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simonf
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Banksy Signed Original Blue Soupcan + COA, by simonf on Sept 19, 2017 19:40:46 GMT 1, Had a few offers that have gone nowhere so far - 16.5k seems to be what its worth so that is what I am looking for
Cheers
Had a few offers that have gone nowhere so far - 16.5k seems to be what its worth so that is what I am looking for
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Banksy Signed Original Blue Soupcan + COA, by greeceboy on Sept 20, 2017 3:28:19 GMT 1, I only have $2,000 can I buy?
I only have $2,000 can I buy?
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Banksy Signed Original Blue Soupcan + COA, by greeceboy on Sept 20, 2017 3:34:44 GMT 1, I only have $2,000 can I buy?
I only have $2,000 can I buy?
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Banksy Signed Original Blue Soupcan + COA, by Deleted on Sept 20, 2017 6:36:16 GMT 1, I only have $2,000 can I buy?
I think NO but a good try!
I only have $2,000 can I buy? I think NO but a good try! |
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Banksy Signed Original Blue Soupcan + COA, by Viking Surfer on Sept 20, 2017 6:51:23 GMT 1, I only have $2,000 can I buy?
.dappy has a signed Girl with Balloon he is looking to sell for around $2000. You should drop him a pm.
I only have $2,000 can I buy? has a signed Girl with Balloon he is looking to sell for around $2000. You should drop him a pm. |
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simonf
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Banksy Signed Original Blue Soupcan + COA, by simonf on Sept 20, 2017 15:21:51 GMT 1, I've had a few offers in but to be fair that is the lowest - even allowing for the exchange rate 
Also in answer to a few queries, it has no fading around the edge, the back of the frame has a sticker detailing the type of UV glass used, I have had the back off the frame to check and it is hinge mounted across the top.
I've had a few offers in but to be fair that is the lowest - even allowing for the exchange rate Also in answer to a few queries, it has no fading around the edge, the back of the frame has a sticker detailing the type of UV glass used, I have had the back off the frame to check and it is hinge mounted across the top. |
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Banksy Signed Original Blue Soupcan + COA, by greeceboy on Sept 20, 2017 20:19:42 GMT 1, thank you friend I will ask him
thank you friend I will ask him
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simonf
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Banksy Signed Original Blue Soupcan + COA, by simonf on Sept 29, 2017 14:07:08 GMT 1, Have added some more images above. there is a couple pictures of the back of the print showing the hinge mounts. I have also included some pictures of the front of the print out of the frame. On the left hand side of the print there is a very slight amount of fading on the edge - about a quarter of a centimetre - I have tried to take a picture of it but its not that easy to see.There is an even thinner one on the right side - but its very hard to see.
I am reducing the price to £14.5k as I do need to sell this.
Many thanks!
Have added some more images above. there is a couple pictures of the back of the print showing the hinge mounts. I have also included some pictures of the front of the print out of the frame. On the left hand side of the print there is a very slight amount of fading on the edge - about a quarter of a centimetre - I have tried to take a picture of it but its not that easy to see.There is an even thinner one on the right side - but its very hard to see.
I am reducing the price to £14.5k as I do need to sell this.
Many thanks!
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simonf
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Banksy Signed Original Blue Soupcan + COA, by simonf on Oct 20, 2017 19:30:27 GMT 1, Many thanks for all the PMs - this is now SOLD
Many thanks for all the PMs - this is now SOLD
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Banksy Signed Original Blue Soupcan + COA, by Con Art Studio on Oct 20, 2017 19:47:28 GMT 1, there's sun damage on that print, the paper is slightly sun bleached. you can see the difference between the area that the matt was covering versus what was exposed to the sun. either museum glass isn't being used or it was just exposed to too much direct sunlight.
there's sun damage on that print, the paper is slightly sun bleached. you can see the difference between the area that the matt was covering versus what was exposed to the sun. either museum glass isn't being used or it was just exposed to too much direct sunlight. |
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Banksy Signed Original Blue Soupcan + COA, by Harveyn on Oct 20, 2017 20:26:27 GMT 1, Looks like very minor UV bleach that can be reversed. No idea of value but this would only have a minor effect IMO.
What I would say and have said on countless occasions float mount is the only option. No matter if you use museum glass you will get fading and it will be uneven with a matt. Float will mean the fading will not be noticeable.
People get hung up about hinges when floating when if done properly is 100% reversible and its the back of the print!! Most farmers who have been ask to use a matt to frame the print will hinge at the top anyway, as per this print.
All said and done this is a beautiful print and worth more than the current asking IMO.
Looks like very minor UV bleach that can be reversed. No idea of value but this would only have a minor effect IMO.
What I would say and have said on countless occasions float mount is the only option. No matter if you use museum glass you will get fading and it will be uneven with a matt. Float will mean the fading will not be noticeable.
People get hung up about hinges when floating when if done properly is 100% reversible and its the back of the print!! Most farmers who have been ask to use a matt to frame the print will hinge at the top anyway, as per this print.
All said and done this is a beautiful print and worth more than the current asking IMO.
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Banksy Signed Original Blue Soupcan + COA, by iamzero on Oct 20, 2017 21:02:07 GMT 1, Beautiful. Only thing I can’t understand is why it as been attached to the window mount and not the under mount? Strange. The simplicity of this is amazing.
Beautiful. Only thing I can’t understand is why it as been attached to the window mount and not the under mount? Strange. The simplicity of this is amazing.
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Banksy Signed Original Blue Soupcan + COA, by broke on Oct 20, 2017 21:09:46 GMT 1, Beautiful. Only thing I can’t understand is why it as been attached to the window mount and not the under mount? Strange. The simplicity of this is amazing. 
Beautiful. Only thing I can’t understand is why it as been attached to the window mount and not the under mount? Strange. The simplicity of this is amazing. standard procedure to attach it to the front mount |
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simonf
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Banksy Signed Original Blue Soupcan + COA, by simonf on Oct 20, 2017 21:12:10 GMT 1, I think the consensus was that most probably the mount board was not acid free and the acid from the mount had affected the print edge (mainly one edge). It had UV glass and was out of direct sunlight so I don't think it's the affect of the sun. However, as with most things in life, I might be wrong. I think it is a lesson I have learned in making sure the mount is acid free
I think the consensus was that most probably the mount board was not acid free and the acid from the mount had affected the print edge (mainly one edge). It had UV glass and was out of direct sunlight so I don't think it's the affect of the sun. However, as with most things in life, I might be wrong. I think it is a lesson I have learned in making sure the mount is acid free
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Banksy Signed Original Blue Soupcan + COA, by Poster Bob on Oct 20, 2017 21:13:55 GMT 1,
All you need to do is frame it and hang it and wait for it to even out.
there's sun damage on that print, the paper is slightly sun bleached. you can see the difference between the area that the matt was covering versus what was exposed to the sun. either museum glass isn't being used or it was just exposed to too much direct sunlight.
All you need to do is frame it and hang it and wait for it to even out. there's sun damage on that print, the paper is slightly sun bleached. you can see the difference between the area that the matt was covering versus what was exposed to the sun. either museum glass isn't being used or it was just exposed to too much direct sunlight. |
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Banksy Signed Original Blue Soupcan + COA, by broke on Oct 20, 2017 21:21:42 GMT 1, I think the consensus was that most probably the mount board was not acid free and the acid from the mount had affected the print edge (mainly one edge). It had UV glass and was out of direct sunlight so I don't think it's the affect of the sun. However, as with most things in life, I might be wrong. I think it is a lesson I have learned in making sure the mount is acid free
I think the consensus was that most probably the mount board was not acid free and the acid from the mount had affected the print edge (mainly one edge). It had UV glass and was out of direct sunlight so I don't think it's the affect of the sun. However, as with most things in life, I might be wrong. I think it is a lesson I have learned in making sure the mount is acid free how long has it been in that frame and did you frame it yourself? i would be very surprised if any professional framers used anything other than acid free board, and if they did i suggest finding yourself a new framer . The UV glass may have been put in the wrong way, making it effectively useless. |
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Banksy Signed Original Blue Soupcan + COA, by iamzero on Oct 20, 2017 21:28:19 GMT 1, Beautiful. Only thing I can’t understand is why it as been attached to the window mount and not the under mount? Strange. The simplicity of this is amazing. standard procedure to attach it to the front mount
In who’s book? Certainly not a technique I’d use. T hinges all the way.
Beautiful. Only thing I can’t understand is why it as been attached to the window mount and not the under mount? Strange. The simplicity of this is amazing. standard procedure to attach it to the front mount In who’s book? Certainly not a technique I’d use. T hinges all the way. |
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Banksy Signed Original Blue Soupcan + COA, by broke on Oct 20, 2017 21:38:13 GMT 1, standard procedure to attach it to the front mount In who’s book? Certainly not a technique I’d use. T hinges all the way.
standard procedure to attach it to the front mount In who’s book? Certainly not a technique I’d use. T hinges all the way. maybe i misunderstood your post. personally i have never framed a mounted print by attaching it to a backing board, always used the front mount. could you enlighten me on how you would have done it? i'm a bit of a framing nerd and like seeing how others do things |
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Banksy Signed Original Blue Soupcan + COA, by Jonny Wednesday on Oct 20, 2017 21:42:59 GMT 1, Looks like very minor UV bleach that can be reversed. No idea of value but this would only have a minor effect IMO. What I would say and have said on countless occasions float mount is the only option. No matter if you use museum glass you will get fading and it will be uneven with a matt. Float will mean the fading will not be noticeable. People get hung up about hinges when floating when if done properly is 100% reversible and its the back of the print!! Most farmers who have been ask to use a matt to frame the print will hinge at the top anyway, as per this print. All said and done this is a beautiful print and worth more than the current asking IMO.
Lovely print BTW. Am tempted but I think I'd have to castrate myself if I did.....save the missus doing it for me.
Looks like very minor UV bleach that can be reversed. No idea of value but this would only have a minor effect IMO. What I would say and have said on countless occasions float mount is the only option. No matter if you use museum glass you will get fading and it will be uneven with a matt. Float will mean the fading will not be noticeable. People get hung up about hinges when floating when if done properly is 100% reversible and its the back of the print!! Most farmers who have been ask to use a matt to frame the print will hinge at the top anyway, as per this print. All said and done this is a beautiful print and worth more than the current asking IMO. how do you reverse UV bleaching? Lovely print BTW. Am tempted but I think I'd have to castrate myself if I did.....save the missus doing it for me. |
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Banksy Signed Original Blue Soupcan + COA, by iamzero on Oct 20, 2017 22:07:29 GMT 1, In who’s book? Certainly not a technique I’d use. T hinges all the way. maybe i misunderstood your post. personally i have never framed a mounted print by attaching it to a backing board, always used the front mount. could you enlighten me on how you would have done it? i'm a bit of a framing nerd and like seeing how others do things
A book hinge is used to join the window mount to the under mount and two t hinges are used to attach to artwork to the under mount.
www.nedcc.org/free-resources/preservation-leaflets/7.-conservation-procedures/7.4-how-to-do-your-own-matting-and-hinging
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Banksy Signed Original Blue Soupcan + COA, by Unica on Oct 20, 2017 22:10:14 GMT 1, Looks like very minor UV bleach that can be reversed. No idea of value but this would only have a minor effect IMO. What I would say and have said on countless occasions float mount is the only option. No matter if you use museum glass you will get fading and it will be uneven with a matt. Float will mean the fading will not be noticeable. People get hung up about hinges when floating when if done properly is 100% reversible and its the back of the print!! Most farmers who have been ask to use a matt to frame the print will hinge at the top anyway, as per this print. All said and done this is a beautiful print and worth more than the current asking IMO. how do you reverse UV bleaching? Lovely print BTW. Am tempted but I think I'd have to castrate myself if I did.....save the missus doing it for me.
Don't worry it's sold.
Looks like very minor UV bleach that can be reversed. No idea of value but this would only have a minor effect IMO. What I would say and have said on countless occasions float mount is the only option. No matter if you use museum glass you will get fading and it will be uneven with a matt. Float will mean the fading will not be noticeable. People get hung up about hinges when floating when if done properly is 100% reversible and its the back of the print!! Most farmers who have been ask to use a matt to frame the print will hinge at the top anyway, as per this print. All said and done this is a beautiful print and worth more than the current asking IMO. how do you reverse UV bleaching? Lovely print BTW. Am tempted but I think I'd have to castrate myself if I did.....save the missus doing it for me. [ Don't worry it's sold. |
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Banksy Signed Original Blue Soupcan + COA, by simonf on Oct 20, 2017 22:37:50 GMT 1, So just out of interest is the "acid from the mount" theory blown out of the water? Is the consensus that it was sunlight? Just curious as I was surprised to find it. It was supposed to be acid free and uv glass.
Oh and can you reverse UV bleaching... I thought you couldn't
So just out of interest is the "acid from the mount" theory blown out of the water? Is the consensus that it was sunlight? Just curious as I was surprised to find it. It was supposed to be acid free and uv glass.
Oh and can you reverse UV bleaching... I thought you couldn't
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Banksy Signed Original Blue Soupcan + COA, by iamzero on Oct 20, 2017 23:10:37 GMT 1, I think the fact that has been talked about before is that Banksy didn’t always print for on the highest quality stock which hasn’t helped in the the preservation of the art.
I think the fact that has been talked about before is that Banksy didn’t always print for on the highest quality stock which hasn’t helped in the the preservation of the art.
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Banksy Signed Original Blue Soupcan + COA, by broke on Oct 20, 2017 23:14:40 GMT 1, Cheers for the info dude, i am familiar with this technique but not huge fan myself as it takes more time to put in, guess i am just lazy. i am still a little confused why they say on that site never attach the work to the front of the mount, i don't see why it would cause such an issue.can you shed any light? or is it just personal preference?
Cheers for the info dude, i am familiar with this technique but not huge fan myself as it takes more time to put in, guess i am just lazy. i am still a little confused why they say on that site never attach the work to the front of the mount, i don't see why it would cause such an issue.can you shed any light? or is it just personal preference? |
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Banksy Signed Original Blue Soupcan + COA, by iamzero on Oct 20, 2017 23:20:43 GMT 1, Firstly the window mount could potentially sag under the weight of the artwork but more importantly it’s easier to position the artwork correctly when it’s attached to the under mount. The backing board is not the under mount.
Firstly the window mount could potentially sag under the weight of the artwork but more importantly it’s easier to position the artwork correctly when it’s attached to the under mount. The backing board is not the under mount.
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Banksy Signed Original Blue Soupcan + COA, by broke on Oct 20, 2017 23:36:22 GMT 1, Firstly the window mount could potentially sag under the weight of the artwork but more importantly it’s easier to position the artwork correctly when it’s attached to the under mount. The backing board is not the under mount.
Firstly the window mount could potentially sag under the weight of the artwork but more importantly it’s easier to position the artwork correctly when it’s attached to the under mount. The backing board is not the under mount. i disagree with both of those statements. I've framed tens of thousands of pieces onto the front mount and never had any complaints about sagging, guess it depends on the board you use. i also find it much easier to position as you can move the mount over the artwork instead of moving the artwork under the mount. each to their own i guess. |
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Banksy Signed Original Blue Soupcan + COA, by iamzero on Oct 20, 2017 23:42:40 GMT 1, Well I’m guessing you’re better off voicing your disapproval to the framers guild dude. As a hobby/ part time framer I’ve opened countless frames from professional framers and been horrified to see what shoddy work these people pass off because the customer rarely sees it. I’m sure you’re one of the good guys though.
Well I’m guessing you’re better off voicing your disapproval to the framers guild dude. As a hobby/ part time framer I’ve opened countless frames from professional framers and been horrified to see what shoddy work these people pass off because the customer rarely sees it. I’m sure you’re one of the good guys though.
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Banksy Signed Original Blue Soupcan + COA, by broke on Oct 21, 2017 0:02:15 GMT 1, Well I’m guessing you’re better off voicing your disapproval to the framers guild dude. As a hobby/ part time framer I’ve opened countless frames from professional framers and been horrified to see what shoddy work these people pass off because the customer rarely sees it. I’m sure you’re one of the good guys though.  maybe i will give your way another go.
Well I’m guessing you’re better off voicing your disapproval to the framers guild dude. As a hobby/ part time framer I’ve opened countless frames from professional framers and been horrified to see what shoddy work these people pass off because the customer rarely sees it. I’m sure you’re one of the good guys though. sorry if it sounded like i was undermining you, as that was not my intention. when i tell people i'm a framer i often have to explain what a picture framer is, so its nice to speak with someone like yourself who shares my interest. i also have a few horror stories when opening frames, super glue, parcel tape and even hot glue gun to name but a few. when i win the banksy lottery maybe i will give your way another go. |
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maybe i will give your way another go.
