Banksy • Turf War Print • 2003

[Trevorm]

I've just picked up another one that has a COA so the one in the photo is up for grabs.

It's from about 2004 and came to me via an established member on here a couple of years ago. The print had been handled quite a bit but doesn't appear to have been framed before. I've attended to the light handling marks by successfully flattening it. There are no tape marks and neither are there any WCP stamps en verso. I provided my mate Chris the framer with the black box frame and he duly obliged by cutting the mount and putting it all together.

I'm in South London and happy drop it off within a reasonable distance - I'm also mentally capable of coping with all forms of pm's. If somebody out there is after an iconic print for the wall for the fraction of the price of a real one let me know.

[pippyt75]

Top seller, top biscuits! 😉. Ive seen this and looks grand. GLWTS

[Trevorm]

Thanks Phil - Just back off regarding the biscuits!!!!!! Haha

[saint]

Backdoor print I assume.

EDIT - I was responding to someone who deleted their post fyi.

2nd Edit - I could just have deleted my post but I didn't. 

[Deleted]

Feb 9, 2018 16:00:13 GMT 1 saint said:

Backdoor print I assume.

EDIT - I was responding to someone who deleted their post fyi.

2nd Edit - I could just have deleted my post but I didn't. 

Apologies,

It was my deleted response. Initially thought this was an official Turf War without COA going for £4500 and the OP had missed an '0' from his pricing.

After re-reading realised it was a reproduction.

[iamzero]

So is it a backdoor print or a reproduction?

[Majestic]

Trev is an absolute gent and a pleasure to deal with.

I believe this is a backdoor - looks great in the flesh!

[Trevorm]

Feb 9, 2018 16:36:10 GMT 1 iamzero said:

So is it a backdoor print or a reproduction?

Yes, it's a back door

[Trevorm]

Feb 9, 2018 19:14:39 GMT 1 Majestic said:

Trev is an absolute gent and a pleasure to deal with.

I believe this is a backdoor - looks great in the flesh!

Thanks T - appreciated

I can send a photo of the piece 'in situ' over to any interested party. It's pretty cool

[deltaboy]

What is a 'back door print'?

[Pysgod]

Feb 10, 2018 0:40:32 GMT 1 deltaboy said:

What is a 'back door print'?

A stolen print

as in taken out of 'the back door.'

[deltaboy]

Ahh, £4.50?

[Charlesworth]

Sorry for being a noob, but are back door prints made by Banksy or are they made by someone else? Thanks

[Nuno]

Feb 10, 2018 7:26:30 GMT 1 Charlesworth said:

Sorry for being a noob, but are back door prints made by Banksy or are they made by someone else? Thanks

As I understand it they were made at the same time as the rest of the print run but sneaked outmod the door before being signed or numbered. So have the same physical properties (size, paper, inks). Typically hard to verify and all of the value is in the provenance (links back to pow staff etc) imo.

[Charlesworth]

Thank you for the info. So the low price is due to not being able to get a COA? Are there many back door versions of other prints too?

[Nuno]

Feb 10, 2018 8:02:37 GMT 1 Charlesworth said:

Thank you for the info. So the low price is due to not being able to get a COA? Are there many back door versions of other prints too?

Highly unlikely to get a Coa. I think they exist for most/all prints.

[iamzero]

I do wonder if Mission prints is something to do with WCP.

[iamzero]

Either way £4500 is a hell of a gamble.

[iamzero]

Sounds more realistic. I’ve always been tempted to take a punt on the backdoor prints but just never had the balls.

[Trevorm]

Yes it was £450 not 4.5k - could I have got that much? Whoooo!

Anyway it's sold now - thanks for the interest

[Carl Cashman]

Did you get 450 for it ? I have one id happily sell for that

[kjg]

Second thoughts on your backdoor print? Please let me know via pm :-)

[schoki74]

Feb 10, 2018 9:51:30 GMT 1 Carl Cashman said:

Did you get 450 for it ? I have one id happily sell for that

I would be interested If U have a Hack door Print. Just wanted IT in my Wall.

[racket]

Had a lovely hmv bd, gone to a good member here a couple years ago

[kwatis]

Back door prints are actual prints printed during the same run as the edition, artist proofs and printers proofs. When printing an edition, printers will start with more paper than the target edirion size requires. Mistakes happen and sometimes with or without control. So for an edition of 100, maybe 25-40 more print are made, insuring the the target is reached and that they are all equally good prints. The remaining prints that are good or okay might be marked A/P or P/P depending on the print house and/or artists desire. Backdoor prints effectively come from the less desirable prints. These are usually destroyed, as the artist and print house run quality control and usually don't want anything of poor quality getting out. Sometimes the overages, good or bad, are destroyed as their production wasn't paid for or they aren't needed, so they would ultimately be destroyed as well. Anything not signed by the artist and/or not chopped by the print house should be destroyed. Or should not find its way into the public's hand. Prints that are "rescued" from being destroyed are taken by employees and escape out of the back. Those are considered backdoor prints.

[tab1]

Cheaper than a soupcan poster?
I’d rather have this

[tab1]

Anyone have any backdoor prints in this price range?
I would buy

[moron]

Definately a good talking point and the history of the print and the printer. I know some printers destroy any overs etc as in the case of Modern Multiples and often clients demand the printer destroys or hands over any extras.

If at the time Banksy wasn't bothered about these extra prints, it's certainly collectable although technically worth very little.

[bonsai]

Have a B.C and T.W test prints asking £1400 o.n.o. Both mint condition.
Purchased from a reputable forum member.


Pics by request.  Cheers Tim

[bbperez1]

Feb 22, 2018 3:45:10 GMT 1 bonsai said:

Have a B.C and T.W test prints asking £1400 o.n.o. Both mint condition.
Purchased from a reputable forum member.


Pics by request.  Cheers Tim

What exactly does backdoor mean?? Are these unauthorized? Are they fake?