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'Banksy Collection' by STOT21stCplanB, by rob123rob on Aug 16, 2007 20:34:23 GMT 1, Sometimes art can be just funny, stupid, unnecessary, and the story behind it, around it, makes it worth living outside of the bin. So, yes, I admitted to buying one. By the looks of things they are all going to sell out soon, so I am not the only fool.
Sometimes art can be just funny, stupid, unnecessary, and the story behind it, around it, makes it worth living outside of the bin. So, yes, I admitted to buying one. By the looks of things they are all going to sell out soon, so I am not the only fool.
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'Banksy Collection' by STOT21stCplanB, by rob123rob on Aug 16, 2007 20:36:34 GMT 1, Maybe, just maybe, this is his last big f-u to the art world. Or maybe they are killing themselves laughing at STOT. Either way, you can all take turns popping by my place to have a peak at her...
Maybe, just maybe, this is his last big f-u to the art world. Or maybe they are killing themselves laughing at STOT. Either way, you can all take turns popping by my place to have a peak at her...
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'Banksy Collection' by STOT21stCplanB, by mcnuts on Aug 16, 2007 20:37:00 GMT 1, so your argument is one of pure financial speculation. There's gold in them there hills. Want to buy some Bre-x shares en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bre-X?
so your argument is one of pure financial speculation. There's gold in them there hills. Want to buy some Bre-x shares en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bre-X?
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'Banksy Collection' by STOT21stCplanB, by rob123rob on Aug 16, 2007 20:39:18 GMT 1, my arguement on this ugly canvas that I bought, yes, is completely one of financial speculation. I surely didn't buy it because it's pretty. And occassionally, once in a millienium, this kind of odds-against speculation turns up ok. And for 35 pounds, why not? Surely won't be the last ugly thing I buy (there's an IKEA just down the block from me).
my arguement on this ugly canvas that I bought, yes, is completely one of financial speculation. I surely didn't buy it because it's pretty. And occassionally, once in a millienium, this kind of odds-against speculation turns up ok. And for 35 pounds, why not? Surely won't be the last ugly thing I buy (there's an IKEA just down the block from me).
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'Banksy Collection' by STOT21stCplanB, by goffy on Aug 16, 2007 20:42:53 GMT 1, I bought the first one because I liked the joke. But the joke wore thin after they brought out more.
I bought the first one because I liked the joke. But the joke wore thin after they brought out more.
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'Banksy Collection' by STOT21stCplanB, by rob123rob on Aug 16, 2007 20:53:28 GMT 1, yeah, (and I know I'm just dreaming here), but with all the stunts Banksy has pulled, what better stunt would there be than releasing a pile of crap on canvas, eventually revealing it's real, and watching as the ugly art bounces around market value all up and down ebay. We all know that a good Banksy canvas sells for a lot of loot, but how much would an authentic bad one sell for? Never going to happen, but still, would be interesting.
yeah, (and I know I'm just dreaming here), but with all the stunts Banksy has pulled, what better stunt would there be than releasing a pile of crap on canvas, eventually revealing it's real, and watching as the ugly art bounces around market value all up and down ebay. We all know that a good Banksy canvas sells for a lot of loot, but how much would an authentic bad one sell for? Never going to happen, but still, would be interesting.
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'Banksy Collection' by STOT21stCplanB, by dave313perry on Aug 16, 2007 21:00:36 GMT 1, yeah, (and I know I'm just dreaming here), but with all the stunts Banksy has pulled, what better stunt would there be than releasing a pile of crap on canvas, eventually revealing it's real, and watching as the ugly art bounces around market value all up and down ebay. We all know that a good Banksy canvas sells for a lot of loot, but how much would an authentic bad one sell for? Never going to happen, but still, would be interesting.
If it is real then i will lose all respect for the man - supplying people who buy art solely for financial purposes and helping them to do so !?!?? Many of the artists i admire strive to deter from exactly that.
yeah, (and I know I'm just dreaming here), but with all the stunts Banksy has pulled, what better stunt would there be than releasing a pile of crap on canvas, eventually revealing it's real, and watching as the ugly art bounces around market value all up and down ebay. We all know that a good Banksy canvas sells for a lot of loot, but how much would an authentic bad one sell for? Never going to happen, but still, would be interesting. If it is real then i will lose all respect for the man - supplying people who buy art solely for financial purposes and helping them to do so !?!?? Many of the artists i admire strive to deter from exactly that.
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'Banksy Collection' by STOT21stCplanB, by rob123rob on Aug 16, 2007 21:06:43 GMT 1, I do not buy art soley for financial purposes (thanks for that), but in this case, yes I did. Every Tuesday I'm on TinyShowcase.com buying the prints they sell there, not because any of them ever become worth more than the paper they're on, but because I like them. Most of hte art in my collection is worth nothing to anyone on here but me, and that's just fine. So, just because I admitted to buying a piece for a chance it might be worth something later down the road, dont start pointing fingers. (And PS...Banksy is supplying people who buy art solely for financial purposes and helping them to do so.)
I do not buy art soley for financial purposes (thanks for that), but in this case, yes I did. Every Tuesday I'm on TinyShowcase.com buying the prints they sell there, not because any of them ever become worth more than the paper they're on, but because I like them. Most of hte art in my collection is worth nothing to anyone on here but me, and that's just fine. So, just because I admitted to buying a piece for a chance it might be worth something later down the road, dont start pointing fingers. (And PS...Banksy is supplying people who buy art solely for financial purposes and helping them to do so.)
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'Banksy Collection' by STOT21stCplanB, by rob123rob on Aug 16, 2007 21:32:40 GMT 1, And hey, maybe Banksy's turned a new leaf: maybe cute little animals are his future. Bunnies, puppies, ducks, etc....I do remember seeing somewhere a large gorilla head on a wall wearing a mask over its eyes....and for no reason. This could signal the end of Banksy's rat years, and could be rining in the years of fluffy happy things......I myself can't wait for the four colourways of each of these new canvases. And maybe there will be unstamped versions for less cash. Can't wait
And hey, maybe Banksy's turned a new leaf: maybe cute little animals are his future. Bunnies, puppies, ducks, etc....I do remember seeing somewhere a large gorilla head on a wall wearing a mask over its eyes....and for no reason. This could signal the end of Banksy's rat years, and could be rining in the years of fluffy happy things......I myself can't wait for the four colourways of each of these new canvases. And maybe there will be unstamped versions for less cash. Can't wait
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'Banksy Collection' by STOT21stCplanB, by spidey on Aug 16, 2007 21:35:23 GMT 1, All sold out bar one
All sold out bar one
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'Banksy Collection' by STOT21stCplanB, by Montubu7 on Aug 16, 2007 21:41:08 GMT 1, The power of suggestion..........
The power of suggestion..........
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'Banksy Collection' by STOT21stCplanB, by rob123rob on Aug 16, 2007 21:50:12 GMT 1, the power of a name
the power of a name
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'Banksy Collection' by STOT21stCplanB, by Simococo on Aug 16, 2007 21:53:44 GMT 1, all a bit odd really isn't it?
all a bit odd really isn't it?
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'Banksy Collection' by STOT21stCplanB, by Strange Al on Aug 16, 2007 21:54:04 GMT 1, the power of a brand
the power of a brand
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'Banksy Collection' by STOT21stCplanB, by rob123rob on Aug 16, 2007 22:01:00 GMT 1, I think it's amazing how sometimes those who are anti-establishment, who do it very well are more successful than their wildest dreams, eventually become a part of the establishment.
I think it's amazing how sometimes those who are anti-establishment, who do it very well are more successful than their wildest dreams, eventually become a part of the establishment.
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'Banksy Collection' by STOT21stCplanB, by Strange Al on Aug 16, 2007 22:05:04 GMT 1, If one believes what's been written in Banksy's recent interviews, it's an issue which plays on his mind.
If one believes what's been written in Banksy's recent interviews, it's an issue which plays on his mind.
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'Banksy Collection' by STOT21stCplanB, by rob123rob on Aug 16, 2007 22:08:13 GMT 1, It's really a no-win situation. Either you suck as an artist and nobody cares, or you have something meaningful to say, you do it well (better than anyone else really), and the supply-and-demand system turns you into the object of your own artistic rebellion
It's really a no-win situation. Either you suck as an artist and nobody cares, or you have something meaningful to say, you do it well (better than anyone else really), and the supply-and-demand system turns you into the object of your own artistic rebellion
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'Banksy Collection' by STOT21stCplanB, by fautebol on Aug 17, 2007 16:39:12 GMT 1, I agree with pretty much everything you said rob123rob
If it is real then i will lose all respect for the man - supplying people who buy art solely for financial purposes and helping them to do so !?!?? Many of the artists i admire strive to deter from exactly that.
I don't agree with you here. First, what is he doing now even if unintentionally?
Then, let's see the LA prints that have been released (Grannies, Applause, Morons) and the prints that have not been released yet on POW? Do you see a difference? I like Trolley hunters. But when you start selling that many prints of something like that for that much money, I'm not sure I lilke the print anymore if you don't know where the money is going. I should maybe not say that on a fans forum, but it stops somehow to be funny and the print itself stops to have much sense to me....But, I believe this is not a problem?
If ever he would put some real s**t down like this, I would gain much respect for...And I would be certainly more ready to spend 500Β£ for a trolley hunters print to put it up on my wall...Because, a print like this does not give me emotions...I like it, I found if amusing...But, it has to still be somehow a bit real...
Now, I like what the aquarium did. I don't care if they make money or not... Will Lazarides try to protect a "trademark"? Will someone say I'm Banksy you cannot use my name? Could anybody do it?
If he would ever flow the market with BANKSY, I would LOVE it...Otherwise, I have no problem, but his sentences against the art market are totally empty to me and thus it's why I cannot understand your point....
I agree with pretty much everything you said rob123rob If it is real then i will lose all respect for the man - supplying people who buy art solely for financial purposes and helping them to do so !?!?? Many of the artists i admire strive to deter from exactly that. I don't agree with you here. First, what is he doing now even if unintentionally? Then, let's see the LA prints that have been released (Grannies, Applause, Morons) and the prints that have not been released yet on POW? Do you see a difference? I like Trolley hunters. But when you start selling that many prints of something like that for that much money, I'm not sure I lilke the print anymore if you don't know where the money is going. I should maybe not say that on a fans forum, but it stops somehow to be funny and the print itself stops to have much sense to me....But, I believe this is not a problem? If ever he would put some real s**t down like this, I would gain much respect for...And I would be certainly more ready to spend 500Β£ for a trolley hunters print to put it up on my wall...Because, a print like this does not give me emotions...I like it, I found if amusing...But, it has to still be somehow a bit real... Now, I like what the aquarium did. I don't care if they make money or not... Will Lazarides try to protect a "trademark"? Will someone say I'm Banksy you cannot use my name? Could anybody do it? If he would ever flow the market with BANKSY, I would LOVE it...Otherwise, I have no problem, but his sentences against the art market are totally empty to me and thus it's why I cannot understand your point....
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'Banksy Collection' by STOT21stCplanB, by kronoopus on Aug 17, 2007 17:01:26 GMT 1, FYI, I was looking over the Banksy Collection, and noticed that only the first 2 state "Original". The others don't say that. I prefer mine extra crispy anyway..............
FYI, I was looking over the Banksy Collection, and noticed that only the first 2 state "Original". The others don't say that. I prefer mine extra crispy anyway..............
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'Banksy Collection' by STOT21stCplanB, by GVD on Aug 17, 2007 17:20:04 GMT 1, Even if it was a banksy, i wouldn't buy one.
Even if it was a banksy, i wouldn't buy one.
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'Banksy Collection' by STOT21stCplanB, by Strange Al on Aug 17, 2007 19:43:22 GMT 1, Don't spoil the fun copymenot!
Don't spoil the fun copymenot!
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'Banksy Collection' by STOT21stCplanB, by rob123rob on Aug 17, 2007 21:26:10 GMT 1, and now they are all sold out
and now they are all sold out
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'Banksy Collection' by STOT21stCplanB, by Montubu7 on Aug 17, 2007 21:30:15 GMT 1, THEY ARE FAKE !!!! I EMAILED THE GALLERY AND THEY SAID ITS PURELY DONE BY STOT !!!! TOTALY UNBANKSY !!!! Im glad because if banksy did these sh!tty canvas's then he would have gone down hill fast !!
Think about it !!
THEY ARE FAKE !!!! I EMAILED THE GALLERY AND THEY SAID ITS PURELY DONE BY STOT !!!! TOTALY UNBANKSY !!!! Im glad because if banksy did these sh!tty canvas's then he would have gone down hill fast !! Think about it !!
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'Banksy Collection' by STOT21stCplanB, by rob123rob on Aug 17, 2007 21:51:01 GMT 1, Yeah but now it doesn't matter that they're not by Banksy. Now there is their own story/myth behind the pieces, and some people (maybe not many) will want them because they are a part of the history of this very bizarre time in the world of art.
Yeah but now it doesn't matter that they're not by Banksy. Now there is their own story/myth behind the pieces, and some people (maybe not many) will want them because they are a part of the history of this very bizarre time in the world of art.
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'Banksy Collection' by STOT21stCplanB, by rob123rob on Aug 17, 2007 21:52:17 GMT 1, Just like those "When I Grow Up I want to be as Rich as Banksy" flyers handed out at the release of Flags. Not by Banksy, but still, Banksy-mania-related. Therefore, strangely, somewhat important
Just like those "When I Grow Up I want to be as Rich as Banksy" flyers handed out at the release of Flags. Not by Banksy, but still, Banksy-mania-related. Therefore, strangely, somewhat important
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'Banksy Collection' by STOT21stCplanB, by rob123rob on Aug 17, 2007 22:01:26 GMT 1, And to the couple of people on here who said that even if it was by Banksy, they still wouldn't buy them becasue they're ugly, your pants are officially on fire! There is not a single person on this forum who wouldn't buy a legit Banksy canvas for 35 pounds, regardless of how ugly it was.
And to the couple of people on here who said that even if it was by Banksy, they still wouldn't buy them becasue they're ugly, your pants are officially on fire! There is not a single person on this forum who wouldn't buy a legit Banksy canvas for 35 pounds, regardless of how ugly it was.
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'Banksy Collection' by STOT21stCplanB, by romanywg on Aug 17, 2007 22:06:55 GMT 1, I can't believe these have sold out! Just goes to show doesn't it. People buying because 'they might actually be by the man' wake up and smell the roses!
I can't believe these have sold out! Just goes to show doesn't it. People buying because 'they might actually be by the man' wake up and smell the roses!
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'Banksy Collection' by STOT21stCplanB, by otomi on Aug 17, 2007 23:05:38 GMT 1, THEY ARE FAKE !!!! I EMAILED THE GALLERY AND THEY SAID ITS PURELY DONE BY STOT !!!! TOTALY UNBANKSY !!!! Im glad because if banksy did these sh!tty canvas's then he would have gone down hill fast !!
If they would send emails around that they are actually from Banksy they might as well put it on the website. What did you except them to tell you. Yes those are real but we only tell one person by email.
THEY ARE FAKE !!!! I EMAILED THE GALLERY AND THEY SAID ITS PURELY DONE BY STOT !!!! TOTALY UNBANKSY !!!! Im glad because if banksy did these sh!tty canvas's then he would have gone down hill fast !! If they would send emails around that they are actually from Banksy they might as well put it on the website. What did you except them to tell you. Yes those are real but we only tell one person by email.
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'Banksy Collection' by STOT21stCplanB, by rob123rob on Aug 17, 2007 23:45:52 GMT 1, Hmmmmm.......what?
Hmmmmm.......what?
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'Banksy Collection' by STOT21stCplanB, by gbh on Aug 18, 2007 2:12:23 GMT 1, I can't believe these have sold out! Just goes to show doesn't it. People buying because 'they might actually be by the man' wake up and smell the roses!
surprisingly, some people (like me) actually like STOT21 (some of the work anyway). At worst, it's "different".
if anyone bought one of these thinking it's a Banksy, you are a total mug, especially since they are 35 quid.
I'm quite a lover of the piss take genre/smart work in general.
I can't believe these have sold out! Just goes to show doesn't it. People buying because 'they might actually be by the man' wake up and smell the roses! surprisingly, some people (like me) actually like STOT21 (some of the work anyway). At worst, it's "different". if anyone bought one of these thinking it's a Banksy, you are a total mug, especially since they are 35 quid. I'm quite a lover of the piss take genre/smart work in general.
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