[thugs]

Jun 8, 2017 0:36:44 GMT 1 FЯ said:

Jun 8, 2017 0:03:48 GMT 1 thugs said:

 someone's telling porkies.

?

the publisher has stated categorically that there has been no use of inkjet, the printers categorically state that they did in fact use inkjet.

someone is lying.

[Pawel]

This thread would be 12 pages shorted if it was explained something like this:
- background is screenprinted
- image is done using X
- varnish is screenprinted

most people would say "Fair enough, not fully screenprinted but looks really nice". So much energy and time saved.

[Fake]

Jun 8, 2017 11:54:00 GMT 1 wisky said:

..... Well I was fortunate enough to grab a coloured print for my daughter, who loves KF's images and has even tried to replicate KF's work in her art class - The class had to choose a famous artist and replicate their work, she's 11 y o - and she doesn't yet know that she will have this print......

She will be estatic!

What is all the fuss over the printing technique....?

I love Banksy's images, but I would bet that Banksy's printing process was knowhere near as complicated as KF's???

Good for you! (And her) I am not talking down the print. It looks amazing and the art of KF stands on its own.
I am talking about the ethics of a gallery. How will they handle missing prints? Damaged prints? How will customer service be? You just dont know from a gallery who has something to hide.

[bagpuss]

Some strong words are being banded around about the gallery being liars and questioning their honesty. A lot of the messaging on these prints appears to be led by Fridriksworkshop (Katrin's studio); the gallery appear to be regurgitating the messaging (and photos) from the studio itself. I feel that it is naivety, on the part of the gallery, rather than deception that has led to this insightful discussion.

[njr911]

Jun 8, 2017 13:45:02 GMT 1 Fake said:

Jun 8, 2017 11:54:00 GMT 1 wisky said:

..... Well I was fortunate enough to grab a coloured print for my daughter, who loves KF's images and has even tried to replicate KF's work in her art class - The class had to choose a famous artist and replicate their work, she's 11 y o - and she doesn't yet know that she will have this print......

She will be estatic!

What is all the fuss over the printing technique....?

I love Banksy's images, but I would bet that Banksy's printing process was knowhere near as complicated as KF's???

Good for you! (And her) I am not talking down the print. It looks amazing and the art of KF stands on its own.
I am talking about the ethics of a gallery. How will they handle missing prints? Damaged prints? How will customer service be? You just dont know from a gallery who has something to hide.

Unlike most print releases this gallery have been fully open about the print run and over prints for damages.

[pinfra]

new releases on Station16gallery 

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Jun 8, 2017 11:44:22 GMT 1 Fake said:

Jun 8, 2017 11:31:41 GMT 1 avec art said:

not sure if anyone is getting 'bent up' over the process, just that we deserve a little bit of honesty as to how they were made so we can make our own judgements.

Honesty.. or just openness... These prints would not have sold any different if the exact printing proces had been made clear. Now you will just have people complaining when they receive the print and maybe even loose customers by not being "open" next time. 

I don't believe a single person will complain receipt. They will look amazing

[nobokov]

I'm cautiously optimistic

[rjf76]

Looking forward to my HF AP's...😎

[Deleted]

Jun 8, 2017 20:54:50 GMT 1 rjf76 said:

Looking forward to my HF AP's...😎

☝️😆

[thugs]

Jun 8, 2017 20:26:43 GMT 1 @russky75 said:

Jun 8, 2017 11:44:22 GMT 1 Fake said:

Honesty.. or just openness... These prints would not have sold any different if the exact printing proces had been made clear. Now you will just have people complaining when they receive the print and maybe even loose customers by not being "open" next time. 

I don't believe a single person will complain receipt. They will look amazing

i have no doubts they'll look amazing to those who like katrin's work.

the point being made here is that the gallery and/or the artist have deliberately lied to make their product more appealing to buyers.

that makes them utter shîtehawks in my book.

and the irony is they didn't need to do so at all.

[avec art]

I know I am in the minority here who actually cares about the process, but I'll say what I tried to explain last night anyway. From deconstructing how I think this was created (surely I'm allowed to speculate), the giclee element goes on first. With those Epson plotters, usually the paper comes off a large roll (to be cut down later). Then the screen printed silver metallic 'background' is actually added retrospectively. To do it the other way around would require your giclee printer to register at exactly the right point, so much simpler the other way around. This would also corroborate with what the printers have said. Then as mentioned before, spot varnish is screened, and finally the piece sent through an etching press to be embossed.

[thugs]

Jun 8, 2017 21:35:15 GMT 1 avec art said:

I know I am in the minority here who actually cares about the process, but I'll say what I tried to explain last night anyway. From deconstructing how I think this was created (surely I'm allowed to speculate), the giclee element goes on first. With those Epson plotters, usually the paper comes off a large roll (to be cut down later). Then the screen printed silver metallic 'background' is actually added retrospectively. To do it the other way around would require your giclee printer to register at exactly the right point, so much simpler the other way around. This would also corroborate with what the printers have said. Then as mentioned before, spot varnish is screened, and finally the piece sent through an etching press to be embossed.

you're not alone, but i care far far more for transparency, honesty and integrity from artists and their publishers.

[wisky]

.....Have you seen the list of artists that the 'Coriander Studio' have printed works for?

These prints will be top quality, What is your problem with KF?

There are plenty of artists that I do not appreciate, but I would'nt have the urge to attack them....

I ain't got time for that shiit - live and let live - move on.

[Ruggs]

Don't know if this has been posted. Came across it on Coriander Studios website.

These exclusive new fine art editions by Katrin Fridriks are faithful to artist's renowned high standards regarding screen print technique and quality. (Utilizing peculiar printing and varnishing techniques, as well as the same paint used at her studio, these prints are flawlessly capturing her unmistakable energy and precision.) Meticulously produced in close collaboration with Coriander Studio, with whom Fridriks Workshop joined forces in the past, the editions kept the quality level and vital attributes of the original artworks. For both prints, Katrin Fridriks insisted on keeping the signature thickness of the paint and texture effect. By carefully selecting certain areas through the embossing technique, as well as applying partial glossy varnish, the finished works enhance the volume effect and the brightness of the colors. For re-creating her iconic "Waving Miracle & Magic Mind" black/white series, Katrin Fridriks and Coriander Studio applied Lascaux 995 paint to replicate the exact same silver background of the original Fridriks artworks. This cosmic tone creates various luminous reflection effects when viewing the print from different angles. As for "Waving Force of Nature - Awakening" color series, Fridriks chose a raw white mat background in order to accent the fierce energy of the image, at the same time allowing the screen printed organic macroscopic black/white details to intensify the contrasts between the elements and techniques used.

[aldoxzx]

Perhaps they've been coy about the exact process, but at least they have posted more than a dozen high res and clear photos of each print.


You as a buyer can at least decide if you are happy with the end result and are worth the price.

[FЯ]

Jun 8, 2017 22:32:58 GMT 1 aldoxzx said:

Perhaps they've been coy about the exact process, but at least they have posted more than a dozen high res and clear photos of each print.


You as a buyer can at least decide if you are happy with the end result and are worth the price.

Thing is, i bet people would have quite happily paid thousands for a s**tty banksy election giclee and preached on about how its all about 'the message'

[J0NNY]

To be honest I have had contact with the gallery before and after release and they have to be one of the most proactive that I have dealt with in terms of replying with info and in a timely manner - general attitude seems spot on too.

[Coach]

Jun 8, 2017 22:34:52 GMT 1 FЯ said:

Jun 8, 2017 22:32:58 GMT 1 aldoxzx said:

Perhaps they've been coy about the exact process, but at least they have posted more than a dozen high res and clear photos of each print.


You as a buyer can at least decide if you are happy with the end result and are worth the price.

Thing is, i bet people would have quite happily paid thousands for a s**tty banksy election giclee and preached on about how its all about 'the message'

Maybe, but only because certain artist's work commands higher prices that others. Fairly obvious.

I think these prints look excellent. But I agree with those saying that it's relevant to know what the printing process is, if one is a print collector.

[WOOF]

Jun 8, 2017 22:34:52 GMT 1 FЯ said:

Jun 8, 2017 22:32:58 GMT 1 aldoxzx said:

Perhaps they've been coy about the exact process, but at least they have posted more than a dozen high res and clear photos of each print.


You as a buyer can at least decide if you are happy with the end result and are worth the price.

Thing is, i bet people would have quite happily paid thousands for a s**tty banksy election giclee and preached on about how its all about 'the message'

Like the people pending thousands on the dismaland gift print out, err, i mean print.

[wisky]

Jun 8, 2017 22:28:38 GMT 1 thugs said:

Jun 8, 2017 22:18:38 GMT 1 wisky said:

.....Have you seen the list of artists that the 'Coriander Studio' have printed works for?

These prints will be top quality, What is your problem with KF?

There are plenty of artists that I do not appreciate, but I would'nt have the urge to attack them....

I ain't got time for that shiit - live and let live - move on.

yet another member spectacularly missing the point and deflecting.

i'll say it one last time, i think these are top quality prints.

i just don't like liars, particularly those who do so for profit.

i'm done here.

WTF is the world coming to?

"Liars, liArs, ThERe aLL FecKiNG LIARS!" Says Thugs over a printing process..... 

World war 3 apocalypse is heading our way  

And my 11 y o daughter wants to stab someone because they haven't 'liked' her photo! 

Crazy times!!! 

I miss the days when there were no mobile phones, I miss listening to house music in my car, I miss smoking weed while overlooking the Thames in Bermondsey with my friends, I miss driving to McDonalds drive through twice in one day, I miss playing pound up the wall, I miss the feeling that we could make millions by selling something or organising beach parties, I miss playing football, I miss...... What else do I miss? I miss the freedom of youth...................................... 

Life is short ~ enjoy it! 

[jluhiex]

Jun 8, 2017 23:55:53 GMT 1 avec art said:

what if you had a nut allergy, and someone sold you a chocolate brownie but didn't tell you it had ground almonds in it?

Go into anaphylactic shock and die? I could totally see the inkjet doing that to someone.

[WOOF]

Jun 8, 2017 23:55:53 GMT 1 avec art said:

what if you had a nut allergy, and someone sold you a chocolate brownie but didn't tell you it had ground almonds in it?

Yeah, sorry, but those two things are not at all alike. Making prints is not a life or death matter.

[avec art]

I fully understand that. I was trying to put the train back on the track as to what some peoples concerns are, rather than anyone being either critical of the artist or the print. It was a dismal example, and, will humbly bow out.

[spirit]

Jun 8, 2017 23:47:32 GMT 1 wisky said:

I miss the days when there were no mobile phones, I miss listening to house music in my car, I miss smoking weed while overlooking the Thames in Bermondsey with my friends, I miss driving to McDonalds drive through twice in one day, I miss playing pound up the wall, I miss the feeling that we could make millions by selling something or organising beach parties, I miss playing football, I miss...... What else do I miss? I miss the freedom of youth...................................... 

Life is short ~ enjoy it! 

Well you can't go back to there being no mobile phones... but the good news is all the rest are totally still doable! I may be older than you and am about to spend more on a stereo for my car than I did on this print 

[nobokov]

vid.me/EDVw

This is how I viewed this whole situation.

[jig5aw]

Nice! Really like his work! Good price too!

[25127096]

It's a trapazoid to, make the framer work for his money.

[jig5aw]

Think I'll get it sandwiched between two matching shaped pieces of acrylic. Framing will be pricey! Anyone hear how much they were charging for the custom frames?

[gmidd]

Jun 10, 2017 10:05:18 GMT 1 jig5aw said:

Think I'll get it sandwiched between two matching shaped pieces of acrylic. Framing will be pricey! Anyone hear how much they were charging for the custom frames?

I believe the framed ones were an extra $300CAD.