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The man who made Banksy famous, by Daniel Silk on Aug 25, 2017 20:39:37 GMT 1, The man who made Banksy famous
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The man who made Banksy famous, by Daniel Silk on Aug 25, 2017 20:50:10 GMT 1, "The man who made Banksy famous"
Actually I think that statement is pretty accurate. I mean it does appear it was his involvement that really kicked things off for Banksy, and even after their split it was largely Steve's continued promotion that kept the ball rolling.
What do you think?
"The man who made Banksy famous"
Actually I think that statement is pretty accurate. I mean it does appear it was his involvement that really kicked things off for Banksy, and even after their split it was largely Steve's continued promotion that kept the ball rolling.
What do you think?
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The man who made Banksy famous, by Daniel Silk on Aug 25, 2017 20:56:02 GMT 1,
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The man who made Banksy famous, by Daniel Silk on Aug 25, 2017 20:57:30 GMT 1,
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The man who made Banksy famous, by Deleted on Aug 25, 2017 21:07:03 GMT 1, I think you are right to a point, but I think the real turning point was when Brad and Angelina were reported to have bought one which made Banksy mainstream news then all the muggles heard of him and that ball just rolled and does not seem to be stopping anytime soon.
I think you are right to a point, but I think the real turning point was when Brad and Angelina were reported to have bought one which made Banksy mainstream news then all the muggles heard of him and that ball just rolled and does not seem to be stopping anytime soon.
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The man who made Banksy famous, by Daniel Silk on Aug 25, 2017 21:07:28 GMT 1, I think if Steve Lazarides was still officially involved in brand Banksy I'm sure things would be much much better than they are now. Maybe that sounds like a crazy thing to say, but honestly I think he could have handled things much better over the years. Even with his hands tied by not being officially connected to Banksy, he has done an incredible amount to spread the Banksy name in the right circles in the art world.
I think if Steve Lazarides was still officially involved in brand Banksy I'm sure things would be much much better than they are now. Maybe that sounds like a crazy thing to say, but honestly I think he could have handled things much better over the years. Even with his hands tied by not being officially connected to Banksy, he has done an incredible amount to spread the Banksy name in the right circles in the art world.
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The man who made Banksy famous, by Lroy on Aug 26, 2017 6:28:02 GMT 1, I like Banksy installations ( Dismaland , Walledof hotel ) and artworks in the streets since he walks in his own ....
Ok Lazarides helped ( not so hard when you know the People famous or infamous with a big wallet ) , as some others have done with their artists ... and he made a lot of profits also
Funny that Invader also this year seems to have taken distance.
Just a question Daniel : do you make this ode to Steve Lazarides because a lot are criticizing him yesterday or today ?
To speak about famous, yes ( for us and a lot ) , Banksy and Invader are famous ... But less than some " People " that does not merit it anyway.
Look, in the Dismaland queue, people even some youths , a lot, did not know really who was Banksy ?! They did not know per example that he was, he is an artist...
incredible no ?
I like Banksy installations ( Dismaland , Walledof hotel ) and artworks in the streets since he walks in his own ....
Ok Lazarides helped ( not so hard when you know the People famous or infamous with a big wallet ) , as some others have done with their artists ... and he made a lot of profits also
Funny that Invader also this year seems to have taken distance.
Just a question Daniel : do you make this ode to Steve Lazarides because a lot are criticizing him yesterday or today ?
To speak about famous, yes ( for us and a lot ) , Banksy and Invader are famous ... But less than some " People " that does not merit it anyway.
Look, in the Dismaland queue, people even some youths , a lot, did not know really who was Banksy ?! They did not know per example that he was, he is an artist...
incredible no ?
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The man who made Banksy famous, by thomasmer on Aug 27, 2017 1:12:39 GMT 1, I think if Steve Lazarides was still officially involved in brand Banksy I'm sure things would be much much better than they are now. Maybe that sounds like a crazy thing to say, but honestly I think he could have handled things much better over the years. Even with his hands tied by not being officially connected to Banksy, he has done an incredible amount to spread the Banksy name in the right circles in the art world.
I think if Steve Lazarides was still officially involved in brand Banksy I'm sure things would be much much better than they are now. Maybe that sounds like a crazy thing to say, but honestly I think he could have handled things much better over the years. Even with his hands tied by not being officially connected to Banksy, he has done an incredible amount to spread the Banksy name in the right circles in the art world. You are kidding right? He's both morally and financially bankrupt, just a car salesman coke monkey. |
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The man who made Banksy famous, by Laugh Now 10 on Aug 27, 2017 2:42:43 GMT 1,
nice sepia morons cameo 
nice sepia morons cameo |
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The man who made Banksy famous, by Daniel Silk on Aug 27, 2017 11:34:10 GMT 1, I think if Steve Lazarides was still officially involved in brand Banksy I'm sure things would be much much better than they are now. Maybe that sounds like a crazy thing to say, but honestly I think he could have handled things much better over the years. Even with his hands tied by not being officially connected to Banksy, he has done an incredible amount to spread the Banksy name in the right circles in the art world. You are kidding right? He's both morally and financially bankrupt, just a car salesman coke monkey.
I would say it's coz he's good at his job.
I think if Steve Lazarides was still officially involved in brand Banksy I'm sure things would be much much better than they are now. Maybe that sounds like a crazy thing to say, but honestly I think he could have handled things much better over the years. Even with his hands tied by not being officially connected to Banksy, he has done an incredible amount to spread the Banksy name in the right circles in the art world. You are kidding right? He's both morally and financially bankrupt, just a car salesman coke monkey. If that's true, why are so many artists such as 3D and Invader still involved with Lazarides Gallery? I would say it's coz he's good at his job. |
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The man who made Banksy famous, by sugar72 on Aug 27, 2017 12:20:26 GMT 1, I think if Steve Lazarides was still officially involved in brand Banksy I'm sure things would be much much better than they are now. Maybe that sounds like a crazy thing to say, but honestly I think he could have handled things much better over the years. Even with his hands tied by not being officially connected to Banksy, he has done an incredible amount to spread the Banksy name in the right circles in the art world. You are kidding right?ย He's both morally and financially bankrupt, just a car salesman coke monkey.
Easy to villify such a public figure and as Daniel said, people wouldn't work with him unless he was good at what he does regardless of his extracurricular activities. People are so quick to pick up the flaming torches and pitchforks!
I think if Steve Lazarides was still officially involved in brand Banksy I'm sure things would be much much better than they are now. Maybe that sounds like a crazy thing to say, but honestly I think he could have handled things much better over the years. Even with his hands tied by not being officially connected to Banksy, he has done an incredible amount to spread the Banksy name in the right circles in the art world. You are kidding right?ย He's both morally and financially bankrupt, just a car salesman coke monkey. Easy to villify such a public figure and as Daniel said, people wouldn't work with him unless he was good at what he does regardless of his extracurricular activities. People are so quick to pick up the flaming torches and pitchforks! |
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The man who made Banksy famous, by Cookiemonster on Aug 27, 2017 12:42:26 GMT 1, I think if Steve Lazarides was still officially involved in brand Banksy I'm sure things would be much much better than they are now. Maybe that sounds like a crazy thing to say, but honestly I think he could have handled things much better over the years. Even with his hands tied by not being officially connected to Banksy, he has done an incredible amount to spread the Banksy name in the right circles in the art world. You are kidding right? He's both morally and financially bankrupt, just a car salesman coke monkey.
The constant rinsing of old images with ap's for vips - in your opinion is that acceptable?
I think if Steve Lazarides was still officially involved in brand Banksy I'm sure things would be much much better than they are now. Maybe that sounds like a crazy thing to say, but honestly I think he could have handled things much better over the years. Even with his hands tied by not being officially connected to Banksy, he has done an incredible amount to spread the Banksy name in the right circles in the art world. You are kidding right? He's both morally and financially bankrupt, just a car salesman coke monkey. as if he is the only one!!! The constant rinsing of old images with ap's for vips - in your opinion is that acceptable? |
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The man who made Banksy famous, by sugar72 on Aug 27, 2017 12:59:43 GMT 1, As a business model of people keep buying and he will keep selling them. He wouldn't do it if the market wasn't there
As a business model of people keep buying and he will keep selling them. He wouldn't do it if the market wasn't there
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The man who made Banksy famous, by chainsaw on Aug 27, 2017 13:03:21 GMT 1, You are kidding right? He's both morally and financially bankrupt, just a car salesman coke monkey.
not financially
I wonder how they figured this one out
You are kidding right? He's both morally and financially bankrupt, just a car salesman coke monkey. not financially I wonder how they figured this one out |
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The man who made Banksy famous, by Daniel Silk on Aug 27, 2017 13:11:29 GMT 1, I like Steves honesty in interviews.
He happily talks about marketing the art, people investing in art and increasing values, while so many of the artists dishonesty pretend they are not interested in the money and increases in the value of their work. But really it's the Artists themselves who are the ones who can really control the market by deciding on edition sizes and prices.
I like Steves honesty in interviews.
He happily talks about marketing the art, people investing in art and increasing values, while so many of the artists dishonesty pretend they are not interested in the money and increases in the value of their work. But really it's the Artists themselves who are the ones who can really control the market by deciding on edition sizes and prices.
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The man who made Banksy famous, by Lroy on Aug 27, 2017 13:29:30 GMT 1, " But really it's the Artists themselves who are the ones who can really control the market by deciding on edition sizes and prices. "
I don't think so if there is a contract.
As for music, movies. Entertainments, sports, etc ,, In galleries, for great artists, there is a PR, a producer, a lawyer, manager etc ... who decides of prices, the places, rules, etc ...
As for Banksy, there is contracts mentioning the " rules " for people working with or for, or who as working for, to never mention the name, nor speak about what is secrecy, etc , etc...
when I say " rules " we can call it ethic too.
But I agree ( And that what happened to Laz with Banksy first then to Invader ) you can denounce this contract or just tell the manager/gallerist to F.. off .
Maybe I am wrong maybe not.
" But really it's the Artists themselves who are the ones who can really control the market by deciding on edition sizes and prices. "
I don't think so if there is a contract.
As for music, movies. Entertainments, sports, etc ,, In galleries, for great artists, there is a PR, a producer, a lawyer, manager etc ... who decides of prices, the places, rules, etc ...
As for Banksy, there is contracts mentioning the " rules " for people working with or for, or who as working for, to never mention the name, nor speak about what is secrecy, etc , etc...
when I say " rules " we can call it ethic too.
But I agree ( And that what happened to Laz with Banksy first then to Invader ) you can denounce this contract or just tell the manager/gallerist to F.. off .
Maybe I am wrong maybe not.
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The man who made Banksy famous, by Deleted on Aug 27, 2017 13:30:07 GMT 1, I like him too, and he's much needed for the scene. Don't forget for every Banksy or Harrington he's supported dozens of other artists to varying degrees of success and without that support the urban art scene wouldn't be where it is today. He's also put on some fantastic shows over the years, which have massively raised the profile of so many artists. Would be great to see another Bedlam type show again.
I like him too, and he's much needed for the scene. Don't forget for every Banksy or Harrington he's supported dozens of other artists to varying degrees of success and without that support the urban art scene wouldn't be where it is today. He's also put on some fantastic shows over the years, which have massively raised the profile of so many artists. Would be great to see another Bedlam type show again.
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The man who made Banksy famous, by Cookiemonster on Aug 27, 2017 13:36:15 GMT 1, As a business model of people keep buying and he will keep selling them. He wouldn't do it if the market wasn't there
As a business model of people keep buying and he will keep selling them. He wouldn't do it if the market wasn't there that market being for financial reasons? I agree though it is a business, but thats not what Banksy was about, so if the game has changed, is it for the better? Silky thinks not. |
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The man who made Banksy famous, by Daniel Silk on Aug 27, 2017 13:42:12 GMT 1, " But really it's the Artists themselves who are the ones who can really control the market by deciding on edition sizes and prices. " I don't think so if there is a contract. As for music, movies. Entertainments, sports, etc ,, In galleries, for great artists, there is a PR, a producer, a lawyer, manager etc ... who decides of prices, the places, rules, etc ... As for Banksy, there is contracts mentioning the " rules " for people working with or for, or who as working for, to never mention the name, nor speak about what is secrecy, etc , etc... when I say " rules " we can call it ethic too. But I agree ( And that what happened to Laz with Banksy first then to Invader ) you can denounce this contract or just tell the manager/gallerist to F.. off . Maybe I am wrong maybe not.
" But really it's the Artists themselves who are the ones who can really control the market by deciding on edition sizes and prices. " I don't think so if there is a contract. As for music, movies. Entertainments, sports, etc ,, In galleries, for great artists, there is a PR, a producer, a lawyer, manager etc ... who decides of prices, the places, rules, etc ... As for Banksy, there is contracts mentioning the " rules " for people working with or for, or who as working for, to never mention the name, nor speak about what is secrecy, etc , etc... when I say " rules " we can call it ethic too. But I agree ( And that what happened to Laz with Banksy first then to Invader ) you can denounce this contract or just tell the manager/gallerist to F.. off . Maybe I am wrong maybe not. True, but those Artists have signed those contracts. |
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The man who made Banksy famous, by sugar72 on Aug 27, 2017 13:43:34 GMT 1, As a business model of people keep buying and he will keep selling them. He wouldn't do it if the market wasn't there that market being for financial reasons?ย I agree though it is a business, but thats not what Banksy was about, so if the game has changed, is it for the better?ย Silky thinks not.
Agree but at end of day he has to balance emotive issues like who he is going to promote versus business/ financial considerations. A tough job
As a business model of people keep buying and he will keep selling them. He wouldn't do it if the market wasn't there that market being for financial reasons?ย I agree though it is a business, but thats not what Banksy was about, so if the game has changed, is it for the better?ย Silky thinks not. Agree but at end of day he has to balance emotive issues like who he is going to promote versus business/ financial considerations. A tough job |
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The man who made Banksy famous, by Daniel Silk on Aug 27, 2017 13:49:50 GMT 1, As a business model of people keep buying and he will keep selling them. He wouldn't do it if the market wasn't there that market being for financial reasons? I agree though it is a business, but thats not what Banksy was about, so if the game has changed, is it for the better? Silky thinks not.
Depends on better for who.
Lovers of art as a pure and simple image to enjoy are losing out due to small editions and high prices, but for collectors/investors, Galleries and Artists they are doing well with the current trends. I guess Banksy now is in control of if, what, when, how much, prints are released, and so far that's meant even higher values and prices.
i would have thought if Steve was in control he would be releasing maybe 3 Banksy print editions a year, and I would have thought that would mean lower print values overall.
As a business model of people keep buying and he will keep selling them. He wouldn't do it if the market wasn't there that market being for financial reasons? I agree though it is a business, but thats not what Banksy was about, so if the game has changed, is it for the better? Silky thinks not. "Is it for the better?" Depends on better for who. Lovers of art as a pure and simple image to enjoy are losing out due to small editions and high prices, but for collectors/investors, Galleries and Artists they are doing well with the current trends. I guess Banksy now is in control of if, what, when, how much, prints are released, and so far that's meant even higher values and prices. i would have thought if Steve was in control he would be releasing maybe 3 Banksy print editions a year, and I would have thought that would mean lower print values overall. |
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The man who made Banksy famous, by Cookiemonster on Aug 27, 2017 13:52:29 GMT 1, No its not an easy job, but for a man with that much clear talent (Banksy), the continued rinsing of old images is that because they need the money or because they can get away with it?
No its not an easy job, but for a man with that much clear talent (Banksy), the continued rinsing of old images is that because they need the money or because they can get away with it?
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The man who made Banksy famous, by Daniel Silk on Aug 27, 2017 13:56:00 GMT 1, What option do you thinks best?
1. Things as they are, with no Banksy prints being released and prices rising well beyond most people's pockets.
2. 3 Banksy prints released every year, editions of 1,000 priced at ยฃ1,000 each.
What option do you thinks best?
1. Things as they are, with no Banksy prints being released and prices rising well beyond most people's pockets.
2. 3 Banksy prints released every year, editions of 1,000 priced at ยฃ1,000 each.
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The man who made Banksy famous, by nobokov on Aug 27, 2017 15:27:01 GMT 1, What option do you thinks best? 1. Things as they are, with no Banksy prints being released and prices rising well beyond most people's pockets. 2. 3 Banksy prints released every year, editions of 1,000 priced at ยฃ1,000 each.
I also love the rush from limited print releases...
Option 2 puts a limitation on the edition and limits it to those who can afford ยฃ1000, so I'm not sure that would change anything as people still flip unsigned movie posters with edition sizes of 500. If you're against flipping, I think that option 2 would be an unlimited print release at Walmart prices screened by machines or sweatshop workers. There would be no reason for a secondary market if the artwork is always available on the primary.
What option do you thinks best? 1. Things as they are, with no Banksy prints being released and prices rising well beyond most people's pockets. 2. 3 Banksy prints released every year, editions of 1,000 priced at ยฃ1,000 each. Option 1. I'd rather art from the top artists to be for the limited few to act as an investment vehicle. I can always just take a high res jpeg and print the image myself to hang for my own pleasure if I'm unwilling or unable to pay the going rate. I also love the rush from limited print releases... Option 2 puts a limitation on the edition and limits it to those who can afford ยฃ1000, so I'm not sure that would change anything as people still flip unsigned movie posters with edition sizes of 500. If you're against flipping, I think that option 2 would be an unlimited print release at Walmart prices screened by machines or sweatshop workers. There would be no reason for a secondary market if the artwork is always available on the primary. |
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The man who made Banksy famous, by willamsa on Aug 27, 2017 21:50:20 GMT 1, Should have called this thread 'The man who made Laz famous'
Should have called this thread 'The man who made Laz famous'
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The man who made Banksy famous, by oxfordwelshchap on Aug 27, 2017 22:31:06 GMT 1, What option do you thinks best? 1. Things as they are, with no Banksy prints being released and prices rising well beyond most people's pockets. 2. 3 Banksy prints released every year, editions of 1,000 priced at ยฃ1,000 each.
What option do you thinks best? 1. Things as they are, with no Banksy prints being released and prices rising well beyond most people's pockets. 2. 3 Banksy prints released every year, editions of 1,000 priced at ยฃ1,000 each. That depends on who you pose the question to. To those who have 'invested' in an overpriced banksy print and expect inflation on the value then option 1. To joe average who wants a banksy for the art to go on the wall then maybe a modified option 2 (I say modified as 1K is no walking around cash!) |
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The man who made Banksy famous, by Snakes on Aug 29, 2017 19:54:23 GMT 1, I never knew Alexi Sayle had something to do with Banksy. No doubt where Banksy got some of his humour from.
I never knew Alexi Sayle had something to do with Banksy. No doubt where Banksy got some of his humour from.
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The man who made Banksy famous, by Deleted on Aug 29, 2017 21:23:27 GMT 1, Preferred him in Kojak.
Preferred him in Kojak.
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The man who made Banksy famous, by Deleted on Aug 29, 2017 21:27:19 GMT 1, Dr Evil if you ask me.
Dr Evil if you ask me.
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