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Banksy - Pink Donut - SOLD, by Fish in the Sea on Sept 17, 2017 19:46:10 GMT 1, Good news for the OP then Clearly out of touch with market... Hope it goes to a good home
Good news for the OP then Clearly out of touch with market... Hope it goes to a good home
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Banksy - Pink Donut - SOLD, by Deleted on Sept 17, 2017 20:28:55 GMT 1, Are there any others currently for sale? if not charge what you want. There's way more buyers than sellers out there.
Are there any others currently for sale? if not charge what you want. There's way more buyers than sellers out there.
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Banksy - Pink Donut - SOLD, by ntmart on Sept 17, 2017 20:38:02 GMT 1, None that I know of.
I've had offers but they've not met expectations, lots of talking prices down.
None that I know of.
I've had offers but they've not met expectations, lots of talking prices down.
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Banksy - Pink Donut - SOLD, by Deleted on Sept 17, 2017 20:46:08 GMT 1, Talk all they want. If there's nothing else for sale then the current market spread is about 5k. 22 bid 27 offered.
Talk all they want. If there's nothing else for sale then the current market spread is about 5k. 22 bid 27 offered.
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Banksy - Pink Donut - SOLD, by ntmart on Sept 17, 2017 21:01:47 GMT 1, Indeed :-)
Indeed :-)
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Banksy - Pink Donut - SOLD, by ntmart on Sept 23, 2017 9:36:39 GMT 1, Bump
Bump
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Banksy - Pink Donut - SOLD, by highflyer on Sept 23, 2017 10:07:20 GMT 1, Don't lower the price. The people talking down the price run galleries and are looking for a deal.
Don't lower the price! All these people looking for a deal. Don't sell it!
Don't lower the price. The people talking down the price run galleries and are looking for a deal. Don't lower the price! All these people looking for a deal. Don't sell it!
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Banksy - Pink Donut - SOLD, by Cocteau 101 on Sept 23, 2017 11:29:57 GMT 1, This is 25k all day long.
This is 25k all day long.
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Banksy - Pink Donut - SOLD, by Eton Groover on Sept 23, 2017 12:05:08 GMT 1, Clearly not, otherwise it would have sold
Clearly not, otherwise it would have sold
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Banksy - Pink Donut - SOLD, by artearte on Sept 23, 2017 12:23:34 GMT 1, This is 25k all day long.
I will said ยฃ28k
This is 25k all day long. I will said ยฃ28k
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Banksy - Pink Donut - SOLD, by highflyer on Sept 23, 2017 12:38:23 GMT 1, Are there any others currently for sale? if not charge what you want. There's way more buyers than sellers out there.
Some great well informed intelligent advice.
Are there any others currently for sale? if not charge what you want. There's way more buyers than sellers out there. Some great well informed intelligent advice.
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Banksy - Pink Donut - SOLD, by Matt on Sept 23, 2017 12:57:38 GMT 1, Are there any others currently for sale? if not charge what you want. There's way more buyers than sellers out there. Some great well informed intelligent advice.
Perfectly agree that the seller can do whatever the fck he wants with his print.
But in general, can someone explain to me the logic here : - In the Banksy market, there is more demand than offer. - This print is well priced in the market - This well priced Banksy print is not selling in the market where there is more demand than offer
Something doesn't seem rational here, one of these three statement has got to be wrong...
Are there any others currently for sale? if not charge what you want. There's way more buyers than sellers out there. Some great well informed intelligent advice. Perfectly agree that the seller can do whatever the fck he wants with his print. But in general, can someone explain to me the logic here : - In the Banksy market, there is more demand than offer. - This print is well priced in the market - This well priced Banksy print is not selling in the market where there is more demand than offer Something doesn't seem rational here, one of these three statement has got to be wrong...
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Banksy - Pink Donut - SOLD, by highflyer on Sept 23, 2017 13:00:11 GMT 1, Some great well informed intelligent advice. Perfectly agree the seller can do whatever the fck he wants with his print. But in general, can someone explain to me the logic here : - In the Banksy market, there is more demand than offer. - This print is well priced in the market - This print is not selling Something doesn't seem rational here...
Because, and forgive me for stating the obvious for people with IQs over 80. THERE IS ONLY MORE DEMAND THAT SUPPLY BELOW A CERTAIN PRICE POINT.
My word. This world. It's worrying.
Some great well informed intelligent advice. Perfectly agree the seller can do whatever the fck he wants with his print. But in general, can someone explain to me the logic here : - In the Banksy market, there is more demand than offer. - This print is well priced in the market - This print is not selling Something doesn't seem rational here... Because, and forgive me for stating the obvious for people with IQs over 80. THERE IS ONLY MORE DEMAND THAT SUPPLY BELOW A CERTAIN PRICE POINT. My word. This world. It's worrying.
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Banksy - Pink Donut - SOLD, by Matt on Sept 23, 2017 13:01:54 GMT 1, Perfectly agree the seller can do whatever the fck he wants with his print. But in general, can someone explain to me the logic here : - In the Banksy market, there is more demand than offer. - This print is well priced in the market - This print is not selling Something doesn't seem rational here... Because, and forgive me for stating the obvious for people with IQs over 80. THERE IS ONLY MORE DEMAND THAT SUPPLY BELOW A CERTAIN PRICE POINT. My word. This world. It's worrying.
I wish I was as smart as you...
Perfectly agree the seller can do whatever the fck he wants with his print. But in general, can someone explain to me the logic here : - In the Banksy market, there is more demand than offer. - This print is well priced in the market - This print is not selling Something doesn't seem rational here... Because, and forgive me for stating the obvious for people with IQs over 80. THERE IS ONLY MORE DEMAND THAT SUPPLY BELOW A CERTAIN PRICE POINT. My word. This world. It's worrying. I wish I was as smart as you...
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Banksy - Pink Donut - SOLD, by pr.yu on Sept 23, 2017 13:14:06 GMT 1, Perfectly agree the seller can do whatever the fck he wants with his print. But in general, can someone explain to me the logic here : - In the Banksy market, there is more demand than offer. - This print is well priced in the market - This print is not selling Something doesn't seem rational here... Because, and forgive me for stating the obvious for people with IQs over 80. THERE IS ONLY MORE DEMAND THAT SUPPLY BELOW A CERTAIN PRICE POINT. My word. This world. It's worrying. I don't think that's necessarily true. It's just that all the demand doesn't exist on the UAA board. There's a lot of demand out there that doesn't spend all day refreshing the "Latest Threads" tab as I do.
Perfectly agree the seller can do whatever the fck he wants with his print. But in general, can someone explain to me the logic here : - In the Banksy market, there is more demand than offer. - This print is well priced in the market - This print is not selling Something doesn't seem rational here... Because, and forgive me for stating the obvious for people with IQs over 80. THERE IS ONLY MORE DEMAND THAT SUPPLY BELOW A CERTAIN PRICE POINT. My word. This world. It's worrying. I don't think that's necessarily true. It's just that all the demand doesn't exist on the UAA board. There's a lot of demand out there that doesn't spend all day refreshing the "Latest Threads" tab as I do.
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Banksy - Pink Donut - SOLD, by Deleted on Sept 23, 2017 13:30:39 GMT 1, Because, and forgive me for stating the obvious for people with IQs over 80. THERE IS ONLY MORE DEMAND THAT SUPPLY BELOW A CERTAIN PRICE POINT. My word. This world. It's worrying. I wish I was as smart as you... Me too... it must feel great
Because, and forgive me for stating the obvious for people with IQs over 80. THERE IS ONLY MORE DEMAND THAT SUPPLY BELOW A CERTAIN PRICE POINT. My word. This world. It's worrying. I wish I was as smart as you... Me too... it must feel great
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Banksy - Pink Donut - SOLD, by Matt on Sept 23, 2017 13:34:45 GMT 1, pr.yu that would make sense
Would it then also be fair to assume that this "demand" which is not on the forum, is buying mainly from professionals such as galleries and auction houses ?
Which in turns would mean that expecting gallery or auction prices on here, or quoting them as price references, is not the best way to conclude a sale ?
pr.yu that would make sense Would it then also be fair to assume that this "demand" which is not on the forum, is buying mainly from professionals such as galleries and auction houses ? Which in turns would mean that expecting gallery or auction prices on here, or quoting them as price references, is not the best way to conclude a sale ?
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Banksy - Pink Donut - SOLD, by pr.yu on Sept 23, 2017 13:45:19 GMT 1, pr.yu that would make sense Would it then also be fair to assume that this "demand" which is not on the forum, is buying mainly from professionals such as galleries and auction houses ? Which in turns would mean that expecting gallery or auction prices on here, or quoting them as price references, is not the best way to conclude a sale ? I think that's a reasonable thought. I've said before that I think galleries and auction houses are providing a service and some prestige over private sales. Established galleries and auction houses provide some veracity to the artwork and its authenticity, in my mind. I think if you're going to quote gallery prices, you probably should knock off somewhere from 15-25%. I think if you're going to quote auction sales, the private sale price is somewhere around the hammer price, maybe a bit higher.
Just my opinion, of course.
I also think a seller of a piece in this price range who is trying to maximize profit is probably better off trying to work out a deal with an established auction house for a low or 0% commission. It's nice to be able to sell to people within the forum, but I think you have to realize that you're not going to make as much. For instance, coming here to sell a rare Banksy Nola and expecting someone on here to give you 90K GBP via PayPal friends and family or a wire transfer seems a bit ludicrous.
pr.yu that would make sense Would it then also be fair to assume that this "demand" which is not on the forum, is buying mainly from professionals such as galleries and auction houses ? Which in turns would mean that expecting gallery or auction prices on here, or quoting them as price references, is not the best way to conclude a sale ? I think that's a reasonable thought. I've said before that I think galleries and auction houses are providing a service and some prestige over private sales. Established galleries and auction houses provide some veracity to the artwork and its authenticity, in my mind. I think if you're going to quote gallery prices, you probably should knock off somewhere from 15-25%. I think if you're going to quote auction sales, the private sale price is somewhere around the hammer price, maybe a bit higher. Just my opinion, of course. I also think a seller of a piece in this price range who is trying to maximize profit is probably better off trying to work out a deal with an established auction house for a low or 0% commission. It's nice to be able to sell to people within the forum, but I think you have to realize that you're not going to make as much. For instance, coming here to sell a rare Banksy Nola and expecting someone on here to give you 90K GBP via PayPal friends and family or a wire transfer seems a bit ludicrous.
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Banksy - Pink Donut - SOLD, by theblank on Sept 23, 2017 14:10:37 GMT 1, I feel like there's a misinterpretation that if something doesn't sell in like 15 minutes the price is too high. Obviously your time tables should effect your price but how many people out there are ready to drop 27 grand on a piece every day? I'd stay firm personally unless you are in need of liquid cash ASAP.
I feel like there's a misinterpretation that if something doesn't sell in like 15 minutes the price is too high. Obviously your time tables should effect your price but how many people out there are ready to drop 27 grand on a piece every day? I'd stay firm personally unless you are in need of liquid cash ASAP.
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Banksy - Pink Donut - SOLD, by pr.yu on Sept 23, 2017 14:22:57 GMT 1, I feel like there's a misinterpretation that if something doesn't sell in like 15 minutes the price is too high. Obviously your time tables should effect your price but how many people out there are ready to drop 27 grand on a piece every day? I'd stay firm personally unless you are in need of liquid cash ASAP. Totally agree. I think your price is too low if it sells in 15 minutes, especially if you're talking high-end stuff.
I feel like there's a misinterpretation that if something doesn't sell in like 15 minutes the price is too high. Obviously your time tables should effect your price but how many people out there are ready to drop 27 grand on a piece every day? I'd stay firm personally unless you are in need of liquid cash ASAP. Totally agree. I think your price is too low if it sells in 15 minutes, especially if you're talking high-end stuff.
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Banksy - Pink Donut - SOLD, by highflyer on Sept 23, 2017 14:38:05 GMT 1, Because, and forgive me for stating the obvious for people with IQs over 80. THERE IS ONLY MORE DEMAND THAT SUPPLY BELOW A CERTAIN PRICE POINT. My word. This world. It's worrying. I don't think that's necessarily true. It's just that all the demand doesn't exist on the UAA board. There's a lot of demand out there that doesn't spend all day refreshing the "Latest Threads" tab as I do.
Very fair point. Also, very funny re latest threads refreshing haha
Because, and forgive me for stating the obvious for people with IQs over 80. THERE IS ONLY MORE DEMAND THAT SUPPLY BELOW A CERTAIN PRICE POINT. My word. This world. It's worrying. I don't think that's necessarily true. It's just that all the demand doesn't exist on the UAA board. There's a lot of demand out there that doesn't spend all day refreshing the "Latest Threads" tab as I do. Very fair point. Also, very funny re latest threads refreshing haha
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Banksy - Pink Donut - SOLD, by Deleted on Sept 24, 2017 12:10:44 GMT 1, Basic supply and demand but the problem is here you don't know the volume of bidders or the volume of offers to help with decisions. If we do know the last traded price is ยฃ25k. If someone is ยฃ23k bid and the only offer is ยฃ27k someone has to move or something has to affect the market or persons to affect that change. We know there are only 199 in the world and a fraction of these will potentially be offered for sale. Added to that of those 199 a lot will be owned by collectors who won't sell at any price. some may of been damaged or lost, badly framed, sun damaged etc so potentially even less in existence. Prices are rising better than most investments (not all) and unlike shares you will always have a picture you like if the market falls. What can make the market fall? The economy, but there will still be people with money for art. Banksy releases more colour ways of the print or starts producing prints weekly? doubt it will ever happen. WW3 started by those 2 plonkers. Will still look nice on a bunker wall.
The offer price is ยฃ27k if you want it pay it. You can't shop around if there isn't an alternative. If you have one to sell offer for ยฃ26k or wait to see if someone buys the one for ยฃ27k then offer yours for ยฃ28k. Sellers market imho
Bit like footballers but there's more on offer unless you want a particular one.
Basic supply and demand but the problem is here you don't know the volume of bidders or the volume of offers to help with decisions. If we do know the last traded price is ยฃ25k. If someone is ยฃ23k bid and the only offer is ยฃ27k someone has to move or something has to affect the market or persons to affect that change. We know there are only 199 in the world and a fraction of these will potentially be offered for sale. Added to that of those 199 a lot will be owned by collectors who won't sell at any price. some may of been damaged or lost, badly framed, sun damaged etc so potentially even less in existence. Prices are rising better than most investments (not all) and unlike shares you will always have a picture you like if the market falls. What can make the market fall? The economy, but there will still be people with money for art. Banksy releases more colour ways of the print or starts producing prints weekly? doubt it will ever happen. WW3 started by those 2 plonkers. Will still look nice on a bunker wall.
The offer price is ยฃ27k if you want it pay it. You can't shop around if there isn't an alternative. If you have one to sell offer for ยฃ26k or wait to see if someone buys the one for ยฃ27k then offer yours for ยฃ28k. Sellers market imho
Bit like footballers but there's more on offer unless you want a particular one.
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Banksy - Pink Donut - SOLD, by highflyer on Sept 24, 2017 12:25:49 GMT 1, Basic supply and demand but the problem is here you don't know the volume of bidders or the volume of offers to help with decisions. If we do know the last traded price is ยฃ25k. If someone is ยฃ23k bid and the only offer is ยฃ27k someone has to move or something has to affect the market or persons to affect that change. We know there are only 199 in the world and a fraction of these will potentially be offered for sale. Added to that of those 199 a lot will be owned by collectors who won't sell at any price. some may of been damaged or lost, badly framed, sun damaged etc so potentially even less in existence. Prices are rising better than most investments (not all) and unlike shares you will always have a picture you like if the market falls. What can make the market fall? The economy, but there will still be people with money for art. Banksy releases more colour ways of the print or starts producing prints weekly? doubt it will ever happen. WW3 started by those 2 plonkers. Will still look nice on a bunker wall. The offer price is ยฃ27k if you want it pay it. You can't shop around if there isn't an alternative. If you have one to sell offer for ยฃ26k or wait to see if someone buys the one for ยฃ27k then offer yours for ยฃ28k. Sellers market imho Bit like footballers but there's more on offer unless you want a particular one.
One of the worst pieces of "analysis" I've read in years. Shallow at almost every point.
Basic supply and demand but the problem is here you don't know the volume of bidders or the volume of offers to help with decisions. If we do know the last traded price is ยฃ25k. If someone is ยฃ23k bid and the only offer is ยฃ27k someone has to move or something has to affect the market or persons to affect that change. We know there are only 199 in the world and a fraction of these will potentially be offered for sale. Added to that of those 199 a lot will be owned by collectors who won't sell at any price. some may of been damaged or lost, badly framed, sun damaged etc so potentially even less in existence. Prices are rising better than most investments (not all) and unlike shares you will always have a picture you like if the market falls. What can make the market fall? The economy, but there will still be people with money for art. Banksy releases more colour ways of the print or starts producing prints weekly? doubt it will ever happen. WW3 started by those 2 plonkers. Will still look nice on a bunker wall. The offer price is ยฃ27k if you want it pay it. You can't shop around if there isn't an alternative. If you have one to sell offer for ยฃ26k or wait to see if someone buys the one for ยฃ27k then offer yours for ยฃ28k. Sellers market imho Bit like footballers but there's more on offer unless you want a particular one. One of the worst pieces of "analysis" I've read in years. Shallow at almost every point.
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Banksy - Pink Donut - SOLD, by Deleted on Sept 24, 2017 12:34:24 GMT 1, At least I take the time to post an opinion. Either contradict me or don't bother with your pointless comments.
I await your reply to each of my incorrect points
At least I take the time to post an opinion. Either contradict me or don't bother with your pointless comments.
I await your reply to each of my incorrect points
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Banksy - Pink Donut - SOLD, by pr.yu on Sept 24, 2017 12:53:02 GMT 1, Basic supply and demand but the problem is here you don't know the volume of bidders or the volume of offers to help with decisions. If we do know the last traded price is ยฃ25k. If someone is ยฃ23k bid and the only offer is ยฃ27k someone has to move or something has to affect the market or persons to affect that change. We know there are only 199 in the world and a fraction of these will potentially be offered for sale. Added to that of those 199 a lot will be owned by collectors who won't sell at any price. some may of been damaged or lost, badly framed, sun damaged etc so potentially even less in existence. Prices are rising better than most investments (not all) and unlike shares you will always have a picture you like if the market falls. What can make the market fall? The economy, but there will still be people with money for art. Banksy releases more colour ways of the print or starts producing prints weekly? doubt it will ever happen. WW3 started by those 2 plonkers. Will still look nice on a bunker wall. The offer price is ยฃ27k if you want it pay it. You can't shop around if there isn't an alternative. If you have one to sell offer for ยฃ26k or wait to see if someone buys the one for ยฃ27k then offer yours for ยฃ28k. Sellers market imho Bit like footballers but there's more on offer unless you want a particular one.
Agree with the majority of this except that the market can fall just because it falls. There's often no rhyme or reason to it. That's true of stocks, cryptocurrency, art, baseball cards and pretty much anything else. There are long-standing members on here who will tell you they bought a lot of Artist X's work well above cost 3 years ago and now can't sell for less than cost. Markets have whims just like women. They don't always need a reason.
Basic supply and demand but the problem is here you don't know the volume of bidders or the volume of offers to help with decisions. If we do know the last traded price is ยฃ25k. If someone is ยฃ23k bid and the only offer is ยฃ27k someone has to move or something has to affect the market or persons to affect that change. We know there are only 199 in the world and a fraction of these will potentially be offered for sale. Added to that of those 199 a lot will be owned by collectors who won't sell at any price. some may of been damaged or lost, badly framed, sun damaged etc so potentially even less in existence. Prices are rising better than most investments (not all) and unlike shares you will always have a picture you like if the market falls. What can make the market fall? The economy, but there will still be people with money for art. Banksy releases more colour ways of the print or starts producing prints weekly? doubt it will ever happen. WW3 started by those 2 plonkers. Will still look nice on a bunker wall. The offer price is ยฃ27k if you want it pay it. You can't shop around if there isn't an alternative. If you have one to sell offer for ยฃ26k or wait to see if someone buys the one for ยฃ27k then offer yours for ยฃ28k. Sellers market imho Bit like footballers but there's more on offer unless you want a particular one. Agree with the majority of this except that the market can fall just because it falls. There's often no rhyme or reason to it. That's true of stocks, cryptocurrency, art, baseball cards and pretty much anything else. There are long-standing members on here who will tell you they bought a lot of Artist X's work well above cost 3 years ago and now can't sell for less than cost. Markets have whims just like women. They don't always need a reason.
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Banksy - Pink Donut - SOLD, by pr.yu on Sept 24, 2017 12:55:02 GMT 1, Basic supply and demand but the problem is here you don't know the volume of bidders or the volume of offers to help with decisions. If we do know the last traded price is ยฃ25k. If someone is ยฃ23k bid and the only offer is ยฃ27k someone has to move or something has to affect the market or persons to affect that change. We know there are only 199 in the world and a fraction of these will potentially be offered for sale. Added to that of those 199 a lot will be owned by collectors who won't sell at any price. some may of been damaged or lost, badly framed, sun damaged etc so potentially even less in existence. Prices are rising better than most investments (not all) and unlike shares you will always have a picture you like if the market falls. What can make the market fall? The economy, but there will still be people with money for art. Banksy releases more colour ways of the print or starts producing prints weekly? doubt it will ever happen. WW3 started by those 2 plonkers. Will still look nice on a bunker wall. The offer price is ยฃ27k if you want it pay it. You can't shop around if there isn't an alternative. If you have one to sell offer for ยฃ26k or wait to see if someone buys the one for ยฃ27k then offer yours for ยฃ28k. Sellers market imho Bit like footballers but there's more on offer unless you want a particular one.
Oh, and don't get in an argument with highflyer2015. It's not worth it. Just ignore. Haven't been here long, but I've learned that already. He likes to get people riled up.
Basic supply and demand but the problem is here you don't know the volume of bidders or the volume of offers to help with decisions. If we do know the last traded price is ยฃ25k. If someone is ยฃ23k bid and the only offer is ยฃ27k someone has to move or something has to affect the market or persons to affect that change. We know there are only 199 in the world and a fraction of these will potentially be offered for sale. Added to that of those 199 a lot will be owned by collectors who won't sell at any price. some may of been damaged or lost, badly framed, sun damaged etc so potentially even less in existence. Prices are rising better than most investments (not all) and unlike shares you will always have a picture you like if the market falls. What can make the market fall? The economy, but there will still be people with money for art. Banksy releases more colour ways of the print or starts producing prints weekly? doubt it will ever happen. WW3 started by those 2 plonkers. Will still look nice on a bunker wall. The offer price is ยฃ27k if you want it pay it. You can't shop around if there isn't an alternative. If you have one to sell offer for ยฃ26k or wait to see if someone buys the one for ยฃ27k then offer yours for ยฃ28k. Sellers market imho Bit like footballers but there's more on offer unless you want a particular one. Oh, and don't get in an argument with highflyer2015. It's not worth it. Just ignore. Haven't been here long, but I've learned that already. He likes to get people riled up.
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Banksy - Pink Donut - SOLD, by Deleted on Sept 24, 2017 14:09:33 GMT 1, Basic supply and demand but the problem is here you don't know the volume of bidders or the volume of offers to help with decisions. If we do know the last traded price is ยฃ25k. If someone is ยฃ23k bid and the only offer is ยฃ27k someone has to move or something has to affect the market or persons to affect that change. We know there are only 199 in the world and a fraction of these will potentially be offered for sale. Added to that of those 199 a lot will be owned by collectors who won't sell at any price. some may of been damaged or lost, badly framed, sun damaged etc so potentially even less in existence. Prices are rising better than most investments (not all) and unlike shares you will always have a picture you like if the market falls. What can make the market fall? The economy, but there will still be people with money for art. Banksy releases more colour ways of the print or starts producing prints weekly? doubt it will ever happen. WW3 started by those 2 plonkers. Will still look nice on a bunker wall. The offer price is ยฃ27k if you want it pay it. You can't shop around if there isn't an alternative. If you have one to sell offer for ยฃ26k or wait to see if someone buys the one for ยฃ27k then offer yours for ยฃ28k. Sellers market imho Bit like footballers but there's more on offer unless you want a particular one. Agree with the majority of this except that the market can fall just because it falls. There's often no rhyme or reason to it. That's true of stocks, cryptocurrency, art, baseball cards and pretty much anything else. There are long-standing members on here who will tell you they bought a lot of Artist X's work well above cost 3 years ago and now can't sell for less than cost. Markets have whims just like women. They don't always need a reason. There's a reason for a fall even if it's people shorting the market or trying to manipulate it. I'm only referring to the banksy market in my post btw although supply and demand will be part of the reason behind stik and invader rises although in my opinion there has been some manipulation of the latter but I couldn't back that up with facts.
when it comes to other artists depreciating, a lot off that is due to releasing too many works and also the ramping which goes On.
as for high flyer, he's welcome to his opinion as am I but if you have to have a dig at someone have the decency to make it a decent one.
I'm finding lots of reasons not to post on here and he is one of them.
Basic supply and demand but the problem is here you don't know the volume of bidders or the volume of offers to help with decisions. If we do know the last traded price is ยฃ25k. If someone is ยฃ23k bid and the only offer is ยฃ27k someone has to move or something has to affect the market or persons to affect that change. We know there are only 199 in the world and a fraction of these will potentially be offered for sale. Added to that of those 199 a lot will be owned by collectors who won't sell at any price. some may of been damaged or lost, badly framed, sun damaged etc so potentially even less in existence. Prices are rising better than most investments (not all) and unlike shares you will always have a picture you like if the market falls. What can make the market fall? The economy, but there will still be people with money for art. Banksy releases more colour ways of the print or starts producing prints weekly? doubt it will ever happen. WW3 started by those 2 plonkers. Will still look nice on a bunker wall. The offer price is ยฃ27k if you want it pay it. You can't shop around if there isn't an alternative. If you have one to sell offer for ยฃ26k or wait to see if someone buys the one for ยฃ27k then offer yours for ยฃ28k. Sellers market imho Bit like footballers but there's more on offer unless you want a particular one. Agree with the majority of this except that the market can fall just because it falls. There's often no rhyme or reason to it. That's true of stocks, cryptocurrency, art, baseball cards and pretty much anything else. There are long-standing members on here who will tell you they bought a lot of Artist X's work well above cost 3 years ago and now can't sell for less than cost. Markets have whims just like women. They don't always need a reason. There's a reason for a fall even if it's people shorting the market or trying to manipulate it. I'm only referring to the banksy market in my post btw although supply and demand will be part of the reason behind stik and invader rises although in my opinion there has been some manipulation of the latter but I couldn't back that up with facts. when it comes to other artists depreciating, a lot off that is due to releasing too many works and also the ramping which goes On. as for high flyer, he's welcome to his opinion as am I but if you have to have a dig at someone have the decency to make it a decent one. I'm finding lots of reasons not to post on here and he is one of them.
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highflyer
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Banksy - Pink Donut - SOLD, by highflyer on Sept 24, 2017 16:46:49 GMT 1, At least I take the time to post an opinion. Either contradict me or don't bother with your pointless comments. I await your reply to each of my incorrect points
There are too many poor points to respond to. So I'll leave it and let you watch on in bemusement as his pieces remain unsold on this Banksy fan forum.
At least I take the time to post an opinion. Either contradict me or don't bother with your pointless comments. I await your reply to each of my incorrect points There are too many poor points to respond to. So I'll leave it and let you watch on in bemusement as his pieces remain unsold on this Banksy fan forum.
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highflyer
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Banksy - Pink Donut - SOLD, by highflyer on Sept 24, 2017 16:52:47 GMT 1, Agree with the majority of this except that the market can fall just because it falls. There's often no rhyme or reason to it. That's true of stocks, cryptocurrency, art, baseball cards and pretty much anything else. There are long-standing members on here who will tell you they bought a lot of Artist X's work well above cost 3 years ago and now can't sell for less than cost. Markets have whims just like women. They don't always need a reason. There's a reason for a fall even if it's people shorting the market or trying to manipulate it. I'm only referring to the banksy market in my post btw although supply and demand will be part of the reason behind stik and invader rises although in my opinion there has been some manipulation of the latter but I couldn't back that up with facts. when it comes to other artists depreciating, a lot off that is due to releasing too many works and also the ramping which goes On. ย as for high flyer, he's welcome to his opinion as am I but if you have to have a dig at someone have the decency to make it a decent one. I'm finding lots of reasons not to post on here and he is one of them.
It's great if you post but I want to put you off if you're going to write large posts of rubbish. So if that is working then great.
As for ypride(py.ru or whatever), "Agree with the majority of this except that the market can fall just because it falls"
So you have a definite reason why Banksy prices go up...but no idea why they go down? You two should pen an economics book together.
Agree with the majority of this except that the market can fall just because it falls. There's often no rhyme or reason to it. That's true of stocks, cryptocurrency, art, baseball cards and pretty much anything else. There are long-standing members on here who will tell you they bought a lot of Artist X's work well above cost 3 years ago and now can't sell for less than cost. Markets have whims just like women. They don't always need a reason. There's a reason for a fall even if it's people shorting the market or trying to manipulate it. I'm only referring to the banksy market in my post btw although supply and demand will be part of the reason behind stik and invader rises although in my opinion there has been some manipulation of the latter but I couldn't back that up with facts. when it comes to other artists depreciating, a lot off that is due to releasing too many works and also the ramping which goes On. ย as for high flyer, he's welcome to his opinion as am I but if you have to have a dig at someone have the decency to make it a decent one. I'm finding lots of reasons not to post on here and he is one of them. It's great if you post but I want to put you off if you're going to write large posts of rubbish. So if that is working then great. As for ypride(py.ru or whatever), "Agree with the majority of this except that the market can fall just because it falls" So you have a definite reason why Banksy prices go up...but no idea why they go down? You two should pen an economics book together.
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pr.yu
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Banksy - Pink Donut - SOLD, by pr.yu on Sept 24, 2017 17:04:17 GMT 1, There's a reason for a fall even if it's people shorting the market or trying to manipulate it. I'm only referring to the banksy market in my post btw although supply and demand will be part of the reason behind stik and invader rises although in my opinion there has been some manipulation of the latter but I couldn't back that up with facts. when it comes to other artists depreciating, a lot off that is due to releasing too many works and also the ramping which goes On. ย as for high flyer, he's welcome to his opinion as am I but if you have to have a dig at someone have the decency to make it a decent one. I'm finding lots of reasons not to post on here and he is one of them. It's great if you post but I want to put you off if you're going to write large posts of rubbish. So if that is working then great. As for ypride(py.ru or whatever), "Agree with the majority of this except that the market can fall just because it falls" So you have a definite reason why Banksy prices go up...but no idea why they go down? You two should pen an economics book together.
Good idea!
There's a reason for a fall even if it's people shorting the market or trying to manipulate it. I'm only referring to the banksy market in my post btw although supply and demand will be part of the reason behind stik and invader rises although in my opinion there has been some manipulation of the latter but I couldn't back that up with facts. when it comes to other artists depreciating, a lot off that is due to releasing too many works and also the ramping which goes On. ย as for high flyer, he's welcome to his opinion as am I but if you have to have a dig at someone have the decency to make it a decent one. I'm finding lots of reasons not to post on here and he is one of them. It's great if you post but I want to put you off if you're going to write large posts of rubbish. So if that is working then great. As for ypride(py.ru or whatever), "Agree with the majority of this except that the market can fall just because it falls" So you have a definite reason why Banksy prices go up...but no idea why they go down? You two should pen an economics book together. Good idea!
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