[atomone]

Anyone know what the queue is looking like at present?...

[darren6]

Sept 6, 2017 12:13:18 GMT 1 Schrödinger's Chat said:

Oh snap, ignore me I'm being an idiot. Now I've checked the print the correct way up I can confirm it is numbered, signed and has a COA.

😳

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[Schrödinger's Chat]

Sept 6, 2017 13:15:48 GMT 1 darren6 said:

Sept 6, 2017 12:13:18 GMT 1 Schrödinger's Chat said:

Oh snap, ignore me I'm being an idiot. Now I've checked the print the correct way up I can confirm it is numbered, signed and has a COA.

😳

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Spoiler alert:

From memory the prices were:
Mug - 3 photos of your choice
T-shirt - 3 photos of their choice or 3 WhatsApp screen grabs of their choice
Print - 5 photos of their choice or 5 WhatsApp of their choice.

Everything shared will whizz around on screens in the window of the shop for today and tomorrow.

They only choose photos with you in, anyone else in the photos will be blurred.

[.dappy]

http://instagram.com/p/BYsu20RgT05

[soupy]

hope the shirts and other stuff make their way online as well as the prints.  just have to wait it out.

if i could be there in person, seems like a rather harmless data share.  i was thinking you would have to offer up actual personal data.

[gd79]

I think I also read somewhere that they delete the lot after 30 days, so hardly a big ask

[JW]

Went there after work. Naturally all the prints were gone for the day but I got a t-shirt and mug in exchange for 6 photos of my choice. Can't complain about that.

Apparently there would be about another 25 prints released tomorrow at 8:30am so I'm out of luck on that front given I'm at work then.

They do keep the photos for 30 days. They asked me to select photos of just me in it... which was a struggle as I'm not big on selfies. But they crop/blur out other people anyway.

[iamzero]

I think he has something planned regarding clothing too...

[Schrödinger's Chat]

Article about the store here - Eine says he would not share his data for a print.

www.cnet.com/uk/news/street-art-project-puts-a-price-on-your-privacy-ben-eine/

[nobokov]

I think Kapersky and Eine just formed a partnership with the National Sex Offenders Database. The photos you shared will be posted in the database, but only for 30 days. Hope that you enjoy the prints...

[rockbeer]

Prints all gone, needless to say, by the time I got there this afternoon. But I willingly exchanged a few photos of their choice for a T shirt & mug - and was happy enough to find a little K postcard hiding in the free tote bag they gave me.

I had a curious conversation with the guy there. The whole thing was a strange kind of affair. If the idea, as he and the documentation explained, was to increase awareness of the way people don't value their data then it seems to achieved that most effectively - people (myself included) had no hesitation in handing their devices over for this random to pull off whatever he wanted. On the other hand, if they hoped to encourage people to place a higher value on their data then I can't help thinking the rewards should have been given to people who refused to hand over their phones.

In the end, of course, it was neither - just a marketing activity by Kaspersky, with the complicity of Ben Eine to lend it a veneer of coolness rather than being just another publicity stunt by another faceless IT corporate.

Still, I'm happy with my goodies and I hardly had to queue at all.

[RoboJ]

By chance I wondered past. Didn't entertain the offer though.

http://instagram.com/p/BYvQEKxnm9-

[Dahmer]

couldnt make it over there in time sadly, really wanted a print but only just finished work

[snipt]

Sept 7, 2017 17:30:23 GMT 1 nobokov said:

I think Kapersky and Eine just formed a partnership with the National Sex Offenders Database. The photos you shared will be posted in the database, but only for 30 days. Hope that you enjoy the prints...

I wouldn't doubt there. There has to be a reason that these specific items are being requested. As a person in the cyber security field, it's amazing how little value people place on any of their data. Quite a bit can be done with just a few screen grabs and an out of contest message.

Needless to say, very cool concept and brilliant execution! Hats off to Eine.

[soupy]

eh.  there's only an illusion of privacy anymore.  all our data is out there in a million different places.  i find comfort in not that my information is secure (because it isn't), but that there is safety in numbers.  hide in the herd.  i don't see what the big deal is about posting a few photos on the screen for a few days.  to anyone else, it's just random people like the photos that come when you buy a picture frame.  no one really cares or pays attention.  posting screenshots of text convos would be funny.  it's all just a bunch of joking amongst friends and family.  the majority of it wouldn't even make sense without context.

[rockbeer]

Sept 7, 2017 19:00:13 GMT 1 snipt said:

Sept 7, 2017 17:30:23 GMT 1 nobokov said:

I think Kapersky and Eine just formed a partnership with the National Sex Offenders Database. The photos you shared will be posted in the database, but only for 30 days. Hope that you enjoy the prints...

I wouldn't doubt there. There has to be a reason that these specific items are being requested. As a person in the cyber security field, it's amazing how little value people place on any of their data. Quite a bit can be done with just a few screen grabs and an out of contest message.

Needless to say, very cool concept and brilliant execution! Hats off to Eine.

Sounds a bit tin foil hat to me. I suspect you might be overthinking it.

Having witnessed the selection process first hand, it wasn't exactly sinister. He just basically chose the first eight vaguely interesting photos he saw that wouldn't take a whole load of photoshopping to make them usable. Or perhaps he was a great actor, brilliantly faking not really giving a damn.

That said, you're totally right about how easily data can be used out of context to create a misleading impression.

[snipt]

Sept 7, 2017 19:27:56 GMT 1 rockbeer said:

Sept 7, 2017 19:00:13 GMT 1 snipt said:

I wouldn't doubt there. There has to be a reason that these specific items are being requested. As a person in the cyber security field, it's amazing how little value people place on any of their data. Quite a bit can be done with just a few screen grabs and an out of contest message.

Needless to say, very cool concept and brilliant execution! Hats off to Eine.

Sounds a bit tin foil hat to me. I suspect you might be overthinking it.

Having witnessed the selection process first hand, it wasn't exactly sinister. He just basically chose the first eight vaguely interesting photos he saw that wouldn't take a whole load of photoshopping to make them usable. Or perhaps he was a great actor, brilliantly faking not really giving a damn.

That said, you're totally right about how easily data can be used out of context to create a misleading impression.

Not thinking the aim here is very sinister, but I think we'd all be pretty naive to think that with a 30 day hold, there won't be a lesson to all of this to raise awareness by Kaspersky. Regardless of what people think, with sinister intentions, a name and 5 pictures can be all that's needed to wreak some real havoc. 

"Take This Lollipop" is a very basic, yet eye opening demonstration. Give it a look if you haven't seen it.

www.takethislollipop.com/

[zefarrett]

Would have for sure given up some photos for a shirt and mug. Dang.

[soupy]

case in point.... cyber "security" and your privacy are all but a myth these days. 

Equifax Says Cyberattack May Have Affected 143 Million Customers

"Equifax, one of the three major consumer credit reporting agencies, said on Thursday that hackers had gained access to company data that potentially compromised sensitive information for 143 million American consumers, including Social Security numbers and driver’s license numbers."

www.nytimes.com/2017/09/07/business/equifax-cyberattack.html

[cizza19]

Sept 7, 2017 19:27:56 GMT 1 rockbeer said:

Sept 7, 2017 19:00:13 GMT 1 snipt said:

I wouldn't doubt there. There has to be a reason that these specific items are being requested. As a person in the cyber security field, it's amazing how little value people place on any of their data. Quite a bit can be done with just a few screen grabs and an out of contest message.

Needless to say, very cool concept and brilliant execution! Hats off to Eine.

Sounds a bit tin foil hat to me. I suspect you might be overthinking it.

Having witnessed the selection process first hand, it wasn't exactly sinister. He just basically chose the first eight vaguely interesting photos he saw that wouldn't take a whole load of photoshopping to make them usable. Or perhaps he was a great actor, brilliantly faking not really giving a damn.

That said, you're totally right about how easily data can be used out of context to create a misleading impression.

yeah I'm with you on this, in fact the 5 photos they took from my phone were 1 photo of dinner at a restaurant, 1 photo of an overwater villa in the maldives, 1 photo of my wifes hand/wedding ring, 1 photo of my crotch after I spilled a drink (literally just a close up of my crotch, and a daft selfie I sent the wife of me and my mums dog after a 5k run 

so yeah 1 picture of my face out of 5 photos, albeit it an embarrassing one, not one you could use for anythign nefarious 

[snipt]

Sept 8, 2017 1:18:42 GMT 1 soupy said:

case in point.... cyber "security" and your privacy are all but a myth these days. 

Equifax Says Cyberattack May Have Affected 143 Million Customers

"Equifax, one of the three major consumer credit reporting agencies, said on Thursday that hackers had gained access to company data that potentially compromised sensitive information for 143 million American consumers, including Social Security numbers and driver’s license numbers."

www.nytimes.com/2017/09/07/business/equifax-cyberattack.html

Not so much, TBH. Those that added a credit freeze to all 3 reporting agencies were spared. I can't stress enough the importance of locking your data up as tight as possible, always opting for Two Factor Authentication (TFA), always using randomized passwords and TFA encrypted vaults for them, and implementing the usage of a yubi key or something similar on all personal devices.

Then again, living with the acceptance that privacy is a myth is much easier. On that note, my data wasn't breached in this exploit...so there's that. 

[soupy]

Sept 9, 2017 0:10:14 GMT 1 snipt said:

Sept 8, 2017 1:18:42 GMT 1 soupy said:

case in point.... cyber "security" and your privacy are all but a myth these days. 

Not so much, TBH. Those that added a credit freeze to all 3 reporting agencies were spared. I can't stress enough the importance of locking your data up as tight as possible, always opting for Two Factor Authentication (TFA), always using randomized passwords and TFA encrypted vaults for them, and implementing the usage of a yubi key or something similar on all personal devices.

Then again, living with the acceptance that privacy is a myth is much easier. On that note, my data wasn't breached in this exploit...so there's that. 

none of what you stated would have prevented your data being taken by the hackers.  equifax is a credit reporting agency and if you have credit... your "private" data is on their system.  just like your data is with credit card companies, government agencies, etc (all of whom are vulnerable to hackers).  in this case, you you simply got lucky by not being one of the 143 million people impacted by the breach.  then again, you can live with the belief that your privacy is protected simply because you use TFA or randomized passwords.

[snipt]

Sept 9, 2017 1:19:50 GMT 1 soupy said:

Sept 9, 2017 0:10:14 GMT 1 snipt said:

Not so much, TBH. Those that added a credit freeze to all 3 reporting agencies were spared. I can't stress enough the importance of locking your data up as tight as possible, always opting for Two Factor Authentication (TFA), always using randomized passwords and TFA encrypted vaults for them, and implementing the usage of a yubi key or something similar on all personal devices.

Then again, living with the acceptance that privacy is a myth is much easier. On that note, my data wasn't breached in this exploit...so there's that. 

none of what you stated would have prevented your data being taken by the hackers.  equifax is a credit reporting agency and if you have credit... your "private" data is on their system.  just like your data is with credit card companies, government agencies, etc (all of whom are vulnerable to hackers).  in this case, you you simply got lucky by not being one of the 143 million people impacted by the breach.  then again, you can live with the belief that your privacy is protected simply because you use TFA or randomized passwords.

The people in my family (and extended family) that had credit locks, escaped breach. My parents didn't, and both were breached. As more info comes to light, I'm sure we'll see correlation. 

Edit: soupy, I don't mean to debate with you, nor was it my intention. I apologize for derailing this thread. The concept of this show piqued my curiosity and I wish I were on location to see what kind of data they borrowed. In no way do I believe this has sinister undertones, but I think part of this project will include the usage of some of this data to bring awareness to those that divulged any info. If not, it was a totally wasted opportunity on their end.

The tips I gave aside from the credit freezes, were just overall tips to keep people safe. If you believe the cyber security field is mythical and you want to use quotations around it, then that's your opinion and I respect that. In the end, we're all just people on a board sharing the common thread of art. No need for non-art based banter. I hope you have a wonderful weekend! 

[theurbancurator100]

Sept 8, 2017 11:42:04 GMT 1 cizza19 said:

Sept 7, 2017 19:27:56 GMT 1 rockbeer said:

Sounds a bit tin foil hat to me. I suspect you might be overthinking it.

Having witnessed the selection process first hand, it wasn't exactly sinister. He just basically chose the first eight vaguely interesting photos he saw that wouldn't take a whole load of photoshopping to make them usable. Or perhaps he was a great actor, brilliantly faking not really giving a damn.

That said, you're totally right about how easily data can be used out of context to create a misleading impression.

yeah I'm with you on this, in fact the 5 photos they took from my phone were 1 photo of dinner at a restaurant, 1 photo of an overwater villa in the maldives, 1 photo of my wifes hand/wedding ring, 1 photo of my crotch after I spilled a drink (literally just a close up of my crotch, and a daft selfie I sent the wife of me and my mums dog after a 5k run 

so yeah 1 picture of my face out of 5 photos, albeit it an embarrassing one, not one you could use for anythign nefarious 

I thought the concept was quite original. I gave them I think it was 5 photos and a couple screenshots from my phone and walked away with 3 "K" Eine items. Happy days

[soupy]

www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/sep/13/us-government-bans-kaspersky-lab-russian-spying

September 9, 2017:  The US government has banned federal agencies from using cybersecurity software made by Russian company Kaspersky Lab over fears that the firm has ties to state-sponsored spying programs.

On Wednesday, the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) issued a directive, first reported by the Washington Post, calling on departments and agencies to identify any use of Kaspersky antivirus software and develop plans to remove them and replace them with alternatives within the next three months.

“The department is concerned about the ties between certain Kaspersky officials and Russian intelligence and other government agencies, and requirements under Russian law that allow Russian intelligence agencies to request or compel assistance from Kaspersky and to intercept communications transiting Russian networks,” the DHS said in a statement.

“The risk that the Russian government, whether acting on its own or in collaboration with Kaspersky, could capitalize on access provided by Kaspersky products to compromise federal information and information systems directly implicates US national security.”

[WOOF]

Sept 22, 2017 14:03:59 GMT 1 theurbancurator100 said:

Sept 8, 2017 11:42:04 GMT 1 cizza19 said:

yeah I'm with you on this, in fact the 5 photos they took from my phone were 1 photo of dinner at a restaurant, 1 photo of an overwater villa in the maldives, 1 photo of my wifes hand/wedding ring, 1 photo of my crotch after I spilled a drink (literally just a close up of my crotch, and a daft selfie I sent the wife of me and my mums dog after a 5k run 

so yeah 1 picture of my face out of 5 photos, albeit it an embarrassing one, not one you could use for anythign nefarious 

I thought the concept was quite original. I gave them I think it was 5 photos and a couple screenshots from my phone and walked away with 3 "K" Eine items. Happy days

k...k......k........?

[jay4077]

Oct 31, 2017 1:08:55 GMT 1 soupy said:

www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/sep/13/us-government-bans-kaspersky-lab-russian-spying

September 9, 2017:  The US government has banned federal agencies from using cybersecurity software made by Russian company Kaspersky Lab over fears that the firm has ties to state-sponsored spying programs.

On Wednesday, the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) issued a directive, first reported by the Washington Post, calling on departments and agencies to identify any use of Kaspersky antivirus software and develop plans to remove them and replace them with alternatives within the next three months.

“The department is concerned about the ties between certain Kaspersky officials and Russian intelligence and other government agencies, and requirements under Russian law that allow Russian intelligence agencies to request or compel assistance from Kaspersky and to intercept communications transiting Russian networks,” the DHS said in a statement.

“The risk that the Russian government, whether acting on its own or in collaboration with Kaspersky, could capitalize on access provided by Kaspersky products to compromise federal information and information systems directly implicates US national security.”

So the "K" actually stood for KGB