or she prefers signed or unsigned, it may be helpful for us to have an idea of bolovski's budget. Because, perhaps unsurprisingly, the most interesting Morons edition by Ban ksy also happens to be the most expensive. In October 2020, the rather nice print below sold at the Phil lips Lon don * for over one million pounds sterling: |
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Banksy Morons Print, by cemltz on Feb 10, 2024 23:47:24 GMT 1, Definitely prefer sepia. But if signature doesn’t matter then I would go for an LA with the gold frame. Don't forget the six sets of Modern Multiples printer's proofs from Los Angeles, which are all signed. In addition to clarifying whether he or she prefers signed or unsigned, it may be helpful for us to have an idea of bolovski 's budget. Because, perhaps unsurprisingly, the most interesting Morons edition by Ban ksy also happens to be the most expensive. In October 2020, the rather nice print below sold at the Phil lips Lon don * for over one million pounds sterling:
Met - clearly that auction was wonky. I mean, this Girl With Balloon sold for over one million pounds sterling. Edition of 8 that nobody has even heard of? Phillips up to their usual shenanigans.
Definitely prefer sepia. But if signature doesn’t matter then I would go for an LA with the gold frame. Don't forget the six sets of Modern Multiples printer's proofs from Los Angeles, which are all signed. In addition to clarifying whether he or she prefers signed or unsigned, it may be helpful for us to have an idea of bolovski 's budget. Because, perhaps unsurprisingly, the most interesting Morons edition by Ban ksy also happens to be the most expensive. In October 2020, the rather nice print below sold at the Phil lips Lon don * for over one million pounds sterling: Met - clearly that auction was wonky. I mean, this Girl With Balloon sold for over one million pounds sterling. Edition of 8 that nobody has even heard of? Phillips up to their usual shenanigans. |
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Banksy Morons Print, by LJCal on Feb 11, 2024 0:43:53 GMT 1, And the back of the print was ruined with all this spray paint!
And the back of the print was ruined with all this spray paint!
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Banksy Morons Print, by Deleted on Feb 11, 2024 5:07:23 GMT 1, Don't forget the six sets of Modern Multiples printer's proofs from Los Angeles, which are all signed. In addition to clarifying whether he or she prefers signed or unsigned, it may be helpful for us to have an idea of bolovski 's budget. Because, perhaps unsurprisingly, the most interesting Morons edition by Ban ksy also happens to be the most expensive. In October 2020, the rather nice print below sold at the Phil lips Lon don * for over one million pounds sterling: Met - clearly that auction was wonky. I mean, this Girl With Balloon sold for over one million pounds sterling. Edition of 8 that nobody has even heard of? Phillips up to their usual shenanigans.
There are also the AP colour and medium variants of Morons.
Best value for money Morons will be the best condition version at the best price for that version within your budget. Go for the one you enjoy most within your budget, that way you'll enjoy regardless of price sways over time that you have no control over.. Of course that may be one of the released versions for you, personal preference.
Don't forget the six sets of Modern Multiples printer's proofs from Los Angeles, which are all signed. In addition to clarifying whether he or she prefers signed or unsigned, it may be helpful for us to have an idea of bolovski 's budget. Because, perhaps unsurprisingly, the most interesting Morons edition by Ban ksy also happens to be the most expensive. In October 2020, the rather nice print below sold at the Phil lips Lon don * for over one million pounds sterling: Met - clearly that auction was wonky. I mean, this Girl With Balloon sold for over one million pounds sterling. Edition of 8 that nobody has even heard of? Phillips up to their usual shenanigans. Edition of 8 however there is at least 9. 8 as part of the edition 8, signed and edition number on the GWB side, no markings on the Moron side I know of. Then at least one extra which is the same but not marked as part of the edition 8. It was signed on both sides rather than the GWB side only, no edition number either side. Not a gift or marked outside the edition. Edition information on coa is 'From a series' for the extra(s). Some are sharper, some looser, some have lovely overspray spatters. Although landscape with more negative space than the print counterpart, the balance works very well with a smaller girl and more space between girl and balloon. Although it does have a morons print verso, it is an original GWB, the medium used is a Morons print. There are also the AP colour and medium variants of Morons. Best value for money Morons will be the best condition version at the best price for that version within your budget. Go for the one you enjoy most within your budget, that way you'll enjoy regardless of price sways over time that you have no control over.. Of course that may be one of the released versions for you, personal preference. |
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Banksy Morons Print, by bolovski on Feb 11, 2024 10:11:41 GMT 1,
Hi all,
Thanks for your replies they make interesting reading. My budget won’t stretch to the really rare editions though I would love one of the grey versions.
“Best value for money Morons will be the best condition version at the best price for that version within your budget”
Realistically a sepia or unsigned white is more my level.
This leads to wonder what are the advantages / disadvantages to signed or unsigned.
Would love to hear you thoughts.
Also does anyone have any idea what I would need to pay for these versions in the present market.
Thanks again.
Hi all,
Thanks for your replies they make interesting reading. My budget won’t stretch to the really rare editions though I would love one of the grey versions.
“Best value for money Morons will be the best condition version at the best price for that version within your budget”
Realistically a sepia or unsigned white is more my level.
This leads to wonder what are the advantages / disadvantages to signed or unsigned.
Would love to hear you thoughts.
Also does anyone have any idea what I would need to pay for these versions in the present market.
Thanks again.
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Banksy Morons Print, by eschiff on Feb 11, 2024 13:54:21 GMT 1, Hi all, Thanks for your replies they make interesting reading. My budget won’t stretch to the really rare editions though I would love one of the grey versions. “Best value for money Morons will be the best condition version at the best price for that version within your budget” Realistically a sepia or unsigned white is more my level. This leads to wonder what are the advantages / disadvantages to signed or unsigned. Would love to hear you thoughts. Also does anyone have any idea what I would need to pay for these versions in the present market. Thanks again.
Hi all, Thanks for your replies they make interesting reading. My budget won’t stretch to the really rare editions though I would love one of the grey versions. “Best value for money Morons will be the best condition version at the best price for that version within your budget” Realistically a sepia or unsigned white is more my level. This leads to wonder what are the advantages / disadvantages to signed or unsigned. Would love to hear you thoughts. Also does anyone have any idea what I would need to pay for these versions in the present market. Thanks again. I just bought (arrived last week) a signed Sepia Morons from a gallery (on consignment) for 35K GBP if that helps. |
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Banksy Morons Print, by Richy Rich on Feb 11, 2024 14:41:55 GMT 1, Fair art had one around £38k that got snapped up pretty quickly I think.
Fair art had one around £38k that got snapped up pretty quickly I think.
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Banksy Morons Print, by bolovski on Feb 11, 2024 17:39:41 GMT 1, Hi - Looking for a signed Morons- ideally unframed but will consider framed pieces.
Tx
Hi - Looking for a signed Morons- ideally unframed but will consider framed pieces.
Tx
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Banksy Morons Print, by Razor light on Feb 28, 2024 9:19:17 GMT 1, Hi Guys and Girls
hope your well
ideally after a
•Signed Toxic Mary
•Signed Morons
•Banksy™ Thrower (from Gross Domestic)
But if you have anything else signed give us a tinkle
Hi Guys and Girls
hope your well
ideally after a
•Signed Toxic Mary
•Signed Morons
•Banksy™ Thrower (from Gross Domestic)
But if you have anything else signed give us a tinkle
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Banksy Morons Print, by Pint of cockles on Mar 3, 2024 12:55:45 GMT 1, Hi everyone
looking to buy banksy unsigned print
if you selling please ping what you have and more importantly your price
thanks in advance
flexible and willing to travel (like a mudflap) h
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Banksy Morons Print, by Pint of cockles on Mar 3, 2024 18:42:33 GMT 1, Looking to buy unsigned Banksy morons happy choppers flying copper rude copper
Based in Essex can travel
Looking to buy unsigned Banksy morons happy choppers flying copper rude copper
Based in Essex can travel
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Banksy Morons Print, by Pint of cockles on Mar 5, 2024 21:05:18 GMT 1, Still looking if any motivated sellers please reach out
Still looking if any motivated sellers please reach out
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Banksy Morons Print, by keyser on Mar 5, 2024 21:37:39 GMT 1, Happy Chopper sold for £17/£18k including fees at Roseberys today. Not sure you’ll loose one free for much less than that privately at the moment. Most private owners seem to be holding tight and only dealers are active at the moment meaning a premium on everything
Happy Chopper sold for £17/£18k including fees at Roseberys today. Not sure you’ll loose one free for much less than that privately at the moment. Most private owners seem to be holding tight and only dealers are active at the moment meaning a premium on everything
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Banksy Morons Print, by Pint of cockles on Mar 5, 2024 21:50:28 GMT 1, Yes see them sales today the owners probably wait three months from entering them in and finally getting paid and would be lucky to come away with 10 or 11k
I can offer a straight forward same day money if sellers are realistic on the prices
Yes see them sales today the owners probably wait three months from entering them in and finally getting paid and would be lucky to come away with 10 or 11k
I can offer a straight forward same day money if sellers are realistic on the prices
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